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PRIMETIME JUSTICE WITH ASHLEIGH BANFIELD

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[20:00:00] ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HLN HOST (voice-over): His girlfriend didn`t like kids, not even his.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

BANFIELD: So did a young dad kill his 3-year-old just to keep her happy?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he tell you repeatedly that there was no situation in which Brendan wasn`t going to be part of his life?

JULIA STENSKY, EX-GIRLFRIEND: Yes.

BANFIELD: On trial for murder, her testimony could help set him free or send him away for life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

BANFIELD: A community stunned.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

BANFIELD: A beloved teen athlete shot dead by police just leaving a house party.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They were simply leaving a party where they believed danger was. And so I can`t -- I can`t wrap my mind around why.

BANFIELD: Why did an officer fire into a car that was heading in the other direction?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I still can`t believe it! I want to see his smile again!

BANFIELD: A receptionist accused of poisoning the boss with a very sneaky drug.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) bright green.

BANFIELD: From bright green to stone-cold dead in just two days.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The family member felt that Mary`s death was suspicious.

BANFIELD: Could it be the accused was sleeping with the victim`s son the night of her memorial?

Another flight, another bruising fight.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my (EXPLETIVE DELETED)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Help! This guy is crazy!

BANFIELD: And this plane hadn`t even taken off. What caused the brawl this time around? And is it getting better or worse? Now the cameras are

catching bad actors.

Keep your eye on the boy with the little blue backpack. That`s him falling through an emergency exit of a moving school bus.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Like, I really didn`t know what happened.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The door shouldn`t just come open like that.

BANFIELD: She`s right. So how did that happen?

And recognize this Bruce Lee wannabe? She didn`t like being told to move on and assaulted the restaurateur behind the locked door. But her days on

the run are numbered.

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BANFIELD: Hello, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield. This is PRIMETIME JUSTICE.

It is never a good thing when the one you love doesn`t love your kids. And it can go from bad to worse if your child then ends up dead. But it can

turn upside down if that lover of yours shows up at your murder trial.

And that is what happened to David Creato today in New Jersey. His 17- year-old girlfriend took the stand in a trial where prosecutors say he killed his own son to make his girlfriend happy. Worse, they say he dumped

little Brendan`s body in a creek about a half mile from his apartment. Creato himself admitted that his girlfriend had suggested he give up

custody to his ex or to his parents.

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DAVID CREATOR, CHARGED WITH MURDERING HIS SON: (INAUDIBLE) just like (INAUDIBLE) because she doesn`t want (INAUDIBLE) in my life (INAUDIBLE) for

her (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

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BANFIELD: Today, that girlfriend, Julia Stensky, told the court, although she was attending college in New York, she did come to home to visit him on

some weekends. She also said she didn`t really like sacrificing those weekends in New York in order to come back and help take care of some other

woman`s child.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You didn`t like the ex`s son, right?

STENSKY: That was an aspect of his life that I was not very thrilled (ph) with (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you told him about that, right?

STENSKY: Yes, I did tell him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You also told him that you didn`t like the way he made you wait at the train station or the other things that you didn`t like

(INAUDIBLE)

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BANFIELD: Although that girlfriend admits to wanting nothing to do with little Brendan, she also said she thought that man, Creato, was a good

father to his little boy.

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STENSKY: I thought (INAUDIBLE) He was a good father. He tried his best. He would cook for his son. And if his son needed to use the restroom, he

would (INAUDIBLE) go with him. He, you know, gave him toys and stuff to play with (INAUDIBLE) all the toys in the apartment when Brendan was over.

We would go on walks and stuff sometimes. One time (INAUDIBLE)

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BANFIELD: Jessie Weber is a host for Lawnewz.com. He joins me live now. Net effect of having the girlfriend show up in court and saying, yes, I

didn`t really want that kid, and I told him so?

[20:05:04]JESSE WEBER, LAWNEWZ.COM HOST: Our viewers on Lawnewz.com were fascinated with her testimony because she is the linchpin of this entire

case for the prosecution`s narrative. She admitted -- if you were following the prosecution`s case, she really helped them out. Number one,

she said that they were -- that Creato was a paranoid and jealous boyfriend. Number two, they fought constantly.

And number three, and most importantly, Brendan was a source of contention in their relationship. And she admitted herself that she thought it would

be easier if David Creato gave up his parental rights. She even threatened to break up with him the weekend before Brendan was found dead.

BANFIELD: Oh! God! That`s never good!

WEBER: It`s just -- it adds to their narrative. Now, like you said, the flip side of it is Brendan -- David Creator was always a good father. She

said he was a good father. He did the best that he could. He never gave any indication that he would harm Brendan or -- and said, I never gave any

indication that I wanted something to happen to him.

And so she said that, but what she said in her first part of her testimony was so crucial for the prosecution. And number two, the really big meat

and juice of this was when she talked about the woods where Brendan`s body was found.

BANFIELD: Speaking of that, can I just jump in right there?

WEBER: Sure.

BANFIELD: It`s a little tricky to hear her. You don`t always get the best audio when you`re in a -- this is real. This is not drama. This is a real

courtroom. And we`re doing our best to hear her on the stand, but it`s what she says that`s so crucial. And you just mentioned the woods. I

think it`s called Cooper River Park.

WEBER: Yes.

BANFIELD: That`s where that little boy`s body was found.

WEBER: Right.

BANFIELD: And this could be really damaging for him. She said they used to go on walks. And guess where they used to go on walks? Guess where

they know the terrain intimately? Have a listen.

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STENSKY: We went to the Cooper River Park (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How did you get to Cooper River Park?

STENSKY: We walked there.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you recall what time it was that you guys went to Cooper River Park?

STENSKY: In the evening, so definitely during the (INAUDIBLE). (INAUDIBLE) stated that we`d been down there, like, 20, 30 times.

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BANFIELD: So they not only knew the paths on Cooper River Park, they knew off-path in Cooper River Park.

WEBER: Now, this is vital for two important reasons. Number one, she admitted that Brendan -- that David Creato had visited that site with her

20 to 30 times in the past. He has said in the past that this area where Brendan`s body was found had a very spiritual place for him, a very

important place for him. And coincidentally, Brendan`s body is found in that exact same location. And number two, this is very key. When he was

speaking to investigators, when David Creato was speaking to investigators after this happened, he said, I haven`t been to that park in a week.

BANFIELD: Oops!

WEBER: Lie. He had been there two days before with his girlfriend and...

BANFIELD: They`d gone for a walk in the evening, right?

WEBER: Right.

BANFIELD: And not even two days, like, less than 48 hours. I think it was Saturday night they went for a lovers` walk in Cooper River Park. And then

the next night, Sunday night into Monday morning -- is that when he drove her back or took her to the train, and off she went and then the baby was

found the next day?

WEBER: Right. So her timeline was she had gone back to school that night. He had called her and they had spoken on the phone and said she was going

to bed early. And then the next morning is when everything happened.

BANFIELD: Oh!

WEBER: But like you said, what`s really interesting is, if we want to believe David Creato, if you`re on the jury and you want to believe him,

how do you explain the fact that you lied to investigators?

BANFIELD: You can`t. You can`t tell a little lie because it undoes everything else you say.

Hold on for a second, Jesse, but I want to bring in Joseph Sorrentino. He`s Julia Stensky`s attorney. Joseph, something is really critical that

our viewers should know. There was a lot of conversation outside the purview of the jury about your client, the girlfriend, actually taking the

stand. She was really worried. She was worried about her 5th Amendment right. She didn`t want to incriminate herself.

Why? What on earth could she have said? What did she think would incriminate her?

JOSEPH SORRENTINO, JULIA STENSKY`S ATTORNEY (via telephone): Well, Ashleigh, you have to understand that when somebody invokes the 5th

Amendment privilege, it is for any potential exposure that might be interpreted by any prosecutor. So it does not have to be that Julia

thought that she would definitely be exposed by her testimony.

I, as a lawyer, advised her she should invoke the 5th Amendment privilege because as you`ve just discussed the last several minutes, it is the

prosecution`s theory that Julia`s relationship with D.J. Creato caused a tension in the relationship that might have given D.J. the motive to kill

his son. So...

BANFIELD: But Joseph, no one is suggesting that your client did anything. And yet I`m curious if you, as a very smart lawyer, said, Julia, who knows

if people are going to think that you were in cahoots? Who knew that there`s some conspiracy charge coming down the pike for you. Is that what

you advised her?

SORRENTINO: Well, what exactly I advised her I`m not going to expose on the show because, as you know, our conversations are privileged.

[20:10:00]But the reality is this. Any experienced criminal defense attorney will tell you that if you have a client this close to a murder

charge, where it has been discussed quite a bit in the press and it has been stated in the press that it is believed that she -- her relationship

with him might have given him the motive to commit this crime, the reality is, you err on the side of caution and you protect your client from any

potential exposure in the future...

BANFIELD: Understand completely.

SORRENTINO: ... no matter how remote.

BANFIELD: I also want to bring in Richard Fuschino, Jr. He is David Creato`s attorney. He joins me from Philadelphia. And Richard, I want to

ask you something very critical about the issue of giving up Brendan because on the stand, Julia was asked about what she had said regarding

giving up Brendan. And I think it`s a critical moment on the stand. I want to play it for our viewers because I`m very curious as to how on earth

this could possible help or hurt the client. I see it cut both ways. Have a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) asked you if you`d described Mr. Creato as paranoid or jealous, and you said you had, right?

STENSKY: Yes, there were times where I felt that he exhibited those (INAUDIBLE)

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BANFIELD: So that was the moment where she talked about the paranoia and that David was very jealous. But then she also had to admit on the stand

that she had spoken about the issue of saying to him, suggesting to him, Maybe your ex might be better suited for the parental rights. Maybe your

parents might be better for parental rights. Maybe it would be better if you didn`t have Brendan. Have a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You suggested to him that he do something like surrender his parental rights or just pay child support or something like

that, right?

STENSKY: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You wanted him not to see his son.

STENSKY: There were times where I felt, as a (INAUDIBLE) child paying support (INAUDIBLE) would be better. There were times where I thought that

it was better if he gave up his rights and his parents had custody, had legal custody of Brendan (INAUDIBLE) on paper.

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BANFIELD: So Richard Fuschino, I`m a little confused because it seemed to me the prosecutor was trying very hard to make the case that you just made,

that she didn`t want the kid and that that`s why David did what he did. And I felt like you, you`re representing David, kind of, like, restated

that case with that cross-examination. Why did you do that? Why did you have her repeat all those things?

RICHARD FUSCHINO, JR., CREATO`S ATTORNEY: Well, there is a far cry from surrendering one`s parental rights or having one`s child stay with

grandparents to murder. And that I think is beyond the pale. It`s far more likely that he could have just...

BANFIELD: I`m with you. But why did you have her say those thing?

FUSCHINO: Because...

BANFIELD: Why would you ask her to repeat those things...

FUSCHINO: ... I think the prosecution has...

BANFIELD: ... because it sounded to me...

FUSCHINO: ... overstated...

BANFIELD: ... like you were suggesting, Boy, you sure didn`t want that kid. Boy, a juror would think, I guess she didn`t want the kid and I guess

her boyfriend knew it loud and clear.

FUSCHINO: Because there are a lot of options between getting rid of the kid by surrendering parental rights and committing a murder. And what he`s

accused of, this heinous crime he`s been accused of, is so far off from what he would have to do if what he wanted is to just not see his son

anymore.

She also admitted on the stand that every single time she suggested he surrender parental rights or just pay child support, or whatever it was

that she suggested, that he said no. He said, I will not have a situation where he isn`t part of my life.

BANFIELD: I`m so fascinated by this case. This child is so delightful and just so sweet on these videotapes. And I can see this cutting two

different ways every time I hear someone else speak.

Thank you so much, Richard Fuschino. Thank you, Joseph Sorrentino, as well. Jesse Weber, my thanks to you for your input on this case. We`ll

continue to follow it.

A 15-year-old boy shot and killed by a police officer after the officers come to break up a teenage house party. Now the police chief is changing

the story of what happened and that officer who fired is out of a job.

And this...

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My child was playing and didn`t know his life was in danger. The next thing you know, he was going out the door.

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BANFIELD: Gone out the door is right, an 8-year-old boy falling out of a moving school bus through the emergency exit. How can this happen? Take a

look that picture because it sure did.

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[20:19:12]BANFIELD: There is a story breaking in a Dallas suburb tonight regarding the shooting death of a 15-year-old by a Dallas police officer --

or a police officer in a Dallas suburb. What`s breaking is that just moments ago, the officer found out he`s no longer an officer. And there is

a lot led up to that, so I want to get you caught up on how we got to this moment.

This weekend in Dallas, in that area, something happened that happens every weekend all over America, probably happened to you at some point in your

formative years. Police showed up to a house party because there were reports of underage drinking. Usually, party gets broken up, kids are

dispersed, sometimes somebody gets in trouble.

But at this party, somebody instead was shot by the police. And by many accounts, things do not look right. When the officers arrived on the scene

and got into that house, things started to spiral out of control. Somebody heard shots outside, and chaos quickly ensued. At first, the police said a

car came at them in reverse. And then an officer opened fire, hitting someone inside that car.

[20:20:16]And this is that someone, Jordan Edwards, 15 years old, football player. One of his teammates had this to say.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I didn`t want to believe it! It was a nightmare. I don`t know how to tell my son (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) guy we play with. We`ll never forget him.

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BANFIELD: Soon the story began to change from the police, and not just a little, a lot. The chief of the police now says bodycamera video shows

that the car was actually driving away from the officers and certainly not towards them.

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CHIEF JONATHAN HABER, BALCH SPRINGS PD: Unconditionally (ph) incorrect yesterday when I said the vehicle was backing down the road. In fact,

according to the video that I viewed, the vehicle was moving forward as the officers approached. I can tell you that I do have questions in relation

to my observation on the video and what is consistent with the policies and core values of the Balch Springs Police Department.

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BANFIELD: That police chief says that he was correcting his account after further investigation, and that officer, Roy Oliver, six years experience

on the force, violated several department policies. Roy Oliver has now been fired.

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HABER: The investigation is complete. After reviewing the findings, I have made the decision to terminate Roy Oliver`s employment with the Balch

Springs Police Department. We will now wait for the independent investigation being conducted by the Dallas County sheriff`s office and

public integrity unit with the district attorney`s office to run their course.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Though Roy Oliver has been fired, no charges have been filed against him. But Jordan Edwards`s death has been ruled a homicide.

Jasmine Crockett is the attorney for Jordan Edwards`s family, and she joins me live from Dallas. Jasmine, first of all, our hearts go out to Jordan`s

family. This has just got to be such an excruciating time for them.

As you see the events and as you hear from the officers and as you have these memories now of Jordan Edwards, what do you see happen? Was this an

intentional murder? What this a terrible accident? Was it something in between?

JASMINE CROCKETT, EDWARDS FAMILY ATTORNEY: Honestly -- I was actually speaking about this earlier today. And unfortunately, I don`t anticipate

that this will be a murder charge. As you stated before, the officers heard what they thought to be shots outside. And so it seems as if it was

a chaotic situation that was going on.

This officer was definitely reckless in what he did. And so I fully anticipate if any charges are brought, they would be manslaughter charges.

There were children running everywhere. There was no need for him to have an assault rifle out with these 15, 16, 17-year-olds running around. But

considering the fact that by multiple accounts, there was something that sounded like gunshots outside, I just don`t anticipate that it would

necessarily be murder.

BANFIELD: So you think the sound of gunshots changes the equation significantly in this case. And I`m curious. The word you used was

"unfortunately." Does the family feel that this was something other than this chaotic and reckless situation?

CROCKETT: Absolutely. But you know, obviously, the family -- they`re not trained in how our laws are set up in the state of Texas. But you know,

they`ve got a 15-year-old who was doing nothing wrong and he`s dead. To them, that is murder, end of story. I think that once the sheriff`s office

puts everything together, though, I just don`t anticipate that they`ll pursue murder charges based upon everything that I know so far.

BANFIELD: It`s super-important for people to know about Jordan. What do you know, having, you know, connected with this family? What kind of kid

was Jordan?

CROCKETT: Man, it sounds like he was really, like, the best kid ever, right? I know everybody thinks that their child is the best, but this was

a kid who was not only into his academics, but he was also into sports. He was a social butterfly. He was actually the one that really wanted to go

to the party.

And I`m concerned about how this is going to weigh on his older brother because he had been tugging at his older brother about going to this party,

and ultimately, it resulted in his death.

BANFIELD: There is that other tragedy. You`ve just touched on it. It`s even greater than what you just said, Jasmine, and that`s the older

brother. Jordan`s older brother was in the car. And do I understand this right, a second brother, as well? There were three Edwards boys in the

car?

[20:25:02]CROCKETT: Absolutely. Three of the boys were in the car. And it`s -- it`s so tragic. I mean, you can`t imagine what it was like to show

up that first day. The driver had actually been taken into custody, his 16-year-old brother, and this is after he saw his brother shot in the head

and was pleading for help for him.

He then was taken into custody for a few hours. And then ultimately, I was called in because the sheriff`s office wanted him to give a statement. And

I had to make an assessment as to whether or not they were going to treat him as a suspect or if they were just treating him as a witness.

BANFIELD: So these kids -- Jordan, his two brothers, two other friends who were in the vehicle when it was fired upon -- do I understand the witness

account`s correct and that is that they were as afraid of those gunshots and trying to get out of there and get out of there fast, as perhaps the

story from the police will be that the police were concerned about the gunshots, as well?

CROCKETT: Absolutely. So as law enforcement approached the house, they saw the lights. They began to run, as many kids began to run. As they`re

running to the car, they actually heard approximately five shots. They then are trying to get out of there because they are hearing what seems to

be gunfire, and then ultimately, the gunfire is turned on them.

BANFIELD: Jasmine, stand by, if you will. I want to bring in Randy Sutton, who`s a retired police lieutenant and the national spokesman for

Blue Lives Matter. He`s live with me from Las Vegas.

Lieutenant, I think Jasmine brings up an intriguing point. There were gunshots fired prior to all of this tragedy unfolding. How, in your

estimation, does that change the dynamic here?

RANDY SUTTON, BLUE LIVES MATTER SPOKESMAN: Well,it absolutely changes the dynamic in that the danger level that the officers felt who were responding

went up dramatically. And of course, we`re talking about a chaotic scene where we have a lot of people running around. They don`t know who is the

person with the weapon. But you know, the reality here is that this is a tragic, tragic set of circumstances and...

BANFIELD: And the car, Randy, was driving away. I mean, no matter how you slice it, there`s no danger to an officer if a car is driving away. I get

it, the first account, that the car was aggressively coming back towards them -- that might make some sense.

SUTTON: Right.

BANFIELD: But the car was driving away. The bodycam shows it. What on earth could possibly possess an officer to lift a rifle and shoot at a

carload of kids running away?

SUTTON: And I wish I had an answer for that. I don`t know what kind of perception that officer had of what danger he might have felt to be in.

But my guess is that the reason that he was terminated is because most police agencies have a policy that forbids firing at moving vehicles that

are fleeing unless there is a really specific set of circumstances that would allow it, such as someone shooting at them.

So my guess is that that is probably why the termination took place so quickly with the bodycam footage. But unless there is actual danger being

directed towards the police officer or he can explain that that fleeing subject would be a danger, an imminent danger to someone else, there is no

reasonable reason to fire at that car.

BANFIELD: Yes. And there is this bodycam video, as well, which I think will be a critical element to this.

Misty Marris and Joey Jackson are with me, as well. If you`ll wait for a second, Randy, I want to get you guys in on us because all I can think of

is that this officer is going to have to come up with something, like the chaos, the fog, these things, maybe he thought he saw something. I mean,

you`ve always got to give someone the benefit of a doubt. This is a tough one.

JOEY JACKSON, CNN/HLN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, I think he should have given that child the benefit of the doubt before he killed the child. Look, the

fact is, is that police officers are trained. I get the situation is chaotic. We`re not in the business of second-guessing police. They give

their lives for us. They protect communities. I get that.

But when you initially put in your report that you feel that you`re in danger because it`s coming toward you -- you have the chief of police that

goes out there and says, Well, wait a second, that`s not consistent with what I saw, there`s no basis or justification.

Police need to be about deescalation. And even with the shots, as chaotic as it may be there, you don`t because you hear shots just take a rifle and

fire. You assess where the shot is coming from. Granted, you have a limited time to do that. But your judgment can take a life. And it did.

And that life was 15 years old. He didn`t deserve to die. This officer needs to be held accountable. He was fired. The next step is prosecution.

[20:30:00] BANFIELD: A 15-year-old probably just as afraid as any account that an officer might give, as well, Misty. So I mean, you can -- you

understand the Blue Lives Matter argument that officers are in danger all the time, guns shots are being fired, there is fear, there is chaos. This

is a 15-year-old who is just as scared.

MISTY MARRIS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It`s absolutely no doubt a tragedy, no question about it. The question will become whether or not it was

reasonable for the officer to use force. Deadly force can be justified if there`s a threat to the officers or to the public. The fact that there was

gunfire, also remember the chief of police came back with the second statement and said that the car did not follow police officer commands.

So perhaps that added to the reason for the police officer to use deadly force. We need to get the result of that independent investigation. It`s

one side of the story. It`s obviously tragic. But certainly there is more out there.

BANFIELD: Well, so far, there`s been good transparency. This police chief came out right away saying, no, no, no, I saw the body cam and so far, not

so good. But maybe at some point we will be able to assess the body cam for ourselves. I want to thank everybody. Justin Crowe (ph), thank you. Randy

Sutton. Of course Misty and Joey, I ask you to stand by if you will.

Michael Slager, remember that name? Former South Carolina police officer. Shot and killed an unarmed black man after a traffic stop, and he has now

admitted to using excessive force. You will probably remember because of the video. Slager had pulled over 50-year-old Walter Scott because he had a

broken taillight and this happened. This was April 2015. Moments later, Scott started running and that`s when a bystander started shooting video.

And I will warn you the video is graphic and painful to watch.

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Walter Scott running away with his back to Slager. Slager shooting at him eight times in the back with his department issued gun. Five of the shots

hit Walter Scott. Michael Slager pleaded guilty today to a charge of quote, deprivation of rights under the color of law.

He admitted that he did not in fact shoot Walter Scott in self-defense. And as part of that plea, Slager will not face the state murder charges, but he

does face life in prison when ultimately he hears his sentence. We will continue to update you on that.

A receptionist on trial for killing her boss. And it turns out she was dating the boss` son. She said they actually had sex the night his mother

was memorialized.

[20:35:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: The trial of a receptionist who is charged with poisoning her boss, has taken kind of an interesting turn, I think it is fair to say. All

of this centers on this young woman. Her name is Kaitlyn Conley. And lo and behold she was in a relationship with that boss` son. The boss who turned

out to be the victim. Yeah, she was sleeping with her son. And it just so happened that son also took the stand in the murder trial against her,

testifying against her.

The prosecutors say that Kaitlyn Conley poisoned that boss, a chiropractor, with a drug that is normally used to treat gout and it is a very secret

little drug. It turns out it`s real hard to detect it. This is the victim, Mary Yoder. Miss Yoder, Dr. Yoder, suddenly one day became very ill back in

July of 2015. And when she got so bad, she was in the ER. And within 48 hours, Mary Yoder, Dr. Yoder, was dead.

The investigators say the evidence pointed right at that pretty lady wearing the orange jumpsuit, Kaitlyn Conley, who not only worked for Dr.

Yoder and Dr. Yoder`s husband, she was dating their son. And that son, Adam, took the stand this week and had to spill all the beans about what he

and Kaitlyn were up to in their relationship and what he and Kaitlyn were up in the days leading up to and immediately following his mother`s very

painful and ugly death.

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ADAM YODER, MARY YODER`S SON: She couldn`t speak. She couldn`t write anything down, she wanted to communicate. Her hands were swollen.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were you in contact with Kaitlyn Conley during that time period?

YODER: Yeah. Came over a lot.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Okay. Was she supportive?

YODER: Yeah.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was she helping you through your grief?

YODER: Yes.

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BANFIELD: Yeah, she was helping him through his grief all right if help means having sex with him on the night of his mom`s memorial service. I

guess you could say she was helping him. Strangely enough, the defendant, pretty Kaitlyn, even helped to plan that memorial service. That`s weird.

Prosecutors also say that while Kaitlyn was rekindling that very steamy relationship with the victim`s son, Adam, she was also framing Adam for the

murder of his mom. Are you with me? Because there`s a lot.

Joleen Ferris is trying to sort through it all too. She is a reporter for CNN affiliate WKTV. She joins me live from Utica, New York. I`m not sure I

even know where to start. Joleen, Adam took the stand. This could not have been easy. He is looking across the courtroom at his beautiful ex, I`m

assuming an ex now girlfriend, and he`s talking about the horrifying way that his mom was poisoned. How did this feel in the courtroom?

[20:40:00] JOLEEN FERRIS, REPORTER FOR WKTV: Like I said everyday, just more intense today. I mean, it has been everyday standing room only, elbow

to elbow, people in the vestibule. I mean, two of the attorneys` parents have showed up. You can`t hear a pin drop. The jury just riveted. I mean,

at one point, it look like they were watching a tennis match, back and forth, watching the prosecutor, watching Yoder. Very, very alert and

focused.

BANFIELD: That is such a perfect depiction of the true drama that plays out in these courtroom trials. If you have ever sat in the gallery of a

courtroom, it is not as boring as the picture on television it seems. It is fascinating, intriguing, and gut-wrenching. I`m looking at the picture of

Kaitlyn.

She seems to be hidden mostly behind her long hair. She sits at defense table. Probably a little, hard to see her reactions. Could you ever see if

Adam and Kaitlyn made eye contact and what the dynamic between those two was at this very uncomfortable juncture?

FERRIS: We were sitting behind her, but we can see him. I saw him looked at her a couple of times, but clearly from his demeanor and what he`s saying,

you can tell he just regard her with probably an understatement to say a lot of disdain.

BANFIELD: Yeah, I can understand that. There were a couple of things we learned today that sounded just sort of astounding. I had to reread them,

that Kaitlyn actually was part of the planning process of her alleged victim`s memorial, that Kaitlyn was having sex with Adam on the night of

that memorial. And then there was this, that Kaitlyn was actually in the hospital room as Mary Yoder was dying. Do I have that right?

FERRIS: Yes. You know, you hit the nail on the head. A lot of facts just coming out of everywhere. It`s hard to keep up. I mean, we learned they

broke up twice. They broken up most recently in August of 2014 and then in the spring, Adam was dating someone else.

Around that time, he actually took sick for about two weeks with the same symptoms his mother wound up having a few weeks later, but he recovered

after two weeks. Fast forward his mom dies in July and like you said, Kaitlyn is back in his life.

BANFIELD: What`s so freaky about this, Joleen, is that Mary Yoder was poisoned with colchicine. It doesn`t show up. It is a sneaky little drug

that can kill you within 48 hours and it`s real tricky to spot it. There is a colchicine bottle with Kaitlyn`s Conley`s DNA on it.

What doesn`t make sense though is why Kaitlyn Conley wrote a mysterious anonymous letter to the officers saying, if it`s colchicine, check Adam`s

car. And lo and behold, there is a bottle of colchicine under his seat, and she admitted to doing that. A, why did she admit that? B, what was the

motive to kill Mary Yoder?

FERRIS: Like I said initially, the prosecution told the jury in opening arguments that the law doesn`t require them to prove a motive but they said

they would get to that a little later. What we can tell you is what they`re spending a lot of time on now was basically so far the relationship, the

tumultuous on again, off again relationship between Adam Yoder and Kaitlyn Conley.

I want to see if they go any further with that, I think if we see that interviews with her and law enforcement, but again, they said they`re not

required to prove a motive. It is like they`re just throwing out these little factoids, snapshots and you have to hope that the jury strings those

together into a bigger picture and reflects what they want it to reflect.

BANFIELD: I`m calling you on the day they actually reveal any kind of motive. I know it`s not essential, but I`m sorry, this one is weird and I

want to know what it is and if I`m in that jury box, I really want to know what it is. Joleen Ferris, thank you so much.

Another day, another story about our not so friendly skies. This time it is a fight that broke out on a flight. Surprise, surprise. What`s really going

to surprise you is what happened right after this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Someone help! This guy is crazy!

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BANFIELD: Okay. You can cue the You Tube jokes. I look like a flight attendant tonight. I know that. It was an accident. It was.

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JACKSON: You look fabulous (ph). You look dynamite, Ashleigh.

BANFIELD: It was totally coincidental.

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BANFIELD: I like Joey Jackson and Misty.

MARRIS: I would love to see Ashleigh on my flight. Come on.

JACKSON: She`s beautiful, ladies and gentlemen. Beautiful!

BANFIELD: All right. There has been so much turbulence on the friendly skies lately, you know that, whether passengers or crew behaving badly. It

doesn`t look like it`s getting any better or it`s going to stop any time soon. And just the latest example of that is this all out brawl between two

guys on an airline called All Nippon Airways.

The flight was on its way to Los Angeles. It was still at the airport in Tokyo. But what happened was caught on video from just a few rows away by

one photographer named Corey Hour.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Someone help! This guy is crazy!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`ll kill you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please, please stop.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Security!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get that guy off the plane.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This mother (inaudible) is not getting off the plane?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, stop it. Guys, get off this plane.

[20:50:00] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, hey, hey.

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BANFIELD: Okay. I know. It went on a long time. And according to the witnesses, the man in red was the instigator here. He was pulled off that

plane and he was arrested but not before allegedly choking an airline employee who was out at the gate. That flight was delayed for about an hour

and a half, actually not bad. But it did eventually take off sans guy in the red.

The video surfacing on the very same day that the CEO of the United Airlines was called to Capitol Hill over violent removal of a passenger and

the company`s bungled apology that followed. United eventually settling out of court with the doctor who was dragged bleeding and broken off the

overbooked flight, Dr. David Dao. Oscar Munoz told the members of the House Transportation Committee in that case that the airline horribly failed.

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OSCAR MUNOZ, CEO OF UNITED AIRLINES: The reason I`m sitting here today is because on April 9th, we had a serious breach of public trust. I would like

to again apologize to Dr. Dao, to his family, to every person on that flight, 3411, and of course to all our customers and employees worldwide.

Further, I`m personally sorry for the fact that my immediate response and the response of our airline was inadequate to that moment. No customer, no

individual should ever be treated the way Mr. Dao was, ever.

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BANFIELD: You can say that again. And actually Oscar Munoz has said that again and again and again to the tune of I don`t know how many millions of

dollars. Corey Hour was that photographer/eyewitness to the fight on the flight from Tokyo to L.A. He joins me live now from L.A. Corey, what did I

not see? I know that things happen and videos begin after they happen. What didn`t I witness?

COREY HOUR, EYEWITNESS ON FLIGHT: So initially you missed a key moment that kind of instigated everything. The gentleman in the red was actually

verbally abusing everyone in the vicinity, mainly the gentleman in the black shirt. He turned around and he was facing the gentleman in the black

shirt. By the time I heard their conversation and how it progressed, I heard the last two lines and that was a direct where are you from?

And I`m going to kill you. Literally one after another without an actual reply to the first. And so that actually jump started everything. It kind

of jolted us into the next two minutes which consisted of the gentleman in red actually physically assaulting the two passengers next to him,

passengers of the flight.

And so he would wrangle the first gentleman which is an Asian gentleman by the back of his neck and throw him into the center of the aisle. Then

afterwards, he went on to terrorize the rest of the flight. The video actually starts when him and the gentleman in the black shirt actually

started changing blows.

BANFIELD: So you`re saying the guy in the black shirt was trying to stop the guy in the red shirt from assaults that had already taken place. Do you

know what this was about? Was it overhead space? Was it put your seat back up? What was it?

HOUR: Your guess is at this point just as good as mine. It seemed like he was taking out all of his frustration on anybody in the vicinity. There

really isn`t any lead up to this moment. The flight was yes, delayed by 50 minutes due to weather condition. But now that I`ve collected my thoughts

about it and I`ve discussed it with all the members on the flight, there really was not a defining moment that led up to this.

Something flipped in him that he started attacking people verbally and then it led on to physical. There was no really any trigger moment that made

that happen. It just happened.

BANFIELD: Bizarre. So, hold on for a second, Corey, if you will. I want to bring in David Soucie who`s CNN safety analyst and former FAA safety

inspector whose live with me from Denver. David, nice to see you. All of this is happening as I`m reading news I can`t believe I`m reading and that

is an American Airlines is going to yet again decrease the space that you have from your knees to the seat in front of you, apparently from 31 inches

to 29 inches for the last three rows of the planes.

I kind of have the impression that airlines were going the other way. Stock (ph) putting us in a sardine can and making us rot (inaudible), but I don`t

think that`s happening, is it?

DAVID SOUCIE, CNN SAFETY ANALYST AND FORMER FAA SAFETY INSPECTOR: It`s making you pay more, that`s for sure. On the same day they testified to

congress they`re going to stop extra charges and they`re going to stop overbooking which reduces cost, now they`re going to pack them in tighter.

So it`s all just a give and take. We will give you this, we will take that. We will give you this, we will take that. Just keeps on going.

BANFIELD: And the overbooking obviously being a big issue too. I should say that Southwest Airlines will no longer overbook.

[20:55:00] United doing that as well. JetBlue says it`s keeping its policy of not overbooking. Maybe that will stop and you and I won`t have these

silly interviews about people behaving badly. I have to cut it there. It is so nice to see you, David.

SOUCIE: Thank you, Ashleigh.

BANFIELD: Good to see you. Back right after this.

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BANFIELD: My thanks to Misty Marris and Joey Jackson. You have to fly off now. So bad. So bad. Thank you, everyone, for being here. Thank you, guys

for your expertise.

JACKSON: Thank you.

MARRIS: Thank you.

BANFIELD: We will see you back here at 8:00 tomorrow night for PRIMETIME JUSTICE. In the meantime, stick around because "FORENSIC FILES" starts

right now.

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