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ISIS Claims Responsibility for Central London Attack; 7 Killed, 48 Injured in London Terror Rampage; 4 Nations Cut Ties with Qatar Over Support of Terrorism; Music's Biggest Stars Honor Manchester Victims. Aired 12-1a ET
Aired June 5, 2017 - 00:00 ET
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[00:00:14] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: Hello and welcome to our viewers around the world. I'm John Vause in Los Angeles.
HANNAH VAUGHN JONES, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Hannah Vaughn Jones live for you in London where developments are fast moving here in the British capital, of course, in the aftermath of Saturday night's terror attack.
The media wing of ISIS is claiming responsibility for Britain's third militant attack in as many months however the terror group is offering no evidence to back up its claim. Police have carried out raids in East London on Sunday. They made 12 arrests in total and later one man was released.
18 minutes of deadly violence began when this rental van drove into crowds of pedestrians on London Bridge not too far from where I'm standing. Police say the suspects then jumped out and went on a stabbing rampage in the nearby borough market.
Eight officers then fired an unprecedented 50 shots to kill the three attackers who appeared to be wearing suicide belts, the belts, it turned out were fake.
In all, seven people were killed and many more wounded. One of them who was killed was Chrissy Archibald, she was from Canada. 48 people at the most -- 48 people were wounded, many of them critically, all being treated in hospitals not too far from where I am.
The terror and chaos is clear in the video that a local baker shot. We warn you those graphic -- the images are graphic.
You can see there police officers helping the wounded, all the emergency services on the scene so very quickly and passersby as well caught up in this rampage all trying to help out, those who have been affected by this terror attack late on Saturday night.
Jonathan Wood joins me now. Jonathan is a terrorism expert with Controlled Risk, an independent consulting company that specializes in security risks. Thanks for joining us -- Jonathan.
Let's talk first of all about this ISIS claim of responsibility. No evidence so far that that might be true. Is there any credibility at all in it?
JONATHAN WOOD, CONTROLLED RISKS: Certainly in many of the claims that the Islamic state has made for these types of attacks and that would include the two previous incidents here in the U.K. -- they haven't provided any evidence. And it's been the work of police investigation and intelligence to find out whether or not those connections actually exist.
We shouldn't expect them to necessarily offer evidence. It doesn't mean that the attackers in this case were not motivated by sympathy with the Islamic state even if they didn't have any concrete linkages or communications with what we might term Islamic state (inaudible) outside of the country.
JONES: It begs the question though, doesn't it, about what we know about the attackers and what may have been their motivation? Is there any detail so far about their age, where they're from -- anything like that?
WOOD: The police haven't released any of those details yet. We do know that -- or they have said that they are believed to be residents in east London. It makes it more likely that they're perhaps British citizens or British residents who have carried out this attack as a homegrown attack as opposed to being individuals that have come from outside the country to carry out this attack here in London.
JONES: We saw in Manchester just a couple of weeks ago there was so much criticism really of the fact that there were leaks in the investigation in the very early stages which seemed to be hampering somewhat the police investigation.
Are we seeing the same sort of thing or a different thing rather actually playing out here largely because the metropolitan police have been quite quiet so far? I mean, we're already 24 hours on, but relatively quiet in terms of the information that is being put out to the press and the public?
WOOD: There certainly has been an appeal by the police to be cautious and deliberate both in terms of releasing out such information and that includes social media, videos and photos and type of thing and to avoid speculating on the identities of these individuals to aid the investigation and to make sure that if there are any wider networks here in the U.K. or abroad that it can be explored deliberately and comprehensively without perhaps tipping off those individuals.
JONES: Interesting you mentioned social media, technology -- this is one of the areas that the Prime Minister Theresa May picked -- pointed out herself saying that we need to clamp down on the platform that these technology companies allegedly or presumably then provide to would-be jihadists and terrorists around the world. Any response from the tech companies themselves?
WOOD: I haven't seen anything specific in the wake of this incident although certainly this is an issue that they take seriously and in the wake of previous attacks have stated their intention to seek other ways technologically and otherwise to police the type of content from these organizations.
[00:04:57] Obviously it's very difficult and with the claim of responsibility by Islamic state; and in this case it was made through an encrypted communications application. And certainly in many of the recent attacks here in Europe, here in the U.K. this use of encrypted technology and encrypted communications is something that is increasingly showing up as an operational feature of this type of -- this current wave of terrorism.
JONES: And three attackers. There have been a number of raids, a number of arrests already made in the investigation. Is it your understanding that these three attackers would have been working within a cell, either it's just the three of them or four of the slightly wider cell operating out of east London?
WOOD: It seems likely at this point given the nature of the incident, the low tech nature, if you like of vehicle, knifes and fake suicide vests if this was a smaller cell perhaps operating without external assistance. And this may distinguish it from the Manchester bombing where the individual does appear to have received some type of training conducive to manufacturing that device to carry out that type of attack.
Typically we would see those capabilities, the ability to manufacture a viable improvised explosive device, something that is more associated with foreign terror organizations as opposed to this type of attack -- knife attack, in particular which tend to be more associated with homegrown extremism.
JONES: Ok. Jonathan -- I know you're going to stay with us for the next couple of hours and bring us your expertise. Thank you for that for now.
And while it is the early hours of Monday morning here in London, it is pretty cold but it's also a lovely summer's morning really as well. And London is really getting back to normal. There have been a lot of criticism about some of the press reports saying that London is reeling from this attack. Other people saying we've been through the blitz, we've been through plenty worse as well and we're not reeling. We're just getting on with normal life as well. And certainly London is heading back to work this morning very much determined in their resilience and their defiance in the face of such terror.
I want to toss back now to my colleague, John Vause, who's in Los Angeles with the rest of the days' news -- John.
VAUSE: Yes, absolutely -- Hannah.
Well, in the hours after the London attack, U.S. President Donald Trump took to Twitter to again call for his controversial travel ban on visitors from six mostly-Muslim countries. He warned against political correctness and he picked a fight with London's mayor.
After spending Sunday at his golf club in Virginia, his 26th visit to one of his clubs since taking office, the President had a much softer tone at a Washington social event. Just a few hours ago telling the audience he had called the British prime minister to offer unwavering support.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: America sends our thoughts, our prayers and our deepest sympathies to the victims of this evil slaughter. And we renew our resolve, stronger than ever before, to protect the United States and its allies from a vile enemy that has waged war on innocent life and it's gone on too long.
This bloodshed must end. This bloodshed will end.
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VAUSE: Joining me now, editor-in-chief of the Foreign Desk, Lisa Daftari. So Lisa -- the U.S. President, he went on to say he will do everything he can to stop this threat, in his words, from reaching our shores. But isn't the threat already in the U.S.?
LISA DAFTARI, FOREIGN DESK: Somewhat. But what he's referring to is any direct threat that's coming directly from the Islamic state; meaning if they're sending any operatives over from Syria, from Iraq -- those who are trained in the caliphate to come over.
But you're absolutely right in saying there's also a threat that already exists within all 50 states, as we know from our FBI investigations. I think what the message here -- what's important to say is that this could actually be a very hopeful moment for the global community to fight this enemy, particularly in the United States. Put left and right aside, anti-Trump, pro Trump aside and say that this is an enemy that we can all face and all should come together, especially coming off of Trump's somewhat successful trip to Saudi Arabia, to the region, where we can say, you have Arab leaders of the Muslim world now coming together with the west to fight this extremism and to hopefully prevent against attacks like the one in London.
VAUSE: That certainly is the positive take on all of this and clearly what most people will be hoping for. I guess we'll see how that plays out.
I want to move on to the ISIS claim of responsibility here, in particular the wording they used. They said a detachment of their fighters carried out this attack. Have they used this wording before in particular, "detachment of fighters"?
DAFTARI: This is coming from an Arabic translation. So the word "detachment" is probably very, very important in saying that don't differentiate between directed or inspired, meaning in the west we have this habit of going after, well was it directly from ISIS or was this inspired? Was this a lone wolf, was this homegrown terrorism?
[00:09:59] And what ISIS is trying to do is saying look, it's all the same because it's coming from us. This is our ideology, we put out the message. And this is very -- we know as the investigation goes on that these individuals have been planning this for a very long time. And officials had been monitoring their use of YouTube to say that they wanted to do a van and knife attack in London. Now, when they would launch this attack they did not know. It was very much targeted to do this in the time of Ramadan, in the holiday of Ramadan which we are in right now.
There was a directive by ISIS specifically to launch these local attacks during the month of Ramadan. So by using this word "detachment", they're saying don't try to differentiate between if these men come directly from the caliphate, was it directed by ISIS, was this inspired by ISIS. It's all the same and we're claiming responsibility.
VAUSE: But we should note, ISIS has offered no evidence to back up their claims and there's even, you know, some reporting they got the date wrong on all of this and they have claimed other attacks before that, you know, they had nothing to do with it.
DAFTARI: Right. So are we taking their word for it or are we going to ask them for some sort of pledge where these individuals say that they are part of ISIS? We have this situation in the Philippines where we're not sure whether it was ISIS or not. Local police say it wasn't. ISIS claims that it was.
Well, of course, ISIS is going to jump on, you know, piggyback off of any attack right now to kind of gain credibility for themselves and their terror organization and say look at all these attacks that we've had, especially during the month of Ramadan.
I think right now, are we going to take their word for it? It did look like an ISIS-type of attack especially since they were inspiring people in the west, their supporters to use whatever means possible meaning ISIS has basically coined this do-it-yourself jihadi-101.
You don't need a bomb. You don't need a suicide vest. You can use any everyday item like a car to ram into crowds of people. You can use a kitchen knife to stab as many people as possible.
They actually have tutorials on this on YouTube where you can use a kitchen knife. We'll show you where to stab individuals in vital organs to cause the most damage. We'll show you how to use a car to ram into these soft targets to kill as many people as possible.
They used the bridge here. Why? Because people can't run out of the way; they're basically trapped. So this is all material that we're seeing from ISIS on social media all the time. I watch this. I track this on a daily basis. And basically once the attack happened, it took more than 24 hours for ISIS to claim but it definitely looks like it had all the signs of an ISIS attack.
VAUSE: Which is British Prime Minister Theresa May says something has to be done in particular cyber space. It should not be a safe space for jihadi groups like is.
Lisa -- as always, good to see you. Thank you so much.
DAFTARI: Of course. Thank you.
VAUSE: So Hannah -- of course, you know, everyone just wants to know who is actually behind this. Who carried this out? When we find out the who, we may find out the why.
But in the meantime, there are some incredible stories of courage.
JONES: There really are -- John. As we saw in Manchester just a couple weeks ago and then here again in London in the aftermath of Saturday's attack.
In the midst of this tragedy the stories of heroism are coming thick and fast. One eyewitness who was in Borough Market as the stabbing spree began described to CNN how restaurant workers risked their own lives to get their customers to safety.
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RICHARD ANGELL, EYEWITNESS: I then saw a guy opposite throw a table at someone. It's unclear about what that meant. It turned out it's this heroic guy who saw what these guys were doing. He threw glasses at them. He threw tables at them just to try and stop them hurting this poor young woman who they were stabbing. He was remarkable. He was one of the heroes of the day.
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JONES: Just one of the many stories that we're hearing in the aftermath of the attack. We're also learning, of course, more about the victims of the London terror attack. Some are still being treated at King's College Hospital.
And our Erin McLaughlin is there for us. Erin -- what can you tell us about the injuries sustained?
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Hannah.
Well, as you mentioned there, we're beginning to learn the identities of the victims killed in the attack. We're hearing from the family Chrissy Archibald. She was a Canadian national. She moved to Europe to be with her fiance.
According to her fiance's brother, she was killed on the bridge, struck by the van. He said that medical services did everything possible to try to save her life but tragically she died.
Her family is in shock. They have put out a statement. Let me read you part of what they had to say. This is what they want you to know about Chrissy Archibald. "We grieve the loss of our beautiful, loving daughter and sister. She had room in her heart for everyone and believed strongly that every person was to be valued and respected. She lived this belief working in a shelter for the homeless until she moved to Europe to be with her fiance. She would have had no understanding of the callous cruelty that caused her death."
[00:15:08] The statement goes on to ask people to honor her memory by volunteering or donating to homeless shelters.
We're also hearing more about the injured -- some 36 people being treated, 21 critically. 23-year-old Daniel O'Neill (ph) was stabbed at the Borough Market. CNN managed to speak to his mother, who is here outside the hospital yesterday. Take a listen to what she had to say about her son, Daniel.
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ELISABETH O'NEILL, MOTHER OF LONDON ATTACK SURVIVOR: He was in shock and he said, "I don't think work will believe that this has happened. I'm going have to go in on Monday." He was in shock.
I said because you don't believe it's happened, Daniel. You think other people are going to find it hard. He feels very bad that he's alive, while others have died.
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MCLAUGHLIN: We're also hearing the nationalities of the victims -- Canadian, French, Australian; the Australian prime minister saying that two of the injured are from his country. Also saying that they had very real concerns about two other Australian nationals -- Hannah.
JONES: Erin, thanks very much, indeed. Erin's outside one of the hospitals where she's just describing many of the injured are still being treated and many of them still in a critical condition.
I'm live here in the heart of London. We've just got -- (inaudible) bridge to my right hand side and behind me the London Bridge. You can see also the floral tributes and the police presence as well really building up here this Monday morning.
But coming up on the program, they were on the scene within minutes -- how police handled Saturday's terror attack in London.
And Germany is showing its support. The Brandenburg Gate in Berlin was lit up in the union flag, to stand in solidarity against terror.
Plenty more of our coverage of the London attacks after this break.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The taxi driver just swerved towards me and (inaudible) said run, you have to run. They've got a knife. His face was just like something was very wrong. So I just started running as fast as I could.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I saw quite a lot of city police and they were chasing people across the bridge -- this was normal civilians, normal pedestrians -- over the bridge screaming at them to run, run, run for your lives, terror.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I plead with people not to be scared and not to be angry. This is exactly what those people want us to feel. We have to stand together. (END VIDEO CLIP)
[00:19:56] JONES: Defiance here in London -- that was in the aftermath of the attack. Some of the people who were right in the thick of it as the attack unfolded saying that they will not be cowed. And that is really the spirit here.
It's about 20 past 5:00 in the morning local time here this Monday. And London is really whirring into action again -- bikers going past going to work, trucks going past, cars and very much not being cowed by the events of Saturday night. We are though hearing from some of the witnesses of the terror attack in London.
At least seven people were killed, another 48 were wounded, many of them in a critical condition still in hospital. ISIS is claiming responsibility for the attack but there's been no evidence to support that claim.
The attack itself started at around 10:00 p.m. local Saturday night. That's when a van rammed into pedestrians on London Bridge. The van then crashed just past the south end of the bridge. Three men left the van on foot and stabbed people in restaurants in the popular Borough Market. And at 10:16 p.m., police say they shot and killed the attackers.
Glenn Schoen is a security management consultant and terrorism expert. Glen joins us live from The Hague via Skype. Thank you for joining us, sir.
I want to ask you first about the police response. It's been described as unprecedented in the fact that they took out these three attackers with 50 -- I think it was 50 bullets. Would you say that that is unprecedented compared to previous attacks that we've seen and police responses?
GLENN SCHOEN, SECURITY MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT: I think it's only unprecedented in terms of the number of officers engaged. When we look at the actual number of rounds fired, which Assistant Commissioner Rowley has noted as around 50, that's actually not that high a number.
If you think of the type of situation they're in, the mix of firearms that these people had, which would be handguns combined with longer weapons and submachine guns, the actual number of rounds expended on three different targets who are mobile is actually when we look at other counter-terrorist operations in other theaters not that high a number. I mean what's surprising to me is the discipline of the use of firearms. It sounds like an awful lot of violence, it is an awful lot of violence but in a situation in which three men are assumed to be having bomb vests actually when we compare it with other incidents, we're looking at one that doesn't stand out for, so to speak, frivolous or uncontrolled shooting but rather a lot of discipline on the part of the officers involved.
JONES: I want to ask you about the broader security apparatus in and around London as well. We heard from the Prime Minister Theresa May yesterday saying that enough is enough and that something does need to change in terms of the approach.
We're also learning that on London Bridge just behind me they are now erecting security barriers but they weren't in place before. Do you think there has been a failing somewhere along the line in Britain's security apparatus?
SCHOEN: Not necessarily. I mean we have to understand we're facing an unprecedented surge in attacks across Europe, not just in the U.K. with these last three incidents. You're looking at a threat volume of potential actors here that runs into the thousands. And the variables or the manner in which these attacks can take place know a very wide scope.
So it's obvious that thinking needs to be done here. How can we secure a public domain better against certain types of attacks? Part of that is reactive; what we just talked about law enforcement officers. Part of it will be medical. Part of it will be communications. Part of it will be able to do a quick shutdown of an area.
But clearly we need to start thinking somewhat in the preventive mode here further and definitely barriers of different kinds might become a part of that mix at some of the most likely targets. And of course, bridges now on multiple occasions have proven to be vulnerable so it's logical that we're going to see a rethink. But it doesn't necessarily mean that we need to do very hard finger-pointing now at what's transpired in the weeks prior.
JONES: Yes. It will be interesting won't it, Glen, to see how the public responds as well to an increased police presence on the streets? We saw after the Manchester attacks that there was the army presence from the streets as well. And of course, as you say if we do get these permanent security barriers up that does seem to then inflict on or impress on our way of life which is something that London hasn't particularly been so strong to say that that will not happen.
Glen Schoen, my appreciation to you. Thank you for joining us on the program.
We are covering the story in depth, of course, in the aftermath of Saturday's terror attack; many more angles of the story as well.
I will pass now back to John Vause, my colleague in Los Angeles -- John.
VAUSE: Hannah -- thank you.
[00:24:57] Well, the first police call went out Saturday night at eight minutes past 10:00, local time. By 10:16, just eight minutes later, all three attackers were dead; an incredibly quick response which has been widely praised across Britain.
Officials say when armed police arrive on the scene they fired an unprecedented 50 rounds at the terrorists who appeared to be wearing suicide vests. Those explosives later they turned out to be fake.
But before those shots were fired, a lone transport police officers armed only with a baton took on the attackers. He's in a serious but stable condition after suffering stab wounds to the head, face and leg.
There's a lot to talk to right now. CNN's law enforcement contributor and former FBI agent Steve Moore joins us now.
Steve -- essentially this one lone police officer confronted the three attackers. He did not know at that point the explosives strapped to the terrorists were fake. Someone like yourself in law enforcement, you know it's your job but still it took an incredible amount of courage and bravery to do what he did.
STEVE MOORE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTRIBUTOR: Incredible amount. He has my admiration. There's a saying in law enforcement, don't bring a gun to a knife fight. Well, don't bring a truncheon to a machete fight. This guy probably as he approached knew that the odds against him surviving were extremely low yet it didn't seem to slow him down.
And this is the finest tradition of law enforcement, knowing that you put on the badge, you decided to do this and your calling is to save the innocent. And he did that with great risk to his own life.
VAUSE: Yes. Ok. Well, this attack comes just two weeks after the suicide bombing in Manchester. Officials say there's no link between the two. But the British Prime Minister talked about terrorism breeding terrorism and all this seems to be amplified by the Internet and by social media.
MOORE: It does. And see John -- it's not just the tactics that they're learning on the Internet, it's not the radicalization they're getting but they're learning things like strategy. Like, if you have one terrorist attack in a year, that's really bad. If you have one every six months, that's really bad. But if you have two within a week you don't just double the terror, you expand it exponentially.
So what's happening is when one terrorist attack occurs, it is the signal not as a copycat but to magnify and amplify the terrorist result of the first attack.
VAUSE: And specifically about this attack, on the one hand it seems to be very familiar, the tactic of using a truck as a weapon and using knives as well. But there is also this level of sophistication, the explosives, the suicide vests which turned out to be false and also this sort of a new tactic of a secondary attack being carried out.
MOORE: Yes, this is -- the British again, I don't know if anybody is better than they are as far as terrorism response, and terrorism strategy. They have identified this type of attack that we first started seeing in France and Belgium, the marauding attack where you don't just have a single person with a bomb. You have a van, you strike people with your vehicle. You go somewhere else and create a second attack. And so what you're getting is one person can essentially create two or three terrorists attacks. I think the lack of sophistication here was that all three were at the same place doing the same thing which kind of negated a lot of that. But this is the new face terrorism. They are going to use every part of the situation they can to kill people.
VAUSE: Ok, Steve. Thank you -- I think.
VAUSE: Steve Moore for us -- yes, law enforcement contributor. Thanks -- Steve.
We will take a short break.
When we come back, we will hear from a faith leader about the deadly terror attack which shut down Central London.
Also ahead some of the biggest names in music paid tribute to the victims of the Manchester terror attack.
Short break. We'll be back in a moment.
[00:32:00] JONES: Welcome back to Central London. Of course, covering the aftermath of the terror atrocity that we saw on Saturday night.
London is really getting back to action again this Monday morning. There are plenty of vehicles around, just people making their way to work, getting on with normal life.
And we will update you with the latest on the investigation, though, itself and claims of responsibility.
The media wing of ISIS is saying that it was responsible for Britain's third militant attack in as many months. However, the terror group is offering no evidence to back that claim at this stage.
Police carried out raids in East London on Sunday, in total making 12 arrests although one man was later released. 18 minutes of deadly violence began when this rental van drove into crowds of pedestrians on a busy Saturday night on London Bridge.
Police say the suspects then jumped out and went on a stabbing rampage in the popular nearby borough market. Eight officers fired and unprecedented 50 shots to kill the attackers who at the time appeared to be wearing makeshift suicide belt. It turns out that those belts were indeed fake.
While seven people have lost their lives, one of them was Christine Archibald from Canada. 48 other people wounded.
I want to bring in now Mustafa Field, who is the director from the Faith Forum London joining us. Thanks very much for joining us, Mustafa. We appreciate it.
Tell us about your organization and the response that you've had from the people that you work with within the organization and the aftermath.
MUSTAFA FIELD, DIRECTOR, FAITH FORUM FOR LONDON: First of all, London fused together different faith communities in London. We have seen already an incredible response where there's a lot of support, but we also (INAUDIBLE) a real increase of vigilance that we have to have in this, you know, current situation.
We need to be particularly careful with additional risks of further attacks. Communities need to be working more closely and more vigilant around sharing information, anything that they know that could be potentially and being quite persistent in sharing information with the authorities. We know that the communities are forthcoming with sharing information. And, you know, some of the recent perpetrators have been reported, but it's (INAUDIBLE).
We are also seeing a real fear that fringe sections of British society may react and be nasty on local Muslim communities. We have seen Jewish groups offer assistance to mosques and how to protect their faith institutions and protect their congregations and we have seen (INAUDIBLE) yesterday, for example, opening doors, having get- togethers, and mosques, imams and chaplains from churches offering counseling for some of the faith community and that's been already an incredible experience.
JONES: Three attacks in three months here in Britain. The fact that we're in holy month of Ramadan as well. Muslim community somehow at a heightened sense of security or alert because of this holy month thinking that more attacks may indeed happened right now?
FIELD: I think it's -- you know, we're in very difficult times. Ramadan traditionally is a time where people reflect. It's about contemplation. It's about people caring, giving and supporting one -- and opening their doors.
And so the ideals of Ramadan do not relate at all. In many parts of the Middle East, people hold truce and people who have differences try to resolve that difference in the month of Ramadan.
So these perpetrators are in direct, you know, arrogance and insult to the faith and to the teachings of Islam. But, we, you know, we have had to be vigilant because we know this is a sick ideology and we've seen how they launched attacks. And not just that, but also we've seen Ramadan attacks in Kabul and Baghdad. And London is a very international city. We feel this and a threat is always real for us.
JONES: They have -- these attackers have of course taken your faith in vain in doing so. I think what lots of people don't understand, though, is the different threads of this Islamist ideology.
We don't yet know about these three attackers, whether they were ISIS inspired or ISIS soldiers in some way as well. Can you explain for our viewers this idea of Salafi Jihadism and what it means and why it differs from Islam as a peaceful faith?
FIELD: Salafism has a (INAUDIBLE), very little understanding of Islam. That lack of nuance and sometimes critical thinking on the scripture and broad understanding can make it easier for those praying on vulnerable individuals to direct them to a very narrow vision and a very dogmatic understanding of our faith.
And this is something that's really challenging. This is why it's really important that with some of the many of the faith leaders that we work with, we tried to create spaces to, you know, re-engage those who are disengaged from the mosque. Often radicalization takes place online, takes place outside of our faith communities.
JONES: I was just going to ask you about that, technology and the online radicalization as well. Is that the biggest threat, do you think, for the vulnerable youth within Muslim communities?
FIELD: We know that groups like Daesh are targeting, praying on our young people through that technology and reaching them. And so it's -- nothing is more powerful than one-to-one relationships. And I think we need to go out and talk to people.
JONES: Thank you for the work you are doing so far. Thank you for joining us as well. Mustafa, we appreciate it.
Back to John now in Los Angeles.
JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: Hannah, thank you.
We had this just in to CNN.
Four Middle Eastern countries have broken diplomatic relations with Qatar -- Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the UAE say that they are taking this move because of Qatar's support for terrorism.
Qatari diplomats have been given 48 hours to leave Bahrain. Saudi Arabia's says it is closing land, sea and airports to protect the country from, quote, "The dangers of terrorism and extremism."
Egypt released a statement saying, "Cairo was unable to dissuade Qatar from supporting terrorism."
Well, when we come back here, the Manchester benefit concert went on Sunday despite the London rampage. We will have more on the music, which brought together 50,000 people in a show of strength and unity.
[00:41:10] JONES: The Manchester benefit concert went on as scheduled last night despite the London terror rampage. The pop star Ariana Grande headlined the "One Love" show honoring of course the victims and survivors of last month's deadly attack after her concert in Manchester.
Sunday's all-star event brought together 50,000 fans and some of the biggest names in music all in the name of strength and unity. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
(ARIANA GRANDE SINGING)
ARIANA GRANDE, POP STAR: I had the pleasure of meeting Olivia's mommy a few days ago. And as soon as I met her, I started crying, I gave her a big hug and she said that, this is so kind because Olivia wouldn't have wanted me to cry. And then she told me that Olivia would have wanted to hear the hit. Thank you so much for coming together and being so loving and so unified.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's not easy to always choose love, is it? Tell them I love you, look in their eyes, say, I love you!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All these people who are fearless who came for love. We will not be separated.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just want to take this moment to honor the people that were lost or that were taken. We love you so much. To your families, we love you so much.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JONES: Beautiful scenes from Manchester last night. I'm Hannah Vaugh-Jones in London. "World Sport" is coming up next. Then John Vause and I will be back with another hour of news from around the world, including of course the latest on the London terror attacks. Stay with us here on CNN.