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Trump: North Korea "Has Gotta Behave"; Turks Divided in Vote Giving Erdogan More Power; French Candidate Campaigns by Hologram; U.S. Airstrike On Syrian Mosque Likely Unlawful; Nationwide Search For Suspect In Facebook Killing; Prince Harry Opens Up About Coping With Diana's Death. Aired 2-3a ET

Aired April 18, 2017 - 02:00   ET



[02:00:49] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: This is CNN Newsroom, live from Los Angeles.

ISHA SESAY, CNN ANCHOR: Ahead this hour. As U.S. Vice-president visits the Queen DMZ, President Trump has North Korea's Kim Jong-Un has "Got to behave."

VAUSE: In Turkey, Istanbul, is that they're left in shock and disbelief. They can be deeply divided after historic referendum.

SESAY: And this isn't Star Wars. It's the campaign trail how hologram could be the future in French politics.

VAUSE: Hello and welcome to our viewers all around the world. Thanks for having you with us. I'm John Vause.

SESAY: And I am Isha Sesay, this is Newsroom L.A. Well, U.S. Vice President Mike Pence is in Japan right now with nuclear tensions simmering on the queen peninsula. Pence is warning North Korea not to test the resolve of the U.S. or the strength of its military.

VAUSE: It may be (INAUDIBLE) to all visiting the demilitarized zones separating North and South Korea are left off to that. Pyongyang responded with threats and then ominous warnings. CNN Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr has details.


BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Vice President Mike Pence arrived at the DMZ for one reason, to be visible to North Korea. Making the case, to CNN's Dana Bash, in an exclusive interview. That the Trump Administration is a new sherif in town.

MIKE PENCE, UJNITED STATES VICE-PRESIDENT: As the President's made it clear that we're going to abandon the failed policy of strategic patience but we're going to redouble our efforts to bring diplomatic and economic pressure to bear on North Korea.

STARR: North Korea's ambassador to the U.N. ramping up the rhetoric. KIM IN RYONG, NOTH KOREA AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N.: It has been clearly a dangerous situation in which the thermo-nuclear war may break out in any moment.

STARR: But is Trump doctrine really new? National Security Advisor, Lieutenant General H.R. McMaster says all options are on the table. But a peaceful solution is what the president wants just like all other presidents.

LT. GEN. H.R. MCMASTER, U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: This problem is coming to a head and so it's time for us to undertake all actions we can, short of a military option to try to resolve this peacefully. And so we're going to rely on our allies like we always do.

STARR: The military parade through Pyongyang being scrutinized by the U.S. Intelligence Community. These canisters could carry a missile capable of reaching the U.S. but are they real or are they one intelligence official called, just big, green tubes? Spy Satellites will be used to figure it out.

COL. CEDRIC, LEIGHLON, (RET), CNN MILITARY ANALYST: They are certain in the eye, infrared signatures for example, that could reveal the contents of a canister like that.

STARR: Just hours after the parade, a medium range ballistic missile being tested exploded. The second test failure in a row, it may be just from the chemical failure but experts say, U.S. Navy Submarines --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Repeat a course, 3-3-7.

STARR: -- could secretly attack those missile launches, jamming their electronics.

LEIGHLON: It depends on some very specialized equipment and it would have to be done probably, covertly if they were actually going to do that.

STARR: But out in the open, the U.S. Air Force announcing a successful long plan test of its improved B61 aerial bomb, both nuclear and non-nuclear components. A bomb that could be vital in striking North Korea. Is it getting to that? The nonmilitary effort now is focused very much on getting China to pressure North Korea. But nobody thinks that North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un is going to change his ways anytime soon. Barbara Starr, CNN, the Pentagon.


VAUSE: CNN has generals across the region, Alexandra Field is in Tokyo where the Vice-president has just arrived. Paula Hancocks standing by in Seoul. Alexandra first to you, where does Tokyo stand? Now it comes to the U.S. threat where, you know, military action against North Korea. The president, as you're taking instead of China, why do we need about Pyongyang, the U.S. and its allies will. That would include Japan. [02:05:04] ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right, it certainly would include Japan on because you're talking about the strength of the alliance which these two leaders are trying to reaffirm for the world and for their respective countries during this meeting today which is happening inside the Prime Minister's residence. They actually have a group of demonstrators around here John who are here to show their support for Vice President Mike Pence's arrival and for the alliance.

We've also heard some remarks from the leaders who have been inside meeting this afternoon, particularly Prime Minister Abe coming out and saying, acknowledging what has been the message from Vice-president Pence and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson before him. That the era of strategic patience is over, that's the position that Japan says it values. They say they value the fact that Washington is putting all options on the table when it comes to confronting the North Korean nuclear threat.

But the prime minister did go on to stress the importance to Japan of every effort to bring the conflict to a peaceful resolution through diplomatic channels. That said, he also went on to acknowledge that dialogue -- for the sake of dialogue didn't hold any value. Reaffirming the U.S.'s position that more pressure needs to be applied to North Korea. And again John, you've heard time and again, officials in Washington including President Trump calling on China to exercise any leverage that it has on North Korea in order to reign them in as this threat amounts, as these nuclear tests continue, the latest being -- the latest North Korean missile test happening just as the Vice President was arriving in the region, John?

VAUSE: So I guess, part of the effort to reassure Tokyo about this strategic alliance would be walking back maybe on some of the comments the president made during the campaign about Tokyo. We need to pay more for zone security?

FIELD: Yes, we certainly haven't heard any of that kind of rhetoric with what's often repeated on the campaign trail and which was alluded to certainly during President Donald Trump's inaugural address where he talked about this America-first policy. All you have heard really since President Trump had taken office and certainly in the recent weeks, since he actually met with Prime Minister Abe himself. Is this commitment to the alliance and also the seriousness with which the U.S. were guard -- security concerns posed by North Korea? Don't forget, Japan is a place where you've got some 50,000 U.S. Troops, patient, they are here at a deterrent and Japanese Government depends on their presence, (INAUDIBLE) in the face of this threat, John?

VAUSE: Alexandra Field, thank you. Thank you.

SESAY: And there's also who's in Seoul is CNN's Paula Hancocks. Paula, the U.S. Vice President took his tough talk with them on that visit to the DMZ which is we know led to the fiery comment from North Korea's Deputy Ambassador to the U.N., thus still believe there is still a window for negotiations with Pyongyang, given the state of play right now. PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, I should certainly, officially, there are a few comments coming apart from obviously the condemnation when North Korea tried to fire that missile that exploded. But they are trying to try the very fine line here obviously. The United States is being much more forceful in its language, of course, for the U.S. Vice-president almost linking what happened with the military actions in Syria to Afghanistan to North Korea as a warning.

We are not hearing anything like that from South Korea. But it doesn't mean that they have welcomed that kind of rhetoric. You hear many experts. Some of them previously, governmental military officials, you say that this kind of deterrent, the psychology deterrents against North Korea is vital. And it's one thing to say all options are on the table but unless you backed that up with the likes of trying to bring more military assets into the region, or with more fiery rhetoric, then it just doesn't hold credibility. Now having said that, when there are obviously people quite openly now discussing whether or not as a chance of a preemptive strike by the U.S. or North Korea, that does cause tensions to rise and that does obviously bring some concerns to those in South Korea. But for the most part, I think officials are just happy that the focus is on North Korea, and there is something that may actually change.

SESAY: Paula Hancocks showing us there from Seoul, South Korea. Paula, always appreciate it. Thank you.

VAUSE: And as Paula suggested, it's still clear just exactly what President Trump plans to do to stop North Korea.

SESAY: Yes. He is finding out, it is (inaudible) in Pyongyang that he made it sound during the campaign. Our CNN White House Correspondent, Jim Acosta, has more.

JIM ACOSTA, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Mr. President, how does it feel to have the whole Trump family with you today, sir? President Trump is hardly walking on egg shells when it comes to handling North Korea. With his family by his side at the White House Easter egg roll, the President albeit told North Korean dictator, Kim Jang-Un to cut it out.


ACOSTA: Any message for Noth Korea, sir, Kim Jong-Un?



ACOSTA: Even though the White house has been flexing its muscles lately with high-profile, military strikes in Syria and Afghanistan, the president told us he hopes North Korea will choose the path of peace.


[02:10:06] ACOSTA: Mr. President, do you think North Korea can be resolved peacefully, sir? What are your thought on Kim Jong-Un?

TRUMP: Hopefully he can.


ACOSTA: White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer told CNN the President is counting on China's help. Right over the weekend, the President defended his decision not to label China a currency manipulator. Asking why would he do that when they are working with us on the North Korean problem. We'll see what happens.


ACOSTA: Guess, he's sure to let China off the hook?

SEAN SPICER, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: No, I wouldn't take him let them off the hook, he understands that they can play a very important role in making our world safer. And we're going to utilize the relationships that he has built with President Xi.


ACOSTA: The Democrats, worried of the President's rhetoric is getting too overheated. Arguing there is no military solution with an unstable regime boasting nuclear envisions.


ED MARKEY, U.S. SENATE DEMOCRAT: I think because of the unevenness of his statements and positions which he has taken thus far. It is highly unclear as to whether or not he has the ability to be able to think this thing through in a way that avoids an actual military showdown between the United States and North Korea.


ACOSTA: One thing the White House says it won't do is draw a red line for North Korea to define just how far the communist country can go in its provocations. Spicer noted, red lines didn't work in the Obama Administration's efforts to stop atrocities in Syria.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does the President have a red line when it comes to North Korea that if they cross it, they'd bring about some kind of military response in the U.S.?

SPICER: I think when we talked about -- you know, the use of red lines in the past with respect to Syria, the Present's has made a line. You know that drawing red lines hadn't really worked in the past. He holds these scars close to the vest, and I think you're not going to see him telegraphing how he's going to respond to any military or other situation and going forward.

SESAY: All thanks to Jim Acosta for that report. VAUSE: And that was (INAUDIBLE) a break when we come back, Turkey's president that had gained news sweeping political powers. How's Sunday's referendum has exposed a deep divide to my opponents to saying, the vote was not there.


[02:15:04] VAUSE: U.S. President Donald Trump has congratulated the Turkish President on Sunday's Referendum outcome between Turkey's parliamentary democracy will be gone. And the President will gain, sweeping what we say unchecked new political powers. International elections wanted to say that both was unfair, over distinct groups in challenging the outcome. And Turkey is also extending a state of emergency for three more months, the third extension since the bell (ph) cooled last year. There's a deep political divide between urban and rural areas. In this map, we consider just succeeding green but that in favor of the constitutional changes, the districts in red voted against and they include Istanbul and from Istanbul, Ian Lee reports.


ACOSTA: Mr. President, how does it feel to have the whole Trump Family with you today sir?

TRUMP: Great, great.

ACOSTA: President Trump is hardly walking on eggshells when it comes to handling North Korea. With his family by his side at the White House Easter egg roll, the President albeit told North Korean dictator, Kim Jong-Un to cut it out. Any message for North Korea sir, Kim Jong-Un?

TRUMP: Got to behave.

ACOSTA: Even though the White House has been flexing its muscles lately with high-profile military strikes in Syria, in Afghanistan, the President told us, he hopes North Korea will choose the path of peace. Mr. President, do you think North Korea can be --


SESAY: All right. Well before we move on to the upcoming election in France, an apology for that package of that report we played just there which was Jim Acosta reporting from the White House and the not out Ian Lee from Turkey, apologies for that. Moving on to France and candidates there where their French Presidential elections are baffling for undecided voters in the final days of the campaign. As a rally in Paris, Far-Right Leader Marine Le Pen bound to suspend all immigration if she is elected. Two protesters, interrupted the events, security hold both women away. The latest poll shows Le Pen running slightly behind centrist, Emmanuel Macron.

VAUSE: Well, complicating and already unpredictable race is Jean-Luc Melenchon's rise in the polls. Electors set now the gap with the frontrunners, Le Pen and Macron. SESAY: You know, she is in a hill meeting choosing hologram

technology; you heard it right. Melissa Bell reports, it's technology that he has used before.


MELISSA BELL, CNN PARIS CORRESPONDENT: The last time Jean-Luc Melenchon was in several places at once was back in February.


BELL: The Far-Left firebrand was the first French politician ever to hologram himself while delivering a live speech in front of two adoring crowds he spoke for an hour and a half about his radical left- wing path from a reform which includes a referendum on Europe, a rise in public spending, fund and taxes.

The technology was developed here in this Paris studio. This time though, the challenge is even greater with Melenchon due to be in seven French towns at once including one in the Indian Ocean.

BELL: It is his very real rise in the polls that Melenchon was hoping to cement. He is now one of four candidates with a real chance of making it through to the second round, French Party to a strong showing in the TV debates and to the legal troubles of some of his opponents.

MELENCHON (translated): This campaign has been polluted by the scandal, the concerns some of the -- not me. No, I think it's important to underline that. Here, there are only two people who are concerned, Mr. Fillon and Mrs. Le Pen.

[02:20:12] BELL: Given his rise in the polls since, the hologram's creator believes that this time, the technology could help carry the message even further.

Technology perfectly suited to a man whose left-wing version of populism appears to be gaining ground.

Melissa Bell, CNN, Paris.

SESAY: Let's bring in friend of the show, Dominic Thomas. He joins me now here in L.A. He's the chair of the ULCA's, Department of French and Francophone Studies. Good to have you here my friend.


SESAY: Let's talk about these polls shall we? I mean, once again this election has been something quite different from anything we've seen in decades. And now, even though we're seeing this Melenchon a bit saggy (ph), the race is tightening.

THOMAS: It's tightening. There were a few weeks ago five horses, now there are four left. What we've seen in the last few days is the rise of Melenchon on the Far-Left for a number of reasons. From the moment of which Francois Hollande stated that he wouldn't run to seek reelection, the socialist ran a primary. And whoever ended up winning that primary was going to be a sort of, you know, a damaged candidate, held accountable for the Hollande Presidency and we've seen that happen to Benoit Hamon. This has left a gap between Macron running as an independent centrist and the Far-Left. So he's benefited from that.

As we've talked about before in the show, this is the first time in the history of France that debates have been held in the first round and Melenchon outperformed the other candidates for a number of reasons. First of all, when he went in to the first debate, he was polling around 10 percent, 11 percent, 12 percent. He had nothing to lose whereas the other candidates were a bit more guarded. So he did very well and rose up.

And the third issue is really around the candidacy of Macron. There are so many people on the left. It's considered far too right on issues of security, imprisonment, police, all of these categories that he wants to increase support for. So some of his support has kind of leveled off and gone over toward Melenchon, which has leveled things out.

SESAY: Let's talk a little bit more about Melenchon himself.

THOMAS: Right.

SESAY: OK. He is a 65-year-old leftist with the love of technology using these holograms to pair in multiple places at the same time. If you're are a politician sitting in Brussels overseeing the source of Marine Le Pen winning fills you with absolute dread.

But the sort of Jean-Luc Melenchon taking the presidency, that doesn't provide much comfort either. Tell us about this man and what he could mean for France.

THOMAS: Right. So, a former socialist that moved to the left and then decided to run as an independent under a new party, refused to take any part in the left-wing socialist primary. This is somebody whose difference with Le Pen to the extent that he's not an economic nationalist. She's really about, you know, job protection, France first, leading the E.U. and all those kinds of things. And he's against NATO and would have taken France out of NATO. He is a Euro skeptic at best. He's talked about the fact that their relationship with France in the European Union would have to be completely revised, which essentially wouldn't work because the European Union has not then to agree to those turns but it creates a further headache for the European Union.

It's already gone through one divorce in the family over the last few months. The last thing it wants is an earthquake with a sort of second round pitting Melenchon against Le Pen, you know. In that particular aspect, it would be, you know, absolutely a disaster.

So the interesting thing is that the both ends of the spectrum, you start to see the far right and far left, meet over certain aspects on a very different candidate.


THOMAS: But the fact is that Melenchon is also appealing to that segment of the population that feels left behind. You know, he fancy globalization. He has everything that the candidate feeling has not in terms of protecting, you know, jobs, getting better benefits, retirement is one.

The big question around his sort of platform is how is he going to fund --


THOMAS: -- all of these measures. And that of course is shaking up financial institutions and it's a great concern to the European Union.

SESAY: Yes, we're seeing the markets already, you know, (inaudible). Very quickly to talk about these affected voters.

THOMAS: Right.

SESAY: Such a significant qualms of the country, and suppose just saying, they just won't while they're turning up. Who are these people?

THOMAS: Well they're all over the political spectrum. First of all, they didn't know the turnouts and French (inaudible) have always been pretty good, you know, 79 percent, 80 percent and so on. So a lot of people actually go to vote. And a lot of them do make up their mind at the last minute.

And one of the things about these two runs stage is that you get to sort of vote first time around and then cool off a bit and then decide on who you want in the second round. But that is relied on a very traditional structure where you sort of know, and that it was essentially the two mainstream parties that we're going to go through. That's no longer happening.

So you've got the whole Fillon sort of financial controversy which has turned people away. Le Pen turns people off. The collapse of the left has turned people away. But we have seen in the last few days increases in the number of people that stated who it is that they're going to sort of vote for and is planning to sort of wake up a little bit and realize that this is an important vote that is going to shape France but that doesn't mean that the outcome remains any more predictable than it was just a few weeks ago.

[02:25:18] SESAY: Wow. Dominic Thomas --


SESAY: -- these are critical of times. We'll be watching right closely with your help in the days ahead.

THOMAS: Absolutely. SESAY: A pleasure.

THOMAS: Look forward. Thank you.

SESAY: Thank you.

VAUSE: We'll head back now to Turkey and the referendum there. We had technical problems with Ian Lee's report, we now have it. He tells us about how the results have left Turkey deeply divided, it's Ian's report from Istanbul.


IAN LEE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Aida (ph) and Chocran (ph) say, they need a bit of retail therapy. The lifelong friends have lived in Besiktas since the 60's. Yesterday's referendum left them in a daze.


LEE: Aida (ph) tells me our souls are suffering. We were not expecting this outcome. We need to let it sink in, but we won't let it go. This is for a republic, for our children.

In this neighborhood, a common word you'll hear these days is hayr. Turkish for no. Something else you should know? Locals are as passionate

about politics as they are a sucker.

Sunday's referendum putting no exemption, 83 percent of voters here rejected President Erdogan's proposal with a defiant hayr.

LEE (on camera): This rally isn't just saying, no. It's saying, no, we won. People here believes the referendum was gone and they say they're going to keep up the fight.

(voice-over): Yes, it was a loss for the no campaign but the odds were heavily stacked against them say European observers. While opposition party's alleged voter fraud and demand the Supreme Election Council void the referendum's results.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (translated): This marcher tells me we are unified. This is the common fight across the political spectrum to defend our rights.

LEE: Technical President Erdogan has planned this constitutional change for years, with new presidential powers within restarting in 2019, don't expect him to let any amount of protest stand in his way.

Ian Lee, CNN, Istanbul.


SESAY: Time for a quick break now. State of America with Kate Bolduan is coming up next far view within Asia.

VAUSE: Well, for everyone else, human rights watch accuses the U.S. as failing to take precautions ahead of a deadly air strike on a Syrian mosque. Details for that report in just a moment.


[02:31:13] SESAY: You're watching CNN NEWSROOM live in Los Angeles, I'm Isha Sesay.

VAUSE: I'm John Vause, thanks for staying with us everybody. We'll check the headlines now. U.S. Vice President Mike Pence is meeting the Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Tokyo. This comes amid rising tensions on the Korean Peninsula.

On Monday North Korea's Deputy U.N. envoy warned that nuclear war could break out at any moment.

SESAY: President Donald Trump advisers are said to be divided on climate change. A while official says senior aides will meet to tweak to discuss the future of the Paris climate agreement. During the campaign Mr. Trump called climate change a Chinese hoax and later said that was a joke.

VAUSE: Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has said armed forces into street ahead of anti-government protest for Wednesday. The country is facing a deep economic crisis, food and medicine shortages. Many want the president to resign. At least five people have been killed and hundreds injured in weeks of protest.

SESAY: Now a new human rights watch report says a U.S. attack on a Syrian mosque was likely unlawful. At least 38 people were killed. An airstrike hit a mosque in western Aleppo on March 16th. The United States confirmed the strike but denied hitting the religious building. The 16-page report says the U.S. military "failed to take necessary precautions to avoid civilian casualty."

VAUSE: The U.S. department of defense released this satellite photo of the airstrike, the mosque is shown in the left edge of the image. U.S. official say the building in the middle destroyed in the airstrike was the site of an Al-Qaeda senior leader meeting. Defense official say this, the area was extensively surveilled prior to the strike in order to minimize civilian casualty.

CNN's Jomana Karadsheh joins us now from Amman, Jordan. So, Jomana what is the evidence in this human rights report to backup the allegation the airstrike was probably unlawful?

JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well John, today we're getting three different reports. Three investigations into this strike on March the 16th. You have the human rights watch report, you have also a report by the group of Ballen Cap (ph), that's the organization that uses open source information towards investigation and they analyze photos and videos from before and after, you have Human Rights Watch that spoke to more than a dozen people including four survivors of this strike, they spoke to journalist, and also rescue worker from the group, the White Helmets who was on the scene and helped with the rescue effort, and also the organization Forensic Architecture that basically recreated a 3D model of the building that was hit and reconstructed the attack. And all three organizations reached the same conclusion that the building that was struck in this airstrike was a mosque, it did not minaret, it did not have a dome but it was known to be used a mosque by the local community there. So what human rights want to say is that the U.S. military pretty much didn't do its homework in this case, they didn't really analyze the target, they didn't understand that the building was used as a mosque. Of course we heard from the U.S. military at that time saying that the mosque was 40 to 50 feet away and that the building they hit was a partially constructed community hall. And they say that this is where this Al-Qaeda meeting was taking place.

But according the human rights watch, there was no evidence of any Al- Qaeda members being there or being in that area, they also quote members of the White Helmets is saying that there was no weapons retrieved from where this airstrike took place. And they say that at least 38 people were killed in this strike, 28 of them identified and unidentified, and that five children were also killed in the strike. They're urging the U.S. military to make their findings, that their investigation public, John.

[02:35:05] VAUSE: So Jomana, we already have the with the defense department, the U.S. defense department. They believe that there was enough surveillance before the airstrike, they tried to minimize casualties. You now have these three separate reports saying quite the opposite, what could the impact of those investigations actually have here?

KARADSHEH: Well I think it's also worth noting John, these investigations are claiming today is what we heard on March the 16th. It was one of those really rare occasions when we were reporting on this incident and we were speaking to a number of different organizations in Syria, and they were all coming out with the same version of events, saying that the building that was hit was a mosque, saying that it was civilian casualties, you have the Syrian opposition coming out and calling this a massacre by the U.S.-led coalition.

So, this is confirming this version of events that we were hearing. And then you have the U.S. military, at that time John insisting initially that there were civilian casualties, that it was an Al-Qaeda meeting, that it wasn't a mosque. But later they did say they were investigating and looking into these allegations. Of course the concern always is that, this is not an isolated incident. Within a 10-day span in March you had several incidents where the U.S. military was accused of causing civilian casualties in both Iraq and Syria.

And the concern is always that extremist group, whether it's ISIS, whether it's Al-Qaeda would use incidents like this to try and, you know, try and create more sympathy, try and to, you know, to drive people towards these organizations by saying that the U.S. military does kill civilians. We'll have to wait and see what the findings of the U.S. investigation into this incident of course. John.

VAUSE: OK Jomana, thank you. Jomana Karadsheh, live this hour from Ammon, Jordan. SESAY: Well, the Iraqi Joint Operations Command or JOC says ISIS used chemical weapons during an attack in Western Mosul Saturday. Iraq official tells CNN that at least 21 Iraqi soldiers were impacted by the toxic material, they are being treated and now in stable condition.

VAUSE: The JOC spokesman says experts are now trying to determine what kind of chemical was actually used during the attack.

SESAY: Quick break here, and still to come on CNN Newsroom. The search for a suspected killer goes nationwide in the U.S. and the reward authorities hopeful lead to a break in the case, when we return.


[02:40:48] VAUSE: A manhunt in the U.S. has gone nationwide for a suspect accused of murdering an elderly man and posting video of it on Facebook.

SESAY: Steven Stephens has been on the run since Sunday and now a reward is being offered to information that leads to his arrest.

VAUSE: CNN is learning more about the shooting and the victim Robert Godwin. Gary Tuchman has the details.


GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Robert Godwin was the family patriarch, a father of 10 and grandfather, visiting family on Easter. And while walking home in the middle of the afternoon a video was taken by this man who was holding a cellphone camera and a gun. Robert Godwin was shot in cold blood, his killing posted on Facebook.

This woman lives on the street where the 74-year-old man was gunned down. Ardela doesn't want her last name used for her safety.

ARDELA, WITNESS: He's getting ready for Easter. And then sat at the table listening to gospel songs, that's what I was doing. At that very moment I heard a gunshot.

TUCHMAN: Ardela run to the front door and saw a man she believes to be the murder suspect Steve Stevens holding up a cellphone and walking to his car. And then she looked towards the fence.

ARDELA: I saw a man laying swopped against the fence with blood coming. And I said, I know he shoot that man. And I see he's not moving. I was like "Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, Oh my God."

TUCHMAN: Ardela called 911. At around the same time Steven was seen and heard on Facebook saying he snapped and that he had killed many others. Robert Godwin Jr. was the son of the victim, Melissa Godwin at daughter-in-law.

ROBERT GODWIN JR., VICTIMS'S SON: This man right here was a good man. And I'll just say, he's gone, you know what I mean? I don't know what I will do. It's not real.

MELISSA GODWIN, VICTIM'S DAUGHTER-IN-LAW: I feel like my heart is going to stop. It feels like it's going to stop.

TUCHMAN: Police are saying they consider Steven extremely dangerous.

CALVIN WILLIAMS, CLEVELAND POLICE CHIEF: We know that Steve is still out there some place. We don't know his condition, and of course right now don't know his location. We're asking the public to remain vigilant. We're asking you to go about your day but to be careful.

TUCHMAN: This is now officially a national search, but there is no solid evidence Stevens has left Ohio.

(on camera) There are considerable number of abandoned homes in this neighborhood, and police started searching buildings such as this one after the killing in an attempt to find the suspect.

(voice-over) However there was no sign of him. Meanwhile near the site of the attack, Ardela has painted over her address that was on her front steps because she's afraid the killer might comeback.

ARDELA: You can hear me in black woman, they said, and I didn't know that. But I was screaming so loud, I had panic. But I dint open that door, I was screaming from screen door and -- he heard me. They say it was on his cellular phone my screaming and I didn't know that.

TUCHMAN: A $50,000 reward is being offered for information leading to Steven Stephens' arrest.

WILLIAMS: We're still asking Steve to turn himself in, but he doesn't we'll find him.

TUCHMAN (on camera): Steven is considered armed and dangerous. There's a $50,000 reward being offered for any information that leads to his arrest. One thing he said during the Facebook video is that he had killed 13 people. Authorities do not believe that is accurate, they believe that as of now the only evidence they have is that he killed Mr. Godwin. However as long as he's on the loose, authorities are very concerned.

Gary Tuchman, CNN, (inaudible).


SESAY: Well early Robert Godwin's family got emotional as they talk to CNN's Don Lemon about their devastating loss.


DOROTHY CRUMPTON, FORMER WIFE OF ROBERT GODWIN SR.: We shop together. We thank for each other. He was just -- my best friend, that was my best friend. We decided a long time ago that we have six children together and a lot of married couples will never have what Robert and I had, in this life, they're going to wish for it, but we were friends. And we weren't sex friends either. [02:45:04] I had a stroke in 2014, Robert came over and washed my clothes for me. You know, Robert took me anywhere I want to go, took me to the doctor, anywhere I needed to go he took me, if he had anything he made sure that I had too.

DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: It speaks to the kind of person he is, right?

CRUMPTON: Yes, he was a man of peace and love. He didn't like a lot of drama. He didn't like drama and he didn't -- things worry him like that.

TAMMY GODWIN, DAUGHTER OF ROBERT GODWIN SR.: I was at home and I wasn't feeling well and a lot of times when I don't feel I don't want to answer my phone. So when my mom first called my cellphone I didn't answer. When she called my -- phone, when I picked up the phone she was screaming. She said your father is dead. And I tried to put some clothes on and I just run to my mother's house, my mother live about four rows down from me. And I just want this person to know what he did to our family.

Our father was -- if it's 3:00 in the morning, 2:00 in the morning, 5:00 in the morning he will come see us, sometimes I couldn't sleep and I would call my dad and he would talk to me. And I just want him to know what he took from us. He took our dad. I can't even believe I couldn't talk to my father no more. I can't even thing never going to hug my father no more.

NAUJIA GODWIN, DAUGHTER OF ROBERT GODWIN SR.: First I was in disbelief. Everybody started calling me and texting me, "Did you see that video, did you see that video?" And I'm like what are you all talking about? Our family start calling me -- at first I was angry, I'm like, why would they do to my dad? Why would you put in online like -- I can't believe it was my dad. I don't want (inaudible).

I my dad has to die I guess so people realize that life isn't guaranteed but I just want everybody to know that he should -- everybody you meet and to love your family because they're all you got.

ROBBY MILLER, SON OF ROBERT GODWIN SR.: What happened to my father was horrific. I wouldn't wish that on anybody. The man who videotaped my father getting shot stripped him of his dignity. Stripped him of dignity. And to post it online for the whole world to see, I'm just angry. No I don't want that man to die, I want him to be brought to justice, I just want to him be brought to justice.

I mean, under these circumstances my family, you know, we're sticking together, we're staying strong because, now we got to come together. Now we got to come together. I was in shocked when I found out it happened. And I didn't really realize that my father was gone, or it just hadn't registered in my brain. I'm just -- I'm so hurt and, I just had a loss for words.


VAUSE: It's so difficult. SESAY: Such immense pain.

VAUSE: Yes, that was the family of Robert Godwin Sr. speaking to Jon Lemon. We'll be back after this.


[02:51:06] PEDRAM JAVAHERI, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Meteorologist Pedram Javaheri with you on CNN weather watch. Scattered storm wide spread across the south here, searching out of areas of Texas and to parts of the Carolina. Watching these over the last couple of days and we think some of the stronger storms will want to push out a little further out towards the east. So Jackson (inaudible) working way out towards New Orleans, could see some of the heavier rainfall, Houston as well a concern there for flooding over this region. But notice going to be rather scattered from San Antonio all the way out there towards parts of the central and eastern Tennessee there with wet weather expected.

Also watching a couple storms. Look at this particular one, very symmetrical feather beginning to push towards the Western U.S., and a lot of wet weather, even as far as south, let's say Santa Maria, St. Louis, Obispo California. The higher elevations continue to see record amounts of snowfall come down and temps in San Fran about 19 degrees, same score out of Los Angeles. Denver pushing up close to 30, New York City a sunny day, a very comfortable day at 16 degrees expected across that region.

This (ph) city looking at the upper 20s, Managua about 34 and Mexico City, some much deserved rainfall coming in, around 21 degrees in the forecast there. Across South America, Lima looking at temps around 27 with partly cloudy skies. And if you have a weather photograph you'd like to share with us we'd love to get it out on the air. Any social media platform of choice, just put in the CNN #cnnweather.


SESAY: Well, in an interview British's Price Harry sees candidly about with his mother's death, Harry was just 12-year old when Diana Princess of Wales died in a car crash.

VAUSE: About four years ago apparently he's burying this grief for years not dealing with it. Nina Dos Santos has details now from London.


NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Prince Harry on the trip to Jamaica in 2012. All smiles and dance. The bees were far from fun times what seemingly carefree young royal who revealed to the Daily Telegraph newspaper that he sought counseling four years ago after coming close to a breakdown.

PRICE HARRY, UNITED KINGDOM: It was difficult, sort of 20, 25, you know, 28-year old running around going, you know, life is great, you know, life is fine. And then I was having conversations and actually all of sudden, all of those grief that never processed started to come to the forefront. I was like there's actually a lot of stuff here I need to deal with.

DOS SANTOS: The second son of Price Charles and Diana Princess of Wales, Harry was only 12 when his mother was killed in a car crush in Paris, sending the nation into immediate morning.

(on camera) For the young price who still lives here in Kensington Palace, her former home says that he was unable to process his feelings of grief until he's 20, leading to two years of total chaos, a period which left a profound impact on both his personal and professional life.

HARRY: My way of dealing with it was, sticking your head in the sand, refusing to ever thing about my mom because, why would that help? It's only going to make you sad, it's not going to bring her back.

DOS SANTOS (voice-over): For the journalist who interviewed him, a self mental health campaigner, it was unusual to hear of royal talk for half an hour on any subject, less alone one who's been weary of media in the past.

BRYONY GORDON, TELEGRAPH COLUMNIST: I thought possibly, you know, he might say a few things kind of briefly, and then we arrived in Kensington Palace and it sort of it was me and him in a room with a cup of tea, and just sort of just spouted both. And it was quite extraordinary. Quite extraordinary to hear a royal talk for such a long time.

[02:55:02] DOS SANTOS: This isn't the first time Price Harry, 5th in line to the throne has smashed stigmas (ph). A former soldier he's walked to the South Pole with wounded army veterans to highlights their ties.


DOS SANTOS: And launched games for amputees. In choosing to reveal his battle with his own emotions, Harry is highlighting a cause also close to the heart of his brother Price William who he credits with his decision to seek help.

HARRY: You really need to deal with this, it's not normal to think that nothing has affected you.

DOS SANTOS: Price Harry says that he's now better, but he's very public admission of therapy to deal with his mother's death will lead many profoundly moved, as the nation this summer prepares to mark the 28th anniversary of her passing.

Nina Dos Santos, CNN, London.


VAUSE: You know, it is so important that someone like Harry comes out and talks about this.

SESAY: Absolutely.

VAUSE: Because you're dealing with, you know, emotional grief and trauma. It is difficult.

SESAY: And rare, in the British, to someone speak openly about counseling.


SESAY: You know.

VAUSE: It's good advice.

SESAY: It is. You are watching CNN Newsroom live from Los Angeles. I'm am Isha Sesay.

VAUSE: I'm John Vause. Stay with us, the news continues with Rosemary Church in just a moment.