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Inauguration of Donald Trump as President of the United States; The Women's March Kicks Off in Washington; Aired 5-6:00a ET

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[05:00:00] JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: just off a big day in Washington. Today will be a big day in Washington.

I'm John Berman. It is Saturday, January 21st. 5:00 a.m. in the East. Want to welcome our viewers here in the United States and all around the world.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN ANCHOR: Such a beautiful capitol.

BERMAN: It is.

ROMANS: Look at this. A misty, misty day.

BERMAN: I'm biased. I think it's beautiful each and every morning, and for the first time the sun is rising on a Trump presidency and all the action moves from the capitol behind us to the White House to see what action he will be taking at that end of Pennsylvania Avenue and after a night of dancing, he wakes up for the first time in his new home. This is a government home. This is not a Trump building. He's already taken his first actions in governing, including signing an executive order. This will begin the dismantling of Obamacare.

CNN's Athena Jones has the latest now from our Washington bureau -- Athena.

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, John. On this first full day at the White House President Trump is going to be heading to a national prayer service at the National Cathedral a little while. And this is going to be a relatively light schedule compared to yesterday, a big momentous jam-packed day that ended with three inaugural balls attended by the president and the first lady.

Now First Lady Melania Trump got a lot of attention throughout the day yesterday for her outfit choices, especially that powder blue Ralph Lauren dress she wore during the day for the inaugural ceremony. Many saw that as a pretty direct reference to Jackie Kennedy. Very Jackie Kennedy-esque outfit.

And as for the inaugural ceremony, itself, President Trump delivered a fiery, populist speech focusing on America first. Very much in line with some of the themes we heard from him on the campaign trail. But he also painted a pretty bleak picture of America. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities. Rusted out factories, scattered-like tombstones across the landscape. The crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

JONES: And that usually the word carnage got a lot of attention. It's an unusual word to hear in an inaugural address. He also used words like robbed, stolen, and trapped. Other words that are -- that you don't often here in an inaugural address. But the president also got right into action. He had promised to take meaningful action on day one and one of those actions was to sign an executive order involving Obamacare.

Now the order doesn't get rid of the law. But it does direct agencies to minimize the financial impacts of the law by interpreting the regulations in such a way as to help health providers and individuals and others manage the financial burden. That means that they can waive or defer or grant exemptions from or delay implementation of any provision that could cause problems for people. So that's the president trying to make good on his promise to dismantle Obamacare and make it clearly he's going to do that.

Also there was action on Capitol Hill yesterday. The president's two first Cabinet picks were approved by the Senate by overwhelming votes. That is retired Marine General James Mattis as secretary of Defense and retired Marine General John Kelly to head up the Department of Homeland Security. Back to you.

BERMAN: We may not get another vote on a Cabinet pick until Monday when I think the CIA director will finally be voted on to be confirmed there.

All right. Athena Jones, for us, thanks so much.

ROMANS: Now you saw that powder blue suit. Donald Trump's wife Melania and daughter Ivanka drawing a lot of admiring attention for their fashion choices on inauguration day. Last night Melania Trump wore this jaw-dropping white gown. Beautiful. To these balls. She worked on the dress herself we're told with Herve Pierre, the former creative director of Carolina Herrera.

BERMAN: Do they have -- if you go to a store and you buy dresses off a rack, is there a category of jaw-dropping gowns? I mean, like, is there one section that's like not jaw-dropping, the other section is jaw-dropping?

ROMANS: I think you're talking about dressing for inauguration in a whole different category. I think you don't just walk in with your hand bag. OK. Earlier in the day, she channeled Jackie Kennedy, as Athena said, at the inaugural ceremony with the sky blue Ralph Lauren cashmere jacket and turtleneck dress. Ivanka Trump, his daughter, stunned at last night's Liberty Ball in

this gold Carolina Herrera ball gown with jeweled sleeves. She got a lot of credit for that.

BERMAN: It's my favorite kind of sleeves.

ROMANS: I know. She looks great. For the swearing in ceremony, she chose a white pant suit by Oscar De La Renta. And the rest of the family I will say getting very high marks as well. The whole family is sort of these balls in varying shades of -- you know, like gold tones, silver tones, all kinds of metal tones.

BERMAN: Much like the Trump flame.

ROMANS: Yes, exactly. They do not leave the gold lame and the spangled --

BERMAN: You keep saying, you know, they get high marks. Do people ever get low marks for what they wear around an inauguration?

ROMANS: I don't know. I mean, I think that -- look, I think that they brought a lot of New York fashion here. I mean, when you just look at sort of the architecture again of all the events, it was very classic American in New York I felt. Did you?

[05:05:03] BERMAN: Look, I think people look great. And I like the tuxedos.

ROMANS: I love what you wear yesterday. I saw you up there on the parade route. You looked wonderful.

BERMAN: I was going with something more warm. You know, it was jaw- droppingly warm, what I was wearing yesterday.

ROMANS: Let's bring our panel back. CNN political analyst and columnist for the "Washington Post" Josh Rogin, CNN politics reporter Eugene Scott, and political economist Greg Valliere, he's the chief strategist at Horizon Investments.

Welcome, everybody. To stay on this subject, Eugene, what I think is interesting is there is a picture now of the Trump world. The tableaux of Trump. He has now -- he is the guy in Washington. And I think that there is a new tone that is being set. Even by, you know, the optics of this. You've got his daughter here and her husband who will be a big part, we think, of his administration. His wife will go back tomorrow I think to New York. Right? His son, the 10-year-old is going to say in New York for the next few months. It's a whole new team in town.

EUGENE SCOTT, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: It definitely is. One of the really interesting things about when you elect a leader, especially here in the United States, Americans don't just look at the president, they look at the family. I mean, you hear people who have very kind and emotional responses to Michelle Obama and the girls as well. And you see that also with the Trump family when you talk to a lot of the supporters. And one of the things that I find myself hearing often from people who

voted for Donald Trump is that his whole image, his whole brand is very aspirational. And it makes many people feel like they too can have something great, maybe if they buy something Ivanka Trump's line or a Trump neck tie that they, too, somehow can get a grasp of this American dream that they think the Trump family embodies.

JOSH ROGIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I just want to let you know I was wearing a suit by Men's Wearhouse. OK. Just for the record.

BERMAN: I think they maybe could tell.

(LAUGHTER)

ROGIN: Yes. Exactly. That's great. I know I thought it was interesting that one of the very first orders of business for the Trump administration was to take the trims and drapes down in the Oval Office or replace them with bright gold drapes. OK. Like, there's a lot of things they had to do yesterday but they made sure that got done.

BERMAN: First of all, the Oval Office -- the decor of the Oval Office is actually always changed within those hours between one outgoing and one incoming president. So I think the fact that it was changing in and of itself not a surprise. You know, the fact that -- I think it was Reagan-esque. Right? Gold -- didn't Reagan have a similar setup to that? I'm not 100 percent sure.

Eugene, though -- Josh, I want to pick up something Eugene said that's really interesting. We're talking about the Trump being aspirational.

ROGIN: Sure.

BERMAN: Because if you look at the overall themes from yesterday, people noticed it was bleak.

ROMANS: Yes.

BERMAN: People picked up on the American carnage line. People want to know where the hope, where the shining city on the hill is. And it's interesting, Eugene's take on it is that there are people who look at all of that and say there is an element of aspiration.

ROGIN: Sure. Sure. I think that's fair. And I also think that what Trump does best is brand himself.

SCOTT: Right.

ROGIN: Not just him and his family. They're international branders. They've expanded their brand in ways that -- you know, has never really been done before. I mean, there is no reason they shouldn't take that skill and apply it to what they're doing now. People, you know, around the world have associated the Trump brand to high level of quality, elegance, refinement. You know, luxury. Right. That's what they've been selling. And that's what they did sell during the campaign to a lot of people. Now can they deliver that sort of high standard of living and that

sort of image on the ground? That remains to be seen.

ROMANS: It's fascinating that a guy who lives in a marble tower, he literally lives in a marble tower.

SCOTT: Right.

ROGIN: Right.

ROMANS: Is the -- is the hope for people who feel like they don't have any hope or the working class.

VALLIERE: He needs her. I make this point about her. And by the way, I'm going to wear North Face this week.

(LAUGHTER)

VALLIERE: He needs her. She softens him.

ROMANS: Ivanka? Or Melania?

VALLIERE: Melania, both of them really. But he was so bleak, you're right. And he's a tough guy. Doesn't smile a lot. But having her so elegantly dressed near him softens his image a little. I think that's a plus.

BERMAN: Talk about again some of the themes from yesterday. People look at this as the most populist inaugural address ever. More populist than Andrew Jackson's, you know, who was considered the first populist president. I read Andrew Jackson, both of his inauguration speeches, yesterday there were nothing, nothing like what we heard from Donald Trump yesterday.

ROMANS: And he talked about the free press. Andrew Jackson talked about a free press.

BERMAN: Andrew Jackson rejoiced in the free press, which we didn't hear from Donald --

ROMANS: Yes, he did. For the record, everyone.

BERMAN: I want to play just a little bit more from Donald Trump yesterday.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: Today we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another or from one party to another. But we are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BERMAN: Again, and that was very high up in his speech.

ROMANS: Yes.

BERMAN: After thanking the former presidents, he basically, you know, was slapping the former presidents and people on that stage.

ROGIN: Right. Right. And I think starting today we're going to see how that's going to play out because, of course, he's got to staff his administration, 5,000 people. A lot of them are the Washington power players and elites, Republican Party apparatchiks, that he keeps saying that he's going to get rid of. And then the other set are mostly billionaires, businessmen, investment guys, military guys.

[05:10:02] All right. So you've got these two competing power centers now in D.C. Which one represents the little guy? I'm not really sure. But it's going to be a struggle.

BERMAN: And again, I still don't know, and again, we're -- you know, we're only hours into the presidency, I don't know if what is said and what is done will march hand-in-hand. You know, I'm not sure that the things he will do will necessarily be as purely populist as the words he says.

ROGIN: Sure.

BERMAN: We're going to talk about this more in a second. We're going to take a break. Because even as President Trump was taking the oath of office, there were protests -- really riots in some parts of the cities. Those were riots. We saw violence yesterday. Today we're expecting to see protests -- peaceful protests. Thousands, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands on their way here right now. We are live on a bus coming this way. That's next.

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ROMANS: Today, one day after the Trump inauguration, hundreds of thousands of people are expected to take part in the Women's March on Washington. It is the centerpiece of what is actually a global movement, reacting against the Trump presidency. Marches and protests were planned today in cities across the country and really around the world.

CNN's Brynn Gingras is on the road this morning with one group of protesters. They are traveling by bus from New York City to Washington.

Good morning, Brynn. I met a lot of women yesterday on the streets who had already gotten here. They wanted to make sure they got here in time for 10:00 to begin the march. Tell me about the women you're with today.

BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Oh yes, Christine, anticipation is building on this bus. Everybody is sort of getting settled in. Right? Are we excited?

Everyone started getting settled in, as a result right now, in Union Square and we're leaving in five minutes to head down to Washington, D.C. for about a five, six-hour drive. I got to tell you, though. This is just one of many buses that are circling around Union Square at this point. Several groups, women, men, children, families, all together, getting excited for this historical march.

[05:15:03] And I did. I talked to a few of these people. And you know, it's mothers bringing their daughters. It's people flying from other states coming here to New York City to join family members, and to get onto bus and to get down to D.C. and join again.

This march really is ground breaking. A lot of people excited. We're getting excited because we've got a lot to speak about. I've seen some signs already.

What kind of stuff have we brought with us, guys? We're going to get that organized --

(LAUGHTER)

Right. The next time I see you, Christine, we really are just getting settled in at this point. Look at that, a jacket made with -- is this stitching? Oh, this is like paint. There we go. Pretty amazing stuff but again, everyone is super excited, Christine. And this isn't the only one. There are, of course, as you know, marches happening all around the United States. Major cities and we are hoping for and we are looking forward to a peaceful march where all these women's voices can be we heard, Christine.

ROMANS: Brynn, specifically what is their message? Is there one unifying message? Is it against Donald Trump? Is it for something in particular?

GINGRAS: Well, Christine, honestly, I've been covering these protests for months now. And the message hasn't changed. There are some people who this is something against Trump. They don't want him to be our president. Other side, this is about unifying and speaking out against some of the things that now president said during his election and really just trying to sit together, and let everyone know that their voices are heard. And they don't believe in maybe some of the things that he's been saying throughout this election process.

So really that message, while it is unifying, it is different, depending on who you ask. One thing I can say, though, is I've talked to so many people. And they said their voices are not only going to be heard today, it's going to continue throughout these four years. They're not going to be quiet. That's for sure, Christine.

ROMANS: All right, Brynn Gingras, we'll check in with you again. Bring some more props. We want to see what they're going to be. They have five hours to get all their stuff together before they get here. Thanks so much for that.

And one of the things the women I was talking to yesterday were telling me is, what's in particular why today on this first day of the Trump presidency? And they said they don't want the world to forget all the things that they thought were misogynist and wrong that happened during the campaign and they don't want to have an inauguration normalized that behavior. BERMAN: I'll tell people also, this is not normal. I mean, there are

usually protests that go around in inauguration but to have a giant march like this the day after is not something that I believe I see before.

And Eugene Scott -- we're back with our panel right now. Eugene, you know, the people that all around the city has been a really interesting place to be. Especially yesterday where you had the inauguration, you had the celebration, you had people very supportive of Donald Trump. You also -- you know, you had those outbreaks of violence. But you have a lot of people here to protest him today.

SCOTT: Very much so. I mean, I was looking around the city. And a lot of people are here for very different reasons. And you can't assume what page people are on until you talk to them quite a bit. And some people are very supported and have accepted the fact that Donald Trump is the next leader, the current leader of this country. But as Christine just mentioned, quite a few people are genuinely concerned that he is not going to prioritize issues related to women as much as they were hoping that Hillary Clinton would.

And I think the thing that's most interesting about this, it's not just a Democratic thing. Because we're seeing international protests. We are seeing literally more than 100 protests globally who are concerned that there were issues and the rights of women globally will not be as much of a play.

ROMANS: It's interesting to me that maybe some of these women would have been coming to march -- and men would have been coming to Washington anyway at the first election of a female president. Right?

SCOTT: Sure. Sure.

ROMANS: You know, so there's probably a little bit of disappointment in that as well. I want to play a little sound from a -- from the luncheon yesterday, I think, this was in the Capitol Statuary Hall. Right? The luncheon yesterday. And Donald Trump, the new president, he made a point of thanking the Clintons. Hillary Clinton, too, his former rival.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: Because I was very honored, very, very honored, when I heard that President Bill Clinton and Secretary Hillary Clinton was coming today, and I think it's appropriate to say and I'd like you to stand up. I'd like you to stand up.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ROMANS: That got a standing ovation, Greg Valliere. That got a standing ovation. I think some were surprised that he specifically pointed them out.

VALLIERE: It was a nice touch. I think it really was, you have to say. At the same, it was inauguration day. You are supposed to be ecumenical, you are supposed to do things like that. I think the bitterness will prevail. And we're going to see some of that today in the protests.

BERMAN: It was a nice message. It absolutely seemed genuine.

VALLIERE: Yes.

ROMANS: I think so, too.

BERMAN: I mean, Donald Trump really did appreciate the fact that Hillary Clinton was there.

VALLIERE: Yes.

BERMAN: It could have been delivered, that message, as part of the inaugural address. In front of the country, in front of the world.

ROMANS: It wasn't.

BERMAN: And it often is. We've seen that in past inaugural addresses. He chose not to do that for whatever reason. But it is interesting that he chose to do it in sort of a small private launch.

One thing people are discussing today, Josh. And I think it's just we're showing the picture is the difference in crowd size. I mean, Donald Trump leading up to this had been calling on people to come here and said that we're going to break records with the crowds.

[05:20:05] It doesn't look like they did. If you look at the difference between President Obama's first inauguration in 2009 --

ROMANS: Well, you did see that -- that line down the middle. So that's President Obama's in 2009 and now we're going to put a line down the middle and you're going to see -- that's what it looked it. So you could see -- along the mall, there were empty spaces this time around. And that's the comparison between the two.

ROGIN: It wasn't just along the mall. I was walking around the city all day yesterday. Compared to 2009 and 2013, by the way, the crowds were objectively smaller. OK. And inside those crowds, a lot -- there were just as many people who were against Trump as who were for them. OK. And that's not a judgment of Trump presidency. That's just the facts as you walked around. It's undeniable. You know, what does that mean? I think it means that in 2009, you know, Barack Obama was our candidate that people were voting for and in 2016 it was a lot of people who were sort of voting for Trump and holding their nose, people who were voting against Hillary Clinton.

There were a lot of people from outside the East Coast, who would have to travel a lot farther to get here. So maybe that was a burden. It was during the week. So if you're a Trump supporter and who has got an hourly job, you might not be able to make the trip. So I think there were a variety of reasons that the crowds were much, much smaller. But there is no doubt that the crowds were much, much smaller.

ROMANS: All right. Everybody, let's leave it there for right now. We got a lot to talk about. Including the Obama economy that now belongs to Donald Trump. It is now the Trump economy. We will show you some of the economic tail winds that the new president can feel very good about. That's next.

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[05:25:13] ROMANS: All right. The Obama economy is now the Trump economy. Here's a look at what President Trump inherits on his first full day in office. The latest reading on economic growth, 3.5 percent growth in the third quarter. Look at the jobless rate, it sits at 4.7 percent. The labor market is creating 180,000 net new jobs each month and home prices are up 5.1 percent over the past year.

Right after taking the oath of office, the administration updated the president's jobs plan on the White House Web site. Donald Trump, President Trump promises to create 25 million jobs. That would be more than any president in history.

Another big promise to bring manufacturing jobs back to U.S. shores. Now that's going to be tricky. The number of Americans working in factories plunged during the last two recessions. It has recovered somewhat under President Obama. Nearly 850,000 new manufacturing jobs have been added since the low in 2010, but we have been talking about automation and technology and productivity, and when you talk to CEOs, they say they have highly skilled manufacturing jobs that are open today.

But they don't have the skilled labor to fill it. That will be a policy challenge for this president who wants to bring jobs back. He's got to make sure the American work force can move to where those jobs are within the United States and also can be scaled up on those jobs.

BERMAN: I think the other thing that's interesting about the numbers that you had just there at the beginning is that those are signs of the economy right now is doing well, a low unemployment rate. Wages are rising. Housing prices are going up. Signs that things are good. Signs that things may be in contrast to the American carnage that the president talked about yesterday. It's not to say there aren't problems in some places. But it is to say that in some ways it is a strong economy.

All right. 26 minutes past the hour right now. Donald Trump is the president of the United States. He's waking up in the White House right now. Good morning, Mr. President. We expect you probably are watching. We're going to talk about what his message was to the country yesterday and what he plans to do today.

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

[05:30:27] TRUMP: We did it. We did it. And now the work begins.

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BERMAN: After the pomp, after the parties, now it is time to produce. Donald Trump, the president of the United States, waking up in the White House right now, getting down to business right now. This as thousands descend on Washington for a huge, huge protest rally.

Welcome back to EARLY START, everyone. I'm John Berman.

ROMANS: What a beautiful view of the capitol, folks. Look at the misty pre-dawn here in Washington, D.C. I'm Christine Romans. It is 30 minutes past the hour. We welcome all of our viewers here in the U.S. and around the world.

At this hour, Donald Trump is getting ready for his first full day as president and perhaps recovering a bit from a long inauguration day. You just saw that beautiful first dance, an inauguration day that started with the swearing in ceremony at the capitol, moved on to the parade down Pennsylvania Avenue, then to a series of inaugural balls, and the first official actions of his administration.

Those included signing an executive order to begin the dismantling of Obamacare among other things. CNN's Athena Jones has the latest now from our Washington bureau.

Good morning.

JONES: Good morning, Christine. Well, on the president's first full day at the White House, he's going to be attending a prayer service at the National Cathedral. But it's a relatively light schedule, compared to yesterday, a big momentous jam-packed day that ended with three inaugural balls the president and first lady attended.

And the first lady is getting a lot of attention, a lot of buzz around her outfit choices, starting with that powder blue Ralph Lauren, Jackie Kennedy-esque outfit that she wore during the day to the inauguration ceremony, where her husband, President Trump, delivered a big populist America first themed address, touching on a lot of the rhetoric we heard from him on the campaign trail.

Another way he was in line with campaign trail rhetoric is that he painted a pretty bleak picture of America. Let's listen to some of what he had to say.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities. Rusted out factories, scattered-like tombstones across the landscape. The crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

JONES: And that use of the word carnage was something that was noted. It's not a word you often hear in inaugural addresses. He also used words like robbed, stolen, trapped, very much, though, in line with a lot of what we heard from him on the campaign trail.

Now after the speech and after the parade, he did get straight to work as he promised. Before the inauguration, President-elect Trump said that he would take meaningful action on day one. Well, among those actions is signing an executive order dealing with Obamacare.

Now the order doesn't get rid of the law. Congress is already on dismantling that. But what it does do is it directs agencies to interpret regulations as loosely as allowed under the law to minimize the financial burden on individuals, on insurers, on health care providers and the like. That means that they can waive or defer or grant exemptions from or delay implementation of any provision or regulation of Obamacare that imposes a burden.

So there the president trying to make good on a promise to take action on Obamacare on day one. There was also action on Capitol Hill on two of the president's nominees to the Cabinet. His first two nominees confirmed by big votes in the Senate, huge majorities. That's retired Marine General James Mattis to head up the Defense Department and retired Marine General John Kelly who will leave the Department of Homeland Security. So lot of action yesterday.

Back to you, guys.

ROMANS: I would say so. All right. Thanks so much for that, Athena.

You we heard Athena talk about that powder blue Ralph Lauren dress. Donald Trump's wife Melania and his daughter Ivanka drawing a lot of attention, admiring attention really, for their fashion choices on inauguration day.

BERMAN: The best kind of attention.

ROMANS: John Berman just can't stop talking about it.

BERMAN: Admiring attention is my favorite.

ROMANS: Last night, Melania Trump wore this jaw-dropping white gown. She worked on the dress herself with Herve Pierre. He's the former creative director of Carolina Herrera.

BERMAN: It's an architectural design I am told.

ROMANS: The swoop, it means a little bit -- it's awesome.

BERMAN: It's structure.

ROMANS: There you go. Earlier in the day, she channeled Jackie Kennedy at the inaugural ceremony with the sky blue Ralph Lauren cashmere jacket and turtleneck dress.

[05:35:04] Ivanka Trump, the 35-year-old daughter of the president -- one of the daughters, stunned at last night's Liberty Ball in this gold Carolina Herrera ball gown. You can see the whole family there. Jeweled sleeves.

BERMAN: What did you say it was bedazzled or we're not seeing it right now?

ROMANS: There you go on the right. It looks sparkled. Yes, the whites -- the sleeves were bejeweled.

BERMAN: Is it bejeweled or bedazzled? Or can it be both?

ROMANS: Well, bedazzled is like when you have a jean jacket.

BERMAN: OK. OK. It's a fair point.

ROMANS: I don't think you bedazzle a Carolina Herrera and Oscar De La Renta gown. For the swearing in ceremony she chose a white pantsuit by Oscar De La Renta. They got pretty high marks. Even her green outfit that she wore on the way got a lot of attention. She had this really cool green coat. I'm sure you noticed it. It was really nice. I like it.

BERMAN: I wore one outfit for most of the day yesterday.

ROMANS: We like it when you change your outfit at least once a day.

BERMAN: Apparently it's a thing. Changing outfits multiple times.

ROMANS: You would not even notice if you wear the same suit every day.

BERMAN: Yes. Everyone looked great.

ROMANS: Yes, they did.

BERMAN: Everyone looked great. And you know --

ROMANS: I think -- let's bring our panel back, and I think it painted a picture of the new team in town. A little bit of New York style. Right. I mean, and you know, I heard the word (INAUDIBLE) a couple of times yesterday. I think it's a little early to be -- yes, to be saying that the Jackie Kennedy-esque blue dress is going to somehow usher in like a period of maybe new fashion in Washington. But, you know, Michelle Obama was very -- had high marks, Eugene, for her fashion. She was sort of the fashion of the people. J. Crew, remember?

SCOTT: Yes. Very much so. It's very interesting, I mean, Michelle Obama yesterday I think wore Jason Wu, who is an American designer that she put on the market --

BERMAN: She's worn that before.

SCOTT: Yes. You've been paying attention. Keep it up. Yes. And so the reality is that this is good for business. And what Donald Trump has consistently said is that he will be good for business. And it's looking like all business. Right. Design, trade, development. We'll see.

BERMAN: You gave me good segue, though.

SCOTT: Great. Try.

BERMAN: Because Donald Trump claims he will be good for business as usual. Did you see what I did there?

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ROMANS: Very well. You have a future in broadcasting.

BERMAN: Because as he was standing behind us on the capitol steps, after thanking the former presidents of the United States, acknowledging, you know, the Washington leadership around him, he proceed to trash them directly. More than symbolically, saying that they have been enriching themselves at the expense of the American people. Listen to what the president said yesterday.

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TRUMP: Washington flourished but the people did not share in its wealth. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs. And while they celebrated in our nation's capitol, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BERMAN: I have to believe, Josh, that that resonated with a lot of people. People love to hate politicians. They love to hate Washington. But Donald Trump didn't draw a distinction. The president didn't draw distinctions between Republicans and Democrats.

ROGIN: Right.

BERMAN: And Republicans have controlled Congress now.

ROGIN: Right. Well, that's exactly right. I mean, first of all, we should say that there is a bit of truth to what he said. OK. There is corruption in Washington. The sort of the way the town does business has sort of become disconnected from the real needs and aspirations of American people around the country. That's a part of why he got elected.

ROMANS: Yes.

ROGIN: Given that, if he wants to now as president implement that agenda, it's kind of weird, but he needs Washington to do it. He needs Republicans. He even needs Democrats sometimes. He definitely needs the people in all of these bureaucracies.

ROMANS: Yes.

ROGIN: Around town that are working for him but are career people who have lived in Washington their whole lives, who care about America. Who care about national security and the economy and jobs. To be on his team. That's the only way he is going to get all of this stuff done. And he keeps insulting those people. And, you know, those are the people that I talked to, people on the sort of State Department, Defense Department and Intelligence Community.

BERMAN: Those have been enriching themselves? ROGIN: No. Those are the people who are Washington, you know,

insiders that he is railing against, that he is trying to replace with Washington outsiders. And eventually he's going to have to square that circle. He's going to have to figure out who wants to -- if he wants Washington's help to do what he wants to do or if he wants to fight us all the time.

ROMANS: Well, there is a state of business as well. I mean, I was talking to Penny Pritzker, this outgoing Commerce secretary, and she said that she had advised Wilbur Ross who we're assuming is going to get that position, will be confirmed for that position at the Commerce Department. She said look, I'm an outsider like you. I came in, look, you know, with private sector experience. But you're going to need people who know how Washington works or you're not going to get anything done.

VALLIERE: But in listening to that speech, don't think I'm crazy, I think Bernie Sanders could have delivered most of that speech. Very anti-establishment, very much anti-free trade, wants to spend a lot more money on infrastructure. I think this was such a populist speech that certain Democrats could have made it.

BERMAN: But, and I agree that I'm sure some of the message to some of the people who have been left behind the target may have been similar. But the way it was delivered, I kept on thinking about the ad from Bernie Sanders playing the Paul Simon music, I've gone to look for America, which is -- you know, which is a hopeful song.

VALLIERE: Right. Yes.

BERMAN: American carnage, you couldn't set -- you know, the I've got to look for America song to lyrics about American carnage.

[05:40:04] VALLIERE: Bernie Sanders won the Michigan primary against Hillary. And I thought that sent a really important message. We should have paid more attention to that victory he had by emphasizing how things are not good. So I think there is a connection of populist, how ironic the Republicans now have the mantle of the populist party.

ROMANS: But let's talk a little bit about the speech overall and the fact that conservatives, what was in there for conservative? That wasn't a conservative speech. That wasn't a Republican speech.

SCOTT: There were some national security stuff.

ROMANS: OK.

SCOTT: It wasn't a lot of limited government stuff. But there was quite a bit -- what I would have thought was pessimism and I don't think conservatives are, and they're very interested in that. I think what people overall would like to see is what direction Donald Trump will take this country in that will benefit everyone. Not just people in those states that backed him. And there wasn't a lot of that.

ROMANS: But he's on the record saying I will never let you down. And that is a really big --

BERMAN: It's a high bar.

ROMANS: That's a high bar. He will never let you down. And we're going to take that literally seriously -- seriously and literally.

BERMAN: In every which way.

ROMANS: All right. Even as Trump was taking the oath, a big protest unfolded around Washington. And now thousands, maybe tens of thousands are getting ready to descend on the capitol. They are going to be demonstrating. We're live on a bus heading to D.C. next.

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ROMANS: Welcome back. Today, one day after the Trump inauguration.

[05:45:03] Hundreds of thousands of people are expected to take part in the Women's March on Washington. Marches and protests also planned today in cities across the country and around the world. Want to bring back our panel. Josh Rogin, Eugene Scott, Greg Valliere. I bet some of these women and men yesterday who were already sort of gathering for this march --

BERMAN: Because it's all around the city. Let's be clear.

ROMANS: Right.

BERMAN: You don't have to look hard for them.

ROMANS: Yes. Right here, some -- you know, matching T-shirts, matching hats. And so that's something that's going to get underway here later today. You know, there was a moment yesterday when Donald Trump was trying to be inclusive I think, talking about a new national pride. A lot has been made about his particular moment in his speech. Listen.

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TRUMP: A new national pride will stir our souls, lift our sights and heal our divisions. It's time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget. That whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots.

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ROMANS: Josh, was that the inclusion that so many people said we need yesterday?

ROGIN: Yes. Yes.

ROMANS: The bridging the divide?

ROGIN: Let's -- first of all let's hope it doesn't come to that. All right. That we don't actually have to bleed to figure out that we're all the same. I mean, this is a very distinct message of unity. It's a nationalistic one. It means we can all unify if you agree with me.

SCOTT: Right.

ROGIN: Right. Here's what I'm going to do. I have been elected president. I have all these people behind me. If you are on board, then great, let's unify. OK. That's not the same thing as reaching out, compromising, acknowledging the real concerns of real Americans who don't agree with the president. It's not the same as mentioning your opponent, which he could have done in the speech, it's not the same as mentioning the Democrats or, you know, Muslims, refugees, Hispanics, women, all the other people he offended.

So it's something of an olive branch. It's a really Trump specific one and that's going to leave a lot of people unsatisfied.

BERMAN: I don't think there's any question it was a remarkable speech and that is unlike ones we have seen before.

ROMANS: Agreed.

ROMANS: I don't think there's any doubt it was an effective speech in terms of delivering the message that he wanted to send because it was crystal clear what message he wanted to send.

Greg, the question is or a question is, because you could accept both of those things, is, did this inaugural address win support, any additional support for Donald Trump or bring anyone closer to his line of thinking?

VALLIERE: Maybe not. I think his base had to be thrilled. It was red meat for the base. And I think his base will never desert him. But I don't think he widened the support.

One other quick point I'd make, I think the Democrats run a risk of looking too obstructionists and too negative during all of these. All the Democrats who stayed away. Schumer has got to be careful. He's going to drag his feet on all the Cabinet nominees. But there is a fine line here between being opponents and being strictly obstructionists. And the public would get that.

BERMAN: Can I ask one question? Because we have Josh Rogin here who delves in the intel community, right? Because one thing that the Democrats did obstruct is the confirmation of Mike Pompeo to be CIA director, which was going to happen yesterday. Maybe happens today. Now it won't happen until Monday.

ROGIN: Right. Pompeo will get in eventually. It's a matter of negotiations, concessions. Rex Tillerson will get in. It's very hard to keep national security officials out of these jobs. The real struggle is really behind the scenes. In all of these agencies, as the Trump administration says what they call beachhead teams, to go take over all of these agencies. You've got all these people that are still there. The politicals are gone. There are real national security issues at play. Right? So everyone

on Capitol Hill realizes you can't play games and keep these very senior sensitive national security positions vacant for too long because you're just inviting a disaster. So the -- although it will get worked out the question is, what happens when the Trump people and the other national security people who don't like Trump are sitting in the same room and now they've got to deal with a crisis and if history is any guide, there will be a crisis pretty soon?

ROMANS: We think his money team is probably going to get in. You know, we had hearings this week for Wilbur Ross and Steve Mnuchin. But do you think that the Democrats, Eugene, are going to continue to kind of try to slow this process down?

SCOTT: Absolutely. In part because they're in the rebuilding phase. And they're trying to convince the American people that they didn't completely lose. And that they, too, have a vision for America that they think will lift people up who were more attracted to Donald Trump's speech. But without rejecting the people who felt very much offended by Donald Trump and were looking now at who is going to be the next leader of the Democratic Party.

ROMANS: Yes.

SCOTT: And in what direction are they going to take it and will it be winning?

BERMAN: The challenge for them is to show why they slowed things down when they do it. And I was bringing up Mike Pompeo because I'm not quite sure I understand what they win by delaying that three days. I mean, they want more information and more questions answered from Rex Tillerson. They want more financial information from the likes of Steve Mnuchin and whatnot. I understand that. But Mike Pompeo just seems like they were trying to prove that they can muck things up, Greg.

VALLIERE: It's going to be a show trial for some of these nominees. I agree with Josh, I think just about every nominee will make it. The only one I might no doubt is Pozner at Labor.

[05:50:03] I think he's starting to realize this may not be quite what he signed up for. But I think all the other ones will make it. But if the Democrats make this a show trial, it could be a blessing and a curse for them.

ROMANS: To explain the labor situation, he is the former CEO at Carl's Jr. and Hardee's. His company has had, you know, labor violations levied against it, and there are workers there, who've been -- you know, unions and progressives who have been very vocal, really hammering him the last week or so, saying that this is somebody who should not be in charge of protecting workers and workers rights in the United States. He's someone who doesn't believe in a higher -- in a $50 minimum wage. He believes in getting profits -- extracting profits from workers.

So that's the image there. But, you know, I am told that the Trump team wants to fight that out. They want to come out fighting, they want him.

VALLIERE: But does he --

BERMAN: He -- and John King, our John King was reporting from Republicans and some insider business people that he just didn't like the beating.

ROMANS: Right.

BERMAN: He was taking in the public from some of these groups or just politicians.

VALLIERE: Right.

BERMAN: A lot of times if you are business people, remember, usually we're used to politicians who are comfortable in the rough and tumble. Sometimes when you're at the top of that business pyramid you're not used --

VALLIERE: Yes.

BERMAN: To people going after you like that.

SCOTT: And they're going to keep going after them. I think one of the reasons is perhaps, maybe, just my idea, that they want to move Pompeo to Monday, is so that people could tune in and see this because it could have gotten lost in everything that was happening yesterday with the inauguration.

ROGIN: Yes. I mean, the problem is not with Pompeo. It's with the president's attitude towards the intelligence community.

VALLIERE: The intelligence. Yes.

ROMANS: Right.

ROGIN: And with the Republican leadership's willingness or unwillingness to pursue the investigation into Russian hacking of the election.

BERMAN: All right. We're going to take a -- I want to go to if we can, just through the Lincoln Tunnel right now. I believe we're in New Jersey on a bus with CNN's Brynn Gingras who's on a bus with people coming to Washington right now to be part of this women's march today.

Brynn, what are they saying?

GINGRAS: Yes, John, you're absolutely right. We already went through the Lincoln Tunnel. We are in Jersey heading south to D.C. We've got about 55 people on this bus where I am. And then there's one in front of us with another 55 people. And this is just one group, I got to tell you. There were buses lined up all around Union Square in New York City with women, with men, with children, getting ready to board and head to D.C. A lot of excitement about what's about to happen later today. I want

to bring in Caroline Ortiz, she is here in her long horn orange shirt here. You are originally from south Texas. But you live in New York City. And what struck me about you is you --

ROMANS: You know, it's the light at the end of the tunnel. It's New Jersey. They're in New Jersey right now on the tunnel. But we lost that -- we lost that --

BERMAN: Blame it on the turnpike.

ROMANS: I know. Blame it on the turnpike. Look, we'll try to get back to her in a minute. But, you know, we're expecting -- I was seeing 200,000.

BERMAN: Right.

ROMANS: I think we have no idea how many people are going to show up today in the capitol -- in the nation's capitol. But we'll be watching that very, very closely.

All right. One of Donald Trump's first moves as president could be making buying a home more expensive. We're going to tell you Obama policy he's rolling back. That's next.

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[05:56:15] ROMANS: One of President Trump's first moves in office is suspending a cut to the Federal Housing Administration's mortgage insurance premium. The Obama administration announced that reduction last week. It would have lowered mortgage insurance rates by 18.5 percent, saving the average homeowner about 500 bucks a year. These are people who get FHA backed loans. They're putting a 3 percent to 5 percent down. They have to get this insurance to cover. This would have made it easier for them to buy a home less expensive. The Obama administration said the insurance pool was well funded so it was passing gains down to borrowers.

Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer immediately ripped Trump's move here to roll back those rate cuts. He says it's going to make it harder for Americans of modest means to own a home. Why would the incoming administration take those savings away? Could be they disagreed that the program is well funded. They want to keep the additional government revenue. Housing secretary pick Ben Carson told lawmakers in his confirmation hearing he would closely examine the policy. It could be, you guys, just because they are trying to undo all of the last-minute things the Obama administration did.

BERMAN: Guys, we got about a minute left before we turn it over. I want to get closing thoughts to you on what we saw yesterday and what we'll see today -- Josh Rogin.

ROGIN: Donald Trump publicly and proudly declared war on Washington. The town in which he lives and the government that he now runs. OK. Washington has a way of fighting back and today begins that battle and it can go either way. BERMAN: He declared war. Will he engage in war? That's my question.

Eugene Scott.

SCOTT: More emphasis on America first. And we'll hopefully get some answers soon about whether or not America first means America only and how that will affect other economies.

ROMANS: Greg?

VALLIERE: Well, for the markets, I think the economy continues to look good. Labor market continues to tighten. The main point I would make is that on every issue you can think of, Cabinet nominees, Obamacare, tax reform, Trump has the votes.

ROMANS: He has to the votes. Quickly, does he -- does making these companies or asking these companies to keep jobs here, is that working? Do people think that that is real change?

VALLIERE: I think it's good PR. Absolutely.

BERMAN: I think there's nothing wrong. Who can argue when a chief executive will call a company and say keep jobs here.

ROMANS: Yes. Yes.

BERMAN: If you can.

ROMANS: No president has tried to do it before. He's the first ever to try to say, hey, be American, hire American.

All right, guys. That's it for Washington. For me, I'm Christine Romans. Thanks for joining us today.

BERMAN: And I'm John Berman. Thank you all for being here for this very special EARLY START. "NEW DAY" picks up right now.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This American carnage stops right now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president of the United States.

TRUMP: It's going to be only America first.

SEN. CHARLES SCHUMER (D), MINORITY LEADER: It took only an hour for his actions to ring hollow.

TRUMP: I will fight for you and I will never let you down.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN ANCHOR: Tens of thousands of people are getting ready to descend on the capitol.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The women's march is a gesture of our commitment.

TRUMP: We are transferring power back to you, the people. Together, we will make America great again.

ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.

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CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: All right. We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world. This is your NEW DAY. It's Saturday, January 21st, 6:00 here in Washington. And boy, are things different now.

Up first, Donald Trump begins his presidency, vowing to end what he called American carnage. A brooding address with heavy nationalist and populist tones. Did the new commander-in-chief's words do anything to help heal a nation still divided by the ugliest election in decades.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: President Trump already swinging into action, signing his first executive order and getting two Cabinet picks confirmed. Meanwhile, thousands of people, maybe hundreds of thousands expected to pack the National Mall here in Washington for a march demanding equal rights for women.

We have it all covered for you so let's begin with CNN's Athena Jones. She's live at the White House -- Athena.