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Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Denies Immediate Stay of Travel Ban; Trump's New Praise for Putin Draws Criticism; Reactions to Travel Ban From Around the World; Senate Votes to Advance Education Secretary Nominee; Trump Voters in Wisconsin Firmly Behind Him; Refugees Living in U.S. Send Message to Trump; Arab-Americans in Michigan React to Travel Ban; Falcons and Patriots Set for Super Bowl LI. Aired 5-6a ET

Aired February 5, 2017 - 05:00   ET


[05:00:11] ANNOUNCER: This is CNN Breaking News.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. So grateful to have your company this morning. I'm Christi Paul.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Victor Blackwell. Welcome to our viewers here in the U.S. and around the world.

Breaking news right off the top. President Trump's travel ban is still blocked, at least for now. Just a short time ago an appeals court denied the Justice Department's request to immediately restore the president's travel ban.

PAUL: Both the Washington attorney general and the Department of Justice have been given deadlines to support their cases.

CNN justice reporter Laura Jarrett on the phone with us now to walk us through what this means.

Laura, thank you so much. Take it away. Help us understand what has happened overnight.

LAURA JARRETT, CNN JUSTICE REPORTER (via phone): Well, a lot has happened overnight and very quickly. So a federal appeals court has denied this Justice Department's request for an immediate reinstatement of President Trump's ban on certain travelers and all refugees. What this means is that the ruling by the U.S. district court, the judge in Seattle, James Robart, who suspended the ban, his ruling will remain in place for now.

The U.S. Court of Appeals instead asked both the state of Washington and the Trump administration early Sunday morning to file more briefs to explain themselves. We will keep hearing their arguments Monday afternoon.

PAUL: OK, sounds good. Thank you so much. We appreciate it, Laura.

I want to bring in CNN legal analyst and criminal defense attorney Danny Cevallos and immigration attorney Jessica Stern as well.

Can you both hear us? JESSICA STERN, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: Yes, good morning.

PAUL: OK. Excellent. Danny, help us understand what where this goes from here.

DANNY CEVALLOS, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, what happens now is that the parties will read the issues, so at least be given the opportunity to give legal briefs, making their argument. But remember, the only thing they're asking for is for the Ninth Circuit to put a stay or actually asking in a way for a restraining order on the restraining order when you think about it.

So at this point, it's going to be -- the parties will have to brief the issue. And you know, with courts, you can make things go pretty quickly. This is pretty break-neck speed. But you can't have immediate relief the way the White House administration seems to want. So the issue has to be briefed. And the Ninth Circuit has to hear argument on it.

PAUL: So what kind of a timeline would you suspect we'll see on this for travelers?

CEVALLOS: Well, this is already break -- this is an amazing timeline so far because --

PAUL: OK, Jessica, I wanted to ask you, what evidence do you think the Department of Justice and President Trump need to prove their case?

STERN: They're going to need to prove that there is an immediate harm that the United States faces that we as citizens face by the White House not having the ability to pivot entry from the seven countries. And so far we haven't seen that yet. And the arguments that were presented to the judge for the stay of the ban originally, the judge asked the Department of Justice lawyer what evidence is there of terrorism by people from these seven countries who has been arrested on acts of national terrorism and the Department of Justice couldn't answer. And that's going to be important for the court to see that there truly is an immediate need for national security and that that can be presented by the government.

PAUL: Danny, the Department of Justice has asserted that there is classified information here. Maybe they can't reveal particular evidence. If that is the case, and that is their argument, how does that move forward?

CEVALLOS: The very interesting argument because typically there's a political question. I mean, in theory, each branch is designed its own things to do. And in this case, the executive branch under the law they are going to argue has the privilege, the right to bar certain people from entering the country based on these grounds that they are asserting. But the plaintiff, the state of Washington, argues that, well, no, that section of the wall that you're talking about has since been, not necessarily overruled, but there's newer law that says that you cannot discriminate against people for that reason. And that's just simply hasn't been adjudicated in a way that a judge

has put a stay on this -- a ban like this because we haven't had a ban exactly like this. And we haven't had a judge stay a ban nationwide. So this is really unprecedented in several ways.

[05:05:06] PAUL: Laura, do we know how the Washington court will move forward and try to make their case? Laura? Laura, you still with us?

JARRETT: Yes, if you can still hear me, the state attorney general will file a brief later on Sunday. And it will put forth its case saying why the ban should still be halted, just as it argued in the district court in Seattle.

PAUL: OK. So, Jessica, let me ask you, how do you believe the Washington court can successfully argue its case?

STERN: So far the state of Washington has shown some initial indications that the citizens of the state of Washington and Minnesota, who joined into the lawsuit as well, the economy and the state education department are suffering irreparable harm based on issues that now they're facing companies in their state, Expedia, Amazon and Microsoft, I believe, are all Washington state based companies, who are having issues now with not being able to -- or were having issues with not being able to get their employees back to the state and get back to work.

And there were issues with students not being able to get back to school and continue to pay tuition. So if the ban stayed in place, they would have to show how the citizens of their state are affected by the ban and therefore showing the constitutional claims that they've made based on the restriction of entry from the seven countries.

PAUL: OK. So, Danny, with that said, if you were to give guidance to somebody overseas who is trying to get back from the country who has a valid visa, would you advise them to travel still today?

CEVALLOS: I think so. I think that's the general advice. That's what the advice to be gleaned from the present state of affairs. But it's changing by the minute. We are in a different position at 5:00 a.m. today here on the East Coast than we were at midnight last night it seems. I mean, this is a very fluid situation. So it's possible that somebody who makes a decision to get on an airplane now, by the time that airplane lands, and if they don't have Wi-Fi, they may even be in a completely new situation and not know about it.

PAUL: Right, so, Jessica, is there any way for provisions to be made for people who are traveling, who may be in that very position, they're in the air, a decision is made, they land, are there any protections that could be established for them?

STERN: There are protections, but it would be a very tricky situation that they would find themselves in just as the people did last Friday who were in the air when the ban was issued in the first place. And it was chaos. And the officers did not know what to do with Border Protection when these folks got off the planes. But, I mean, there are protections in place depending on what the basis was for their entry in the first place. But it is -- that would be a very difficult situation to face again. And I think that is what the court is trying to avoid before there's a decision on the merits of the case.

PAUL: All right. Laura Jarrett, Danny Cevallos, Jessica Stern, we so appreciate your expertise this morning. They're going to be with us throughout the morning as we try to unwrap this. Thank you so much.

BLACKWELL: President Trump is praising Russian president Vladimir Putin and also appeared to criticize the U.S. in the process in this new interview. Next you're going to hear the exchange that some are calling unprecedented.


[05:11:21] BLACKWELL: All right. Breaking news this morning. An appeals court has denied the Justice Department's initial request to immediately restore the president's travel ban.

PAUL: And what that means is that President Trump's travel ban is still on hold, at least for the time being. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals asked for both sides to file legal briefs before the courts to make any further decisions on this motion. So we're going to keep you updated on this throughout the morning as it is a very fluid situation and things seem to be changing by the minute.

BLACKWELL: Yes. By the hour, indeed. You know, this has been called an unprecedented assertion.

PAUL: Yes. President Trump praising Russian president Vladimir Putin in a new interview here proclaiming once again that he respects the dictator.

BLACKWELL: But the president also said this of the U.S., quote, that, "We've got a lot of killers."

Here's what he told FOX News.


BILL O'REILLY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Do you respect Putin?


O'REILLY: Do you? Why?

TRUMP: Well, I respect a lot of people. But that doesn't mean I'm going to get along with them. He's a leader of his country. I say it's better to get along with Russia than not. Will I get along with him? I have no idea.

O'REILLY: He's a killer, though. Putin is a killer.

TRUMP: There are a lot of killers. We've got a lot of killers. Why, you think our country is so innocent?


PAUL: Well, California Congressman Adam Schiff who serves on the House Intelligence Committee blasted Trump to CNN saying, quote, "This is the second time Trump has defended Putin against the charge that he's a killer by saying in effect that the U.S. is no better or different. This is an inexplicably bizarre as it is untrue. Does he not see the damage he does with comments like that? And the gift he gives to Russian propaganda?"

BLACKWELL: So I want you to listen also to our chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto. He provided us some analysis of the president's comments, in addition to calling them unprecedented and unpresidential. You're going to hear Jim here talk about them just being flat-out wrong.


JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: This is unprecedented by a U.S. president speaking about his own country. That kind of moral relativism with not just the U.S. adversary but an authoritarian state that is well-known, undocumented for enormous examples of mistreatment of its own people at home and abroad.

You can certainly say unpresidential at least if you're talking about being president of the United States to describe your country in that way. And listen, I have traveled a lot in countries like Russia, China, elsewhere, that will often use this moral relativism as a propaganda talking point that, well, the U.S. has done just as bad as we have.

Let's just throw out a couple current examples, OK? Russia deliberately bombed civilians in Syria. Yes, U.S. air strikes have killed civilians. The U.S. military takes enormous steps to avoid civilian casualties. Russia deliberately bombs civilians. Russia has annexed land in Europe. Annexed Crimea in violation of multiple international treaties and international law. That's something the U.S. doesn't do.


PAUL: Now former CNN Moscow bureau chief Jill Dougherty highlights this as not the first time that the president has praised the dictator, obviously, you know that, but she adds there appears to be a nefarious strategy behind it. Listen.


JILL DOUGHERTY, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: We have Vladimir Kara-Murza who was poisoned, it's believed, awhile ago and he's back in the hospital. Now no one is saying that necessarily Vladimir Putin did that, but I think the important thing is why is President Trump saying this? And this is not the first time he said it. He said it in December of 2015 in an interview with MSNBC when he said our country does plenty of killing, too.

[05:15:07] So this apparently is something that he actually believes. Now it reminds me -- Jim was talking about kind of, you know, the old Soviet way. Well, you know, there's a phrase that's called, "what about ism?" and what about ism is you say, well, you do something really terrible and you turn around and you answer and you say, well, you do, too, you do worse things. And this is kind of -- it smacks that. I don't know whether President Trump ever heard that, what about ism? But that is a propaganda technique that was used in the Soviet days.


BLACKWELL: Well, you've heard several times during the campaign and since the election that President Trump has said that it's better to get along with Russia and President Putin than not. And we know the two presidents spoke on the phone last Saturday and the two discussed cooperation in the fight against ISIS.

PAUL: Well, the international outcry to this travel ban is still in full force. It's now stretching all the way to Hong Kong. The confusion over the ban, though. Back in a moment.


BLACKWELL: Nineteen minutes after the hour now, if you're just joining us, the breaking news is that an appeals court has denied the Justice Department's initial request to immediately restore President Trump's travel ban.

PAUL: Basically that means that the Trump travel ban will continue to be on hold, at least for now. And people can continue to travel so far. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has asked for both sides to file legal briefs before the court makes any further decisions on the motion. So we're going to keep you updated on this throughout the morning, obviously.


[05:20:04] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There are many workers coming from Muslim countries especially for domestic workers. And there are many of them -- they might have families, they might have friends in the U.S. and there -- I mean, they're workers. They're part of the community. And I think it's our responsibility to fight also of their rights in Hong Kong.


BLACKWELL: There you see in the upper right hand corner of your screen there, the protests against the travel ban are stretching 8,000 miles from the White House to Hong Kong. Now this rally against the ban was held outside the American consulate there, far from any of the seven Middle Eastern countries directly affected by the ban.

Now it follows rallies held yesterday in London and Paris, Sidney, Jakarta, and several more held in the United States as well.

PAUL: For more on the international reaction to the travel ban, I want to bring in CNN correspondent Jomana Karadsheh. She is live in Istanbul for us.

Jomana, what are you hearing?

JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Christi, to really sum up the reaction in this part of the world it really is confusion and uncertainty. You have people in those country that were impacted and also in the Middle East and the Arab world last week waking up to the news that nationals from those seven majority Muslim countries were no longer allowed to travel to the United States. And then yesterday waking up to the news that, well, now they can, but that this is temporary and it could change at any point.

We have seen some people traveling to the United States. Perhaps trying to take advantage of this pause for now but we haven't seen any sort of major rush to the airport. People trying to get on planes. And that's perhaps because people are very weary of what is going on. They understand that this is an ongoing legal battle. So they are really concerned about taking that risk of traveling to the United States, that perhaps this could change any minute again.

You're talking about -- especially when it comes to refugees, you're talking about those very precious visas that they waited in some cases for years to obtain, to finally get resettled in the United States. So people -- most people would be waiting to see what happens before they take that risk and travel to the United States after seeing what happened a week ago with people being turned back, being detained, being pulled off flights.

But there is also this bit of cautious optimism in the region that perhaps the American justice system is going to overturn what many people felt was a very unjust, unfair decision and a collective punishment of people from those countries -- Christi.

PAUL: All right. Jomana Karadsheh, we appreciate it so much. Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Well, as the legal battle continues over the ban in the U.S., in Iraq there is this continued confusion over the status of the executive order.

CNN senior international correspondent Ben Wedeman is in Baghdad with more.


BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The entire process almost from the very beginning has been confusing when the executive order was signed by President Trump on the 28th of January. Shortly afterwards the U.S. administration officials said green card holders will not be allowed back in. And many of them, in fact, were sent back to one of these seven countries. Then they changed their position, the administration said, then they can come.

And now you have this decision which people greeted but they found it somewhat confusing. There is definitely beginning to develop something of a sense of distrust. Listen to what we heard on the streets of Baghdad today.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE (Through Translator): I'm afraid if I arrived at their airport there, Trump might win an appeal. What happens to me? I might be thrown in jail.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (Through Translator): I don't think Trump will abide by the court's decision. He's arrogant. His policies are like one of our Arab leaders named Gadhafi.


WEDEMAN: And now we understand from the Baghdad International Airport that there was not a rush of people trying to get on flights to the U.S., first of all, because there are no direct flights between Iraq and the United States. But also because word simply hasn't spread. But now we are hearing from the American Civil Liberties Union, from the Refugee Assistance Project that now is the time. If people have valid visas and they have a pressing reason to come to the United States, for instance a medical care, that they should come now because there's no saying when or if this decision could be overturned after an appeal from the Trump administration.

So definitely there is a sense of deep uncertainty when it comes to those who can travel, could travel, want to travel to the United States. So the experts are saying, if you're going to go, better go now.


[05:25:03] PAUL: All right. Good to know. Thank you so much.

Still to come, the Senate votes to advance President Trump's pick for Education secretary. It has not been an easy road for Betsy DeVos. She's received a flood of criticism from both sides of the aisle. We'll tell you where it stands now. Stay close.


PAUL: So good to have you with us just about 5:30 on a Saturday morning. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. The breaking news this morning, no travel ban for now. An appeals court is denying the Justice Department's request to immediately restore the president's travel ban.

PAUL: Instead, the court wants the Washington attorney general and the Trump administration to file legal briefs before they make any further decisions. So earlier I asked our legal expert, Jessica Stern what evidence President Trump and the Department of Justice would need to prove their case. Here's what she said.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STERN: They're going to need to prove that there is an immediate harm that the United States faces, that we as citizens face by the White House not having the ability to pivot entry from the seven countries. And so far we haven't seen that yet. And the arguments that were presented to the judge for the stay of the ban originally, the judge asked the Department of Justice lawyer what evidence is there of terrorism by people from these seven countries who has been arrested on acts of national terrorism and the Department of Justice couldn't answer.

And that's going to be important for the court to see that there truly is an immediate need for national security and that that can be presented by the government.


[05:30:03] BLACKWELL: Well, the Senate voted to advance Betsy DeVos' nomination to serve as the secretary of Education to a final confirmation vote. That vote is expected to happen on Monday. Now the president's pick has received mounting criticism from Democrats over the Michigan billionaire's positions on public and charter schools and her qualifications.

Joining us to talk about this, lieutenant governor of Michigan, Brian Calley, and Lily Eskelsen Garcia, president of the National Education Association.

Good morning to both of you.



BLACKWELL: Good to have you. And Lieutenant Governor, I want to start with you and what is the first of the president's nominees. We have Senator Murkowski and Senator Collins who were saying that they will not vote for Miss DeVos for her confirmation. The first of any of the president's nominees who are not getting Republican votes here. What do you make of that and the need to call in the vice president to break the tie?

CALLEY: It's just part of the process. Individual senators have individual opinions and so it is not surprising. Here in Michigan where we have a -- we have the kind of state where people cross lines all the time in order to take positions on issues. So it is all part of the process. But I am confident that Betsy DeVos will be confirmed next week.

BLACKWELL: And Miss Garcia, I know that you do not have that level of confidence in Betsy DeVos?

GARCIA: Oh, this is the most -- this is an awful nomination. She is the most supremely unqualified nominee for secretary of Education ever. And I think that's why you're seeing this incredible outburst of confusion and anger on the parts of parents and teachers and advocates for children with disabilities. The kinds of programs that are managed by the Department of Education. She seems to have absolutely no idea, I-D-E-A, for instance, of what she's talking about. We've had over one million e-mails sent through the Web site that we've set up. And I know there's a lot more.

And for that, that's why we are at this 50-50 cliffhanger right now. We need one, one more brave senator to cross over and actually start listening to all of those phone calls and e-mails that are jamming them. And listen to the people that are saying, please don't send us someone so highly unqualified.

BLACKWELL: Well, Lily, is there one you're focusing on? Is there one you think you can persuade?

GARCIA: You know, there's one -- one of the things that I was looking at when I saw the lieutenant governor -- hi, but where are the senators that are supporting her? Why couldn't one senator step up and say, this is why I think she's supremely qualified? I'm not hearing from any of them. And that gives me hope. That gives me hope that someone that said, I'm leaning that way or that's where I'm going to go, might read some of those e-mails from parents with children with disabilities to say, this is important, don't just go --

BLACKWELL: All right.


CALLEY: And by the way, I'm one of those parents with a child with a disability.

BLACKWELL: Yes. Lieutenant Governor, why is she completely qualified?

CALLEY: And I have been fighting for people with disabilities for years. And one thing that Betsy DeVos brings to the table is accountability in the system. And that is where I think that this thing -- this whole message line has really gone to a place that I think is completely unfair and misrepresentative.

Betsy DeVos has fought for kids that have been left behind for years, literally for decades, to make sure that parents and kids are in the driver's seat when it comes to their education. And so we have seen that for decades. And so many parents that are taking advantage of those opportunities that are saying, listen, this school that my kid was assigned to wasn't doing a good job, and I wanted to move them to a place that better suited them. And I don't think you can go wrong by putting parents into the driver seat. It adds in a level of accountability to the system.

BLACKWELL: Lieutenant Governor, let me ask you there. During the hearing, we learned that Miss DeVos did not attend any public schools, her children have never attended public schools, she's never taught in public schools. I mean, to what degree is that familiarity or in this case a lack thereof important to the job of the secretary of Education? CALLEY: She has worked in Public Education Policy Development for

literally decades. And, by the way, charter schools are public schools. And she even -- the highest performing or among the highest performing charter schools you'll find anywhere in Michigan she started. And so when it comes to experience in education, I don't think that there can be any question that she has experience in education. When it comes to IDEA, the idea that we have a -- there's not a lot of accountability.

Under the Obama administration, there certainly was not accountability from the federal government and appropriate implementation of IDEA across the country.

[05:35:03] And so with Betsy DeVos, this is the type of person who expects accountability. And when I looked at her written responses to IDEA, I know that she's fully supportive and behind it. I've talked with her personally many times when it comes to issues with respect to kids that need extra attention. And I'm very confident that she is -- that the same level of accountability for kids that are left behind because of tough social economic conditions will -- that she'll focus on and help kids with disabilities as well.


BLACKWELL: Lily, go ahead.

GARCIA: I'm going to explode.


GARCIA: I'm going to just explode. So we're not going to be dealing with alternative facts here hopefully. Here is the -- not having any experience with a public school on any level is bad. But that's not the worst. I think what makes it even --


CALLEY: But that's not even true.

GARCIA: Let me finish. I was quiet for you.

CALLEY: She does have experience. She started a public school.

GARCIA: What we saw under Betsy DeVos and Michigan is seen as the worst of the worst players in profitizing and privatizing. I started teaching about 25 years ago when they started this -- let's have innovative charter schools. I loved that idea. I have some friends that started charter schools. And what happened after a few years is it became to be corrupted by a for-profit industry.


BLACKWELL: That's the conversation earlier with Michigan Lieutenant Governor Brian Calley and National Education Association president Lily Eskelsen Garcia. PAUL: A lot of criticism worldwide for President Trump's travel ban.

In the eyes of some Americans, he's doing exactly what he should be doing. Next, the voters key to Trump's election win weigh in on his most controversial move yet.




[05:40:44] BLACKWELL: The breaking news this morning. An appeals court has denied the Justice Department's initial request to immediately restore the president's travel ban.

PAUL: Here's what that means. That the president's travel ban will remain on hold for the time being. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has asked for both sides to file legal briefs before the court makes any further decisions on that motion. We're going to be keeping you updated obviously throughout the morning, but we do know that those legal briefs, all of them due by Monday afternoon.

BLACKWELL: Yes, we know that protests have a way of attracting cameras, but those lashing out at President Trump's policies reflect only one side of the national movement.

PAUL: A lot of Americans, they're behind Trump 100 percent.

CNN's Jason Carroll found some in Wisconsin, a state that was key to the president's election night.


JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): When you look at the reason why Donald Trump unexpectedly flipped the state of Wisconsin, look no further than this bar right outside of Milwaukee. It caters to a lot of Harley-Davidson employees who come from the plant just a few miles away. The patrons have plenty of praise for the president and find little tolerance for those protesting against him.

KIM GAMROTH, TRUMP SUPPORTER: Get over it. He's in. He's in. And just stop it. Stop it.

CARROLL: Kim Gamroth owns this bar and says her feelings mirror those of many in the community, a community that voted for Trump over Hillary Clinton by nearly 2-1.

And Donnie Balusik is a Trump supporter. Balusik says he worked at Harley-Davidson for more than 40 years before he retired and was also a small business owner.

DONNIE BALUSIK, TRUMP SUPPORTER: It cost me a good business, I guess. Like a bar like this. You know, all of a sudden, certain people moved in an area and the white people move out.

CARROLL (on camera): You mean certain people, people who look like me?

BALUSIK: Or -- well, look, neighborhood changed, like 90 percent in less than two years, white people won't come in, and I had to sell it.

CARROLL: I wonder going forward, does it give you with a -- an unfavorable view of black people, Mexican people?

BALUSIK: Yes, it does. I'll be honest with you, I'm very prejudiced. And a lot of people know that.

CARROLL (voice-over): Balusik says his point of view is unedited. One that he says few people like him share publicly.

(On camera): Do you believe that a lot of other people who feel the way you do also voted for Trump because they feel the way you do?

BALUSIK: They do, trust me.

CARROLL (voice-over): Jennifer Murray and Kim Gamroth say they don't share Balusik's views and that they welcome all who come to the bar no matter their race, but they support Trump and are happy with what they've seen so far.

JENNIFER MURRAY, TRUMP SUPPORTER: He is backing up what he had said, you know, which is finally standing up for America, for the citizens of America.

GAMROTH: For small businesses or for everybody who voted for him. He said what he was going to do and he's doing it.

CARROLL: They also hope the president will keep pressuring U.S. companies to make more products in the United States.

Lane Davidson, for example, assembles bikes in the United States but makes many parts overseas in countries like Mexico. Ross Winklbauer, the head of the local steel workers union, is encouraged by Trump pulling out of the Transpacific Partnership which he says was not good for U.S. workers, but he's personally troubled by the administration's immigration ban.

ROSS WINKLBAUER, LOCAL DIRECTOR, UNITED STEELWORKERS: The green lady, the Statue of Liberty, you know, welcome. And I just believe that's the way it should be.

CARROLL: Patrons such as Donnie Balusik are on board with what Trump has done so far and hope he continues to fulfill his promises.

BALUSIK: I hope he gets another four years after this one. It's got to be better than the Democrats.


PAUL: Jason Carroll, thank you so much.

BLACKWELL: All right. Still to come, a couple who escaped war-torn Aleppo and came to the U.S. They are now speaking out against President Trump's travel ban. We'll have their story, next.


[05:48:11] BLACKWELL: All right. The breaking news this morning, we have been updating throughout this show. An appeals court has denied the Justice Department's initial request to, and this is the important word here, immediately restore the president's travel ban.

PAUL: Yes. So here's what that equates to, the president's travel ban is still on hold and it will continue to be. We know, at least most likely through Monday afternoon. Because the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has asked both sides to file legal briefs before the court by that time before they make any further decisions on the motion. So we're going to obviously keep you posted because this has been something that's been very fluid overnight.


PAUL: I want to talk to you about this refugee couple from war-torn Aleppo. They have a lot to say about President Trump's travel ban.

BLACKWELL: Yes, the two escaped from Syria, and came to the U.S. and transitioned into a very comfortable life. It is their hope that the president will lift the refugee program suspension and give other refugees the opportunity that they had.

CNN's Paolo Sandoval has their story.


POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A search for refuge led Hasan and Rania Mousa from Aleppo, Syria to an Atlanta suburb. This is where the couple started their new life in the U.S. away from the war zone that was their home. Fighting between ISIS and al-Nusra Front forced them into a neighboring country.

HASAN MOUSA, SYRIAN REFUGEE (Through Translator): I didn't stay in Turkey because there's discrimination against Kurds and that forced me to apply asylum in the United States.

SANDOVAL: Months later, Hasan and Rania reached out to a refugee organization within the United States. They were vetted and two years after fleeing Syria admitted in as refugees. Today they make a living working in these aisles and in the kitchen of this international market northeast of Atlanta.

[05:50:08] The Mousas are among six Middle Eastern refugees working here. The market's owner, a 22-year-old second generation American of Jordanian heritage says it's about giving refugees a chance to ease into life in the U.S.

JORDAN A. SATARY, SHOP OWNER: I'm happy and pleased to be able to give them that opportunity to allow them to express all that they want to do and allow them to grow with us. And, you know, it's my hope that I can help train them and help them, you know, assimilate.

SANDOVAL: Rania says life in America was hard at first, but she is working to overcome language and cultural barriers.

RANIA MOUSA, SYRIAN REFUGEE (Through Translator): When I first arrived, I was a bit concerned, but after meeting some American friends, they helped me, accepted me and helped me with the language and things are better for me now.

SANDOVAL: The Mousas would like to see the White House lift its suspension of the U.S.'s refugee program, allowing others to have the same opportunities as them.

H. MOUSA (Through Translator): I did not communicate with anyone here about that ban. Yes, I know about it, but I hope that President Trump will revisit his decision and open the states again for the refugees because the ones who are living as refugees, they are suffering. Wherever they are, from any country they're in, they are suffering and they have the need and they have the right to live a good life with dignity.

SANDOVAL: Polo Sandoval, CNN, Atlanta.


BLACKWELL: We'll continue to cover all of the angles of the breaking news this morning. But let's turn for a moment now to the biggest stage in sports, the Super Bowl. Kickoff now just a few hours away. We'll take you live to Houston with a look ahead at the face-off.


BLACKWELL: And the breaking news this morning, of course, the appeals court denying the Justice Department's initial request to immediately restore President Trump's travel ban.

PAUL: So the ban is remaining on hold for the moment. And we know that that will most likely last, people will be able to fly we believe at least through Monday, because the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has asked both sides to file legal briefs before the court to make their arguments. And then that court at that point would make a further decision on the motion.

So up until this point, we believe, based on what legal counsel is telling us, that people should be able to fly at least through Monday. After that it's going to be another fluid situation.

BLACKWELL: Yes. That's the court. Let's see what their decision will be.

PAUL: We'll see what happens.

BLACKWELL: Some called Dearborn, Michigan, the heart of Arab America. It's home to immigrant business owners who -- they've told us that they have been living the American dream.

PAUL: After President Trump's travel ban, though, some of them say that they just don't feel welcome anywhere.

CNN Money's Logan Whiteside filed this report.



ISMAEL ALJAHMI, SHEEBA RESTAURANTS: I'm part of a family that owns authentic Yemeni restaurants.

HUSSEIN SAAD, PRINCE'S BAKERY: We own a bakery, it's Middle Eastern that's been open for 30 years.

SHATILA: We began in 1979. The founder was my father. He emigrated here from Lebanon due to the war in 1976. And he came and began his own American dream.

ALJAHMI: My family is from Yemen. My father emigrated to the U.S. in 1973, I believe.

SAAD: My father moved here in 1995.

SHATILA: We have about 200 employees total.

SAAD: We have 10 to 15 employees.

ALJAHMI: A total of probably 20 to 25 in this location.

SHATILA: Many of our employees, what they do have in common, is that they are fleeing a difficult situation, whether it be Lebanon, whether it be Iraq or Syria. Almost everyone here has found the American dream in Dearborn and they've grown from that.

[05:55:04] ALJAHMI: We are a big community in Dearborn. We are here to support our families. We are here to make a better living. We are here to, you know, have our kids educated. We are here to get better chances in living like anybody else.

SHATILA: Above all else, I would say that we feel misrepresented at times.

ALJAHMI: You know, since, you know, the ban, you know, Mr. Trump came up with, it's pretty hard. I mean, people are very devastated. It's sad. Shocked.

SHATILA: People feel like they have almost a loss of security. And they feel misunderstood.

ALJAHMI: It's even hard for us to explain to our kids, what am I going to tell them? That my president made a ban against us, against our people? It's horrible.

SAAD: I mean, I'm an American citizen but still feel less welcomed. People look differently at you. He changed the point of view for everybody. And Muslims around the world, he changed how people look at us.

ALJAHMI: Even business, everybody knows Sheeba is Yemen. Oh, OK, so you are one of the terrorists basically. You know, to be that person that's been targeted from the world leader, Mr. Trump, you know, it's not easy to deal with.

SAAD: He should come to Dearborn and have a meal. That's all I can tell him.


PAUL: That's an interesting perspective.

All right. Another thing I know that you all are watching very closely today, the stage for the biggest game in American football. New England Patriots, the Atlanta Falcons, hours from now in Houston. Super Bowl LI. And we got to watch the TV.

BLACKWELL: Yes. So this is the Patriots' ninth Super Bowl appearance, but only the second for Atlanta. Now if Patriots quarterback Tom Brady wins, he'll become the NFL quarterback with the most Super Bowl victories. Now his rival, Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan has just been named the NFL MVP.

PAUL: CNN's Coy Wire actually caught up with Matt Ryan. Here he is.


COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: I am here in downtown Houston with some of my newest friends, Super Bowl LI, from Discovery Green. We are on "Super Bowl Live." The game is not far away. This is going to be an incredible match-up between the Atlanta Falcons and the New England Patriots. The Falcons are looking to do something they haven't done in 22 years, win a sports championship for their city.

Now the Patriots, on the other hand, Tom Brady is looking to win an unprecedented fifth Super Bowl title as a quarterback. He's talked about this week how his family means a lot to him, they've had some health concerns there. They are all here for this big game. But Matt Ryan, on the other hand, Mattie, he's a former teammate of mine, he looks different this year. His game is on point. And there is something about him, a confidence level I hadn't seen before. I had to find out what it is, go inside the mind of Matt Ryan.


WIRE: What the heck did you do this off-season? Was there something that you did to make yourself better?

MATT RYAN, ATLANTA FALCONS QUARTERBACK: I think when you believe in what you're doing, it's amazing how that leads to self-peace or confidence going into games. The Navy SEALs talk about all the time that you don't rise to the occasion you sink to the level of your preparation. I believe in that you prepare in the right way so that when the situation comes, you do exactly what you've prepared yourself to do.

WIRE: So if you could go back and tell this little guy about how can prepare for the journey that is ahead of him, what would you say? RYAN: I was playing for the (INAUDIBLE) right there. And I was

playing fallback number 20. I think I was a 75-pounders. But yes, just to enjoy it. It's been so much fun. And I've been very fortunate.


WIRE: All right. The match-up is just nearby, Tom Brady versus Matt Ryan. Going to be an incredible match-up. Can't wait to see how it all plays out in downtown Houston. Super Bowl LI. It's almost game time and the fans are ready.


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PAUL: Well, good morning to you on this Sunday. It's just edging toward the 6:00 hour. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: And I'm Victor Blackwell. Welcome to our viewers in the U.S. and around the world. We're starting with the breaking news this morning, no travel ban, at least for now. Because overnight an appeals court denied the Justice Department's request to immediately, and that's the operative word here, immediately restore the president's travel ban.

PAUL: Instead the courts want the Washington attorney general and the Trump administration to both file legal briefings before making any further decisions. The new deadline? In just a moment, we'll talk about that.

BLACKWELL: Also this morning, praising Putin. In a new interview, President Trump again said he respects the Russian leader, but that's not the only comment that is offending some. Listen as the president appears to equate U.S. actions with Putin's authoritarian regime.


BILL O'REILLY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Do you respect Putin?


O'REILLY: Do you? Why?

TRUMP: Well, I respect a lot of people. But that doesn't mean I'm going to get along with them. He's a leader of his country. I say it's better to get along with Russia than not. Will I get along with him? I have no idea.