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Demonstrators Protesting Trump Presidency March Across Cities in U.S. and Internationally; Mike Pompeo's Confirmation as CIA Director Delayed in Senate; Donald Trump to Give Speech at CIA Headquarters. Aired 2-3p ET

Aired January 21, 2017 - 14:00   ET



[14:00:04] SCARLETT JOHANSSON, ACTRESS: That said, I respect that you are our president-elect and I want to be able to support you, but first I ask that you support me, support my sister, support my mother, support my best friend and all of our girlfriends.

CECILE RICHARDS, PRESIDENT, PLANNED PARENTHOOD FEDERATION OF AMERICA: I wish every single one of them could see you. You are a beautiful sight, but some folks in Congress a terrifying one.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: I got it. And organizers of the women's march on Washington say there are 2.5 million demonstrators participating in what they're calling sister marches all over the world today. I can tell you, I was in the thick of it covering it. We'll play some of the interviews momentarily, everyone from Senator Kirsten Gillibrand to Cher to Cory Booker to America Ferrera. We'll have all of this for you. This is monumentous. We have all of these pictures for you, live pictures, huge crowds gathered across all of these major streets. We have reporters here at CNN covering these marches nationwide for you. Kyung Lah is on the ground here in Washington D.C. in New York, Jessica Schneider standing by, Sara Sidner on the west coast for us in L.A., and Miguel Marquez is in Boston. So let's take a whip around beginning, Kyung, with you here in Washington, all with the sea of pink, paint the picture for me.

KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Janelle Monae is taking the stage. The march is scheduled right now but it appears that they're running just slightly behind schedule. But you were just talking about that sea of pink, Brooke. So I want you to look at some of the people in the crowd here. The sea of pink are generally pink hats that they're wearing. It started out as something that is shared socially about trying to knit your own hat, and what you're seeing here are all these pink hats descending on Washington, D.C.

What they want to tell Donald Trump, because we've talked to women. These ladies are from California. We've talked to people from Alaska, New York, who all come here, and they wanted to come to Donald Trump's backyard. And the reason why is because they want him to look out the window and hear from them.

I'm going to stop here before you come here. But some of the women here if you look past into the crowd, you could see that they're ready to march. They want to keep marching. And we just heard one of the people on the stage here, Janelle Monae say, the musician Janelle Monae sau that they want to shut Washington down.

And Brooke, you know from being out here, it is incredibly packed. It is going to be logistically difficult to get all of these women to turn and try to march in one way. So they're supposed to start soon, so we'll see what happens. Brooke?

BALDWIN: We'll see. We'll take it live. All the ladies marching all across Washington and across the country. Kyung, we'll check back with you.

Also New York where not only where one of the major marches are, but it's also of course the 45th president of the United States hometown. Jessica Schneider is among some of these women and men on the streets of New York City. And it's incredible here in Washington, Jessica. People couldn't even totally eyeball how many would show up, and I think the initial estimates just blew these organizers away.

JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Brooke, the turnout here in New York City, quite simply it's overwhelming. This is the women's march. Right now it's a bit of a saunter. And for two hours, we stood in absolute gridlock. You're getting a shot of Second Avenue right now extending north. This march was supposed to begin at 47th street, but as you can see, we're at 46th. You are seeing crowds as far as the eye can see here. I'm guessing that they crowds extend at least 10 blocks beyond what they were supposed to.

So like I said, more of a saunter right now than a march. There are thousands of people right now. We're on the east side of Manhattan near the United Nations. We're walking a little bit south just to make a right-hand turn and then head up Fifth Avenue where the protests will be ending at Trump Tower. Of course, the president in Washington, D.C., but many of the people I've spoken with out here say, they don't care the president's in Washington. They still want to get their message out.

And his home here in New York City, you hear the "yeah" of the crowd here. There have been chants out here. But people I've spoken with say that it's not just about women's rights. They say it's about human rights, it's about civil rights. I've talked to young and old men and women, even talking to a 10-year-old boy this morning who told me he's out here because he's also concerned about climate change issues and immigration.

So this crowd, if we can get one more look at it, Brooke, to show you the enormity of it, it's really incredible. Organizers out here had worked for weeks to put this together, but a lot of people are saying, there may be a lot more people out here than actually RSVP'd. It is a sight out here in the middle of New York City all to get the message to President Trump. Brooke?

[14:05:04] BALDWIN: They knew it would be big. I was talking to the original organizers today. I don't think they really knew quite how big it would.

Check this out. Let's go to Janelle Monae back in Washington on stage.

JANELLE MONAE: Sandra Bland!

CROWD: Say her name!

JANELLE MONAE: Sandra Bland!

CROWD: Say her name!

JANELLE MONAE: Sandra Bland!

CROWD: Say her name!


MONAE: All right, that was a test. Band, drop it in.


MONAE: Everybody, put those hands in the air and sing with us.


MONAE: So we're going to improve this. So what we're going to do right now is we're going to jump back in. All right, we got the mothers right here. Say your baby's name. Jordan Davis. Here we go. We're going to say Jordan Davis so he can feel us and we're doing this for his mother who gave birth to him. We are proud of you for standing up here with us today. I'm giving you to mike because this is not about you. So you go.


MONAE: We're going to do it right because this is a moment for history. We're going to have a moment together where we listen in and we are in tune. We are in tune, all right?

One, two, three -- Jordan Davis!

CROWD: Say his name!

MONAE: Jordan Davis!

CROWD: Say his name!

MONAE: Jordan Davis!

CROWD: Say his name!

MONAE: Jordan Davis!

CROWD: Say his name!

MONAE: Jordan Davis!

CROWD: Say his name! MONAE: Jordan Davis!

CROWD: Say his name!

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CROWD: Say his name!

MONAE: Jordan Davis!

CROWD: Say his name!

MONAE: Say his name! Say his name! Say his name! Say his name! Say his name! Say his name! Say his name!

We've got another mother, Eric Garner's mother, and we're going to give you the mike. This is not about me. This is about you. This is about your son and this is about all of us fighting back against abuse of power.

[14:10:00] So when it comes in, we want to be in tune with you. On the one, two, say his name.


CROWD: Say his name!


CROWD: Say his name!


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CROWD: Say his name!


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CROWD: Say his name!


CROWD: Say his name!


CROWD: Say his name!


CROWD: Say his name!

MONAE: This is the mother of --

BALDWIN: All right, so Janelle Monae on the stage with the mothers of the movement. The last time you really saw them all together like this was at the DNC in Philadelphia. These are mothers who have lost their sons far too soon to violence in this country. So that's just a piece of this major story that is, you know, making its way through the streets. Look at all these women. The pictures from Seattle, we know west coast. We know you're watching as well. Let's go to Sara Sidner. She is in Los Angeles. Sara, tell me why these women didn't want to just talk about it. Tell me why they wanted to show up.

SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, there are women from all different backgrounds here. We talked to a military veteran. She was in the army corps. She was in a wheelchair trying to get through these crowds here because she said she is concerned about America's democracy, particularly pointed comments towards Donald Trump, saying you better include us. We love our country and we are a part of America too.

And some of the comments that he made as he was on the trail to the presidency really disturbed a lot of people here. They're also very concerned about what his policies are going to look like.

But I want you to see what these crowds look like. It got so big here that the crowd broke apart and actually started going along a route that was not a sanctioned route, that was not a permitted route. It just got too big.

The organizers thought there would be somewhere between 70,000 to 100,000 people here, and what we're seeing is the crowd literally breaking apart and going down streets that have cars on them because they have decided they cannot move and they want to be a part of the march.

You are looking at the street that goes up at an angle there, on a hill and on that hill, it is literally stopped. The people aren't moving anywhere but you could see the march going. And where this is going is from Pershing Square which is in the heart of downtown Los Angeles to city hall.

We're also expecting a lot of celebrities to show up including someone at the crowd. We expect Barbra Streisand to talk here. We also know Adina Mozell (ph) is here. And of course the leaders of Los Angeles are going to speak. The mayor is expected to speak as well. But the people today, it's really about those who showed up. It's obviously not just women, although, that's the majority of the crowd. There are also men saying they're very concerned --

BALDWIN: All right, Sara, we're going to pull away from you. A lot of women, a lot of cell phones, some audio issues. We're just going to roll with it. Sara Sidner in Los Angeles. We'll come back to you. Let's go to Boston now. Miguel Marquez at the massive march there. What are you seeing, Miguel?

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Brooke, to say that organizers are overwhelmed by the turnout here is an understatement. These are still marchers who are waiting to get on to the march route. The route is actually a mile long, and the start of the march, if you look back around now to Boston Common, and they don't have enough room basically on the route to get people out of the park and marching along.

They planned for about 25,000 people for this march. A senior source with the Boston Police Department says that they have 110,000 to 125,000 people out here. And it's not just women's groups. Hundreds of groups across New England have bussed in and come in for this march, saying this is the beginning of something for them. This is the beginning of a movement for their first nationwide organizational meeting, putting the Trump administration on notice that they are being watched and these numbers and these people will be more politically engaged than ever, and they will be watching every move this new administration makes. Brooke?

BALDWIN: Miguel, thank you. Miguel Marquez in Boston.

I've got a huge panel here in Washington. I promise you, we're going to keep an eye on the screen though and keep watching this march as it progresses through the day. But let me begin with a tweet that has just come in. Let's all read this together. This is from Hillary Clinton, right, who we did see yesterday at the inauguration. And here she tweets, "Thanks for standing, speaking, and marching for our values women's march. Important as ever. I truly believe we're always stronger together."

Dana Bash, let me just begin with you. I was out in the thick of it for a number of hours this morning. And yes, a lot of women brought up Trump and a lot of women brought up Hillary Clinton, but I don't think it's just about that. And it's also not only just about women's issues. I heard a lot about climate change and the environment. What do you make of all of these people? I'm running out of adjectives to describe this.

DANA BASH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It is remarkable. But I think what Miguel said at the end there is something that is really critical. This is an extraordinary show of democracy, right, of how democracy can and should work. No matter what side you're on, it just is.

But then the question is, how are they going to take this, and, as Miguel said, perhaps start a more politically directed movement in a way that, you know, it was there. I'm looking over at Hilary Rosen. They certainly, Democrats certainly did try and in many cases did succeed to motivate Democrats. But clearly not enough when it came to the Electoral College.

What is unclear is whether or not the women and men in this crowd, just look at the next elections, the midterm elections? Do they live in districts where it's even going to make a difference because it gerrymandered? We don't know. Likely not. And then if not, are they going to be able to make a difference with, for example, the 10 Democratic senators who are up for reelection in states that Donald Trump won, including Pennsylvania where David Urban helped Donald Trump win, which is traditionally much more blue? We'll see what happens in the midterms. So I think that is the question beyond just the awesomeness of these pictures and what this movement means. It's what are they going to do about it.

BALDWIN: David Urban, let me go to you, because obviously you were a Donald Trump supporter. He is the president. I've talked to a lot of women this morning. They said, he's not my president, he's not my president. And I had to say, yes, he is. Yes, he is your president. How does he bring these women though in the fold?

DAVID URBAN, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN CONTINENTAL GROUP: Brooke, it's the first day of his presidency. Let's give the guy a break. I think he's going to prove throughout with the folks he includes in his inner circle, people like Dina Powell, who I know you're all familiar with, his daughter, who has spoken on equal pay and on childcare and important issues to women. Give the guy a break.

BALDWIN: Hilary is laughing.

HILARY ROSEN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I'm laughing because my friend David is saying Donald Trump has women to handle the women. That is kind of what you said, but that's OK.

I think we have to step away. Dana raises a good point about what this means politically, but I think it's worth a moment to talk about what this means emotionally today. This is democracy in action, but this is dissent. This is aggressive dissent against a president that they feel has, in essence, squandered the last two months of this transition, lost an opportunity to bring people together to lessen the fears where he's really done nothing to make women feel like, oh, yes, you are going to be included with his appointments, to make immigrants feel like, you know what, you don't have to worry about being deported. He's done LGBT people, like there's no part of what this president has done over the last few weeks to make these people feel like they have any choice but to go to the streets.

BALDWIN: I think a piece this is a trust issue, just talking to some women. They just don't believe the president, despite David, your point, they just don't believe him, and it's less about what he says he'll do and it's more about what he will do for them and the country. But Mary Katharine, we were chatting earlier because it's like -- and I said to these, I said where were you a year ago? Where were you a couple of months before the election?

MARY KATHARINE HAM, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think many of them were probably involved.

BALDWIN: This is amazing.

HAM: I think Trump, critical conservative, I empathize with the idea of making your voice heard. Also tactically, a giant rally in an urban center featuring lots of celebrities is exactly what got Hillary elected.

(LAUGHTER) HAM: But it is exciting in a time where it's patriotic and celebrating again. And it was so exciting for Hillary, but I'm enjoying it.

BALDWIN: Jim Sciutto, do you think when we hear from Mr. Trump on the CIA in the next hour, does he address these women? Does he address this movement happening across the country?

JIM SCIUTTO, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: With the CIA, I'm sure not. He has got enough issues with the CIA, right? He's got a battle. This is dissent. You've got dissent in the ranks inside the intelligence services, largely because the president-elect has taken them off, right, in the midst of what is still an ongoing investigation of whether and how much Russia helped him win the election. That's an open question. They haven't decided that question. It's the intelligence community's judgment that that was their goal. They haven't assessed and will not assess if it helped. But they looking at Russian influence on the election, one.

Two, let's state this, and this part of CNN's reporting. We also know that law enforcement and intelligence continues to look at ties between Donald Trump and Russia. So you're going to have continuing investigations.

And why do I mention that now in the context of this? The dissent is from within the government, really, within his own party but within crucial agencies at a time when he's going to have enormous power to that quash that dissent conceivably, right. He's putting his people into these positions. It seems to me you've got the party to party dissent, which is somewhat expected, then you have the internal dissent which is unresolved. And it's going to continue. It's going to be -- it's concrete and real.

[14:20:05] BALDWIN: So, great points but that's a no.


HANNITY: That's a no is what I heard at the top of the hour with the CIA, but not from Washington.


BALDWIN: Thank you for that.

Carlos Watson, to you. What about just in terms of, I don't know, giving an acknowledgment to these women? This is how they're sort of banging their proverbial fists and saying, Mr. President, we are walking to the White House. We want you to hear us. Does he acknowledge that in some way? Would it behoove him to?

CARLOS WATSON, EDITOR IN CHIEF, OZY: You've certainly seen presidents bend, LBJ most famously around the question of civil right, and a year into it he ultimately says, we shall overcome. I don't know if Donald Trump gets there. It certainly wasn't the case over the 15 months of the election, the two months of the transition, seems unlikely. But there's no two ways about it. When he talks about a movement, he's clearly helped unleash a movement here. And you're right, Mary Katharine. It wasn't as active during the campaign, and I'm sure there are a lot of people saying, boy, I wish this kind of energy was involved instead of Hillary Clinton winning by 3 million or 4 million votes, she might have won by 8 million to 10 million votes Jim Comey notwithstanding.

BALDWIN: Right. Mark?

MARK PRESTON, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: I think there's a couple of things. One is, is this just a feel good moment on a Saturday afternoon for a lot of people who are getting together who are very frustrated at the election results. And it very well could be. And if that's the case, then guess what. Next week this will have never happened. We will have forgotten this.

When we saw Donald Trump get these huge rallies all across the country, Dana and I and Jim, and we saw these things happen, we didn't think that they would come out and actually vote for Donald Trump. We thought they were there for the spectacle. And guess what? They did come out and vote for Donald Trump. They did come out and do that.

The question is, going to the midterm elections, are all these women, are all these men, are all these different coalitions, because this isn't just about women's rights. It's about the whole liberal party agenda, not the Democratic Party agenda, the liberal party agenda, are they all going to come together and coalesce to try to defeat Republicans in November in two years? And that's really a big unanswered question at this point.

ROSEN: I don't know about the voting because I don't think this is just about electing people. What we have is an agenda and a president and a Congress that's going to actually enact a lot of policy over the next two years, well prior to the next election. And so what these folks are saying is, you know, we don't want you to end Planned Parenthood. We want you to feel the pressure on some of these policies. We want you to feel pressure on appointments. We want you to feel pressure on repealing DACA rules for the dreamers. So much I think of the energy and the crowds today, they're not really about electoral politics. That will matter in 18 months, but today these people are worried about what policies this administration is going to do.

WATSON: But what comes out of it? Do they go back to the cities across the east coast or across the country and then nothing happens? I think it's more than that because I think some of the language you listen to. I don't know if everyone caught that. They were saying "hell no." There's so much emotion that goes beyond the politics. It feels a lot more like how a number of people felt post-Katrina in 2005, and that led up to Obama. And so I think it's a good question to ask if it's just Occupy.

URBAN: And a month for now there will be a million people marching here in the March for Life. So just the exact opposite of Hilary's point. There are going to be a million people calling for judges to be appointed, for a Supreme Court justice to be confirmed who are very conservative.

BASH: David, you know Donald Trump. You know Donald Trump. You work with him and helped him win Pennsylvania. Knowing him as you do, what do you think he's thinking when he watches?

URBAN: I think he thinks these people were active. They were active in New York, in San Francisco, in Boston. Everywhere we're seeing around the world.

BALDWIN: But do you think he'll acknowledge them?

URBAN: I don't think today. Not at the CIA.

HAM: I think David is right that the March for Life is the other side of this, and that will be large as well. The problem is reaching America means reaching people who aren't liberal. So will this march and will the people leading it be able to do that. That's the big question.

ROSEN: It's already had an impact, though. And one of the nice things I think about Donald Trump is actually how accessible he is as a president. I could count the times that I know that Barack Obama watched cable TV or read more than his clips, but Donald Trump actually does pay attention. And we have seen, just look at what happened on Obamacare as an example over the last two weeks. We have seen him react to public opinion.

And so when public opinion goes hard enough, if he feels like there is a huge backlash among women, he is going to -- it could have an impact on what he lets Republicans in Congress do. So I do think that it's not going to get dismissed entirely about from the coast. And by the way, he does live in New York and so he considers himself, that's his base in many ways, his emotional base. So I do think there's an opportunity there.

[14:25:06] BALDWIN: I want to get Kate Bennett's voice in all of this. By the way, welcome to the CNN family. It's so nice to be meet you. All these pictures, you live in Washington. Did you feel it?

KATE BENNETT, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: I think the vibe is very different today than it was yesterday. We had those weird pockets of violence and things happening. Today there's a joyful thing happening within the city.

I think it's funny, though, Donald Trump Jr. just instagrammed that he and his family are bowling. While this is going on they're bowling inside in the White House with the kids. There's two different things happening in Washington today. There's the Trumps this morning attending the church service, doing something that's very traditional and going along their way, going back with their kids, bowling, taking advantage of the weekend, and yet you're right. Where is he? There hasn't been a peep. There hasn't even been a tweet that we've seen today about this. It's unclear, but in the meantime we have this Trump family that's very much enjoying the pageantry that they had yesterday, and if they can ignore this, I'm not sure that they will, but certainly today seem to be going along. BALDWIN: Let's hit pause on the conversation. I have so much more to

ask everyone. It is just a huge day. Yesterday was a huge day. Today is massive. We have all these protests and demonstrations erupting in more cities this moment. We'll take you there live. Also ahead here on CNN, just a short time from now as we mentioned, President Trump will speak live from CIA headquarters. Will he address these women and this movement happening across the country? I'm Brooke Baldwin live here in Washington, D.C. This is CNN's special live coverage.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is CNN breaking news.

BALDWIN: Welcome back. You're watching CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin. This is live special coverage of these Women marches across America as President Trump has taken office. This is officially his first full day at the White House. But juxtapose the images we played for you yesterday with this. Thousands of marchers flooding the streets across the country and in major cities including downtown Denver. Ana Cabrera is there for us. Ana, tell me what you're seeing.

ANA CABRERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Brooke. We are here in the heart of Denver, Colorado, where you can see a sea of people as far as the eye can see here at this civic center park which is just across from the Colorado state capital.

[14:30:00] We're going on four or five hours of demonstrations happening here in Colorado today. It began with a march that wound through about a mile stretch of the downtown Denver street that organizers had seen about 50,000 people RSVP for this event, but we were just told, again, organizers' unofficial estimates at least 100,000, they believe who turned out here in Colorado today.

And a lot of the people we're talking to of all ages, all races, and really all walks of life are saying a similar message, saying they want the current president and his administration to see this and to hear that they are all united and their voices supporting all people, human rights, social justice, women's rights, civil rights. All of these are pieces of what's important to the folks here in Colorado and what we're hearing all around the world when it comes to these demonstrations.

And one of the event organizers told me this really is not a protest against something. It's for something. And the goal for these folks isn't just to have this event and be one and done, but to take action moving forward. So they want this to be a sign of the vigilance and the sheer numbers of supporters who are going to be standing up for these different human rights and equality for all moving forward as the administration continues to pursue its policies and plan out the next four years.

But again, you can take a look at the folks here, and when you read some of the signs, when you see them, a lot of the signs are talking about notions of also being respectful and really being one as humankind no matter where you're from or what color your skin is or what your gender is, Brooke.

BALDWIN: We could do an entire photo gallery just with the signs. Ana Cabrera in Denver, thank you so much, Ana.

We have crews across the country. Listen, this is not just happening here in Washington, D.C. It is all throughout the country and, honestly, throughout the world. These massive demonstrations are under way. We'll Ping-Pong different live pictures for you, but also keep in mind we're talking President Trump today just a little while from now, he's set to speak from the CIA. We'll take that live. We'll be right back.


[14:35:01] BALDWIN: We're back with the breaking news. So glad you're with me on this Saturday. There's so much to talk about here in Washington. You're watching CNN special live coverage as demonstrations erupt across America for a myriad of reasons. This is not just about Donald Trump. This is not just about Hillary Clinton. This is about issues. This is about the White House listening to what these women and men have to say.

Let's talk, though, now about how the White House ordered a stop to the tweeting at the National Park Service. Let's go to Manu Raju, our CNN senior congressional reporter who has the scoop on this. Manu, set up the story. What's happened?

MANU RAJU, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A "New York Time" reporter tweeted images of the 2009 President Obama's first inauguration in which roughly, estimates were about 1.8 million people came to celebrate and to experience that inauguration. And "The Times" report included an image of that with an image of yesterday's inauguration. And it appeared according to those images that a lot fewer people were at Trump's inauguration compared with Obama's inauguration.

Well, it turns out that was not very popular for the Park Service. After that tweet came out the Park Service actually re-tweeted that "Times" reporter's tweet and that didn't go over very well with the White House. And there was an instruction that came down from the National Park Service that there will be no more tweeting or re- tweeting until further guidance comes out on Monday.

We all know, we heard Donald Trump on the campaign trail time and again talk about the size of his crowds, really pointing to the size of his crowds as a sign of major enthusiasm behind his campaign, his candidacy, and now his presidency.

And so this obviously rubbed Donald Trump and his team the wrong way. The Park Service later issuing an apology of sorts for that re-tweet. And it's also a sign, Brooke, that Donald Trump will be running the White House, a lot of career folks in these different bureaucracies, the federal agencies maybe have different views than the White House and they do things that are not very popular with the White House. So as Trump comes in he's trying to make sure that people are all on the same page, but with so many federal officials out there who may have different views and may try to do things to undermine him. Brooke? BALDWIN: Manu, thank you. We've got the panel first to just react to

this. And Kate, we were actually talking about this earlier, because not only have the comparisons been made of course yesterday to the Obama inauguration. I'm sure they'll be the pictures of today compared to yesterday. And of course, Mr. Trump says, it's not fair, it's not OK.

BENNETT: I'm actually struck today by this picture behind us on the set of the capital where he was just sworn in yesterday. It feels very sort of deserted and desolate. And just to the right down the mall, it's packed with people.

Obviously, it's not the optics, I think, that we wanted -- the Trump administration would want to kick off his big weekend with. However this march has been planned, and it's a march so big they can't march. So there's something to be said on that. But there's definitely --

BASH: Can I just add something to that? When I saw the reporting on the fact that the Trump administration asked the Park Service to pull that tweet back, let me just say, to start with, the National Park Service, their job is to -- part of their job is to estimate crowd size. So if they didn't know the numbers, then they should be careful about what they re-tweet, particularly since that's their job.

Having said that, the fact that on day one of a full Trump administration, the White House is saying, please don't tweet something that clearly would upset the president who is, admits, obsessed with his own crowd size is a little bit alarming because it is a slippery slope. And you know what, there are going to be things his agencies are going to report that he's not going to like. And you know what, it's what happens when you're not running your own organization or your campaign. You have got to get used to it. You're now the leader of the government.

BALDWIN: Let me come back in a second because I've been told in my ear, Jim Sciutto, as we've been talking about crowd size, you've got some news on the CIA.

SCIUTTO: It is just 20 minutes away from when the new president goes to address the CIA. It's that Mike Pompeo, who is his choice, not yet confirmed choice to lead the CIA, that he in written answers to question from Congress said that he's open to reinstating water boarding, a form of torture.

We talk a lot in panels about how elections matter, and of course, they do, but appointments matter, because this has been really, excuse the phrase, a tortured issue for the CIA in recent years because when the CIA allowed torture to be used in the wake of 9/11 against terror suspects, just in the wake of that, first of all, there were legal issues, but there was enormous regret inside, worry about damage to the organization, damage to American values.

[14:40:00] The CIA on this issue has only really just begun to recover from. So now you have the incoming director saying he might reinstate it. And keep in mind, that's in defiance of other senior military officers in the Trump administration, Defense Secretary Mattis among them, who sat down with Trump.

URBAN: If I could weigh? I went to school with Mike Pompeo. I went to West Point with Mike Pompeo. I've known Mike Pompeo since July of 1982.


URBAN: And I can state unequivocally he's an unbelievable patriot, a great individual of sterling character, and what he said in his testimony, during his testimony was he would ask the general counsel's office to reexamine all of those types of issues. He didn't say he was open to reinstating water boarding or he was going to water board anybody. He said he would ask the general counsel's office.

SCIUTTO: Why don't I read exactly what he said in his written answers?

BALDWIN: Please do.

SCIUTTO: "If confirmed, I will consult with experts of the agency and other organizations of the U.S. government on whether the Army Field Manual which sets standard for interrogation, uniform application is an impediment to gathering vital intelligence to protect the country."

URBAN: It doesn't say he's going to reinstate water boarding.

SCIUTTO: I didn't say that. I said that he was open to it. And here he's making a judgment here. He's making a statement saying if it's an impediment, then I might reconsider. I'm fairly certain I'm not reading into those comments.

URBAN: It wasn't that the CIA director is going to reinstate water boarding.

SCIUTTO: I didn't say that. I said that he's open to considering it.

PRESTON: Where this puts us, though, in Monday with a nomination that's been delayed could now be delayed even further down the road because you do have the likes of John McCain and Lindsey Graham and those types who are Republicans who would 100 percent b behind Mike Pompeo that might say, let us take a step back and learn about this a little bit further.

BASH: This is the reason why Mike Pompeo wasn't confirmed yesterday. Ron Wyden, the senator from Oregon, because he's on the committee, he saw this testimony and he said, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm going to use my right as a senator to hold this up, and there was a big blow-up on the Senate floor about it, and they agreed to hold the vote.

ROSEN: This is part of a bigger issue that the Trump administration is facing in terms of their nominees. First of all, they've gotten a very slow start in confirmations. As of this time with George Bush and Barack Obama, they each had seven or eight of their cabinet already confirmed. Donald Trump only has two of them. And what, you know, I found over the last couple of days is that the number of appointments that they have made in these agencies, and goes to the interior department, where they ready for what was happening? No, they're not ready for what's happening anywhere because they hardly have any people in place to fill these jobs.

BALDWIN: David, I want you to quickly respond to that, because I've got to go to break.

HAM: One problem they're not dealing with is the filibuster because the Democrats took it away from themselves.

URBAN: Back to Mike Pompeo.

ROSEN: That's exactly right. They can do whatever they want.

URBAN: On cloture it was 89-11 to put Miami Pompeo forward. So there's no doubt Mike Pompeo is going to confirmed as the CIA director.

ROSEN: But they're not getting their paperwork in on time.

URBAN: The Democrats are simply slow walking him.

BALDWIN: Speaking on Pompeo, the CIA, again, just a reminder to all of you watching and following along on this very busy Saturday with me, we will be seeing President Trump from the CIA giving remarks. Of course, we'll take it live at the top of the hour, but we're also watching these throngs of men and women, younger and older out today in full force marching for what they believe in. Different issues they want Mr. Trump to listen to. We'll hear from some of these women coming up.


[14:46:41] BALDWIN: And we're back live here in Washington CLARKE: I'm Brooke Baldwin. Special live coverage as we look live at these pictures in Washington, D.C., Pennsylvania Avenue, people shoulder to shoulder, including our own Suzanne Malveaux who is somewhere in there. Suzanne, tell me what these women are sharing with you?

SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Brooke, first of all, I want to tell you what it really is like to be down here because there was a moment where there were just so many people who were packed here down at Fourth and Independence heading up towards Constitution that it was shoulder to shoulder. It was kind of hard to breathe. People were a little afraid that there was going to be somewhat of a crush or a stampede. They asked people not to move, just to stay still because there was a sense of anxiety and concern. In a sense cleared out now and people are beginning to move a little bit. But people are asking for calm here.

I talked to a lot of women here, Brooke, and their messages are very simple and yet different. There was a woman who lost her mother that was very concerned about the change in the health care system. And the other young women for Brooklyn who had come to praise Obama, to thank Obama. I talked to an older gentleman, who had lost his husband, his partner, and was afraid that gay rights go backwards. And that was something he was concerned about. So many different people and their concerns. And Madonna, I've been


BALDWIN: Yes, speaking of Madonna, Suzanne, I'm going to cut you off. Forgive me, but we've got to go to Madonna.

MADONNA, SINGER: Can you hear me? Are you ready to shake up the world?


MADONNA: Welcome to the revolution of love, to the rebellion, to our refusal as women to accept this new age of tyranny, where not just women are in danger but all marginalized people. Where being uniquely different right now might truly be considered a crime.

It took this horrific moment of darkness to wake us the -- up.


MADONNA: It seems as though we had all slipped into a false sense of comfort, that justice would prevail and that good would win in the end. Well, good did not win this election, but good will win in the end.


MADONNA: So what today means is that we are far from the end. Today marks the beginning, the beginning of our story. The revolution starts here.


[14:50:00] MADONNA: The fight for the right to be free, to be who we are, to be equal. Let's march together through this darkness, and with each step know that we are not afraid.


MADONNA: That we are not alone, that we will not back down, that there is power in our unity and that no opposing force stands a chance in the face of true solidarity.


MADONNA: And to our detractors that insist that this march will never add up to anything, -- you.


MADONNA: -- you It is the beginning of much need change.

BALDWIN: OK, we're going to pull out of that because of some of the language used. It's Madonna. We didn't know what she was going to say. I've got Jim Sciutto and Dana Bash sitting listening to this. The one

and only material girl up on the stage. I spy Amy Schumer over her shoulder. It's a show of force with I know all of these celebrities. We heard Donald Trump say I don't need the celebrities, and the man won the election, but what do you make of her message?

BASH: I think that this is incredibly powerful and important. And the fact that there are so many people out there who suddenly feel like they have, as she was saying before she dropped the f-bomb, that they felt like at the end of the day, these are Hillary Clinton's supporters I'm talking about, that good would triumph over bad and that that didn't happen, that that was a wake-up call on Election Day to get people, especially young people, a lot of young people out there who have not known an adult life without Barack Obama whom they supported as president and were jarred, and were like, what happened?

The question is whether or not the celebrities on stage who were out in full force, Madonna, Amy Schumer, all of them, Scarlett Johansson, out in full force for Hillary Clinton, whether they can now make a difference because the people who are marching are listening more intently because they know that it doesn't always work for them in the end.

BALDWIN: Totally. By the way, I just want to sit here and I just apologize for the multiple f-bombs by Madonna that happened. We apologize here at CNN for that. Not often I get to say, "I was talking to Cher this morning," but I was talking to Cher this morning, and she was saying to me, Brooke, I'm 70 and I've been through 12 presidents. And she said, you know, when I think back to how far we've come as women, and her thought was it's incredible seeing all these young women out and about today, but they have no idea what it was like for her growing up. And she got very serious talking about rape issues and women's voice, and now I think at least to see these young women out and about is strong.

SCIUTTO: If I could just add, she used some colorful language, right. Let's remember, 24 hours ago, and I'm not equating it, but we had people during the inauguration chanting "lock her up." And I only mention that because folks know, we know from Christmas dinner conversations, right, that the level of emotion on each side can reach a crescendo. Not -- these are people we love, right? We've all had debates like this around the table on a number of issues, so you see it. Frankly, I'm not surprised. I think that's what she's speaking to there, and I'm sure a lot of folks in the audience when they heard that were like, right on, just as when we were at the inauguration here, some people commented, is that the right place to be chanting "lock her up"? But you know what, there were people high-fiving in the audience there because there's a level of emotion behind these differing political views.

BASH: I saw a woman at the mall yesterday watching Donald Trump give his address, and she was, I mean, I could just hear her moaning, her her weeping, her feeling what he was saying. It was --

BALDWIN: In support. BASH: Yes, in support. It was like she was at church and he was

preaching, and she was just so overwhelmed by his promise to the country.

BALDWIN: And I saw another woman this morning also weeping for a very different reason here at the march. There's so much happening in Washington. Guys, stand by. We're all standing by, actually, because we're waiting to hear from the president himself. He will be, in fact he already is at the CIA. He will address those cameras. We want to make sure we hear every word of that as he is now the 45th president of the United States. We'll be right back.


[14:58:29] BALDWIN: And we're back on this Saturday. I'm Brooke Baldwin. Thank you so much for being with me. This is CNN special live coverage of a day that will go down in history.

Hundreds of thousands of men and women gathering to march in major cities across the country and, really, around the world. We have pictures from all over for you. And you can just see from the top right to Madonna to the bottom left, New York, crisscrossing, zig- zagging, we've got it, these demonstrators gathering to send a message to President Trump, to the country, of course, on his first full day in office.

Now just also keep in mind, we're watching all the women. We're also waiting to hear from the 45th president momentarily as he'll be addressing members of the media at the CIA. His speech comes after he sharply criticized the intelligence community just before taking office. We'll take him as soon as we see him from the CIA. I can tell you that the president's motorcade reportedly sped past these protesters just to get to Langley, the CIA headquarters in Virginia. And you just can't ignore the contrast, marching distance from the commander in chief, thousands upon thousands standing strong with a message.


GLORIA STEINEM, LONGTIME FEMINIST ACTIVIST: This is the upside of the downside. It is wide in age, it is deep in diversity, and remember, the constitution does not begin with "I, the president." It begins with "We the people."

AMERICA FERRERA, ACTRESS: We will not go from being a nation of immigrants to a nation of ignorance.