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Hundreds of Thousands Marching Against Donald Trump; White House Says Trump's Inauguration Crowd "Largest Ever"; Trump Fashion Watch. Aired 7-8p ET
Aired January 21, 2017 - 19:00 ET
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[19:00:05] ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: OUTFRONT next, the breaking news this evening. Massive protests in Washington, D.C. and around the world. Tonight, hundreds of thousands marching against Donald Trump. We are live around the nation.
Plus, the White House tonight says President Trump's audience was the largest ever will ever to witness an inauguration quote "period." But we are going to check the facts.
And Ivanka's matching overcoat and headband, her sister-in-law's high heels in the White House bowling alley. The Trump fashion watch is now in full swing.
Let's go OUTFRONT.
And good evening and welcome to a special Saturday edition of OUTFRONT. We are live in Washington tonight. I'm Erin Burnett.
And OUTFRONT this evening, we begin with the breaking news. Donald Trump returning to the White House tonight. The streets of the nation's capital overflowing with protesters. Trump's motorcade returning from CIA headquarters just a short time ago. Secret service agents formed a cordon, basically, to block off the protesters, because they had come and gathered, of course, around the White House. Massive crowds descended on the city, which was the epicenter of protests across the country and around the world.
Thousands turning out in New York, Boston, Chicago, and Los Angeles. Women taking to the streets, joining hands with some men to raise awareness of women's rights and civil rights, standing up against Donald Trump on his second day in office.
Overseas, similar protests in London, Paris, Barcelona, and Sydney, Australia. Politicians and celebrities were at the major rallies. Speaker after speaker firing up the crowds.
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SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D), MASSACHUSETTS: We will not build a stupid wall. And we will tear millions of families apart. Not on our watch.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you force Muslims to register, we will all register as Muslims. MICHAEL MOORE, FILMMAKER: So I woke up this morning, picked up "the
Washington Post," and the headline read, Trump takes power. I don't think so!
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BURNETT: Let's begin our coverage tonight with Jessica Schneider. She's OUTFRONT outside Trump tower in New York. Thousands gathered there today.
Jessica, what is the scene where you are?
JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Erin, eight hours after this rally and march kicked off, protesters are still flooding Fifth Avenue, just behind me. They were aiming to bring their message directly to Donald Trump's doorstep. They will fall about two blocks short of that. That's because the NYPD has closed down the two blocks surrounding Trump tower.
But the elation and the cheers keep erupting from that crowd. They have been marching all day long here, spending some hours in gridlock, before making their way through the streets of New York City. The crowd is absolutely packing Manhattan today. People out here telling me, it wasn't about one singular message. It wasn't just about women's rights. This was about human rights and civil rights.
People I spoke with, they spanned men and women, young and old, parents and their children. I talked to one 10-year-old boy, who was very emotional, telling me he was out here because he wants things done when it comes to climate change, he is worried about immigration policies.
The NYPD, though, keeping these protesters back from Trump tower itself. But that not dampening the message out here. The NYPD, they do tell me this has been peaceful, this has been orderly, and tonight, Erin, they do say there have been no arrests. So a huge turnout, very peaceful out here - Erin.
BURNETT: All right, Jessica, thank you.
And of course, the center of today's protest is where we are sitting tonight, Washington, D.C. That is where demonstrators from across the country took to the streets to bring their message straight to President Trump's front door. And they did so. He could hear them inside the White House.
Kyung Lah is OUTFRONT.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But the president is not America. We are America.
KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A battle cry from a sea of pink on President Donald Trump's first full day as president.
Why did you want to come here?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I needed to come here on the turf of Donald Trump to let him know, I am not going to stand for it. I'm going to make a difference myself.
LAH: In the nation's capital, people from coast to coast descended. Hundreds of thousands of marchers filling almost every inch of the path on their way to the White House's backyard. Similar scenes playing out across the country. In St. Louis, the marchers filled the streets towards the gateway arch.
WARREN: Hello, women of Massachusetts!
LAH: In Boston, New York, Chicago, and around the world and more than 600 marches, according to organizers, the crowds were exponentially larger than expected.
WARREN: We come here to stand shoulder to shoulder, to make clear, we are here, we will not be silent, we will not play dead. We will fight for what we believe in.
[19:05:003] LAH: Some of the protesters came driven by fear.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm afraid of anybody who lacks the empathy to see their neighbor who's different than them and not treat them as equally American as anybody else.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have to say to Trump that we -- I'm not afraid of him. That we are together.
LAH: Is today's march about Donald Trump? What is it about?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Today's march is about creating a brighter future, despite who's in office.
LAH: A sentiment shared by celebrities headlining the events.
AMERICA FERRERA, ACTRESS/ACTIVIST: If we commit to what aligns us, if we stand together, steadfast and determined, then we stand a chance at saving the soul of our country.
ASHLEY JUDD, ACTRESS: We are here to be respected! We are here to be nasty! I am nasty, like Susan, Elizabeth, Eleanor, Amelia, Rosa, Gloria, Condoleezza, Sonia, Malala, Michelle, Hillary!
MADONNA, SINGER/ACTIVIST: Good did not win this election. But good will win in the end.
LAH: Marchers pledging to remain united as a loud opposition voice for the next four years.
LAH: So it was an incredible showing, so, what happens now? Well, we spoke to a lot of these women who say, they are going to go back home. They are going to continue and begin some sort of grassroots action on the community level. Just as this was the first full day for Donald Trump in office, they pledge that this is day one of their opposition - Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Kyung, thank you very much.
Now, Mark Preston, our senior political analyst, Nia-Malika Henderson, senior political reporter, Wendy Sherman, the former undersecretary of state for political affairs for President Obama. She was in the march today. Kayleigh McEnany, conservative contributor for "the Hill." Sally Kohn, political commentator. Also, participated in, organized today's march and the former senator from Pennsylvania, Republican Rick Santorum.
Wendy, let me start with you. You were marching. What made it -- how did you make that decision, that this was the place you wanted to be today?
WENDY SHERMAN, FORMER UNDERSECRETARY OF STATE FOR POLITICAL AFFAIRS FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, it was really quite extraordinary, as I think anybody else who went to the march felt today. I made the decision because, quite frankly, I was watching way too much of "say yes to the dress," drinking way too much wine, really needing to find some solidarity for the future. And some energy that I have long had and seemed to be dissipated by the darkness of the rhetoric that I was hearing, not only during the campaign, but as Donald Trump became president of the United States.
And if you look at the difference -- and quite frankly, the person who really got me to do this march was my daughter who lives on the web and knew about this march before I ever did, because this was the most democratic march that I have ever been part of. And I have been taking on marches since I was a teenager and my parents took me on civil rights marches. So this was really amazing.
BURNETT: And I have to say, here in Washington, there were a lot of young children and mothers and children. It was very much that sort of thing as well.
Sally, you were there. Jen Psaki, the former communications director for President Obama, was there too. She was concerned. And she wrote this today about it. I have a sinking feeling in my stomach about this march. Not because I am worried about the cold or the chaos, but because I worry it will give too many people license to congratulate themselves for their activism and move on with their daily lives. Do you share that concern? They have done their march, you go home, done.
SALLY KOHN, PARTICIPATED IN TODAY'S D.C. MARCH: A lot of positive things she said and look - I mean, let me clarify, too, I didn't organize the march. I was proud to endorse the march at the artist council. But I have, in my career as an organizer, I have organized marches like these. And you know, what's funny is they are usually like old reunions for us organizers. You see the same people every single time. And we were expecting, my partner and I were expecting we would see all our old friends. During the march, we didn't see a single person we knew. These are
new people being turned out, being possibly mobilized. It is inspiring, it is incredible. And let me say, if 10 percent of the people who marched today go home and do 10 percent more, we are going to see a more powerful, positive social justice movement in this country than we have seen in a very long time.
I am inspired, I am hopeful, I am so proud of our country today. I am proud -- and we're doing our job, as we the people. This is our job to hold the president accountable.
BURNETT: So, senator, obviously, the president was aware of this. We know that he was aware of the march. And he could hear it in the White House. It impacted him when he was coming back from the CIA, when the marchers were there, the secret service was involved. How should he respond?
RICK SANTORUM (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, I mean, look. I mean, the president knows people have the right to protest and peacefully protest, which by and large, I heard this protest was pretty peaceful. I think he is going to be struck -- I don't know anyone who wouldn't be struck by the fact that he has been in office less than 24 hours and already there's hundreds of thousands of people out there complaining about what he hasn't done or about what he's going to do. And they don't even know what he's going to do. That's one of the things that is sort of shocking about all of this.
If you would have had a protest like this back in 2009, the day after Barack Obama was put in office, can you imagine what the reports would be like? If you'd have had a third of the Republican caucus not showing up for Barack Obama's nomination -- inauguration. Imagine what the reports would be about.
Donald Trump has done almost nothing officially, and in fact, a lot of the things, officially, that he is actually talked about doing, are supported by someone on the other side of the aisle. And yet you see this horrendous -- not horrendous, but this tremendous outpouring of concern before the guy has had a chance to do anything.
[19:10:49] BURNETT: You have a point. But Kayleigh, they are there because he said he would ban Muslims. They are there because he said he would build a wall and most Mexican immigrants who came across were rapists. They are there for those reasons, for things he said. But he hasn't done anything yet. You are right. But things he said, that's why they are there.
KAYLEIGH MCENANY, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: That's right. And look, I respect the right of people to protest. I respect the first amendment. I respect this. And by all means, show up and voice your opinion. But do not call yourself a woman's march. I'm a woman. I'm part of the 42 percent of women who showed up and voted for Donald Trump, 42 percent.
To call yourself a women's march but then to purport and propose liberal values all day, to have Ashley Judd stand up and compare our new commander in-chief to Hitler, to Michael Moore seen at tabloid, have Elizabeth Warren standing up in a Planned Parenthood scarf, where nearly half of women think what Planned Parenthood does is commit genocide against the unborn, it gets unformed women --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's not true.
MCENANY: To call this a women's march is tremendously disrespectful to half of the women who do not agree --
BURNETT: Let me, Wendy, just give you this question because you said it was your daughter who inspired you. Was that a mistake -- I know you're going to disagree with part of what she said, but was it a mistake to make ate women's march and not something bigger or a people's march?
SHERMAN: You know, it was a women's march because it was inspired by women and our concern about losing our reproductive rights. People can make a choice. Kayleigh, you can have your choice and your position about being against abortion. But I'm a pro-choice woman and that is my choice. And that ought to be honored, as well. And the government shouldn't decide what happens to my life. I should get to make that decision.
So, I think this is about women. This is about inclusivity. There were lots of men. My husband went with me on this march and there were plenty of men at this march that also wanted -- we all have mothers, sisters, wives, daughters, and we want a bright and good and strong future for them. And there is great concern.
But, you know, what? Most people didn't even hear the folks who were at the podium, because there were so many women, you couldn't get close to the stage. Women were there to be with each other and to move forward. And I think they will go back and organize at the local level.
BURNETT: All right. We are going to hit pause for a moment.
We have news here from the press secretary, Sean Spicer. Just a little bit ago, he held a briefing. And the point of it was to criticize the media for underreporting the size of the crowd at Trump's inauguration. You are going to hear exactly what he said and we are going to check the facts.
Plus, Trump's controversial visit to the CIA and his message to the agency today.
And Donald Trump's daughter-in-law, bowling in the White House, in heels, and she did a pretty good job. I think she only missed three. Check me. That and other Trump family fashion statements, coming up, too.
[19:16:16] BURNETT: Breaking news moments ago, the new White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, it was his first briefing and it was exactly that. There was no Q&A. It was not a press conference the way they usually are. He came out with one thing to say, and that is this. The Trump administration says the audience for yesterday's inauguration was the largest ever.
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SEAN SPICER, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Photographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a way, in one particular tweet, to minimize the enormous support that had gathered on the national mall. This was the first time in our nation's history that floor coverings have been used to protect the grass on the mall. That had the effect of highlighting any areas where people were not standing, while in years past, the grass eliminated this visual.
This was also the first time that fencing and magnetometers went as far back on the wall, preventing hundreds of thousands of people from being able to access the mall as quickly as they had in inaugurations past.
Inaccurate numbers involving crowd size were also tweeted. No one had numbers, because the national parks service, which controls the national mall, does not put any out. By the way, this applies to any attempts to try to count the number of protesters today in the same fashion.
We do know a few things. So let's go through the facts. We know that from the platform, where the president was sworn in to fourth street, holds about 250,000. From Fourth Street to the media tent is about another 220,000, and from the media tent to the Washington monument, another 250,000 people.
All of this space was full when the president took the oath of office. We know that 420,000 people used the D.C. metro public transit yesterday, which actually compares to 317,000 that used it for President Obama's last inaugural.
This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe. Even "The New York Times" printed a photograph showing that a misrepresentation of the crowd in the original tweet, in their paper, which showed the full extent of the support, depth, and crowd and intensity that existed. These attempts to lessen the enthusiasm of the inauguration are shameful and wrong.
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BURNETT: All right. Here is the reality, though. You know, if they are going to lay down the gauntlet like this, then we are going to show you the facts. That is not what it looked like on the ground. When you compare these aerial images of yesterday's inauguration to President Obama's in 2009. So the Trump's inauguration was taken from television during his speech, peak time for the crowd.
Jim Acosta is OUTFRONT at the White House.
Jim, I want to go through this detail by detail. Sean Spicer threw out a lot of numbers there. What exactly is he talking about and what do we know? JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Erin, I think the
simple answer to your question, but we will get more complicated about this. The simple answer to your question at first is, we don't know what he's talking about. But when you go through these numbers, line by line, he starts off by saying, let's go through the facts. From the platform to Fourth Street, that holds 250,000 people, then from Fourth Street to the media tent is another 220,000, and from the media tent to the Washington monument is another 250,000 people. I have asked the White House where they're getting those numbers from. We are just not getting those numbers at this point. Hopefully they will send them to us.
It's also contradicted by the fact, Erin, that Sean Spicer said in that sound that you played that you don't have numbers, because the national parks service does not do numbers. So where do these numbers come from? It would be helpful to us if the White House were to provide that information.
Now, the other thing that should be mention is during this statement, he said this is the first time in the history of inaugurations that this white ground coverings that is used to protect the grass on the mall was ever used. That is just not the case. Our White House team has dug up pictures, one from Getty images, if you have those pictures, we can put them up on screen there. And it shows workers back in 2013, here is one image right here, laying those white ground coverings on the national mall to protect the grass. So that statement from the White House press secretary that this is the first time they have ever used these ground coverings, is just not accurate. And the list goes on and on, Erin.
[19:20:31] BURNETT: So, one thing specifically, when he was going through those numbers, when he made a comparison, Jim, was regarding the subway ridership, right? He said, I believe it was 420,000 people through the whole day.
BURNETT: You have had a chance to go through that and fact check that.
ACOSTA: That's right. "The Washington Post," and we want to credit "the Washington Post," they put out the latest numbers from the metro system here in the nation's capital. And it -- the "Washington Post" reported this morning that metro says that 570,000 people took trips in the system between early 4:00 a.m. Friday through midnight closing, which would have been midnight last night. In 2009, there were 1.1 million trips on the metro. And in 2013, there were 782,000 trips taken on the metro.
Erin, part of what Sean is doing here during this briefing, and by the way, there were no opportunities to ask questions, he left the room, is he is trying to say, well, this is the biggest inauguration crowd in the history of this country. But he says both in person and around the globe. He is trying to create a new metric here, in saying that, well, if you count the number of people watching here in Washington, on the ground, in Washington, and then on their TVs and on their phones and on their computers around the world, then you have the largest viewing audience in the history of inaugurations.
Erin, that's just not how we measure the audience for an inauguration. You measure it by the people who are on the ground, at these inaugurations. This just cuts to the core of one of Donald Trump's biggest insecurities, we saw throughout the campaign. He is just very insecure about reporting about crowd sizes. It happened time and again during the campaign.
BURNETT: Yes. Time and time again.
All right. Thank you very much, Jim.
Mark Preston is back with me, our chief political analyst. Gloria Borger joins me as well.
I mean, Mark, there is an absurdity in this entire conversation, OK? I think we can all acknowledge that. But if they are going to send out the press secretary to walk out of the oval office and walk to the podium and make this statement and not take questions and lay out all these things, with the subway ridership numbers, not even true, with then we are going to do our job and we are going to come as Jim Acosta just did and did his job. The facts are the facts here.
MARK PRESTON, CNN POLITICS EXECUTIVE EDITOR: The facts are the facts. And can you imagine that we are what, 31 hours plus into Donald Trump's presidency, and he chose today at a time when he could be working on so many things. He talked about right before he sworn in, he was going to use his first days in office to really move forward and get some things done. But he goes over to the CIA, he makes it about himself. He attacks the news media over there. And then he makes his press secretary, well, we can propose, walk the gangplank with absurd, absurd information.
BURNETT: And we are going to talk more about the CIA in a moment.
But Gloria, I mean, what do you make of that. Sean Spicer just coming out - I mean, clearly, that was a marching order. You go out and you do that and then you walk back in here.
GLORIA BORGER, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST: OK. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out the president of the United States was very upset, because he thought his crowds were underestimated. And I don't care what size the crowd was. This is day one of his administration. And it's incomprehensible to me that what he wants the discussion to be, in the first time Sean Spicer goes to the podium, is about how many people were out there on the mall.
Obviously, what's in his mind is the fact that millions of people are marching around the country. There is a large march going on in Washington today, in opposition to Donald Trump. And he wants to make sure that we know that --
BURNETT: His is bigger.
BORGER: His was bigger. And honestly, it's -- it clearly shows that if this is what he cares about on day one, on day one to have the administration. He was over at the CIA today, at that memorial wall. And I have heard from people who served in the CIA and people who served in the last administration, and former CIA director Brennan just came out with a statement On the Record, saying that Donald Trump quote "should be ashamed of himself." All of this about the numbers makes him look smaller.
BURNETT: Right. As I said, we are going to talk more about the CIA in a moment.
Ari Fleischer, obviously, press secretary under George W. Bush, Mark, came out and said, this is called a statement you are told to make by the president and you know the president is watching. He continued to say, you know, he is going to get -- Sean Spicer is going to get patted on the back for this.
You know, that this is going to be perceived as a success for him in that oval office, in that inner circle of Donald Trump and Kellyanne Conway and Steve Bannon and --
[19:25:12] PRESTON: Well, unfortunately, there's only a finite number of people that can actually fit into that oval office, right? Because a bigger issue at this point. Let's just, so our viewers understand how this really works in Washington.
The president gets upset about something. The president now is Donald Trump. He gets so upset about something, he brings his people into the office. He gives them marching orders. What do you if you are the spokesperson for the leader of the free world? You feel this enormous amount of pressure that's put upon you, and you agree --
BURNETT: Well, Sean Spicer had no choice.
PRESTON: You agree to go out and --
BORGER: Well --.
BURNETT: I mean, what was his choice, Gloria? I resign?
BORGER: I don't know. I like Sean a lot, but did he have a choice? I mean, you can say to the president, you know, Mr. President, I don't think, on day one of your administration that talking about crowd size at your inauguration is the best thing to do. Nor is it a great thing to do at the memorial wall at the CIA.
PRESTON: But, this is even a bigger this evening, too, right? We have been talking about this day in and day out. And quite frankly, he did it on his inauguration day last night where he went to the military balls. He supposedly took questions from soldiers over in Afghanistan, which they were all congratulatory salutations, which you would expect soldiers saying that to their commander in-chief. And Donald Trump said, it is so nice, you are being so nice to me. Wow, it's so nice to get - these are really nice question.
BURNETT: Well, and I was in the room, he said, as opposed to those people in the back of the room, right. I mean, it was the usual media riff. PRESTON: This is what scares me. And I think it should scare
everybody. Quite frankly, if Donald Trump feels like he has been attacked, then he is going to do something to try to attack you back. OK, that's fine during a pressure campaign. When you are the leader of the free world, you have got to be careful. And I don't know if he is -- right now, what we have seen today, does he really have the fortitude to hold it in the inner strength.
BURNETT: We have seen thin skin.
BORGER: Yes. But this is thin skin. It's insecurity. But he did say in his inaugural address, this is about, you the people. And if it's about you the people, then stop saying, it's about me and my crowd size and everything else. You measure a president by what he achieves.
PRESTON: And his actions.
BORGER: That's the ultimate measurement.
BURNETT: All right. Thank you both.
And OUTFRONT next, three generations of women descending on Washington today with a message for President Trump. That family is OUTFRONT tonight.
Plus, President Trump's visit to the CIA. I want to play for you what he said, so you can understand exactly what happened. Those stars behind him are representative of those who died in the line of service for the CIA.
And our exclusive video of the now former president, his first day away from the oval office. He wasn't watching the crowds. He was playing golf.
[19:31:14] BURNETT: Breaking news. The former CIA director, John Brennan, coming out against President Trump about his visit today to the CIA. Brennan's former deputy chief of staff tweeting this. Former CIA director Brennan is deeply saddened and angered at Trump's despicable display of self-aggrandizement in front of CIA's memorial wall of agency heroes. Brennan says that Trump should be ashamed of himself.
And it's just one of multiple fights that is already brewing in Washington for President Trump on the second day of his presidency, the first full day.
Manu Raju is OUTFRONT.
MANU RAJU, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER (voice-over): Moments after he was sworn into office, President Donald Trump and the leaders of Congress were all smiles. But now he will have to navigate the land mines his foes are setting for him on Capitol Hill.
Trump is still waiting for the Senate to confirm most of his cabinet, with just two of his nominees confirmed on his first day in office.
At the CIA on Saturday, he complained that Democrats were holding up a final vote on his nominee to run the agency. Congressman Mike Pompeo, who is expected to be confirmed on Monday.
TRUMP: They are doing little political games.
RAJU: Oregon senator Ron Wyden, who delayed Pompeo's confirmation vote, is firing back.
SEN. RON WYDEN (D), OREGON: Mike Pompeo is proposing a brand-new system, collecting an enormous amount of data on Americans, law- abiding Americans, including lifestyle information. I think that's the kind of thing that you ought to take a little bit of time to examine.
RAJU: Trump is facing more democratic resistance over eight of his cabinet nominees. Including Jeff Sessions, to be attorney general. Betsy DeVos to lead the education department, and Tom Price to run health and human services.
SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D), OHIO: My concern is that candidate Trump talked at every rally in my state and elsewhere about clearing the swamp and I -- this one nominee after another looks to be the White House full of Goldman Sachs' executive retreat.
RAJU: On Monday, Trump's next big test. His pick for secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, faces a vote in the Foreign Relations Committee. That's where Republican senator Marco Rubio is considering voting with Democrats to try and stall the nomination over his concerns on Tillerson's views on Russia. Rubio is still on the fence.
SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R), FLORIDA: I don't anything to announce on that yet.
RAJU: Later in the week, Trump will travel to Philadelphia to meet with house and Senate Republicans at a party retreat. At the top of the agenda, getting on the same page over plans to repeal and replace Obamacare, already some Republicans are pushing back on Trump's recent call to provide everybody with health insurance.
SEN. ORRIN HATCH (R), UTAH: The problem is, is that you can't do it and make over promises on everything. So we have to be very careful because there is a limit to what we can do.
RAJU: And the health care fight in a lot of ways is tied to the nomination of Congressman Price to lead the health and human services department. And one of Trump's first move as presidents, he actually signed an executive order that would give Price, if he's confirmed, more discretion to weaken the law. And Republicans expect him to issue new regulations, as part of their overall replacement plan. Price, however, continues to face questions about some of his
financial transactions. He is going to undergo a second day of questioning from senators in the coming week. Erin, while Trump may get most, if not all of his nominees confirmed, Democrats can certainly slow down the process - Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Certainly, thank you very much, Manu.
And I want to talk a lot more about what happened at the CIA today. First, though, to Doug Brinkley, I want to go to you, presidential historian, also joining this conversation. Jim Sciutto, our national security correspondent is, as well.
But on this issue of the nominees, right? Chuck Schumer had say, day one, you are going to get Mike Pompeo at the CIA. Not happening, obviously. Mike Pompeo will be confirmed. He was at the CIA today for Trump's appearance there. But this is a risk for Democrats. That they are seen as slowing this down, or Chuck Schumer is seen as not keeping his word.
[19:35:28] DOUGLAS BRINKLEY, PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: Yes. It is seen as a bit of a risk because ultimately all of Trump's picks are going to get pushed through, I mean -- but it's going to be a delay and a stall. And I think the women's march gave Democrats a little bit of oomph. Let's fight. The big words here was fight Donald Trump. But at the end of the day, very -- I doubt any Republicans are going to bolt Donald Trump. And so he is going to get the cabinet he wants.
BURNETT: So I want to talk about what happened today with Mike Pompeo. He went to the CIA and he appeared before that wall of stars. And I want to talk about the importance of that in a moment. But first, just something that he said. He started by praising the CIA, OK, that's important. Then we went on --.
JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: He actually started praising FOX News, then he went to the FOX News.
BURNETT: OK, let me get my order right. Then he went on to slam the media, as he did at his ball last night including the armed services ball that I was attending. Here was what he said about crowd size.
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TRUMP: I have a running war with the media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on earth, right. And they sort of made it sound like I had a feud with the intelligence community. And I just want to let you know, the reason you are the number one stop is exactly the opposite.
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BURNETT: So these are the things where it's important to call Donald Trump out and to speak truth to power. It is not the media that said that Donald Trump had a feud with the intelligence community. Let me just play for everyone what Donald Trump said. Donald Trump --
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TRUMP: I think it was disgraceful, disgraceful that the intelligence agencies allowed any information that turned out to be so false and fake out. I think it's a disgrace. And I say that, and I say that, and that's something that Nazi Germany would have done and did do. I think it's a disgrace.
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BURNETT: The facts are the facts in this case.
SCIUTTO: Listen, what he said at the CIA today was contrary to the facts. And the record is there. Not just from his statements on camera, but his many tweets, accusing the intelligence community of politicizing the intelligence, specifically on Russian interference in the election.
The phrase, like Nazi Germany, a lot of tweets were -- he said, intelligence in quotes, you know, in effect, you know, impugning the reputation and the assessment of the U.S. intelligence community. So those are the facts. What he said today at the CIA today was just flatly contrary to the facts. But it was the place where he said it. And I speak to a lot of folks in the CIA and other agencies in the intelligence community, which particularly upset people. That's in front of the memorial wall.
Each of those stars is -- 117 stars, CIA operatives who died in the line of duty. Some of them we know, some of them we don't. Some of them we never will know because the nature of what they do. But let me just, for the sake of our audience name a couple of them. Johnny Michael Span. He was the first American killed in Afghanistan after 9/11 in November inside a Taliban prison in the north. I remember covering that story as it happens.
The two CIA officers who were killed in Benghazi, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods. They are two of the stars name there. There was no mention of that sacrifice. And this is hallowed ground. This is the CIA's Arlington, in effect. Because that's what they have. And the nature of their service is quiet. Quiet service.
They have those stars there, the president came to the CIA, punitively, to express his support for the CIA and didn't make a mention of that. Don't listen to what I have to say about it. Listen to the text and the emails I have been getting from folks inside the intelligence community all day, talking about that hallow ground and just the insult and disrespect they felt.
BURNETT: And so, Kayleigh, let me give you a chance to just answer the question as to why Trump would do that, right. He went in front of those stars. There had to be somewhere around him to say, this is important. There are people who walk by this every single day at the CIA and they pay homage to those who lost their lives. The former CIA director coming out and say what he said a display of self- aggrandizement in front of the CIA's wall of memorial wall of agency heroes. He is arguing about his crowd size, he is arguing about who it was that picked a fight with the intelligence the community. Would you agree that it was in bad taste?
MCENANY: I don't think so. Because, look, let's put this in context. Last night Donald Trump stood at a military ball and praised the heroes there. There is no one who doubts Donald Trump's respect for the military, his commitment to the military, these armed service men and women, in fact, voted for Donald Trump far more than they came out and voted for Hillary Clinton.
What he did today I think breaks with the norms of what the punditry class expects of him. But I think the factory worker in Michigan looks at the speech, for instance, Donald Trump gave yesterday and they don't care about the poetic prose that were in there or were not in there, how it compared to Lincoln's address. I don't think they mind that today he called o out the media at the CIA. He did, in fact, he has to mention praise the CIA and say, I have immense respect for the intelligence community. I think the people out there who voted for Donald Trump care about if they have a job coming forward in the next few months, care about if they have food on the table for their family.
[19:40:23] BURNETT: But Kayleigh, wasn't the audience there not that person. The audience there, Senator Santorum, were the people who work for the CIA and the people who walk by that wall. He continue -- let's play a little bit more of what he said. Here he is again at the CIA this afternoon.
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TRUMP: And they said, Donald Trump did not draw well. I said, it was almost raining. The rain should have scared them away, but God looked down and said, we are not going to let it rain on your speech.
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BURNETT: Senator, do you think what he did today at the CIA was appropriate for the venue, or that someone should have said, not there, not now?
RICK SANTORUM (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm a big fan of what Donald Trump campaigned on. I'm a big fan of what he talked about in his speech. I think Donald Trump is the most effective when he sticks to the script of what he talked about at the inaugural, which is, I'm here fighting for you. When he goes off and talks about things that have to do with him, he is not talking about things that really got him elected. And so my feeling is, he is stronger if he sticks to the script.
Having said that, Donald Trump hasn't stuck to the script since the moment he went after that escalator and announced for president. Over time, I believe, he will be chastened a little bit, because of some of the things he is doing, and the reaction -- you're seeing the reaction. And I think it's a fairly broad reaction, to what he said. And I'm hopeful that he will realize that your comments about his inaugural, which was negative and dark, I don't know of anybody out there that I have talked to or anybody I've talked to period who believed he had a negative and dark inaugural address. You may, but what he talked about was there are millions of people out there who are experiencing these things. And there are. And that's what they heard. That's not what many here heard. And so, I would just say that Donald Trump is best when Donald Trump is out there fighting for working men and women. And that's what --
BURNETT: So let me just ask you a question because you talked to him. Is this something that he could learn from -- I'm talking, again, about specifically what happened today? What Jim is talking about?
BRINKLEY: No, he's not going to learn, guys. This is what you're going to get. There's an unhinged quality to him. That's his personality. I think we have to stop thinking there's a new, new Donald Trump coming down the road. He is -- today, I thought he was - I have never seen a president of the United States, since the birth of TV that unhinged at a memorial service, essentially, talking to the CIA -- I think it was great he said he is a thousand percent behind you, but to start talking about yourself nonstop, it seemed like a little 7-year-old. Like, and it's -- I'm worried about that aspect of him. This isn't a campaign trail and we don't have time for personality --
BURNETT: And Jim, in this conversation, let me give the last word to you, because I want to give you a chance to, when you are talking to people who work at the CIA, is that morale fundamentally affected, or no? Is this something, you know, they serve the country. Donald Trump can say and do what he wants, and they are going to continue to serve their country?
SCIUTTO: Listen. You know, they are tough guys, right? Men and women, who are many out in the field, many of them here, they have very hard work, and they are focused on their jobs. But I will tell you, these weeks -- and keep in mind, it's not just today, but these weeks of critical comments coming from the president-elect and now the president raise serious questions. One being, will the work that I do as an intelligence professional be accused of being politicized if it's information that the president finds uncomfortable? And that's the concern.
SHERMAN: And will another government share intelligence with me anymore?
SCIUTTO: Well, that's a question, too. And I just want to, you know, Kayleigh said earlier, you know, it's a punditry class view of this. And I just want to be clear that I'm hearing from folks inside. I just want to quote one, one of the many texts I got today. It is, and this is surrounded by asterisks, it is our hallowed ground, it is your place to call it out. We Intel professionals are apolitical and quiet. You have to call it like it is.
You know, I'm not getting those from like Democratic Party operatives. I'm getting them from folks who take their job very seriously and they have heard this for some time.
BURNETT: And I will say, just before we go, sort of just something I want to share. Last night I was at that armed services ball, and at the end, several -- more than I can count, specifically, so I would say, somewhere between five and ten, people came over and said, we fight for freedom of the press. Don't worry about what he says. We trust in what you all are doing. You are doing a good job. And I thought that was significant, because you know what, the people in that room, they were Trump supporters. They weren't saying this to be negative about Donald Trump. They were saying it because they believe in the media's job to do its job. And that is what we will endeavor to try to do.
All right. Well, next, breaking news. Crowds growing tonight in San Francisco at an anti-Trump rally. You are looking at live pictures of people in the streets.
Plus, three women, a mother, a grandmother, and a granddaughter, they were marching today.
And the fashion designer behind the first lady. We know a whole lot more about him tonight, and you will soon, too.
[19:48:11] BURNETT: The breaking news tonight, protesters filling the streets in cities across the country on President Trump's first full day in office. Right now, live pictures of demonstrators in San Francisco.
Meanwhile in Washington, a sea of pink for the women's march.
In New York, people packing in, sidewalk to sidewalk.
Protesters in downtown Los Angeles, the LAPD saying crowd estimates there, right now well past 100,000.
OUTFRONT now, three generations of women who were at today's march in Washington, Virginia Wilcox, her daughter, Katherine Clark, and her granddaughter, Brianna Clark.
And I appreciate all of you coming and talking to me. So you all made the trip here from Pennsylvania, from Massachusetts, to come together.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
VIRGINIA WILCOX, MARCHED TODAY WITH DAUGHTER AND GRANDDAUGHTER: Because we think it's women's rights are human rights. And we think it's important for the generations to have these experiences and form a community that will continue to speak truth to power.
BURNETT: And Katherine, why was it so important you all come together, right? I mean, you came as a family, three generations.
KATHERINE CLARK, MARCHED TODAY WITH MOTHER AND DAUGHTER: We did. Family is really important. Family is how you teach the next generation of people how to live in the world, how to be appropriate with other people, how to treat them, how to respect them. How to be around them. And so, it's important to come together with ourselves and with all the others.
BURNETT: So Brianna, when I was -- I know you had a chance to speak to our producer about an experience you had, that was the reason you came here. And I wanted to give you a cans because you said something about how you realized that because of who you are, because of the color of your skin, when you walk into a room, you expect that people will hear you and listen to you. And then when you realize that others that you work, as a grocery store manager, don't feel that way, that's part of why you're here. Explain what you meant.
BRIANNA CLARK, MARCHED TODAY WITH MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER: That's definitely true. I feel like I was sort of afforded the privilege to expect that, fair or not. And to me, it is important to be here today to stand up for the members of the community that are most vulnerable. And it is most important to protest on the, behalf of -- vulnerable women, black women, people of color, immigrant women. I want to stand up today with my family to hold those women up.
[19:50:28] BURNETT: And do you all feel that Donald Trump might listen to you? That he has a chance to listen to you and make you end up saying, OK, he has done things for women, right? He has put forward things like, paid maternal leave. Is there something he could do that would make you say, OK, I think he heard me? And he listened?
K. CLARK: New cabinet picks.
WILCOX: Yes, new cabinet picks.
K. CLARK: Paying attention to the environment. LGBTQ community.
B. CLARK: Let in more refugees.
K. CLARK: Yes. Not stigmatize people of, any other faith.
B. CLARK: Hold up Roe V. Wade.
BURNETT: A lot of things (INAUDIBLE)
All right. Well, Virginia, Katherine, Brianna, I appreciate all of you taking the time and thank you so much for coming and talking to us.
K. CLARK: Thank you.
BURNETT: And President Trump today attended an interfaith prayer service today that is in line with inaugural tradition on the day after inauguration after the night of balls the first family kept making waves. Today jackets were the highlight. The first lady in black. Ivanka Trump wearing a maroon coat and matching headband. Last night, though, of course, was about the gowns.
Jessica Schneider is OUTFRONT.
JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The band played hail to the chief but all eyes were on the first lady. Melania Trump simply elegant in an off the shoulder, white crape column gown with just a hint of color, a thin burgundy belt, as the new president and Mrs. Trump were introduced at three inaugural balls.
Mrs. Trump helped design her gown. The former model knows high fashion and she work with the designer, (INAUDIBLE), French-born, BUT now an American citizen, American designers a must, given her husband's strong rhetoric against products made overseas. Finding American designers though, no easy task. Several including Mark Jacobs, and Tom Ford reportedly refuse to dress Mrs. Trump for political reasons.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is Mrs. Pence and there is Melania Trump. Let's listen up.
SCHNEIDER: The first lady began the day making an entrance that can only be called stunning. Ralph Lauren designed her powder blue cashmere coat and dress accented with suede gloves. Across the aisle, Hillary Clinton wore her trademark pant suit all in white and ironically also by Ralph Lauren.
We saw her come out in this blue outfit. And everyone immediately thought Jackie. She doesn't need to say Mrs. Kennedy is going to be her role model because her clothes are saying it loud and clear for her.
But it was Jackie Kennedy who many remembered as they commented on Mrs. Trump's ensemble, the color, the color, the style, reminiscent of Mrs. Kennedy's regal inaugural dress 56 years earlier.
First daughter Ivanka Trump was not to be outdone. With her children close at hand, Ivanka wore a dramatic white pantsuit to the inauguration designed by Oscar de la Renta. For evening wear she chose another powerhouse, Carolina Herrera dressed in a gold bold gown, jeweled sleeves and bell-shaped skirt.
Tiffany Trump wore a strapless, metallic gown. And the wives of Eric and Donald Trump Jr., Leera and Vanessa, wore gowns in shades of red and gold.
Trump's senior adviser, Kellyanne Conway's coat went viral. She called the red, white and blue military-inspired look, Trump revolution wear. Conway broke with the day's theme. Her coat from Italian house of Gucci.
This morning, the fashion parade continued. Vanessa Trump wearing a plum coat, accented with matching gold, was spotted bowling in heels.
Jessica Schneider, CNN, New York.
BURNETT: Kate Betts is OUTFRONT Fashion journalist. She wrote "Everyday Icon" about Michelle Obama's style.
And obviously, when we look at what we saw last night and now today, these women have a lot of style. And they are, seem to be very coordinated as well, right? Which is not easy to do when you are thinking of the sheer number of outfits they have to consider. But down to their coats it seems that way.
KATE BETTS, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, they do come to the White House with a certain amount of fashion fluency. They are kind of a fashion family from New York, Ivanka has her own brand. Melania was a model. So they know how to dress for this occasion. And then there is also the fact that they are a large family. And so they want to have this kind of look on the table as we keep talking about.
BETTS: The kind of color --.
BURNETT: They want to look consistent.
BETTS: They want to look consistent. They want to stand out. They are wearing certain colors that are very obvious in the crowd. And I think they, you know, I think the feeling is that obviously there is some allusions to Jackie Kennedy, who is the one that Melania wore to the inauguration, Ivanka dressing in a coordinated, kind of colorful pallet shows her kind of fashion fluency. And the fact that she is very groomed and wants to standout.
BURNETT: Now, of course, what they have learned so far, incredibly expensive clothes people canned afford them. Will there be a lot of knock-offs? I mean, immediately, is it going to spark that or no?
BETTS: Well, I think because they are in this incredible position, obviously women are looking to them, there will be a lot of knock- offs. Now, one thing I would look to point out historically, is that Jackie Kennedy's clothing was knocked off a lot. But it was very simple. The shapes were very simple. It is easy to copy. These clothes are high fashion. Couture. They are harder to copy. So it will be interesting to see how many knock-offs there are.
BURNETT: Right. Or adjustments, sorry.
Thank you very much, Kate Betts.
And right now, we have some exclusive video in, actually the former president, Obama, playing golf in Rancho Mirage, California on his first full day out of office. Even driving the golf cart. You know, that was probably something that he really relished doing.
The Obamas left Washington right after the inauguration yesterday. They were actually forced to delay the start of their Palm Spring vacation because of bad weather on the west coast. And Southern California caused their plane to be diverted. But there he was on the golf course. Certainly not watching television.
We will be right back.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) [19:59:47] BURNETT: All right t. Well, thanks so much to all of you for joining us on this special coverage out of Washington. Our breaking news coverage of the first full day of Donald Trump's administration. And of the women's march on Washington and around the country begins right now and continues now with Andersen Cooper "360."