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[03:00:00] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN HOST: Terror on Palm Sunday. Egypt now in mourning as ISIS claim responsibility for two blast at Christian churches that killed 49 people.

CYRIL VANIER, CNN HOST: And another busy week ahead for U.S. President Donald Trump in the wake of the U.S. missile on Syria, but there are mixed messages coming from his administration.

CHURCH: Plus, it all came down from to one tie breaking hole. Sergio Garcia finally wins his major golf tournament at the Masters. And CNN sits down with the new champion.

VANIER: Hi, everyone. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. I'm Cyril Vanier.

CHURCH: And I'm Rosemary Church. Thanks for joining us. This is CNN Newsroom.

Egypt's Christians are in mourning after brutal bomb attacks of two of their churches. At least 49 people were killed. And ISIS has claimed responsibility.

VANIER: Our Ian Lee has more from Egypt than a word of warning. His report contains video that some viewers may find disturbing.

IAN LEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A day of celebration turns to mourning as a bomb rips through a crowded church in Tanta, Egypt. The devastation, the carnage, familiar barbarism as ISIS claims responsibility.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I was sitting in the front and suddenly everything went dark. I passed out and someone push me off my seat. A few seconds later I got up and saw bodies all around. Then hours later the Coptic pope delivers his sermon in the port city of Alexandria.


LEE: Outside a man in a blue jacket tries to gain entry, when denied he detonates his bomb. So much innocent bloodshed on this holiest of days. Sadness quickly turned to rage when Christians mob a regional police chief.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): The authorities have received warnings before that the church is being targeted, why weren't proper measures taken to protect people?


LEE: ISIS has been stepping up attacks against Christians here in Egypt killing dozens in previous months with nerves raw and temper high. President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi urges unity.


ABDEL FATTAH EL-SISI, EGYPTIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): I want to say to the Egyptians who can hear me now, you must know that what is being done is an attempt to destroy you, to tear you apart. Because if you are one unit if would be difficult for anyone to defeat this country.


LEE: The president declared emergency law for three months, granting the police and army extra powers.

It's hard to quantify this type of violence. Everyone outside this church in Tanta has a story of a loved one. The pains seen in the eyes of the survivors.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I saw blood and organs of our friends

LEE: This is your friends' blood.


LEE: On the robe. What happened to your friend?


LEE: This Christian man asked me when, when will he be able to pray in peace? A question tonight, with no answer.

Ian Lee, CNN in Tanta, Egypt.

CHURCH: And for analysis of the church attack in Egypt, we spoke earlier to Saijan Gohel.

VANIER: He's a terrorism expert and the international security director at the Asia-Pacific Foundation.


SAIJAN GOHEL, ASIA-PACIFIC FOUNDATION INTERNATIONAL SECURITY DIRECTOR: This is not the first attack by ISIS against Coptic Christians in Egypt. In fact, these two attacks in Tanta, Alexandria now the three attacks in the last four months, the previous incident was in December at a church in Cairo. That was also claimed by ISIS.

Now this group in February issued a message for its followers to increase the temple against Christians to carry out attack. And it's not just been against churches. It's also been to target assassinations and it's even been kidnappings involved.

ISIS, unfortunately, is growing in the insurgency in Egypt. There are a number of different elements across the country. There's also a very powerful affiliate of ISIS in the Sinai known as Wilayeth Sinai, they were behind the bombing of the MetroJet plane a few years ago with the Russian airliner.

The Egyptian authorities have until now said that they've got the situation under control. But clearly they don't. And it's a tasked mission that they're accepting they're facing a challenge now that they've declared three months state of emergency, because they are going to try and get a grip on the situation and to build up to the east the warriors, there could be more attacks.


VANIER: Anti-ISIS coalition troops and the allied Syrian opposition forces has fought off an attack by the terror group at a joint base in southern Syria.

CHURCH: The U.S. led coalition says the group carrier, a complex attack on the Syrian-Jordanian border against a vehicle rigged with an explosive device and 20 to 30 suicide bombers.

[03:05:08] VANIER: Initial reports indicate there were no coalition casualties.

CNN reporter Ryan Browne has more.

RYAN BROWNE, NATIONAL SECURITY PRODUCER, CNN: This was an intense battle, as you said, involving multiple suicide bombers. This vehicle- borne IED. The U.S. had to call an air strikes against these ISIS assaults in order to help repellents. That is base, you know, it's not really where a lot of the attention in the ISIS fight has been in recent months.

In fact, most of that fighting occurred further north where U.S. Arab and Kurdish allies are making a push on Raqqa, ISIS self-declared capital backed by U.S. troops.

So this is kind of out along the Jordan border towards the south, a little bit out of the way of the main fighting. So, a little bit of a surprise, this attack by ISIS. But the coalition and its local allies are able to fight it off successfully in this case.

CHURCH: International attention will be focused on the Trump administration's foreign policy after last week's strike on a Syrian air base. Ryan Nobles report.

RYAN NOBLES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The big question for the Trump administration heading into this week, is what's next? What's next when it comes to the delicate situation on the Korean Peninsula and what's next when it comes to crisis in Syria.

Is this strike on the Syrian air field a one-time thing? It's specifically designed to keep Bashar al-Assad from using chemical weapons or is it the start of a more involved U.S. policy supporting the removal of Assad. The message from top Trump officials over the weekend, wasn't all that clear.


REX TILLERSON, UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF STATE: We are hopeful that we can work with Russia and use their influence to achieve areas of stabilization throughout Syria and create conditions for political process through Geneva in which we can engage all the parties on the way forward.

And it is through that political process that we believe the Syrian people will ultimately be able to decide the fate of Bashar al-Assad.

NIKKI HALEY, UNITED STATES AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS: There is not any sort of option where political solution is going to happen with Assad as head of the regime. It just, if you look at his action, if you look at the situation, it's going to be hard to see a government that's peaceful and stable with Assad.


NOBLES: Of course, the matter is more complicated than just Assad, the fight against ISIS raging in that region, and of course the regime's relationship with Russia and Vladimir Putin. This delicate balance will be on full display this week, as Secretary of State Rex Tillerson travels to Europe.

He will meet with European leaders on Monday before traveling to Moscow for a high stakes meeting with the Russian Foreign Minister Sergery Lavrov. Tillerson has said he'll push the Russians to put pressure on their allies, the Syrians, to eliminate any chemical weapons they may still have.

Back in home the president will still have work to do with congressional leaders some who are questioning the overall strategy when it comes to Syria, all of this while the tensions in the region are not easing at all.

Just days after the U.S. attack on that Syrian airfield, fighter jets were already taking off, bombing some of the same rebel-held locations where the chemical attacks took place in the first place.

Ryan Nobles, CNN, Washington.

CHURCH: Joining me now is Fawaz Gerges in London, He is the author of "ISIS, a History" and the chair of contemporary Middle East studies at the London School of Economics. Thanks so much for being with us.

So, of course, as we've heard the big question that every wants answered what comes next. And the mixed messages from the U.S. secretary of state and the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. can't be helping, how likely is it do you think that the U.S. would eventually try to remove Assad from power. Does it look like they would be moving in that direction?

FAWAZ GERGES, "ISIS: A HISTORY" AUTHOR: Rosemary, the administration, the Trump administration is full of contradictions. When Barack Obama was in power, the republicans basically vehemently criticized Barack Obama for the lack of strategy on Syria.

If you listen carefully to Haley, the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, she laid out American goals, she said, the defeat of ISIS, regime change, directly or indirectly and the expulsion of Iranian influence from Syria. A high -- a very, very tall order.

The secretary of state, he said, well, the first priority is the defeat of ISIS and then the United States would engage in a diplomatic process, navigate a diplomatic process so that the Syrian people can determine their own future.

Well, two contradictory goals, Haley would like Assad to get out of office today and that tomorrow the secretary of state argues that the defeat of ISIS and the Syrian people will have to determine its future. What is it, what's the strategy of the Trump administration.

Two contradictory agendas here. Let's say, let's go with the regime change in Syria. Let's say that the Trump administration decides in the next few days to say regime change is the America's change. Fine.

[03:10:02] What is the U.S. strategy? What are the tools to remove Assad from power? I mean, we know that the balance of power has changed favorably in Assad's, I mean, direction in the past six months. Russia controls the skies and the land inside Syria.

Iran has major investments inside Syria, so has Hezbollah. It seems to me not only there are no political clarity on the part of the Trump administration. It's full of contradiction. It's inconsistent.

In fact, it's all over the map, let's hope that the Trump official sit down and basically provide, not only strategic vision for the future, that also tell us what are the tools that they have in disposal order to execute America's tragedy.

CHURCH: So what all was achieved by the U.S. missile strikes on Syria, given the airfield that was hit re-opened just hours after the strikes and what do you think president Trump was hoping to achieve.

GERGES: Rosemary, this entanglement from reality. Washington now is celebrating the fact that Donald Trump is a muscular President, that Donald Trump basically delivers on his promises that Barack Obama was weak and whatever.

The reality on the ground, this particular limited targeted strike will not change the strategic dynamics on the battlefield inside Syria.

What the attack has achieved is basically to prevent Assad from using chemical weapons in the future. Assad now will think twice before using chemical weapons. This is a good thing. But remember, most of the 400,000 casualties basically have been killed as a result of conventional weapons, only 1,000 Syrians have been killed as a result of chemical weapons.

At the end of the day, what we need from the Trump administration is a strategic political road map. Let's hope that it has invest strategic capitol in trying to end the tragedy, I mean, the tragedy, the blood bath inside Syria were all waiting for what the administration has to tell us about that.

CHURCH: So what are you expecting or will likely happen in the upcoming meeting between Rex Tillerson the U.S. Secretary of State and his Russian counterpart, Sergey Lavrov.

GERGES: I think this is a very important meeting. Because regardless of what you think of the Russians, there is no way out of the dilemma in Syria without engaging the Russians. The Russians really -- Russia is the most decisive player inside Syria.

I'm hoping, basically, the United States and Russia will come to a particular understanding about the morning after, that both sides now will put the differences aside and really exert pressure, not only on Assad, but also on the regional powers, in particular Iran and Turkey, to come to a particular understanding to consolidate the ceasefire and basically engage in a sustained diplomatic activities in order to find a solution to this particular complex -- conflict inside Syria.

I'm not hopeful at all. Because it seems to me that the divide between Russia and the United States has become bigger and greater in the past 48 hours.

CHURCH: The word was certainly going to be watching very closely that exchange between the U.S. And the Russian foreign minister and U.S. secretary of state.

And we will of course report back. Fawaz Gerges joining us there from London, it is 13 minutes past 8 in the morning. Many thanks to you for your analysis. I appreciate it.

VANIER: The U.S. is building up pressure on North Korea. American warships are being redeployed in the Korean Peninsula.

CHURCH: After the break, we will see how Pyongyang is responding. Plus, despite tension the mood is festive in the North Korean capital. You'll hear from a CNN journalist, the only American TV correspondent in Pyongyang.

Back in a moment with that and more.


I'm Kate Riley with your CNN World Sport headlines. What a day has been at the Masters. The final round has delivered and

then slammer has been Justin Rose. And Sergio Garcia battling out the green jacket. Both of them had the chance to win it at the 18th goal at the end of their final round.

But two (Inaudible) they both finished on the line under par and headed to sudden death playoff. It was the Spaniard Sergio Garcia who delivered winning his ever major.

Another Chinese Grand Prix another winner for Lewis Hamilton his feet in fact have done conditions in Shanghai with impact at the start of this race with two crashes playing out on the wet surface. At one point Hamilton's Mercedes team-mate Valtteri Bottas spinning behind the safety car. Hamilton led throughout comfortably seeing after the challenge of Vettel who had won the very first Grand Prix of the season.

Hamilton emerging unscathed, though, to see Rosberg win of the season.

On Sunday, world unremarkable day for the Oklahoma City Thunder star Russell Westbrook not only did he drain a buzzer beater to give the Thunder a win over the Denver Nuggets but he finally break Oscar Robinson's 55 year-old triple record scoring double digits in three different categories.

Westbrook report his 40 seconds triple double of the season, Thunder would win 106, 105, and Westbrook would finish 50 points, 16 rebounds, and 10 assist.

And that's a look at all your sport headlines. I'm Kate Riley.

VANIER: North Korea is reacting to the U.S. redeployment of carrier strike group to the Korean peninsula. Government officials in Pyongyang tell CNN with sending the warships is yet another provocation by the U.S.

CHURCH: Now, this is not an unusual American military move. The U.S. often shows off its military force in the region. The Trump administration is now defending its decision to send the strike group.


H.R. MCMASTER, UNITED STATES NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR: Well, it's prudent to do it, isn't it? I mean, North Korea has been engaged in a pattern of provocative behavior.

This is a road, a regime that is now a nuclear capable regime and President Xi and President Trump agreed that that is unacceptable, that what must happen is the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

And so the president has asked us to be prepared to give him a full range of options to remove that threat to the American people and to our allies and partners in the region.

(END VIDEO CLIP) VANIER: Alexandria Field has been closely following this story. She

joins us from Seoul, South Korea. Alexandria, we now have the situation where both sides are accusing each other of provocation. And we know that Pyongyang has often reacted strongly to America shows a force in the region. Do you think this is going to increase tensions with North Korea?

ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It will undoubtedly increase tension. And of course, as you point out, Pyongyang will see the return of the USS Carl Vinson to the waters off the Korean Peninsula as a very provocative measure. They frankly interpret any military training actually has been conducted by the U.S. even in this region and in South Korea as being highly provocative.

The U.S. says it's necessary to maintain a prepared stance in order to react to a nuclear threat from North Korea. And U.S. President Donald Trump have said that North Korea now poses a global security concern. With Kim Jong-un, the leader of North Korea making it very clear that it is his goal and intention to test an intercontinental ballistic missile that would be capable of carrying a nuclear tip warhead all the way to the U.S.

You've got officials in Washington who are now saying that the return of this aircraft carrier to the waters off the Korean Peninsula is a direct response to North Korean provocations, specifically, the series of missile tests we've seen not only over the course of the last year, but the four that we have seen since just the very start of this year, just a couple of months here.

[03:20:14] U.S. officials continuing to say that all options are on the table when it comes to dealing with North Korea. We know that President Trump has been calling for the Chinese President Xi Jinping to help in terms of dealing with North Korea. He's even gone so far to say, though, that if China won't help with solving North Korea, the U.S. will act alone.

And now you've got this very clear message being sent to Washington to Pyongyang with this return of this aircraft carrier to these waters. The message clearly being a show of force, the flexing of some American muscle. And U.S. officials not hesitate to say that that aircraft carrier is there as a direct result of these recent provocation, Cyril.

VANIER: Yes, and there's an increasing concern that North Korea could make another big military statement soon. What are we looking at here?

FIELED: Right. It's impossible to know exactly when. But look, every analyst and expert who follows North Korea will tell you with almost certainty that they will prepare to do another missile launch, who knows when, but it could be soon and that they're also making preparations for another nuclear test, that observation is based on the analysis of data gathered by satellites.

The question is always when, we know that North Korea will time some of these provocative actions to either coincide with world events or their own political events. South Korean officials here at the defense ministry in Seoul have

suggested that we could see another missile launch this month or another nuclear test this month, or another nuclear test this month given the events that are happening inside Pyongyang, like celebration of the founder's birthday, that's a big day in North Korea.

South Korean officials suspect that they could use that day to plan something of a larger scale that world, again, grab global attention and of course global condemnation. Cyril?

VANIER: All right. Alexandra Field is monitoring this for su from Seoul, South Korea. Thank you very much, we appreciate it.

CHURCH: And while nuclear tensions are high, there is a completely different mood in the streets of Pyongyang.

VANIER: Yes. Our own Will Ripley is the only American TV correspondent in the North Korean capital, and he filed this report.

WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is my 11th trip to North Korea and I have to say this is probably the most tense it has been in my time visiting this country over the last few years. At least when you're talking to government officials they're watching very closely the actions of the Trump administration.

They are aware of the missile strike in Syria. They have strongly condemned it. They call it a bloody example that North Korea must learn from. They say the key difference if that United States were to launch a similar strike here, they promise that they would retaliate, potentially putting tens of millions of people in South Korea because North Korea has a sizable arsenal pointed right at the City of Seoul.

The South Korean capital there are 28,000 U.S. troops there. Inside North Korea, though, when you're not talking to government officials, the mood is completely different. There's a very festive atmosphere in the streets of the capital city this week, as we experience firsthand.

The Pyongyang marathon, one of the rare days foreigners are free to run through the streets of North Korea without constant government supervision.


JAMIE ZHOU, CANADIAN RUNNER: This is probably the best way to check out the country that's probably one of the least understood country in the world.


RIPLEY: They run alongside North Koreans like this university student. "He was great," he says, "I'm so happy so many foreigners came. We all ran together."

A friendly competition in front of curious crowds, cheering for people from places they'll likely never see.

ANDREAS ABRAHAMSON, SWEDISH RUNNER: This is a completely their shootout of the outside world.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I feel like I relieved having so many question, you know, what's real, what's not real. It's such a surreal experience.


RIPLEY: North Koreans are told they live in a socialist oasis safe from the turmoil of the outside world. A world they're kept far away from. So you're here on your honeymoon.



RIPLEY: This newly wed from Chicago said she surprised this closed society is giving visitors such a warm welcome.

TINA WONG, AMERICAN RUNNER: It brings you down to, you know, the fact that we're all human and the people in the city are very warm and they can be just like us.


RIPLEY: Of course, there's another race happening here in North Korea that's capturing the world's attention in a very different way. It's a race to develop nuclear weapons. And analyst say Pyongyang is moving closer to the finish line every day.

These women say they are not preoccupied with the nuclear arm's race. They're more excited about North Korea's biggest holiday week of the year, with celebrations honoring the nation's late supreme leaders.


RIPLEY: Do you ever think or worry about the rising tension between North Korea and the U.S.?

[03:24:59] "I'm not worried at all, this, says this housewife, we have a strong leader. We have Marshal Kim Jong-un."

Their government tells them the U.S. is responsible for North Korea's economic hardship and isolation.

"I hope more foreigners will come here, says this student, "so they can learn about our Juche philosophy. Runners past the Juche Tower, a symbol of self-reliance and self-development. North Korea intends to win its nuclear arms race with or without the acceptance of the outside world.

Watch the major developments happening. We know that the U.S. carrier strike group Carl Vinson is headed towards the Korean Peninsula. The North Korean saying they're monitoring that strike group's activities.

Tomorrow here in Pyongyang the supreme people's assembly, a political gathering where delegates will vote in favor of whatever North Korean leader Kim Jong-un puts before them. And then on Saturday, North Korea's most important holiday, the day of the sun.

It is around this particular holiday that this country has a track record of military demonstrations, shows of force to project power both domestically here in North Korea, and also around the world.

You combine that with a fact that joint military exercises with South Korea are kicking off this week and satellite imagery shows North Korea may be ready to conduct their sixth nuclear test at any moment.

So much of the world watching activities in this country very closely and with great concern.

Will Ripley, CNN, Pyongyang, North Korea.

CHURCH: And we'll take a short break. Still to come, top advisers at the White House, are giving a pointed message from the president about in-fighting. What he told them. That's still to come.

VANIER: And some of Donald Trump's fiercest critics backed the U.S. president's missile strikes on Syria and are wondering if it went far enough.

More on that in a moment. Stay with us.


CHURCH: And welcome back to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church.

VANIER: And I'm Cyril Vanier. let's take a look at the top stories for you this hour.

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is in Italy for the G-7 summit. He'll meet with six of his counterparts from around the world to discuss Syria and Russia's suspected role in last week's devastating chemical attack. Tillerson then heads to Moscow to meet with Russia's foreign minister later this week.

CHURCH: The White House says Japan's prime minister supports the strong response to Syria's use of chemical weapons. U.S. President Donald Trump and Shinzo Abe spoke by phone Saturday. They agreed to cooperate on a number of regional issues, including what they described as the threat posed by North Korea.

VANIER: The U.S. is defending its redeployment of the carrier strike group to the Korean Peninsula. U.S. National Security Adviser Lieutenant General H.R. McMaster says it's prudent to send the navy formation due to North Korea's nuclear threats. That is not an unit military force in the region.

CHURCH: The U.S. secretary of state is heading to Moscow this week at a critical time in U.S.-Russian relations. There are questions about whether Russia was aware its ally Syria posed chemical weapons.

Rex Tillerson stopped short of accusing Moscow of direct involvement in last week's attack. But the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. takes a harder line.


TILLERSON: So I'm not seeing any hard evidence that connects the Russians directly to the planning or execution of this particular chemical weapons attack. And indeed, that's why we've been trying to be very clear that the Russians were never targeted in this strike.

NIKKI HALEY, UNITED STATES AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS: They now have to answer for this, how can they, with a straight face, cover for Assad, because if they're covering for Assad, then what are they really saying. They're saying by covering for Assad that they knew it was there or they were confident by having chemical weapons there in the first place.


VANIER: And Matthew Chance has more on Moscow's response to the U.S. strike.

MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, there certainly been some bluster from the Russians including most recently, joint statement with Iran, also a key Syrian ally, criticizing U.S. missile strikes and vowing not to allow, in its words, American to dominate the world.

But then behind that, Moscow is being quite measured. It was informed in advance about the U.S. strikes, but then activate its sophisticated missile defense. It's all retaliate on the ground in Syria. What Russian officials are making clear, though, is that this may not be the case again should the United States choose to carry out further strikes.

Moscow says Syrian air defenses will be beefed up and U.S.-Russian military contact suspended, all raising the stakes for any future U.S. military action. Through all this as Moscow prepares to host the U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson who is highly anticipated visit later this week is set to be dominated by the fallout of the U.S. strikes on Russia's Syrian ally.

It's expected to press Russia on the issue of chemical weapons in Syria. Moscow denies Syrian government forces carried out the apparent chemical attack last week saying, chemical, ammunition in the hands of the rebel will of course the horrific loss of life.

Well, Tillerson, the former CEO of the oil company Exxon had been accused of being too close to the Kremlin and criticized for that. He received a Russian friendship medal in 2013 from President Putin himself. But he now comes to Russia as part of a Trump administration, which is just bombed Moscow's main ally in the Middle East.

Matthew Chance, CNN, Moscow.

CHURCH: One of Donald Trump's vocal critics is also praising the U.S. president's actions. Republican Senator John McCain calls the U.S. missile strike on a Syrian air base, an excellent first step. VANIER: But he questions whether the operation went actually far

enough. Since the Syrian airfield that was targeted reopen less than 24 hours after the strike.


JOHN MCCAIN, (R) UNITED STATES SENATOR: I'm taking out there all of their support facilities doesn't let them fly with any consistency. But the signal that they're able to fly almost right away out of the same facility indicates that I don't think we did as thorough enough job, which would have been cratering the runways. And somebody will say, well, then they can fill on the runway, yes, and we can prey on them again, too.


CHURCH: U.S. National Security Adviser, H.R. McMaster the missile strikes were a warning shot to the Syrian regime.


[03:34:58] MCMASTER: What's significant about this strike is not that it was meant to take out the Syrian regime's capacity or ability to commit mass murder of its own people. But it was to be a very strong signal to Assad and his sponsors that the United States cannot stand idly by as he is murdering innocent civilians. What was a red line in 2013.


VANIER: Let's recap you now on one of our top stories this hour. Palm Sunday church bombings in Egypt. State media are reporting that the death toll has risen to 49 people. More than 100 people were wounded. And ISIS has claimed responsibility and promised more attacks.

CHURCH: The attacks happened at two Coptic churches. The first blast rip through a church in Tanta north in Cairo. The second was outside attack outside the cathedral in Alexandria. In response, Egypt's president says he will declare a three-month state of emergency.

VANIER: We're joined now by H.A. Hellyer in Cairo for more on this question. He's a senior non-fellow resident at the Atlanta Council.

Mr. Hellyer, under the former Egyptian ruler Hosni Mubarak, there was an effort to protect Christians in Egypt. Is it something that the current president, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi takes seriously.

H.A. HELLYER, SENIOR FELLOW, RAFIK HARIRI CENTRE FOR THE MIDDLE EAST: I think it's not so much a question about whether or not the current president differs from the previous one in terms of taking that sort of thing seriously. I think the administration certainly does.

The question is whether or not structurally the security apparatus is actually set up in a very competent and efficient manner. When it comes to the particular period that we're talking about, i.e., yesterday, you see a rise in militant activity not simply in Egypt but across the region and indeed around the world with the rise of groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda taking far more in terms of recruits and the fact of capacity.

VANIER: The Coptic community was curious against the government saying that there was a lack of effort to protect them. There was a protest after the attacked. But what do you make of the government's response, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi went on national television and made a mistake.

HELLYER: So the response I talked about a state of emergency, and creating a supreme counsel to counterterrorism and extremism. We still don't know what any of this actually means, the state of emergency allows for a number of different things to take place, but it hasn't been announced quite what those things are going to be.

For example, a curfew technically is possible under state of emergency, but nobody is talking about actually imposing a curfew, and indeed I'm not sure that it would actually be helpful in this situation.

When it comes to other regulations some of them, I think, are ready implemented through current counter extremism and legislation that exists within Egypt.

So as -- when it comes to the supreme council to counter terrorism extremism we're not sure what the preview of that is going to be and how that is going to change, and how policy is actually conducted in the country but as compared to when there wasn't a supreme council.

VANIER: Well, so going back to your first point about how this is linked to the fight against terrorism and ISIS regionally and globally. I mean, are you getting a sense of whether the new measures of the government is proposing will be enough to actually fight ISIS in Egypt.

HELLYER: Again, we don't know because we haven't been given those sorts of the details what sort of procedures are actually changing as a result of the state of emergency.

When it came to announcing the state of emergency in the Sinai, with the rise of militant activity in the Sinai by groups like ISIS. Then that became quite clear. There was a curfew, there were certain things that took that wouldn't have taken place otherwise outside of the around those state of emergency.

When it comes to this particular time in response to the very deadly and quite appalling attack, we still don't know what the actual procedures that are going to change are.

VANIER: All right, H.A. Hellyer, speaking to us from Cairo. Thank so much for your insights.

HELLYER: Thank you.

CHURCH: We'll take a short break here. But coming up, a second suspect is arrested in connection with Sweden's deadly truck attack. VANIER: We'll have the latest on the investigation when we come back.

Plus, the hunt is on for this man who allegedly sent a manifesto to the President of the United States. Police say he's armed and dangerous. We'll see how the FBI is doing about this after the break.


CHURCH: Welcome back to CNN Newsroom. Well, police in Sweden have made a second arrest after Friday's terror attack four people were killed when a driver hijacked this truck plowed into a crowd in the capital. Police say a man they arrested after the attack was likely behind the wheel.

VANIER: And prosecutors are also saying now that the second man detained is being held on suspicion of terror. Dramatic new video shows the chaotic moments of the attack.

Let's look -- let's take a look. You can see the view from inside the shop. You can see people fleeing and then the truck is speeding right there. The streets is normally only for pedestrians.

CHURCH: But as CNN's Max Foster reports terror has not scared Swedish away.

MAX FOSTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: There's been a fierce determination here in Sweden to get life back to normal. That message has come from the king and the prime minister right down to the ordinary Swed.

So, imagine this was street where the attacker came thundering down in his truck. That's how busy it would have been amazing to think that there weren't more deaths that there weren't more injuries.

But the message here is that people should carry on with their ordinary lives into fights of that horrendous terror threat. The truck came thundering down here into this department store. And they put a ply board as you can see to replace that smashed window.

And instead of just leaving it there people are coming here and it's almost turned into a makeshift shrine. You can see message there, people have pinned the message RIP, but most noticeably and repeatedly the world "tillsammans" which means together. All the flowers have been taken from areas like this and place on some steps around the corner for a vigil. That was a national moment for the country to come together.

There's been a huge outpouring of gratitude as well to the emergency services and there are rapid response to the attack on Friday, so people are laying flowers on police cars, for example, with cards saying "we're proud of what you did."

Max Foster, CNN, Stockholm, Sweden.

CHURCH: Well, back in the United States the White House is dismissing any talks of staff shakeups. But President Trump has a blunt message for his feuding top advisers. Work it out. VANIER: Yes, his chief strategist Steve Bannon is known for pushing nationalist agenda, while Mr. Trump's son-in-law, jared Kushner is viewed as more global minded. And the two had a face to face meeting on Friday.

[03:45:02] CHURCH: Bannon was removed from the National Security Council last week, but national Security Adviser H.R. McMaster is downplaying the move.


MCMASTER: Well, this is not a nepotism as it appears I think. But I think what the president was doing was making clear that he's going to in terms of permanent membership on national Security Council have those permanent members who are there for every meeting, every official meeting of the National Security Council to be those who will give him their advice on the longterm interest of the American people.

VANIER: Staying in the U.S. an urgent manhunt is underway in the State of Wisconsin for a burglary suspect who allegedly sent a lengthy manifesto to President Donald Trump.

The 32-year-old then they posted this video on social media, showing him actually sending the 161 page manifesto contained antireligious writings and grievances against the government.

CHURCH: Police say the man is armed and dangerous. Security has been ramped up at churches and other places of worship. The FBI is offering a $10,000 reward leading to his arrest.

VANIER: Tens of thousands of people hit the streets of Dallas, Texas on Sunday to protest President Trump's immigration policies.

CHURCH: Organizers say the massive demonstration is a call for change from people who want their voices to be heard.

CNN's Ed Lavandera has it with there.

ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: On the streets of downtown Dallas this afternoon, tens of thousands of protesters turning out to march in what has built as mega march 2017. Tens of thousands of people have been winding on what is a marching around as it is now, spanning several miles here through down -- the streets of downtown Dallas making its way from the cathedral and the downtown here to the steps of city hall.

This is a pro-immigration rally, calling out what they view as the abusive policies of Donald Trump. That's what you see repeatedly from here, not only on questions of immigration but of how undocumented migrants have been or being treated currently by this administration.

So you this repeatedly, Dr. Martin Luther King III was one of the lead marchers here and this is well as a number of civil rights activist and joining a great number of Democratic party leaders here in the State of Texas as well. A similar rally was held back in 2006 where hundreds of thousands of

people turned out they're doing it once again this time, and this is a crowd that has grown to massive numbers here this afternoon in the streets of downtown Dallas.

VANIER: Coming up after this short break. After years of trying, Sergio Garcia has finally won a major golf championship.

CHURCH: And we will tell you about the special anniversary that made his victory even sweeter.


CHURCH: We turn to the weather now. And Australia has been getting battered by cyclones and the season isn't over yet. We turn to meteorologist Karen Maginnis who joins us now with more. So, Karen, just how bad is this.

KAREN MAGINNIS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well, we are watching quite a bit of tropical cyclone activity and potential for development as we've got two systems, one moving right across Papua New Guinea area. And the other is tropical cyclone Cook and as it makes its way towards the south southwest, it is really in its way from Vanuatu to New Caledonia.

It has produced staggering amount of precipitation.

Here is the latest regarding tropical cyclone Cook. Right now it has winds associated with 160 to 195 kilometers per hour and that is the equivalent to a category two tropical system. In the last 48 hours take a look at some of the reports, rainfall reports coming out of Vanuatu, 272 milliliters or just under a foot of rainfall.

Well, what happens as we go into the next 24 hours New Caledonia as it moves over additional rainfall, expected of between 100 may be 150 millimeters precipitation and then beyond this this point. Then we go beyond that, 72-hour point.

Here is Bay of Plenty along the north island of New Zealand. They were pummeled from the remnants of Debbie, and Cyril and Rosemary, there could be a brush by with this system that could produce another round of potentially heavy rainfall. But that's so far in the future. Back to you, guys.

CHURCH: Yes. A lot of activity there. Thanks so much, Karen, for keeping an eye on all of that.

Well, Spanish golfer Sergio Garcia has finally won the first major championship of his career. He defeated Justin Rose in a sudden death playoff at this year's master's tournament in Augusta, Georgia.

VANIER: Garcia is the third Spaniard to win the coveted green jacket. And he won it on the birthday of his idol. The late Great Seve Ballesteros.

Don Riddell sat down with us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORT ANCHOR: Sergio, that was awesome. Many congratulations. They say the best things come to those who wait. Most people who have no idea what it was like to go through what you did today and to pull it off in the end, can you describe what it was like? What was going on inside?

SERGIO GARCIA, 2017 MASTERS WINNER: To tell you the truth, I was quite calm all day, which was -- which was great because it allowed me to have clearer thoughts in my head and allowed me to swing a little bit more freely and to create things, which I was able to do throughout pretty much the whole day.

So, yes, it was an amazing day. It was a -- I enjoyed to be out there playing with Justin and both playing well and going at each other. So it was a -- it was a thrill.

RIDDELL: You both come at the end -- what happens when you came out and he used -- I mean, it was a very moving moment for everybody who was watching you as well. It was incredible.

GARCIA: Yes, I could feel -- I could feel the energy from the crowd and everything. Everybody was -- it felt like everybody was just still looking forward to that moment, not only -- not only myself and my whole group, my whole team, but everybody around that green it felt like they were just waiting for that to happen.

[03:55:07] And, you know, just a lot of -- a lot of different thoughts, a lot of different memories, past memories from past Masters for me, and all of major championships and all the tournaments, so just a whole bunch of little flashers that it was nice to go through that quickly, I guess.

RIDDELL: I can only imagine how emotionally it would be, not just to do it, but to do it on what would have been Seve's 60th birthday. If he was here now, what do you think you would be talking about?

GARCIA: I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I think that probably he'll be proud of me. I think that we'll probably have a little glass of wine together. He was special to do it -- to do it on his -- what would have been his 60th birthday, on a place that I know has been so special for him and for his Maria and now, also for me. It's just -- I'm glad I got to do it and, you know, we can enjoy it.


VANIER: Sergio Garcia there, emotional speaking about his idol, Seve Ballesteros.

CHURCH: Yes, well done, too.

And thanks for joining us. I'm Rosemary Church.

VANIER: And I'm Cyril Vanier. Early Start is next for viewers here in the U.S. And for everyone else, do stay tuned for more news with Max Foster in London.

CHURCH: Have a great day.


Thank you.