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PRIMETIME JUSTICE WITH ASHLEIGH BANFIELD

Woman Steals $10 Million From Employer/Man Kills Wife for Love of Stripper/Police Bodycam Shows Violent Arrest of Woman and Daughter. Aired 8-9p ET

Aired January 26, 2017 - 20:00   ET

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ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HOST (voice-over): Lifestyles of the rich and famous-- homes, furs, boats, cars how did a cashier afford all of these things?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The largest embezzlement case in the history of the western district.

BANFIELD: The cops say she bilked nearly $10 million from work!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The sentence can be very, very severe.

BANFIELD: How did she do it? And what happens to all that booty?

A faker posing as a fed to woo a young stripper now accused of killing his much older wife. Cops say he was crazy in love. But his 5-year-old girl

may have just lost both parents.

A brand-new angle? A brand-new problem. A cop`s bodycam shows the violent arrest of a mom and her daughter should never have happened.

WILLIAM MARTIN, POLICE OFFICER: You`re going to jail!

BANFIELD: So why on earth did he haul them in? And what happens to that cop now?

JACQUELINE CRAIG, MOTHER: You`re on live!

BANFIELD: An Indiana dad says he can`t remember a thing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Multiple victims and a suspect who had cut himself up.

BANFIELD: So how`d his wife end up with a bullet to the back and his twin daughters end up savagely attacked?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot of blood in the residence.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re going to try to swing you out of this car, OK?

BANFIELD: Bravery in the nick of time, two cops pull a driver from a burning wreck right before disaster strikes!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) had his tailpipe, rolled over the trunk.

BANFIELD: And a wild ride for a speeding biker. But what happened next, no one could see coming.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my God! (INAUDIBLE) (EXPLETIVE DELETED)

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BANFIELD: Hello, and welcome to PRIMETIME JUSTICE. I`m Ashleigh Banfield.

When you hear of someone who owns a vacation home, you typically think rich. When you hear someone who owns two vacation homes, you might think

filthy rich. But when you hear about the luxury lifestyle trinkets that Cynthia Mills amassed, you`re going to be left mouth open, eyes blinking.

And when you hear she amassed all of her things while working as a cashier, you may not be able to speak at all.

And if you think her lavish assets should have raised some eyebrows, they did. And when the feds closed in, they said she stole that number -- count

the zeros, folks. It`s $9 million from the place she worked, $9 million over 16 years. So

What do you suppose Cynthia Mills bought with all those millions? Lucky for us, the feds gave us the list. And for this, you`re going to need to

brace yourself -- several yachts, including a whopping 47-foot cruiser, a 32-footer, and then this 16-foot runabout -- which, by the way, rich folks

call them tenders -- eight cars, including three expensive Mercedes, a Corvette, a bunch of motorcycles, including some Harleys, a snowmobile, a

tractor, and this list -- it gets long.

And then there were the handbags, and if none -- none of this has bothered you yet, buckle up. She had a penchant for Louis Vuitton. Here`s just the

first list, OK? But there were more. There`s list number two and there`s list number three and there`s is list number four. And oh, my God, 41

Louis Vuitton handbags! We`re not even talking, like, duffel or gym bags or luggage, just the purses, folks. And if you`re wondering, they average

about $1,500 a bag, but Louis Vuitton handbags can go as high as $55,000 per bag.

Let me take you to her fur coats now because this is yet another list. She like to wear dead animals. She liked lots of them. She had 19 fur coats,

bunch of minks, raccoon, lynx, red fox, chinchilla. So you could say these guys are probably victims, too. And I don`t even have the time in this

show to list out the dozens upon dozens of expensive pieces of jewelry.

According to the court documents, Cynthia Mills, a cashier, allegedly was cashing company checks and wiring the money to accounts in her name. We

all kind of know you`re not supposed to do that. So a lot of questions, right?

Phillip Dilucente is the attorney for Cynthia Mills, and he joins me live from Pittsburgh. Phillip, thank you for being with me. I literally could

not believe...

PHILLIP DILUCENTE, ATTORNEY FOR CYNTHIA MILLS: Hey, good evening, Ashleigh.

BANFIELD: ... my eyes when I saw that list! Why did she do this?

DILUCENTE: Well, you know, I can`t get into tonight why this situation occurred. But I can tell you there is a change of plea hearing in March,

March 15th, to be exact, and I think at that time, the U.S. attorney will lay out the specifics of what has been charged.

[20:05:05]Now, as you know, an information was filed instead of an indictment in this situation, and that involved allegations of money

laundering, tax evasion, mail fraud. And so a lot of it was cited in the information that was filed. But I can tell you...

BANFIELD: I read it. I read it. I read it, Phillip, and I`ll tell you I was so incredibly blown away that a cashier would have all of these amazing

things over the course of a 16-year career with this company and think that no one would notice and there wouldn`t be a lot of questions asked.

And so I guess the question I have for you is, you said she`s got a plea hearing coming up. She`s facing 95 years and $12.9 million in restitution

and also giving back all the booty. And I`m just wondering what on earth might she consider pleading to?

DILUCENTE: Well, I can tell you this at this juncture. She has relinquished all of the assets that had particularly been delineated in the

information. She`s cooperated with the authorities completely, and her cooperation will go as far and as much as the United States attorney`s

office wants, as well as the company.

Now, as far as what she will be looking at and things along that line, I can`t comment at this juncture. I certainly can comment at a later time.

But as we sit here today the important point to all of this is that she actually is cooperating with the government.

BANFIELD: It`s probably a really good idea that she`s cooperating with the government, given how serious this set of crimes is and given how serious

the list of assets and evidence is.

How did this all come crashing down? What happened? What was the tipping point?

DILUCENTE: Well, you know, any of these situations can be different. And I apologize that I`m probably not answering all the questions that you

would like as best as you would want them. But I can tell you that since this has transpired, she`s attempting to right the situation. And the way

you go about that is doing the things that she did. And that`s a big step with the relinquishment of any of the interests that she may have.

BANFIELD: Can she actually pay back 16 years` worth of bilking? I mean, that`s a lot of stuff that we listed out, and I`m not sure that that`s all

of it and I`m not sure that all the non-material stuff we know about, like trips or help, or you know, tips or fancy dinners or -- all the things that

you can`t actually hold in your hand. So about that restitution and relinquishing, can she actually make good on this?

DILUCENTE: Well, you know, it`s one of these situations that is going to continue to develop. All I can tell you at this point is unlike a lot of

other persons that are placed in certain situations, this is someone that is being extremely proactive. And that`s important when you have such

serious charges as you know, as many charge.

BANFIELD: Has she apologized to her employer?

DILUCENTE: And we`re talking...

BANFIELD: Has she spoken to her employer?

DILUCENTE: Well, I can tell you this, Ashleigh, there is a time and place for everything. And I am certain that at a certain place in time, she will

have the opportunity to not only address the court but also the company. So I can tell you this. That day will be coming sooner than later. And I

think at that juncture, it would be best to speak of it at that time.

BANFIELD: I want to. I do want to. And I totally get it Phillip. You are in a position I wouldn`t want to be in. You can`t answer the questions

because you`re not even at the plea yet. And this is serious, 95 years she could face, $12.9 million on top of all those fancy goods. Love to have

you back when this all gets settled. Thank you, Phillip.

DILUCENTE: You`re welcome. Have a good evening. Thank you.

BANFIELD: Joining me now, former prosecutor Alan Ripka, defense attorney Misty Marris and defense attorney and CNN legal analyst and HLN legal

analyst Joey Jackson.

Well, panel, that was quite a list of stuff that I showed you. But I kept coming back to the whole issue of restitution. This is a 16-year period

that`s alleged. Can you possibly make the restitution to a company with -- I mean, I know that was a lot of fancy stuff, but not necessarily $10

million worth of stuff.

JOEY JACKSON, CNN/HLN LEGAL ANALYST: With great difficulty. So here`s how it works. First of all, that which is done in darkness ends up coming out

in the light. And so 16 years -- you know what? Justice moves, but it moves slowly.

Now, here`s the point with the attorney who -- you know, look, he`s doing all he can for his client. But cooperation with the government is not a

defense. Saying I`m sorry is not a defense. Giving back everything that you stole is not a defense.

And so certainly, the government -- you know, you have forfeiture statutes, and everything, whether she wanted to give it back or not, is going to be

taken by the government. But the issue becomes, could she divulge it all? Could she give it all? And do we really know the extent to which she got

so many things. You have a list. There`s also a money list that you probably don`t have.

[20:10:10]BANFIELD: Ten seconds here. Ten seconds here. But Misty, 95 years total if everything`s consecutive. With a plea, what do you think?

MISTY MARRIS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes, listen, I don`t think she`s going to be seeing zero jail time.

BANFIELD: Right.

MARRIS: I think she`s going to see a couple years. But Joey said, listen, this cooperation aspect -- she has no choice! This is her Hail Mary.

BANFIELD: Yes.

MARRIS: This is cooperation or 95.

BANFIELD: OK, Cynthia Mills, I don`t know if you`re listening, but good luck.

You know that guy who has been in court a couple of times, throwing the F- bomb at the judge and demanding to represent himself, the same man who`s accused of killing his pregnant ex-girlfriend and an Orlando police

officer? I would love your opinion here. Do you think that guy, Markeith Loyd, is competent enough to represent himself at trial?

Just for your memory here, we`ve compiled some of the antics from the first three appearances in only a week.

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MARKEITH LOYD, CHARGED WITH MURDER: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) (INAUDIBLE) Ain`t no Markeith Loyd. Who are you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Aggravated assault...

LOYD: The lady in the black dress, may I have your name please? What? I`m here for what? Resisting arrest? (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

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BANFIELD: OK, that wasn`t even all of it. But today, Markeith Loyd came back into court, and guess what? His demeanor was a heck of a lot more

reserved. He went before a judge to see if he could act as his own attorney in two murder cases he`s facing. He`s charged with killing the

Orlando police lieutenant Debra Clayton and also, as I mentioned, his pregnant ex-girlfriend, Sade Dixon.

And after talking to Loyd for several minutes, Judge Frederick Loughton (ph) his decision.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Loyd, do you intend on hiring an attorney to represent you, or is it your plan to represent yourself?

LOYD: I don`t know. Since I`ve been beaten, they didn`t let me talk to nobody. I haven`t talked to my family, didn`t have a phone call. I only

took one shower. I didn`t get (EXPLETIVE DELETED). They beat me in my eye with a pistol, with a gun, and they knocked my eyeball out. I`m losing my

eye. I can`t open my mouth and eat. I don`t know what`s going on, sir.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His behavior today is appropriate to the proceedings. He has indicated that he is upset about his eye and his physical condition.

He appears to understand what`s happening in court today, but has decided just to stop participating with the court and the proceedings. For the

moment -- but for only this moment -- I find that Mr. Loyd is competent to make the decision to waive counsel.

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BANFIELD: Hear that? For the moment, this moment. All right, so he said OK. The judge did add, though, that this could change, he could change his

mind as Mr. Loyd continues to go through this process.

The mother of a 5-year-old girl murdered just feet away from her sleeping daughter and why prosecutors say the husband is the one who pulled the

trigger. But those forensics just don`t seem to match up with his story. Tell you all about it in a moment.

And police officers risk their lives every day to protect us, but nothing could prepare them for this.

I don`t know. Since I`ve been beaten, they didn`t let me talk to nobody. I haven`t talked to my family, didn`t have a phone call. I only took one

shower. I didn`t get (EXPLETIVE DELETED). They beat me in my eye with a pistol, a gun, and they knocked my eyeball out. I`m losing my eye. I

can`t open my mouth and eat. I don`t know what`s going on, sir.

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[20:17:12]BANFIELD: The promise of living happily ever after can cause some people to do some pretty weird things, bad things throw in an unhappy

marriage, a gun, and a much younger stripper girlfriend, and prosecutors in Oklahoma say you got the recipe for murder.

Right now, Kinney Glasson is on trial, accused of killing his wife, Erin. Erin was shot and killed in November of 2014. And neither the prosecutor

nor the defense disputes that Kinney Glasson pulled the trigger, but it is the why that has him on trial.

Mr. Glasson told police that the gun just went off during a fight with an intruder in the family`s bedroom while Erin was sleeping next to him, slept

through the whole thing, apparently. The evidence just did not seem to match up with his story, though, and when he told the officers that he was

having an affair, the alarm bells went off.

And now prosecutors are trying to prove that Kinney Glasson murdered his wife so that he could be with Riva Ann Smith (ph), the stripper. They`ve

got some pretty strong evidence against him, too, like a recorded phone conversation where he tells her, I love you, and I know I can be the man to

make you happy. And to make the details surrounding the death of Erin Glasson even more disturbing, the Glassons` 5-year-old daughter was home at

the time that her mom was shot to death.

Scott Mitchell is the host of "Mitchell Talks." He joins me live from Oklahoma City. Scott, why was the intruder story so implausible?

SCOTT MITCHELL, "MITCHELL TALKS" (via telephone): Well, good evening, Ashleigh. It just didn`t match up. I mean, the story doesn`t match up

with the ballistics. It doesn`t match up with the direction that the shot came from. And then we find out that he sent these messages to the

girlfriend, who ironically, was in a jail cell 80 miles away from Oklahoma City when they were recording those messages. It just -- the story just

doesn`t add up in any shape or form.

BANFIELD: So there`s some weird stuff that we looked at and kind of compiled a list of all the inconsistencies of what he said and how it

happened and the things that were going on at the time of this.

And the idea that his wife would be sleeping through an intruder coming and having this wrestling match with him on the other side of the bed seems

strange. The trajectory of the bullets, as you, mentioned, just not right. The K-9 officers, those dogs, could not smell any evidence of an intruder.

There was no forced entry that they could detect in this home. Nothing was taken, and that`s always a red flag, nothing stolen. And then the issue of

Kinney Glasson not being able to give any kind of description of any kind of suspect.

Where is Kinney Glasson? Is he -- has he got bail? Is he literally going from the jail to the courtroom every day?

MITCHELL: Yes, he`s in the custody of the Oklahoma County sheriff`s department, and that`s where the trial`s being held, is in the Oklahoma

County jail. And that`s where he`s at, and he`s on trial for first degree murder. And as you said, Ashleigh, it just doesn`t add up. And the story

is just -- it`s just ludicrous.

[20:20:15]BANFIELD: It certainly is. It`s distressing about that 5-year- old, as well.

Alan Ripka, real quickly, there -- the whole business about the stripper -- I know a lot of people make, you know, big hullabaloos about sexy stories

like that, and they sure do provide motive. But you don`t have to have any motive for a jury to come to a guilty decision. You don`t even need the

picture of this pretty lady.

ALAN RIPKA, FMR. PROSECUTOR: That`s right. There is no law or any indication that you need to prove motive because you don`t always know

what`s going on in someone`s head. However, motives help juries understand why somebody would go to such an extent to kill someone else, especially

the mother of their child.

BANFIELD: And here`s the other thing. With that stripper, apparently, Joey, he was using an FBI badge and telling her he was an FBI agent and...

JACKSON: When he worked at a hardware store.

BANFIELD: Right. It was just a load of crap (ph). So he`s a proven liar. And isn`t that very effective? A motive/shmotive, but when he was lying to

that stripper trying to reel her in, doesn`t that help them get to that point?

JACKSON: It does significantly, Ashleigh because now what they`re going to do is the -- first of all, they`re parsing his story. Nothing about the

story makes sense, which in itself isn`t evidence, but it`s circumstantial. And when you pick a jury, what do you always say to them? Use your common

sense. Use your good judgment.

So along with the motive, along with his flimsy story and along with the fact that nothing makes sense, they`re going to say, You know what?

Including the trajectory of those bullets and she`s sleeping, convicted.

BANFIELD: I got one more. Misty, this one`s for you. Apparently, he told the stripper that he had plans for the future and that he was divorcing his

wife, and there`s no record of any divorce filings anywhere.

MARRIS: Yes, this speaks to his credibility again, and that`s very effective with a jury. If you can show somebody to be a liar, that goes a

long way. If this guy goes on the stand. he will be ripped to shreds.

BANFIELD: Yes. I would guess the defense attorney would say, Stay put. You`re not going to help the matter.

The controversial arrest of a family were captured on a cell phone video. But then something else happened. A brand-new video came out from a whole

different angle. And want you to look at the brand-new view because it could really, really affect this case.

Plus, a biker hangs on for dear life after he smashes into the back of a car and ends up clinging to the trunk while the bike is long gone.

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[20:26:10]BANFIELD: Just last month, we showed you cell phone video of the arrest of Jacqueline Craig and her 15-year-old daughter after she had

called the police claiming that her neighbor had choked her 7-year-old son. So there`s the daughter in the pink right there, and that`s the mom on the

right-hand side in the white. And remember, some people thought it looked as though the teen acted in a threatening manner towards the officer, who

responded -- and oh, my God, things got ugly, ugly.

But guess what? We have another angle. It`s the officer`s bodycam video. It`s just been released, and it just might change your mind about the

actions during that arrest.

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JACQUELINE CRAIG, MOTHER: My son is 7 years old. You don`t have the right to grab him, choke him behind no paper that he threw. What you should have

done, because we have been living here for years, so you know that my house has a door in between yours. You could have came to me. Don`t put your

hands on my son.

WILLIAM MARTIN, POLICE OFFICER: Well, why don`t you teach your son not to litter?

CRAIG: I didn`t -- you can`t prove to me that my son littered. But it doesn`t matter if he did or didn`t, he doesn`t give him the right to puts

hands on him.

MARTIN: Why not?

CRAIG: Because he don`t! He don`t! What do you mean?

MARTIN: I`m just asking.

CRAIG: Because he don`t. He don`t. He`s not his parent. He`s not his parent. (INAUDIBLE)

MARTIN: Why are you yelling at me?

CRAIG: Because why would you ask me why don`t I teach him? You don`t know what I teach him. (INAUDIBLE) it don`t mean that they go by your rules

when they`re not...

MARTIN: Why are you yelling at me?

CRAIG: Because you just pissed me off telling me what I teach my kids and what I don`t!

MARTIN: If you keep yelling at me, you`re going to piss me off. I`m going to take you to jail.

CRAIG: OK (INAUDIBLE)

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: You`re under arrest.

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: Get on the ground now! Get on the ground! You are resisting arrest! You`re going to jail!

CRAIG: (INAUDIBLE)

MARTIN: Get on the ground now! On the ground now! (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

CRAIG: Don`t move! Don`t move! You`re on live! Everything you just did is on live! I promise you that.

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: Hands behind your back.

CRAIG: You`re on live! You`re on live. (INAUDIBLE)

MARTIN: Get on the ground! (INAUDIBLE) interfere, you`re going to jail, too! (EXPLETIVE DELETED)

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: Get up! Get up!

(CROSSTALK)

MARTIN: Get up! Get up! Get up! Get up! You`re going to go to jail, too. Come on. Come on.

(CROSSTALK)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: May I remind you that that girl in the pink was just 15 years old. Certainly looks as though the police department`s perspective on all

of this has changed, as well, because they`ve dropped all of the charges against Jacqueline Craig and her daughter, Brea.

The officer involved, William Martin, is appealing a 10-day suspension, which he`s already served. He`s back on active duty, but he`s been moved

to another community.

If you didn`t catch that whole thing, effectively, that mom had called the police because a neighbor, she says, had grabbed her 7-year-old. But it

seems the only grilling that went on was why the mom maybe didn`t teach him to not litter? Pretty distressing. Lee Merritt is the attorney for

Jacqueline Craig, and he joins me now live from Dallas.

Lee, thanks for being with me. You must be really so relieved that these charges have been dropped. But I am curious if you`re going to go any

further with any kind of civil action.

LEE MERRITT, ATTORNEY FOR JACQUELINE CRAIG: Well, really on behalf of the family, we`re not satisfied with the charges being dropped. We knew from

the first video that the charges were baseless. They claimed resisting arrest. They claimed interference. You didn`t see that it in the first

video.

What you see in this new video is additional evidence of Officer Martin`s misconduct, the brutalization of the 15-year-old girl. If you watch the

video further, you will see him beating her. Once that live video goes off, the original live video goes off, you will see him also attacked Brea

Hymond, while her hands are cuffed.

He sorts of hyperextend her arm in a painful mode because she wouldn`t answer his question the way he wanted her to. And so there is just a lot of

evidence to say maybe that 10-day suspension which the community was satisfied within the first place was really, really far too soft of a

punishment for what we saw happened.

BANFIELD: Lee, you know, the video has made such a difference in so much that has come before the police departments across this country. Do you

think anything would -- I still need you to answer the question, are you going to sue civilly? Are you going to take civil action against the

department?

MERRITT: We plan to bring a civil suit against the department. The problem is the damages are ongoing. And honestly, the family is more concerned at

this point with the officer still being -- the police officer on a force that is responsible -- the chief said will be responsible police in their

community. So yes, a civil suit is possible. Right now, we are concerned with justice for them.

BANFIELD: And Lee, this is really just a yes or no question, but do you think the video made all the difference here?

MERRITT: No.

BANFIELD: Really? Interesting. I think perceptions are so different when you get different angles and you can actually hear what that mom was saying

and you can hear what that officer was saying. But I`ll be interested to see how things go. Thanks for being with us tonight, Lee, I appreciate it.

MERRITT: Thank you.

BANFIELD: Selective memory or convenient excuse? Police say a father charged with just a horrifying movie-like plot inside this mansion,

murdering the love of his life and shooting and stabbing his own twin daughters. He claimed he doesn`t remember anything at all. Wait until you

hear what happened in that house. And 40 years after a prison break, this guy? They got him. But you will not believe how he tripped himself up.

[20:35:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: In a quiet part of rural Indiana, 7:00 a.m. Monday morning, when most of us are getting ready for work, a virtual horror movie was playing

out in a mansion belonging to an all-American family. What the Loehrlein daughters and their mom endured conjures up images of the shining, a family

literally haunted down in their own home.

But the killer was no stranger. Police say it was the father, Clint, who was arrested, wrestled down and tased as he was trying to stab himself.

Upstairs, his wife, Sherry, was dead with bullet in her back.

Next door, his daughter, Cynthia, had escaped after being stabbed and shot. And cowering in a closet in the home, her twin sister, Nicole, also shot,

was whispering desperately to a 911 operator. What has police dazzled is what Clint said next, he remembered nothing.

(START VIDEO CLIP)

DAVE WEDDING, SHERIFF, VANDERBURGH COUNTY, INDIANA: When you see these types of events, you scratch your head and you think why? And that`s the

most puzzling piece to this puzzle is why did it occur? What precipitated this? What could cause somebody to harm their loved ones the way he did

yesterday?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Sheriff Dave Wedding is the Vanderburgh County sheriff. He joins me live now from Indianapolis. Sheriff, thank you for being with me. I

heard the description that you gave, that your deputy found a blood trail that told the story to them that was chilling, that there was literally a

hunt going on in that house.

WEDDING: There was. I worked a lot of crime scenes in my career. And usually, they`re localized in a particular area. The residents are

structured -- this particular blood trail went from one end of the house to the other. Multiple rooms where the shootings occurred. Where struggles

occurred. One of the victims had to flee the house and was chased from the house by the father.

BANFIELD: Clint Loehrlein, that father, upon your deputies arriving was trying to stab himself and ultimately said he did not remember anything.

Has anything changed since Monday? Has he said anything?

WEDDING: Nothing has changed. We interviewed him on multiple occasions. He held to his story that he did not remember nothing about the incident until

the deputies arrived. They said he remembered struggling with the deputies. Today, he told the deputies that he wanted an attorney and was not going

to talk to them anymore.

BANFIELD: Was there an issue of drugs or alcohol? I can only assume that you were able to take a sample and assess whether this blackout had

anything to do with substances?

WEDDING: Yeah. Right now, we don`t have any indication to believe that there is any drugs or alcohol that precipitated this action.

[20:40:00] The hospital has obviously ran some tests. We don`t have anything that shows that he was under any type of influence.

BANFIELD: So, you know, obviously, Sherry Loehrlein was dead upon your arrival, but Cynthia and Nicole, the twin daughters survived. As I

understand, they were rushed to the hospital. They are still in the hospital. Clint is still in the hospital. But this is a rural area. Are

they in the same hospital?

WEDDING: They are not in the same hospital. As a matter of fact, one of the daughters has been released from the hospital.

BANFIELD: It is such a chilling story that the daughters -- you said one is released. Have you been able to do extensive interviews with one or either

of them to collect the evidence that surely you`re going to need in I`m assuming a murder trial?

WEDDING: We have spoken to Nicole on several occasions. There is a lot of physical evidence which was collected at the scene based on what we

observed upon arrival, the interaction. I feel we have a very solid case. We would like to know more. But, right now, I feel pretty comfortable that

we will present a good case when it comes time to try this if it reaches trial.

BANFIELD: Sheriff, one last question. Were there any problems in the past, any domestic calls, any issues, anything that neighbors or family or

friends have been able to tell you that sheds light on the why behind all of this?

WEDDING: No, there is not. And that is what`s troubling. They didn`t seem to have any type of past that would cause us to believe they did this or

this occurred because of hatred or anger, something of that nature. The neighbors said, you know, they spoke to both of them on a regular basis.

And they could not believe something like that would have happened at that residence.

BANFIELD: Well, our hearts just go out to these surviving daughters. And Sheriff Wedding, thank you so much for being with us and helping us sort

through this.

WEDDING: Thank you very much.

BANFIELD: The original series, "How It Really Happened with Hill Harper" is premiering on Friday. It looks at this country`s most shocking crimes and

mysteries. And it kicks off with a whopper, the Menendez brothers.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that all children love their parents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trauma to the torso. Parents are like Gods to kids.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Immense carnage.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And he loved me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shocking, the amount of blood.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I loved him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was a horrific crime.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It sounded like.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was it a robbery? Was it a gang-related type thing? Was it a mafia-related type thing?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who hated them?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Something wasn`t right.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I definitely would have given my life for my parents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Out there in TV land.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bye.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I thought we were in grave danger.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The glass was breaking. Ringing noises from the booms. The smoke, the guns, just chaos.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just fired with every shot I had. I just fired until there was nothing left.

CHRIS CUOMO, JOURNALIST, ABC NEWS CHIEF LAW AND JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Joining me now on the phone, from Mule Creek State Prison in California, is

Lyle Menendez. Mr. Menendez, can you hear us?

LYLE MENENDEZ, CONVICTED OF KILLING HIS PARENTS: I can hear you, Chris.

CUOMO: Take us back to that night. What happened?

MENENDEZ: I asked if that was a threat. He said (inaudible). I know my father. I know what that means. He is not going to go through a child

molestation trial. He would rather go through a murder trial.

CUOMO: That was a damning set of recollections.

MENENDEZ: I did not (inaudible).

CUOMO: She`s lying too?

MENENDEZ: He (ph) did not say that.

CUOMO: How do you explain it?

MENENDEZ: That is not accurate.

CUOMO: Did you think that you guys were going to get away with this?

MENENDEZ: I.

CUOMO: Murder in Beverly Hills, the aftermath.

BANFIELD: "How It Really Happened with Hill Harper" premieres this Friday at 8:00 eastern right here on HLN.

[20:45:00] A miraculous rescue, two officers pulling a man from his burning car just before this happens.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on! Come on! Stay down, stay down, let`s get him back.

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BANFIELD: I like to call them as I see them. And when I see heroes, I really like to call them out. So take note of these two names. Officer

Scott Seabolt and Officer Brody Fratantonio from Ohio. These two guys are awesome! Because they saw a burning car that looked like it was about to

explode, and what did they do? They went to rescue the unconscious driver inside, and it was just in the nick of time. Take a look at what it looked

like.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You all right?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re going to try to swing you out of this car, okay? Come on, come on! Let`s go! Come on, come on!

[20:50:00] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this open?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t know. I can`t get it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I got it. I got it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right. Come on out, buddy! Come on! Come on!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s stuck or something.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on! Let`s go!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get out of the car! Come on! We`re here to save you, man! We`re here to save you! Hey! Hey! You okay? Come on, just relax.

Relax! You okay?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stay down. Stay down. Stay down. Let`s get him back just in case.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t want to get this thing blown up.

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BANFIELD: This is just so heart stopping that they got him safe seconds until the car exploded. Now, I`m going to bring you down, because we found

out why that car was on fire. And we`re going to go from heroes to zeroes. It turns out that driver, Lowell Sears, charged with DUI. Thanks, Lowell!

Charged with DUI, crashing into a ditch, car gets on fire, and two guys risk their lives to save you in the nick of time, endangering theirs. Those

two guys, who I think we can all say are the heroes in this story. So that`s that. Thank you, officers. Ohio is so lucky, lucky, lucky to have

you.

Next picture, Stephen Michael York, and that`s his real name. Stephen Michael York, who kind of looks like a cross between Grizzly Adams and Jeff

Bridges, turns out he busted out of prison back in `75 for bank robbery and he`s been on the lam for 40 years. He stole a dead baby`s ID to do it. But

he got in a crash. When you get in a minor car crash, guess what? That`s the stupid thing that gets you back behind bars.

And it turns out Stephen Michael York who`s been living under the name Joel Dean Hanes is not living under the name Joel Dean Hanes anymore. He`s gonna

be inmate number blank, blank, blank, blank, blank. So there`s that.

A wild ride on a highway comes to a crashing end.

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BANFIELD: A biker saying he was trying to merge into traffic before he smashed into a car and got dragged down the highway, holding on to the

spoiler, and it is all caught on not one, but two cameras. You`re going to see them both.

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BANFIELD: Seth Diechman is lucky to be alive right now. I want to show you what he was involved with.

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BANFIELD: Take a look at the video of a car. So there`s this car on the left and Seth was on a motorcycle behind him and felt like he got cut off.

So he goes barging after -- a hundred miles an hour, these two are going. This motorcyclist is so mad at that car, watch what happens when he catches

up, though.

Oh, wow! Wow! Seth Diechman is riding on to the back of that car, hanging on to the spoiler for dear life and looks what happens when the driver gets

out. Seth Diechman is not happy. He is stomping mad! Arms flailing. Walking away. No, I`m not walking away, I am coming back, arms flailing! He is mad!

He is also wearing a helmet cam. What are the odds that you get two angles! Watch his angle!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa, whoa, whoa! Hey! Hey!

BANFIELD: Okay, so it went for a quarter mile like this, with him banging on the driver`s door. And then, you know, you saw the confrontation, it got

really ugly. Joey Jackson, the other driver, Jason Thomas, turns out he was arrested for DUI, but I`m trying to figure out whose fault this was.

JOEY JACKSON, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: You know what? Irrespective of fault, I`ll say this. He`s lucky to be alive and this is a

testament as to why we need to drive safely, be patient, and relax! Tomorrow`s another day. Tomorrow is another day!

BANFIELD: Misty Marris, some witnesses say that that Seth Diechman, that motorcyclist, was driving really recklessly and erratically before all of

this. Does that matter?

MISTY MARRIS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yeah, it definitely matters. And I think that`s kind of a no-brainer. It looks like he was not driving so well. But

my question is, how did Seth Diechman stick to that car? Does he have suction cups? Is he spider-man?

BANFIELD: Spoiler.

JACKSON: He`s a lucky man.

BANFIELD: He`s a very lucky man.

MARRIS: He`s got a tight grip, at the very least.

BANFIELD: Alan Ripka, when you have a motorcyclist changing lanes that fast and then being cut off by another fast driver who`s now arrested for DUI, I

see two faults here, but I don`t know how the law sees it.

ALAN RIPKA, LEGAL ATTORNEY: You`ve got double road rage, first of all.

BANFIELD: Yes.

RIPKA: But at the end of the day, the motorcycle caught up to him, and he came in the rear and the person that hits the other in the rear is always

at fault, unless he has stopped a short stop.

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BANFIELD: So hold on! Witnesses say that that car did something called a brake check. You know when you`re mad at the guy behind you and you go,

I`ll show you, err! Some people say that car did that. Others say, no, that car was going a hundred miles an hour and had to hit the brakes because

there were cars ahead of him.

RIPKA: Well, the facts are going to bare it out. If in fact he did a brake check, he`s also gonna be responsible for this, and the facts will play it

out.

BANFIELD: Yeah.

JACKSON: Can`t we all just get along?

BANFIELD: Yeah, come on. Oh, man. By the way, Seth Diechman, who`s riding on the back of the car, he says he wants the spoiler off of Jason Thomas`

car.

MARRIS: As a souvenir?

JACKSON: You`re alive.

BANFIELD: Thank you, guys, I appreciate it. Thank you, everyone, for watching. See you back here Monday night 8:00 for "Primetime Justice." In

the meantime, stick around, "Forensic Files" starts right now.

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