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U.K. Threat Level Raised To Highest Mark Of Critical; 22 People Killed In Manchester Attack Remembered; U.S. President Set To Meet Pope Francis; Ex-CIA Director Warns Of "Treasonous Path"; Trump's Budget Proposal Draws Mixed Reviews; "James Bond" Actor Roger Moore Dies; Manchester Tries to Heal. Aired 1-2a ET
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[01:00:00] ISHA SESAY, CNN ANCHOR: Hello and thank you for joining us. I'm Isha Sesay.
JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm John Vause in Los Angeles.
BECKY ANDERSON, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Becky Anderson in Manchester, in England for you. Well, Britain is on its highest alert after the deadly terror attack that the country has seen in more a decade. At least 22 people were killed, and dozens wounded in a suicide bombing outside an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester on Monday night. Children and teenagers are among the victim -- including an eight- year-old girl. Terror threat level is being raised -- critical here, the highest that it goes. And British Prime Minister, Theresa May, says another attack may be imminent.
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THERESA MAY, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: This morning, I said that the Joint Terrorism Analysis Center, the independent organization responsible for setting the threat level on the basis of the intelligence available, with keeping the threat level under constant review. It is now concluded on the basis of today's investigations, that the threat level should be increased for the time-being from severe to critical.
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ANDERSON: Well, police have identified the suicide bomber as 22-year- old, Salman Abedi. He was born in the U.K., but sources tell CNN he is of Libyan descent. Now, authorities raided at least two locations in Manchester on Tuesday -- including the bomber's home. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack but has offered no proof. Investigators say they are still trying to determine if Abedi acted alone.
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IAN HOPKINS, SENIOR BRITISH POLICE OFFICER: Our priority along with a police counterterrorist network and our security partners is to continue to establish whether he was acting alone or working as part of a wider network.
(END VIDEO CLIP) ANDERSON: We're learning more about some of the 22 people killed -- four of them have been identified so far. The mother of Olivia Campbell desperately looked for her daughter since the attack, we learned a few hours ago that the 15-year-old girl has died. Her mother wrote on Facebook, "Go sing with the angels and keep smiling. Mommy loves you so much." While the youngest victim identified so far is Saffie Rose Roussos, she was just eight-years-old. Her teacher describes her as quiet and unassuming with a creative flare.
18-year-old, Georgina Callander, was an Ariana Grande superfan. She met the pop star in 2015, and the day before the concert she tweeted at Ariana saying, "So excited to see you tomorrow." And a dance studio remembering 26-year-old, John Atkinson, as a "gentle person" and a real pleasure to teach. Well, Manchester, coping with devastating grief but many people are also demonstrating a powerful sense of resolve here, and an unwillingness to buckle under the weight of their shared sorrow.
ANDERSON: Moments of silence for Manchester, vigils held to the victims of Monday night's terror attack.
CORAL LONG, MOTHER OF A 10-YEAR-OLD SURVIVOR: The children went to see their idols and then have this, then, impacted the rest of their lives that this has been. These people are cowards.
ANDERSON: The city is in mourning, thus come together in an unshakable solidarity.
MAY: Let us remember those who died, and let us celebrate those who helped. Safe in the knowledge that the terrorist will never win.
ANDERSON: And there are many helpers to celebrate, from the rescuers to everyday service workers going above and beyond.
SAM ARSHAD, STREET CARS MANCHESTER OWNER: As the city, we come together at a difficult time last night which shows the the community spirit we have in hard times like this, instead of paving a way; we all came together from the taxi drivers to the takeaways, who are offering the free food, to hotels who were offering free accommodations.
[01:05:10] ANDERSON: Even those often overlooked, like Steve Jones, who is homeless lent a hand.
STEVE JONES, HOMELESS HELPER: This is one of the things, you know, it was just instinct to go and help, if someone needs to help. I know it was children, you know what I mean, and there was a lot of children looked all alone and then we saw everyone crying in the street. If I didn't help, I wouldn't be able to forgive myself for walking and leaving kids like that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We reach with all who are broken, hurt, and bereaved. ANDERSON: Clergy member led prayers in the street for victims and for
those who call Manchester: home. And citizens stand in solidarity that terror will not prevail.
ANDERSON: Well, CNN's Erin McLaughlin is live from the Manchester Royal Infirmary where many of the victims were taken after the bombing; and CNN's Nina dos Santos, is at 10 Downing Street in London for you viewers. And Nina, let's start with you, the British government has raised the terror threat level in the U.K. to critical. What more can you tell us about the government response?
NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN LONDON CORRESPONDENT: Well, the fact that it's at critical means that another attack could be imminent from here, which will probably because -- not just the people of Manchester but the rest of the U.K. It is a reminder that this is a national threat that we're facing here. But what's different from the previous two times, the only two other times that we've seen then national threat level at a level like critical, Becky, is that that was actually in response to specific information that authorities managed to use to thwart plots that were imminent at the time.
This seems to have been reactive to what happened in Manchester last year, because authorities, at this point, just can't ascertain whether this individual was acting alone or whether he had help. And until they can't piece together -- until they can manage to piece together all of that information, they're probably acting out sort of an abundance of caution that also trying to avoid anybody else are being tempted from engaging in any copycats attack anywhere else across the U.K.
As you point out that the only two other times that the threat level has been at critical it's only lasted for a few days back in 2006 and 2007. So, the big question is from here, as we're heading into a particularly sensitive time from a security perspective, which is the general election and campaigning eventually resumes. Will this threat level, say it critical or will come down to the level it was at before which is the second-highest, which is severe. Also, when we saw the Westminster terror attack that took place just around the corner from 10 Downing Street a couple of months ago; the threat level stayed severe.
So, this is obviously an indication of something slightly different, it'll also mean that will increase security presence on the streets of the United Kingdom and may these sporting events, concerts, and so on and so forth. And the army has crucially, Becky, been enrolled into helping armed police to try and guard some of these important sites and events as the country tries to keep things moving, but keep the people safe these days. Becky.
ANDERSON: Nina dos Santos is at 10 Downing Street for you. Erin, what more can you tell us about the victims of this terrible attack?
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We're learning more about the victims, Becky. 15-year-old, Olivia Campbell among those killed at the Ariana Grande concert -- she was there for a friend's birthday. She called her mother at 8:05 just before Ariana Grande was to take to the stage, she was so excited as she said that that music, up until that point, was fantastic. She said that she loved her mother and thanked her for the tickets. Her mother Charlotte, in a heartbreaking post, confirming her death writing: "RIP my darling precious girl -- gorgeous girl, Olivia Campbell, taken far, far, too soon. Go sing with the angels and keep smiling. Mummy loves you so much."
So many victims of this horrific attack, Becky, were children -- some 12 children admitted to the hospital just adjacent to one I'm standing in front of. All under the age of 16, we're told that many of these victims admitted to the hospitals suffering from life-threatening injuries will be in need of long-term care.
ANDERSON: Erin McLaughlin, at the hospital for you. Well, many people are calling this attack "especially heartless." Targeting teenage girls out for a night of fun. CNN's Randi Kaye, with this report.
RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR AND CORRESPONDENT: Teenagers and young children desperate to get out alive. Ariana Grande's young fans -- mostly girls suddenly targets of a suicide bomber.
LONG: Like there were children in there and in the sides. There was a little girl literally, standing in front of me, he was that long she has to stand on her feet to watch the concert.
[01:10:11] KAYE: For so many young fans, this was likely their first concert without their parents. So, imagine the chaos as the bomber detonated his explosives just as kids made their way towards the exit. Outside, parents who would drop their children off for the show, some like 15-year-old, Olivia Campbell, never showed up. She had called her mom earlier from the arena.
CHARLOTTE CAMPBELL, MOTHER OF OLIVIA CAMPBELL: She was waiting for Ariana to come out and she was so happy, and she thanked me and said she love me. And that was the last I heard from her.
KAYE: Charlotte Campbell's daughter had taken the metro to the show, a 20-minute train ride. Parents like her never imagined they might not their child again. And as concertgoers build on to the streets, this homeless man stepped in to help the children.
JONES: It was children, you know what I mean, and there was a lot of children with blood all over them and everything. We saw them crying and screaming.
KAYE: Terror is not something the pop star's young admirers were prepared for, and neither were their parents. First, there was fear after learning of the bombing, then guilt for letting their go to the show; the scariest night of their lives.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We said to each other -- we felt like we're going to die because you just run for your life.
KAREN FORD, WITNESS: There were children crying trying to get in contact with the parents, and the parents on their phone obviously were upset, they were crying trying to get in contact with the kids. It was just an awful, awful thing to witness.
KAYE: An awful thing to witness, in some cases for mothers and daughters alike, out for what had promised to be a memorable night together. For sure now, they'll never forget it.
LONG: She's just being crying, she's just doing these things happen to people, why do they keep doing this to people?
KAYE: Some, too young, too innocent to likely even understand this new reality -- they're parents know all too well.
KATIE WALTON, ATTENDED THE CONCERT: I feel sad and concerts have to be ruined by people that are so mean. And the Ariana Grande concert.
KAYE: Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.
ANDERSON: Nick Taylor is the Director of the Foundation for Peace, dedicated to preventing and responding to violent conflict. And Nick, you're from here?
NICK TAYLOR, FOUNDATION FOR PEACE DIRECTOR: Yes.
ANDERSON: I actually grow up here for some years, as a youngster. This is a city that is not unfamiliar with terror. Back in the 90s, a number of incidents here. It is a city though, that is resilient and will survive this.
TAYLOR: I think that's straight true, and I think that was resonated yesterday when he said that we should stand firm, and we should stand together. And indeed, our organization is crazy down to the terrorist happened just down the road from this city in 1993, when two young boys were killed. And the parents of those boys wants to make a difference, they wanted to stand up then and say this mustn't happen to anybody else. So, our work is vitally important over the next weeks, months, and years to actually help the city get back on its feet.
ANDERSON: You're right to point to out that the (INAUDIBLE), Chief Constable, yesterday; the Bishop of Manchester, all suggesting that the people here must stand together. Thanking to the world, really, for its -- for its share of solidarity as well. But where do you start? I mean, I've been around -- it feels like this is a city back on the move. It is a very diverse, very mixed city culturally. How will it hold itself together?
TAYLOR: Yes. I mean, today we're calling on people to stand together. It may just be a such an empty word at the moment, but actually, it's something that's solid as well where people can take actions. We saw that after the event with the response of local people opening their houses, queuing to give blood at hospitals, taxi drivers carrying people around the city. And if that resilience that makes a difference, and then helps people to feel strong-
ANDERSON: What have you learn over the years about what people need most in a situation like this?
TAYLOR: I mean, our organization is established by the British government to help victims that survive a terrorism, which quite some usual -- it's nothing like in Europe or beyond. And we work with other 500 people that were being impacted by incidents, including contemporary ones like the recent was in Westminster, all British nationals that are hurt. The main thing that we do is to help them to cope and recover, that's what we do.
ANDERSON: It was the -- and actually, we can bring up some of the images of what happened here yesterday, because this was the scene of the vigil held about 6:00 o'clock in the evening. And it was a fantastic sense of a city coming together. Tony Walsh, he was a poet here in Manchester; really evoking a sense of pride in the place as it really spoke about a city that has come from -- the built on such resilience. And I think that really helped.
[01:15:11] TAYLOR: It suddenly spoke for us all last night. It was such a passionate performance of that poem. For me, it was about when the people came on stage from all different faiths, all different backgrounds, all the cultures, spontaneous applause broke out here. I'm seeing a variety of people that were out here last night and people from different communities wanting to help, giving out bottles of water, food, hugging each other. It was just incredible.
ANDERSON: So, you sound as if you are relatively optimistic that the fallout from what this terrible, vile attack will not be a city divided. Correct?
TAYLOR: All right, correct, because its empire is both Foundation of Peace. We work in the right crossing off in England, in schools, in colleges, with women's group.
ANDERSON: But there are issues, right?
TAYLOR: There are huge issues. But we are just trying to tackle those things and we're making great improves. Most people do not want this that's happening. Most people go about their business every day, they show acts of kindness to themselves and to others, and that's what we really got through looking for now.
ANDERSON: We were alluding to the attacks back in the 90s caused by the IRA and thank you, Nic. And to you both Isha and John, it was interesting as I went about the city yesterday. I kept asking people, you know, how do you feel about this? British people could not believe that that attack was waged on kids in this city, on a Monday night at a concert. That was the sense; it was a total sense of shock. So, we consider those -- you know, we've been on a severe security alert in the U.K. for some time now, raised of course turned critical. People still go about their daily lives. These attacks are not
destroying people's sense of security, of pride in this country, but clearly, people terrified by what happened Monday night. Back to you guys.
VAUSE: Yes. And that sends a shock and disgust is being felt all around the world.
VAUSE: Because of, you know who killed and running around in cover was after the blast.
SESAY: Just the images, you know. That's terrible.
VAUSE: Becky, thank you.
SESAY: Thank you, Becky.
VAUSE: A lot more from you in the hours ahead. In the meantime, we will take a short break. When we come back, President Donald Trump is condemning the terror attack in Manchester, expressing it as early he can. Those details in a moment.
SESAY: Plus, a look back at the life and career of a legend, actor, Roger Moore. Do stay with us.
VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. The U.S. President, Donald Trump, set to meet with Pope Francis about an hour from now at the Vatican. These two haven't always gotten along. In a public feud last year, the Pope questioned Mr. Trump's Christian values. He responded by calling the Pope's criticism, disgraceful.
SESAY: But Pope Francis says he looks for areas where they can agree and the White House says religious freedom and humanitarian missions will be on the agenda. Mr. Trump will meet with Italian leaders before heading to Brussels, for a native summit.
[01:20:07] VAUSE: Mr. Trump had already made the fight against terrorism a set to beat at his first (INAUDIBLE). But Tuesday's deadly attack at Manchester, England, has had some new message, urgency rather to that message.
SESAY: He condemned the attack and the terrorist behind it in uniquely, shall we say, "Trumpian" terms. Take a listen.
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DONALD TRUMP, UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: So many young, beautiful, innocent people living and enjoying their lives, murdered by evil losers in life. I won't call them monsters because they would like that term. They would think that's a great name. I will call them from now on, losers because that's what they are. They're losers.
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SESAY: Well, CNN's Senior Political Analyst, Ron Brownstein, Democratic Strategist, Dave Jacobson, and Republican Consultant, John Thomas, are with us now. John, to you first. President Trump calling those behind the Manchester Arena attack losers. Are those the right words for this kind of moment?
JOHN THOMAS, REPUBLICAN CONSULTANT: You see, for me, I would focus on murderers. But if you take into context who Donald Trump is, I think that's actually the strongest, most damning term he could use because winning is everything for him. And if you're not winning, you're losing. So look, as far as Trump goes, that -- those are very strong words.
VAUSE: The problem is, Dave, he uses term loser to describe a lot of people. I mean, (INAUDIBLE). So --
DAVE JACOBSON, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: But it's authentic Donald Trump. I mean, I think this is the low of the low that Donald Trump thinks of people. And so, and look -- it's the flip opposite of powerful monster, you know, folks who are, you know, embodied by the ISIS movement. And so, I think to him, this is the authentic term that really embodies what really happened in Manchester.
SESAY: I think though, just to button up this issue of the language I think that the moment where you somehow look for your world leaders to say something, high-minded and to raise the tone.
JACOBSON: I just felt like that sounds Trump.
VAUSE: Ron, you relay on that?
RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: I think it's a little pure. I mean, I think that, you know, they're terrorism murderers and I think calling them losers, it just kind of demeans the whole that the seriousness of the whole thing. I mean, it's more than this are losers, these are murderers and there are a lot of losers in the world who are not murderers so I don't think it really in composes what we're dealing with.
VAUSE: OK. Well, the President is overseas; the Russian investigations continue all of them. We heard from the former CIA Director John Brennan, testifying before lawmakers on Tuesday. He did say that they were contact and there were repeated consistent contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives. He would not say if there was collusion, but he did say may be the Trump didn't know they were actually meeting with Russian spies. And then he added this to his testimony which was under oath. Listen to John Brennan.
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JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY DIRECTOR: Frequently, individuals who go along a treasonous path do not even realize there are longer path until it gets to be a bit too late. And that's why; again my radar goes up early when I see certain things that I know what the Russians are trying to do. And I don't know whether or not the targets of their efforts are as mindful of the Russian intentions is that need to be.
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VAUSE: So Ron, Brennan did not accuse anyone with actual treason but it was a remarkable comment in some very remarkable testimony.
BROWNSTEIN: I thought it was remarkable testimony, too. I thought it was a much more subjunctive and interesting and admonish than you would have anticipated from a public setting, leaving aside for a moment the question of obviously the central political question the U.S. of the collusion. He's just documenting of the extent of Russian activity to try to influence the election, the prospect of repeating it in 2018 or 2020, even raising the prospect that one point that other country's intelligence services had engaged in similar activity which is not something I ever heard before today and then obviously I think most important, saying that there was enough evidence of contact that there was sufficient reason to refer this to the FBI for further investigation.
I mean, that is a direct contravention of the President's repeated argument and this is all connected. This is all a witch hunt, this is all just Democratic sour bridge over losing the election. You now have the former CIA Director John Brennan, a former FBI Director James Comey both saying there is enough here to investigate even if we don't know exactly where the investigation will lead.
SESAY: Well John, you know, one doubtful it may change the President mind on this matter but when it comes to Republicans, do these common spy Brennan settled this argument of there's no effect?
THOMAS: Me and the honest Republicans that actually want to get to bottom of this. No, look we have to get to the end there. It appears to me that Flynn was a bad actor. We've got to suds that out, I think quickly so. I'm supportive of this. I think that the challenge for Republicans as we go forward is drift, drift, drift that continues on. It needs to end -- the investigation is concluded. I'm afraid it's not because there's so many twist and turns.
[01:25:22] SESAY: And you face about the drift, drift, drift, of what?
THOMAS: Well if my plan is the only -- the main bad actor, the only bad actor the collateral damage to the Republican Party as we go into the midterms could be much larger than just Michael Flynn.
JACOBSON: When you're -- you have already seen that rift with the Republican Party. You see Paul Ryan basically opposing the Donald Trump tax plans where he's got this sort of split in the party over the border adjustment tax. This is the first time we've seen an actual public split between Paul Ryan and the House and the Trump administration on sensitive policy and so I think that is -- I think Republicans smell blood and I think they see the President's numbers continuing to tick down and I think that adds experience to why they should push the lone agenda independent to the President. VAUSE: OK. Well, the business of government continues, the President's first budget towards the Congress has the two-turning counting error. This is the rounding error against the minacity. It also calls from the trillion dollars in cost of social services over the next 10 years. This is being criticized by both Democrats, Republicans, on the left and the right independent centers from Vermont. Bernie Sanders is among the many critics. This is what he said.
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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D), VERMONT: If I'm a Republican member of the House, do you really think I am looking forward to going home to whatever state I came from? And so, yes, I just voted for incredibly large tax breaks to billionaires. Oh by the way, are we going to cut head start in childcare and after school programs in healthcare, in education?
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VAUSE: So Ron, does Sanders know he could point here especially when it comes to those who are blue-collared Democrats who voted for Trump?
BROWNSTEIN: Yes. I mean, look, that's the risk, right? I mean, what -- one thing that is different about this budget is that unlike earlier Republican budgets, they completely exempt social security and more important, Medicare from cuts. And that is a reflection of the fact that the Republican coalition is now centered around all the whites. The majority of Donald Trump's votes came from whites over 45. Eighty percent of today's seniors who rely on those programs are white and they are more popular with the Republican base than the Republican leadership has led on in the past. But in part in service in this large tax cuts they want to propose, they are proposing significant, almost unprecedented reductions in everything else, not only in the domestic discretionary programs which fun in essence are investments in the productivity of future generations but a wide variety of income support programs from food stamps to social security disability that do in fact provide significant benefits for the blue- collared white voters at the core of the modern coalition as we talked about.
You look at all of the states, new data that I was able to publish today. You have all the states that tipped the election, particularly in the Mid-West, places like Idaho, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. A majority of those receiving food stamps are none college whites and that is the core of the Republican coalition. So, this is really going to test how -- what -- their ideology is kind of meeting the material interest of their coalition in a new way. Medicaid is the same kind of issue and we'll see whether they can hold together for cuts of anything approaching this magnitude and certainly will be as far as President Trump has proposed.
SESAY: And John, with the expectation of this budget, will come with the protracted fight in this part. What does this mean for the President's long-term goal of overhauling the tax code? I mean, it's that dead in the water when you look at the fight that's coming. THOMAS: I don't want to say it's dead in the water but --
VAUSE: But it's dead in the water.
THOMAS: No, no, no. It's definitely more difficult. Remember, Trump is trying to redefine what the role of the federal government is. So, Bernie Sanders is, you know, you're cutting programs here. Donald Trump doesn't think that the federal government should be giving all these handouts that we should be living with. Well, we should be lifting up people economically by helping the economy improve rather than giving them food stamps. So it's just a difference in vision.
JACOBSON: Budgets are a reflection of priorities. Donald Trump campaigned on a populous message to help poor and working class folks. That's the coalition that helped propel him to the White House. And now he's turning his back on those folks, he's embracing a slash and burn budget that's going to gut programs that help poor working class folks.
THOMAS: While the economy surges and more jobs are created.
VAUSE: None of these budgets --
SESAY: In terms of what economics? What policy proves that the economy's in a surge?
THOMAS: Well, stock market's been quite a, quite polished so far. So, manufacturing's up, housing starts arising.
VAUSE: These are the implications of tax which may or may not pass, so we'll see where that goes.
THOMAS: Correct. You have to get those taxes.
VAUSE: But there's also the truth on hold, the kind of the benefits of the tax cuts twice and it's missing $2 trillion. But you know --
SESAY: Two trillion, it's counted.
VAUSE: Rounding error.
THOMAS: You have Air Force One by two hundred million votes.
VAUSE: There you go. It's going to go a long way. Dave, thank you also, Ron Brownstein as well.
SESAY: John, thank you.
VAUSE: Thank you, guys.
[01:30:00] We appreciate that. Thank you.
SESAY: Quick break here. And we'll return to Becky Anderson in Manchester and tell you where the police investigation is going, coming up here on CNN.
SESAY: Hello, everyone. You're watching CNN's coverage of the U.K. terror attack. I'm Isha Sesay.
VAUSE: Thanks for staying with us. I'm John Vause in Los Angeles.
ANDERSON: And I'm Becky Anderson in Manchester in England.
We are hearing from people who were at the concert during those terrifying moments when the blast went off and panic surged through the crowd. Some say they worried whether or not they would make it out alive.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- we said to each other, we felt like we were going to die.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because you're just running for your life.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- your life flashes before you. (INAUDIBLE) just thing it's a (INAUDIBLE), honestly. It's just like scariest thing --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- we didn't know what it was. Like I run to my mom and I said, don't worry. It could have just been a little joke, like a prank or something.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But it wasn't.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) a boom, you know what I mean. And then it was sounded like three raccoons (ph). And then someone screamed, everyone started screaming. (INAUDIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We left, there was a (INAUDIBLE). There was like -- there was like (INAUDIBLE) probably like early teenagers all laying on the floor. They were like covered in blood and there's blood on the walls where the (INAUDIBLE) went.
But it was just (INAUDIBLE).
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ANDERSON: Well, in the aftermath of the attack, the U.K. raised its terrorism threat level to the maximum critical mark for the first time in a decade. Prime Minister Theresa May said intelligence services warned another attack could be imminent.
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THERESA MAY, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: We struggle to comprehend the warped and twisted mind that sees a room packed with young children not as a scene to cherish but as an opportunity for carnage.
But we can continue to resolve to thwart such attacks in future, to take on and defeat the ideology that often fuels this violence. And if there turn out to be others responsible for this attack, to seek them out and bring them to justice.
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ANDERSON: Police out in force, trying to gather as much information as they can about the suspected suicide bomber. Atika Shubert now reports a raid just kilometers from this, the arena bombing area.
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): An explosion shakes this --
SHUBERT (voice-over): -- quiet neighborhood in Manchester. A police- controlled detonation to gain access to the home of the man believed to be behind the Manchester bombing.
SHUBERT: Now this is the street where that raid took place. We've been speaking to neighbors and looking at public records. What we have been able to confirm is that the House, just a few houses down that street there, was the targeted home of Salman Abedi, the 22-year- old suspected attacker.
But other than his age and his name, police have not given us any other details.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can confirm that the man suspected of carrying out last night's atrocity is 22-year-old Salman Abedi. However, he has not yet been formally named by the coroner and I wouldn't wish to therefore comment any further about him at this stage.
Our priority, along with the police counterterrorist network and our security partners, is to continue to establish whether he was acting alone or working as part of a wider network.
SHUBERT (voice-over): CNN has since confirmed that Abedi was born in Britain to Libyan parents. A family friend described him as a lonely kid, who had become increasingly devout, dressing in long robes, traditional Islamic clothing.
He was enrolled as a business student at Salford University but he did not attend classes this year and was not known around campus. He was also a stranger to many of his neighbors.
Residents, shaken by the police radar, hoping there will soon be an explanation of what police found.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just heard a loud bang that kind of shot me out of my bed, shot me out of my bedroom as well and (INAUDIBLE) left seen about 50 to 75 different mixture, bomb squad, police, it looked like MI-5 in riot fatigue. It looked like they were about to raid a house.
About two minutes later, they all kind of stood to my right-hand side and went straight into the house. And this was all after the supposed controlled explosion.
SHUBERT (voice-over): Police also searched the home of Abedi's brother and arrested a 23-year-old man with links to the attack in the same area. One eyewitness describes to CNN how master darun (ph) police swooped in with a black van and plucked him off the street as he was walking near the tram station.
ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack, but has not issued any photos or video of suspect Salman Abedi. Exactly how the bombing was planned when explosives were used are all crucial clues police are not revealing to the public -- for now -- Atika Shubert, CNN, Manchester.
ANDERSON: Let's see if we can address some of those questions Joining me from Los Angeles, CNN law enforcement contributor, Steve Moore, and terrorism and political violence expert, Jeffrey Simon; from Belgrade, Serbia, security management consultant, Glenn Schoen (ph).
To all of you, thank you for joining me.
Let's start off with you, Steve. The government is to raise the threat level here to critical, suggesting they believe another attack may be imminent.
For law enforcement that means what in practical terms?
STEVE MOORE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CORRESPONDENT: Well, what it means actually the law enforcement was the one who advised the government, I am sure, to do this. What it should tell us all is the government has not accounted for all the weapons, the potential explosives, and haven't wrapped up all the people who might be part of this plot.
And they know that from -- history tells us that the people who are left behind in a cell now have no reason to hold off on any potential attack up until now. They might have been waiting for the best chances of success, but it is very possible in situations like this that they have nothing to lose in going forward and expending all their weapons they still have.
ANDERSON: Jeffrey going about, trying to nail down whether Salman Abedi was a lone attacker or was working with others is clearly absolutely critical. We heard that from the chief constable here in Manchester.
Just walk us through what they do next. JEFFREY SIMON, AUTHOR: Well, they are going to be -- they already have the information from his social media, looking at what kind of things he had tweeted or what other material he had, what contacts he may have had. So they'll make a determination if there are other people involved, who they are, what role they took place in and so forth.
The question, though, is -- that's going to come up in the next few days, whether he acted alone with other people is how did they all become radicalized?
We hear these whole words about the radicalization process. But we do not know yet what makes somebody who let's say is not violent make the decision to become violent.
What are those tipping points?
And that is a critical question for both lone wolves and for the larger cells.
ANDERSON: Glen, we know very little about the attack there. What we do know is that he was 22. He was believed --
ANDERSON: -- to be of Libyan descent; may or may not have relatives back in Libya, possibly his father there.
So just walk us through the sort of tentacles on this, I mean, the attack clearly in the northwest of England here in Manchester. But it may extend way across borders.
GLENN SCHOEN, SECURITY MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT: Absolutely, it's -- after we've heard this horrible news and we're looking out sort of where the threads of the investigation, there is sort of this strategic element to who this person is and what the role was.
And of course one of the key questions here is after France, where we saw an attempt last month to influence the elections, if this is part of a larger strategic effort to do the same here in the U.K.. There is a dimension of looking at the fact, somebody's literally by where the attack took place spreading the threat throughout the U.K..
We've had of course arrests elsewhere in London but this is the first big incident we've had outside of the British capital, which means the British now sort of are looking at a much broader picture in terms of their resources and law enforcement, now that we're at this critical stage.
When we draw that all way back to the defendant, one of the key questions of course becomes here was this part of a network and was this person part of a network that was built locally or already to some extent was directed from or set up overseas.
In other words, are there lines back to a command and control center? Obviously the Libyan angle is of great interest because it is the first time we have seen any of these larger attacks in Europe with the line very direct with a Libyan angle, or at least in terms of nationality and a key question there is does it mean much for not in looking towards the future.
ANDERSON: Steve, what are the other critical questions that law enforcement will be asking themselves at this point?
MOORE: One of the most critical questions they're asking is where did the explosives come from, what explosives were used?
Because these are part of the fingerprint of the different terrorist groups. As we were talking yesterday, the ISIS groups tend to be trained with TATP, which is peroxide, acetone type of explosive, that can be made in your own kitchen if you are careful and do not kill yourself.
The Al Qaeda groups use different types and so knowing what type of explosive and knowing what type of triggering device was used will be a signature of a particular group.
ANDERSON: Jeffrey, we talked about returning radicalized young men and women. We've talked about this sort of export of jihadism from some of the hotspots around the world. Libya, if it plays into this, is and could be significant going forward.
You don't have to have come recently from one of those countries that one might consider a hotspot of Islamist extremism these days to be inspired by those who are fighting on the ground do you?
SIMON: We are definitely seeing in terms of what is happening to ISIS in Iraq and Syria in terms of losing the territory eventually will be defeated. They are making more of these calls for individuals to take action wherever and whenever they can.
And as they move out of Iraq and Syria, there will be a lot of these jihadists returning to their home country. So unfortunately what we have seen in Manchester is a trend that we've seen in other countries in recent years and is going to continue to grow and it's a -- related to this whole power, I still believe, of the Internet because when you make those calls out, posting videos or making messages to take action, people respond.
It's like spam e-mail. You sent out 1 million spam emails. You need just a small percentage to take the bait. Unfortunately, there are those people ready and willing to do that.
ANDERSON: Glenn, let's just consider exactly what happened finally on Monday night, kids enjoying themselves. A big night out at a pop concert. It was at the end of the concert, not at the beginning or during it that this attack took place.
And one of the commentators on CNN yesterday, I think it may have been the mayor of Manchester, said we may have to look at security as people leave events just as we have been considering around the world as a result of these attacks, security as people going.
SCHOEN: It's a particularly pernicious (INAUDIBLE) complex that --
SCHOEN: -- we have to engage in now. Absolutely ingress and egress of major events, consider that, of course, when we look at morning commutes to places where people gather, we have large masses of people.
It's not just singular events; it's what we see in daily routines in larger cities. All the security efforts for roughly the past year and a half in Europe after particularly the incident at the Bataclan and Stade de France in November 2015 in Paris have been directed at how you make a harder shell, if you will, around event locations.
And with that, of course, here we see the threat move to an area where, perhaps in the foyer, this might have been stopped if we would have had something right at the entry point.
But we're simply going to have to be shifting defenses out. It also means we need the intervention power, if you will, to do something about it. And this is where the big problem comes in. There simply too many events taking place in too many venues in too many cities for police and for security agencies to be effective against such a hard threat.
So remember this is a terrible reminder because, in the U.K. it's the first suicide bomb attack in a while. It's not a vehicle attack, not a knife attack.
So you are also dealing with the type of attack that was taking place here.
ANDERSON: Gentlemen, I'm going to leave it there. We thank you very much indeed, all of you, for what has been expert analysis.
And to you guys in L.A., I guess the issue is this, isn't it, how do you secure these what I guess we should be calling soft targets, but what we should -- well, they are, actually. It's just events, right? These are -- without freaking people out? And these are the sorts of things as Glenn rightly pointed out, these are going on night after night in cities around the world.
It should be that kids can go to see Ariana Grande and others and feel safe and secure that they'll have just a really good time.
SESAY: -- equation, that equation right between freedom and changing your life and then security just changing everything we know about how we move around in the world and how we exist. It's a --
(CROSSTALK) VAUSE: And, you're right, kids should be safe wherever they go. But that clearly was not the case --
SESAY: -- Becky.
VAUSE: -- thank you, Becky.
SESAY: Thank you.
VAUSE: We'll take a short. When we come back, we'll take a look back at the life of the legendary actor, Roger Moore. Stay with us.
SESAY: He was the actor who brought dapper, suave to the James Bond movies. But now at 89, Roger Moore has died in Switzerland, according to his family. He had been battling cancer.
VAUSE: He was the secret agent with a twinkle in his eye, always ready with a cool one-liner and will forever be at the center of an age-old debate: was he the best or the worst James Bond?
VAUSE: Here's CNN's Sara Sidner.
SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Before he was Bond, Sir Roger Moore was just plain old Roger, the only child of a policeman and homemaker mother, growing up in South London.
ROGER MOORE, ACTOR: If it hadn't been for them, I couldn't have been an actor. They had to support me while I was studying, was studying, you know, when I was -- during the war.
SIDNER (voice-over): At age 18, at the end of World War II, he was conscripted for national service. He was stationed in West Germany, where he looked after the entertainers who were passing through Hamburg to perform for servicemen.
Before his stint in the military Moore attended drama school at the Royal Academy and, once the war was over, he got a jumpstart on his acting career.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Look out for your hearts, girls. This Roger Moore is going places.
(END VIDEO CLIP) SIDNER (voice-over): By 1954, he had signed a contract with MGM. But after a string of flops, such as the box office bust, "Diane," starring Lana Turner, he was released after only two years.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ivanhoe!
SIDNER (voice-over): It was in television where Moore first made a name for himself. In 1958 he starred as the lead character in the British TV series, "Ivanhoe...
MOORE: I am Sir Ivanhoe.
And who stops me (INAUDIBLE) on the open highway?
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SIDNER (voice-over): -- then went on to star in U.S. TV westerns, "The Alaskans" and "Maverick."
Ironically, it was Sean Connery who was originally offered the "Maverick" role but he turned it down.
Moore's big break came when he was cast as Simon Templar in the long- running British mystery series, "The Saint."
It lasted six seasons and turned Moore into an international star.
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MOORE: The only way Grandel (ph) will be tied to that bombing is if someone backs him up against a wall and beats a confession out of him.
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SIDNER (voice-over): It also showed off his cool demeanor and quick wit, trades he would catch the eye of Albert Broccoli, famed producer of the James Bond films.
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MOORE: My name's Bond, James Bond.
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SIDNER (voice-over): Moore became the third actor to play the spy in the film franchise after Sean Connery and George Lazenby. But he is perhaps one of the most memorable, playing in more Bond films than any other.
MOORE: Well, you did sort of get used to it after you've said, "My name is Bond, James Bond," 400 times.
SIDNER (voice-over): He had a playful, satirical approach to the role; whereas Sean Connery was serious and sophisticated, Moore was the comical, charming ladies' man.
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MOORE: I'm looking for Dr. Goodhead.
LOIS CHILES, ACTOR, "HOLLY GOODHEAD": You just found her.
MOORE: A woman.
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MOORE: I would say that Sean (ph) was the killer and I was the lover.
SIDNER (voice-over): Roger Moore's first film of the famous five, 1973's "Live and Let Die;" it saw him traipsing through Harlem and the jungles of the Caribbean on the tail of a bad guy, Mr. Big.
Audiences laughed in the theater who says Moore's Bond went toe to toe with the impossible villain, Jaws, in "The Spy Who Loved Me." Critics would liken its fantasy action sequence with that of "Star Wars."
With the arch of an eyebrow, the smooth star's take on Bond attracted new audiences.
MOORE: They saw things they didn't see in their everyday life. And then you mix that up with beautiful girls, with great adventure, the old hero story, the white knight.
SIDNER (voice-over): Moore would make his final appearance as 007 in 1985's "A View to a Kill," after which she would only act sporadically. Instead, he turned his attention to charity work. He became a UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador in 1991 and has participated in campaigns for the animal rights group, PETA.
Despite his change in focus, the actor always credited his most famous role for catapulting him to greater influence.
MOORE: I'm terribly lucky. I don't know why, why I should have been selected to be sort of the love shine upon them. But I always kept working. I sort of had some -- many happy moments.
ANDERSON: Residents here in Manchester in the north of England are trying very stronger to get up. On Tuesday, hundreds gathered here in Albert Square for a vigil for the victims.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People of Manchester, from all communities, have come together at this vigil to condemn last night's atrocity, to remember the victims, many of them children and other young people and to express solidarity with the families.
The people of Manchester will remember the victims forever and we will defy the terrorists by all our diverse communities working together cohesively and with mutual respect.
Our grief can help us to draw close to those who've lost loved ones. We will pull through the events of last night because we will stand together.
Whatever our background, whatever our religion, whatever our beliefs or our politics, we will stand together. As we say that, we're sending a signal not just to Manchester, but across the world that you cannot defeat us because love, in the end, is always stronger than hate.
As people, whatever faith, please pray for us, hold us in your thoughts, your hearts. We have also welcomed the world into our hearts to see us grieve and to know that our grief will not destroy us but will remake us. Thank you for being Manchester.
ANDERSON: (INAUDIBLE) words.
You're watching CNN's special coverage of the Manchester terror attack. I'm Becky Anderson. We will take a very short break, back with more after this.