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[03:00:00] HANNAH VAUGHAN JONES, CNN ANCHOR: Donald Trump expecting a warm welcome in Warsaw. What he is planning to say about American foreign policy.
On North Korea, America's ambassador to the U.N. signaled military action is an option. Russia and China though have other ideas.
Plus, a congressman apologizes after posting a selfie video from a Nazi gas chamber.
Welcome to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. I'm Hannah Vaughan Jones live for you in London and this is CNN NEWSROOM.
Donald Trump is set to ascend the world stage once more on his second visit to Europe as U.S. President. Only this time the meetings will be higher profile and the stakes even greater.
Mr. Trump will start of what's expected to be a friendly audience in Warsaw, Poland then he travels to Germany for the G20 summit and his first face-to-face meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Well, CNN's Melissa Bell is live for us in Warsaw, the Polish capital now. Melissa, this is a big, big deal for Poland to having the President there in their capital. U.S. president he used to positive relations with Poland. Should we expect anything different with Donald Trump?
MELISSA BELL, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: No. And it's no surprise that Donald Trump has chosen Poland as his first pit stop on this second foreign trip, Hannah. It is after all the government who's policies mirror many of his own, it's nationalist, populist sentiment really is something that Donald Trump understands.
So he is being received by a friendly government as you say all too happy to be welcoming him here in Warsaw before London, or Paris or Berlin have had the opportunity to do the same. And they've been offering free bus rides to poles so that they can come and attend that crucial speech later today in a show of support for the American President.
The sequence, however, of the next few days is interesting. Because of course what Donald Trump will be very brilliant expected to make saying his speech in Warsaw today is his commitment to the principle of mutual defense amongst NATO members and we have the confirmation already this morning from Poland's defenseman two (Inaudible) after nights of negotiations the United States is going to be selling patriots, defense missile, defense systems to the Polish government.
Now both of those things of course will come just ahead now of Donald Trump's meeting with Vladimir Putin. And just as this meeting the speech here today is being watched very closely by NATO, it is also being watched extremely closely from Russia as well.
And so these things both the speech that he is likely to make later today reinforcing that support if he indeed he chooses to do it more clearly than he has in the past as the Polish government hopes that the will and the announcement of those defense sales will do nothing to help his relationship with Vladimir Putin.
It's likely to add tension to what was already looking set to be a fairly awkward meeting, Hannah.
JONES: Melissa, you mentioned that this speech that's coming up. He's also going to be meeting regional leaders, eastern European as well. And that sets to ruffle a few Russian feathers with a possible Polish pivot towards America for its energy needs.
BELL: That's right. It isn't just about security and NATO and the strength of that particular alliance. It's also about energy which is a crucial question here in Eastern Europe. Donald Trump before making the speech will be attending a summit of regional nations who are hoping to decrease their dependence on Russia for things like natural gas.
Donald Trump hoping to increase the United States supply of liquefied natural gas to Poland in particular. So this is about security, this is about energy and on both fronts there is the potential for Donald Trump to upset Russia just ahead of that crucial meeting.
The other things to look out for of course will be crowd sizes, Hannah at that meeting. That they say the speech in particular, how many poles have the Polish government managed to attract to listen to Donald Trump to give him the welcome that he hopes to receive here which is expected to be warmer than the one he is likely to get in Hamburg.
How many people will have made the trip on the free Trump tour that's been provided by the Polish government to welcome the American President. They've been all produce so great patriotic picnic but there has been some sign of dissent here in Poland. Overnight Greenpeace have projected into one of the main buildings here in Warsaw a sign that read "Trump, no, Paris, yes." A reminder of course that the American withdraw from the Paris climate deal, Hannah.
JONES: Yes, Melissa, we understand some reports anyway saying that President Trump is being promised a significant crowd size when he addresses the Polish people later on.
[03:05:01] Melissa, we'll come back to you later in the hour no doubt when we see and hear from the U.S. and Polish Presidents. Thank you.
And now North Korea's latest missile launch is likely to dominate the discussions at the G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany. The Pentagon now says the missile is one the U.S. has not seen before, a two-stage rocket that could possibly hit Alaska and the U.S. is turning up the pressure somewhat on Pyongyang at the United Nations.
CNN's Michelle Kosinski reports.
MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: An emergency meeting at the United Nations.
NIKKI HALEY, UNITED STATES AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS: I must say that today is a dark day. Is it a dark day because yesterday's actions by North Korea made the world a more dangerous place? Their illegal missile launch was not only dangerous, but reckless and irresponsible.
KOSINSKI: Kim Jong-un has been undaunted despite the unprecedented sanctions the U.N. imposed a year ago on the already isolated nation. This latest launch of new technology heralded as a Fourth of July gift for the American bastards. An intercontinental ballistic missile that flew more than 500 miles one could be capable of reaching the United States.
HALEY: It shows that North Korea does not want to be part of a peaceful world. They had cast a dark shadow of conflict on all nations that strive for peace.
KOSINSKI: And the U.S. issuing a strong warning to other countries, especially China that continue to feed the North Korean regime with steady and even increased trade.
HALEY: There are countries that allowing, even encouraging trade with North Korea in violation of U.N. Security Council resolutions. Such countries would also like to continue their trade arrangements with the United States. That's not going to happen. Time is short. Action is required. The world is on notice.
KOSINSKI: China and Russia though, have been resistant to putting the clamps on.
VLADIMIR SAFRONKOV, RUSSIA'S DEPUTY PERMANENT REPRESENTATIVE TO THE U.N. (through translator): We are against any statements or actions which could lead to an escalation and hardening of antagonism. We call for all interested states to act with restraint rather than provocation and warmongering.
KOSINSKI: And it's no secret why.
CEDRIC LEIGHTON, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: President Trump's challenge is going to be to really get China and Russia to help box in North Korea but so far there is basically no leverage because the Chinese want to keep North Korea exactly the way it is. KOSINSKI: And now China and Russia have agreed to work together on the matter putting out a statement yesterday that was essentially a rebuke of the U.S.'s method calling for the U.S. and South Korea to stop working together on missile defense and end their joint military responses.
The Pentagon's response, a rebuke of its own, video showing missile defense exercises in action which it plans to continue. Today South Korea released yet another defiant visual. Simulating an attack on the North. As the Trump administration amps up its rhetoric it remains unclear how far the U.S. will go to stop North Korea.
HALEY: Their actions are quickly closing off the possibility of a diplomatic solution. The United States is prepared to use the full range of our capabilities to defend ourselves and allies.
KOSINSKI: So on the one hand, you have Russia and China in there advocating for dialogue first even without preconditions which the U.S. has been against saying that you need to be creative with diplomacy. They oppose the kind of rhetoric and stance that the U.S. has put out there.
But in response the U.S. says because nothing has worked, it is time to do more. Telling the Security Council that if you are going to sit there and not vote for additional sanctions against North Korea then you are holding hands with Kim Jong-un.
Michelle Kosinski, CNN, the State Department.
JONES: We have new reaction out of Seoul. Paula Hancocks joins me now from the South Korean capital. Paula the U.S., then, not ruling out at least military action but where does that leave the South Koreans?
PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We've had a new reaction to North Korea's latest missile test, this time out of Seoul. CNN's Paula Hancocks joins me now live from the South Korean capital.
Paula, the U.S. said not ruling at least military action but where does that lead to South Koreans.
Well, Hannah, we've had a reaction from the South Korean President, Moon Jae-in. He is in Germany at this point meeting with Angela Merkel earlier on. And he said that he was calling for stronger sanctions, he was calling for more international pressure on North Korea which is a bit of a departure from where he started just a few months ago.
He has always been pro-engagement and pro-dialogue with North Korea. But now after this ICBM launch he is moving closer to the U.S. line and pushing for more sanctions. We also heard from the defense ministry as well. The minister yesterday saying that he was concerned that there were significant process being made in miniaturizing a nuclear warhead.
[03:10:01] Now this coupled with the ICBM, once both are fully working in North Korea since then, that means they have that capability to be able to hit mainland United States with a nuclear-tipped ICBM. This is what the stated goal of North Korea. We also heard from the defense minister that he thinks a sixth nuclear test may not be too far away. Hannah?
JONES: And we know that the U.S. wants China to do more to clamp down on Pyongyang. Is that also what the new South Korean president is looking for, for China to take a lead in terms of regional stability?
HANCOCKS: It's what he has been saying over the past week or so, certainly not so much earlier. But his position is really aligning itself more with the position of the U.S. President, Donald Trump. Also what we're seeing here as well, there is almost, well, there is a divide between what the U.S. and South Korea want in their policy with North Korea and how to deal with the country and then what China and Russia wants.
Certainly this is something that's played out here in South Korea. Media is focusing quite heavily on this perceived divide between the two sides, them versus us, how to deal with North Korea. China and Russia of course asking that there is a halt in the U.S./South Korea military drills in return for a halt or a freezing in North Korea's nuclear weapon program. It's being rejected in the past. China has suggested this in the past. But is it a divide that is concerning some here in South Korea. Hannah?
JONES: Paula Hancocks, thank you very much. Paula is live for us in Seoul, South Korea.
Well, Moscow is urging Washington to end its joint military drills and that it conduct with South Korea.
Matthew Chance is live for us now from the Russian capital Moscow. Matthew, the U.S. and Russia at loggerheads again over what to do about North Korea. Just listen first though, to this exchange between the U.S. and the Russian representative at the U.N. Security Council yesterday.
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HALEY: But it is -- makes no sense to not join together on this threat against North Korea. They have not had any care for Russia or China in this. They have not listened to anything that you said. They're not going to listen to anything that you say. And so it's time that we all stand together and say we will not put up with this action.
To sit there and oppose sanctions or to sit there and go in defiance of a new resolution means you are holding the hands of Kim Jong-un.
SAFRONKOV (through translator): The solution to the situation on the Korean Peninsula we think can only be found exclusively by calibrating regional and international efforts. Sanctions cannot be a cure-all. This has been demonstrated by history. Here what we need is to seek a political solution and be creative in our diplomacy.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JONES: So Matthew, Nikki Haley there for the U.S. saying that all the countries need to stand together and take a unilateral approach. Russia seemingly has a different stance. What's behind that?
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I think Russia stance is that they want to stand together with the rest of the international community but with a view to getting the North Koreans into a process of diplomacy and negotiation.
The Russian foreign minister spoke out about this issue just yesterday saying that he does not believe that the task of denuclearizing the Korean Peninsula should be a pretext for regime change. And of course that talks so much broader concern in the Russian foreign policy. The idea that western-backed regime change is a fallback position.
They've witnessed that the Russians have in Iraq, in Libya in the neighboring country of Ukraine as well. And they've been strenuously resisting it ever since. And they certainly don't want to see in their Asian backyards in North Korea.
The other reason that the Russians I think are pushing for negotiations is because in any negotiations when it comes to the future of North Korea and what to do there they would be front and center in those talks. And that again talks to a broader issue in Russian foreign policy. They want a seat at the top diplomatic table. You know, military intervention doesn't give them that diplomatic efforts on the Korean Peninsula puts them again at the focus of that crisis.
JONES: And we saw that effort with the Russian and Chinese leaders meeting just the other day as well. It does certainly seem that if it's America first as far as Trump's concerned then Russia and China will step in to avoid and take that lead in terms of global dominance.
CHANCE: Yes, I mean, this partnership, this alliance between Russia and China is very significant and we've seen them rally again around this issue of North Korea and the crisis on the Korean Peninsula.
And again another one of the concerns that is shared by Russia and China is a bid or a need to try and curtail U.S. power in their respective backyards in the European theater in the Russian side and in Asia as well when it comes to the Chinese but also with the Russians.
[03:15:02] And so they combined forces again to try and provide a counterpoint, a counterbalance to what they would see as U.S. power and U.S. ambitions in that Asian region.
JONES: Matthew, great to talk with you as always and no doubt we'll speak to you later in the hour and we're going to discuss in more detail this upcoming meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. Matthew, thank you.
Now President Donald Trump's stop in Poland is expected to be perhaps the easiest part of his day. Coming up, his agenda there before of course he heads up to Germany in the G20 summit.
Plus, ISIS is losing the grip on it two biggest cities but what should be a resounding victory is soured by questions of what happens next.
JONES: Welcome back to CNN NEWSROOM. We're going to return now straight to Poland. These are live pictures. You can see there U.S. President Donald Trump is on his way to the Royal Castle in Warsaw, the Polish capital to meet with his Polish counterpart Andrzej Duda.
The two leaders are quite similar really. President Duda himself came to power just two years ago on a populist wave of anti-immigrant sentiment. They are both skeptical of international organizations like the European Union and also NATO.
[03:19:54] However, in just a few hours' time President Trump, once he has held these talks with President Duda he is expected to deliver a speech on his Trans-Atlantic policy focusing in particular on NATO. Everyone will be listening to hear if he says anything about that mutual defense clause, that crucial clause in the NATO alliance which means that an attack on one is an attack on all.
As President Trump of course in the past has been slightly disparaging about NATO once calling it obsolete and then saying it is not obsolete. But certainly all of the NATO members are very, very closely watching everything that President Trump has to say and of course all of the body language between these two leaders.
Poland very proud though that the U.S. president has decided to stop off in their country before then heading off to Hamburg, Germany for that G20 summit.
Melissa Bell, our correspondent joins me now live from Warsaw with the very latest. Melissa, just remind us of why the wording of Donald Trump's speech is just so critical.
BELL: Well, because as you were just reminding viewers, Hannah, this is really all about NATO. You really need only to look at the geography of Poland to look at its 20th century history to understand why perhaps for this country more than any other in Europe, the idea of that famous article 5 clause within the NATO treaty which essentially means that when one country is under attack the others come to help.
You can understand why it matters more here than it does in many other countries. We are here in Warsaw after only 300 kilometers from the Russian border. And as you alluded to a moment ago, Hannah, Donald Trump has not been terribly forthcoming in his support in his clear recommitment to that article 5 clause.
Failing to mention it at all when he was at NATO headquarters for that first foreign trip back in May. He then did commit the United States to it by talking about it from the Rose Garden he's been alongside and this was just a couple of weeks later his Romanian counterpart. But to hear him commit to it on Polish soil will be extremely
important to the Polish government but also to other NATO countries. His words, though, Hannah, will also be very closely watched from across the border in Russia and this just ahead of that meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.
So the sequence of events over the course of this second foreign trip for Donald Trump has been extremely interesting. You can understand why he accepted the Polish government's invitation of a pit stop here.
This is also after all a government that he has much in common with a government that has through its policies through its apparent attacks on the free press here in Poland and attempts to rein in the independent judiciary worried Brussels a great deal over the course of the last couple of years since the Law and Justice party came to power here in November of 2015.
Its populist instincts are extremely worrying to the wider European Union. So you can understand that Donald Trump might have chosen to visit a country where a government is in charge that he has a certain affinity with. After all the Law and Justice party is made anti- immigration central plank of it.
It is also, as you mentioned a moment ago, suspicious of organizations like the European Union. But of course coming to Warsaw ahead of what now will be a bilateral meeting with Vladimir Putin presents a fresh set of challenges, and amongst those how to carefully show his support for NATO.
We've also learned overnight by the way that his visit has led already to the sales and agreement of the sale of patriot missile defense system to Poland. That has been confirmed by Poland defense minister. That will also ruffle feathers in Moscow.
So two things that are likely to make what was already like to be an awkward the meeting with Vladimir Putin more awkward still. But as you say, the words of the speech that will be delivered here later today will be extremely important. The fact that he sticks to the words that would have been carefully thought through will also be extremely important if for no other reason really, Hannah, that the world is waiting to hear precisely what role Donald Trump intends for the United States to play on the international stage.
JONES: And Melissa, as you are battling obviously the morning rush hour traffic and the noise behind you we are still showing our viewers, these are live pictures of the motorcade making its way towards the Royal Castle in the Polish capital as well.
No doubt a massive security presence in and around this city while President Trump of United States is in town as well.
Melissa, U.S. presidents have long received a warm welcome in Poland, and particularly republican Presidents. Just remind us a little bit of the history of the relations between the two countries.
BELL: That's right. One of the most interesting aspects of this particular trip, Hannah, is not so much that it's new. It has traditionally been an important stop for American Presidents, both democrats and republicans but perhaps with a greater affinity for republican Presidents who really chosen to come here over the years a great deal.
[03:25:01] And that is because until now, really, the values that bound the two countries, Poland and the United States, was an ideological tie, the idea that Poland really represented through its solidarity movement through its recent history in the lead up to 1989 this determination to shake off the shackles of communism and proclaim itself a free country.
It's something that American presidents have come here time and time again to pay their respect to pay tribute to that desire for the freedom of the Polish people. This is a very different American President visiting a very different Polish government.
This time the common values are not so much the ones that have bound them so far, rather these are two populist governments essentially meeting at a time when the rest of the world is perhaps unconvinced by their positions certainly by the European Union by their positions on things like immigration.
So there is a slight shift in both administrations. You are watching there the motorcade of Donald Trump making its way toward the Royal Castle in the old part of Warsaw. What's left of old Warsaw. And there he will meeting President Duda, a president I was saying that he has perhaps more in common with than many of the leaders that he's going to be meeting in Hamburg immediately after this trip.
After he has met with President Duda and still inside that castle he is going to be attending a summit of three C's initiative summit now. This is a summit 12 nations, Hannah, that lie between the Baltic, Adriatic and Black Seas.
And they are essentially worried eastern European Baltic countries, they're worried about being able to create greater infrastructure amongst themselves and to lessen their energy dependence on Russia. Energy of course, a big problem here in Eastern Europe.
Many countries seemingly they are relying too much on Moscow. And it is another part, another important of President Trump's visit here. He wants to make the United States a net exporter of things like liquefied natural gas. These are countries all too keen to accept that offer.
But of course, again, another element that's likely to be closely watched from Moscow with a great deal of suspicion about the American government's intention. Once that three C's initiative meeting is over, Donald Trump will be heading to pay tribute alongside his Polish counterpart to the failed 1944 Warsaw Uprising against Nazi.
That had been a very brave but ultimately doomed attempt to shake off the Nazi occupation but it has led, Hannah, to the killing of 200,000 poles. This is an extremely important memorial here in Poland and after that Donald Trump will be making that speech which will be so carefully watched not only from the west, and in particular from the rest of the European Union but also from the east and crucially by Vladimir Putin.
JONES: Melissa, stay with us if you can. I want to bring in though, Nic Robertson, our diplomatic editor who is live in Hamburg in Germany for us. Nic, expected -- Donald Trump expected to receive a warmer welcome shall we say while he's in Poland but things might shift slightly as soon as he gets to Germany.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yes, there's a real sense a lot of challenges for him here not least that first meeting with President Putin of Russia and as we understand from overnight last night, Poland has now signed an agreement, a military agreement with the United States to have and station U.S.-made patriot missiles there in Poland. That is sure to anger President Putin.
So that -- from not knowing about that to this meeting that was going to be about Ukraine and Syria I think we can be sure that that that's going to come up. President Putin has written in a newspaper here how much he is against sanctions that sanctions don't work.
Of course that will be part of his narrative about his position on Ukraine. Although the Kremlin has briefed that they don't think President Putin has quite enough time to give President Trump a full understanding of Ukraine which reading between the lines seems to imply they don't expect President Trump to shift on the Ukraine issue.
But key of that of course is sanctions and President Putin already sort of putting that on the public record now. That's a big issue for him. Sanctions he doesn't want them, he doesn't like them, he doesn't think that they work but they are having an economic impact on this country nevertheless.
So that's one part of, you know, what President Trump is going to arrive to face here. Some perhaps acrimony that we didn't know was on the cards over these patriot missiles being positioned in Poland. But of course there are many other things, trade and climate change are big among them.
You know, we had talking about people have written in the newspapers, Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor has been quoted in the -- in a very popular weekly political paper here saying that the United States and Germany, in particular, that's something echoed by the European Union differ massively on globalization, that the German chancellor believes that globalization should be a win/win, that unlike, she said, in the United States where there are winners and losers where only a few profit the view here in Europe is that globalization should benefit everyone.
[03:30:14] Of course she might argue she would say that going into elections this year. However, trade and the matter of free trade or protectionism is a big issue here and on the eve of President Trump arriving in Hamburg and Brussels today. You have the Japanese prime minister meeting with European Union leader who are likely to sign a free trade deal.
HANNAH VAUGHAN JONES, HOST, CNN: Can I interrupt you for one moment. My apologies. But we are showing our viewers live pictures at the moment of Donald Trump and his Polish counterpart, the Polish President Andrzej Duda shaking hands there inside the Royal Castle in Polish capital of Warsaw.
The two men firm handshake there, smiling all seemingly very friendly indeed and they will now go off for their bilateral talks where they will be talking about security, about trade, about regional stability as well.
And, Nic, Donald Trump we know is the president who doesn't particularly like sticking to script. But given the gravity of the diplomatic tensions at play at the moment do you think we might see Donald Trump more on message than ever before when he delivers this speech at Krasinski Square later today?
ROBERTSON: There will be a hope here that he doesn't distance himself from the sort of the economic heart of Europe, a Europe, you know, a Germany and a France and European Union that has significant differences on immigration policy, for example with Poland that has differences over human -- over interpretation or who should have the final say on, you know, laws, European Union or Poland looking towards sovereignty there.
So there are differences that could be amplified or could be bridged. Of course, Angela Merkel and President Macron of France, Theresa May of Britain who all be here at the G20 will be looking to that speech to see if President Trump commits to supporting article 5 of the NATO alliance which is, you know, a strike against one is a strike against all mutual defense which he notably didn't say when he was at the NATO headquarters in Brussels in May earlier this year.
So there will be -- there will a look to see if he is building bridges there but an idea that he may come out and be too warm in his embrace of Poland will play negatively here on the bigger stage. So I think you can expect people to look to that.
But for President Trump when he gets here, at least, trying to stay on script here is going to be important of course. The big issue of North Korea, the big push by the United States at the United Nations last night for increased sanctions on Korea. We've heard what President Putin has to say about sanctions already.
But it will be meeting with President Xi Jinping when President Trump does that here he'll have to try and convince the Chinese leader of the U.S. position and to try to get their support or at least not have theirs and Russia's veto at the U.N. on any vote on increasing on sanctions on North Korea.
So staying on script on that topic alone if he wants to -- if he wants that resolution to pass in the United Nations that will be hugely important again all those other issues, we've talked about trade, globalization, climate change as well, a big differentiator right now between President Trump and many of the others at the G20, Hannah. JONES: Nic, thank you. Melissa Bell still standing by for us in
Warsaw. Pardon, Melissa, we have to see those two leaders shake hands and they've gone off for their talks now. What will the Polish President be looking for specific to his country from Donald Trump?
MELISSA BELL, INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Definitely security and energy, a commitment that the United States will help Poland feel safe in the face of Russia. Clearly President Duda will be looking to hear specifically a strong signal, a strong commitment on both those questions.
But already, of course, as we were just hearing, the fact that this patriot defense missile system negotiation has led to a deal according to Poland defense ministry will be an important signal really to be drawn from this meeting; a signal that Poland will be capable of defending itself.
Now we've been talking about why Donald Trump should have accepted this particular meeting with a President that he shares a lot in common with ideologically to say those meetings. Those talks now are underway and we are expecting by the way, Hannah, to hear from both Presidents within about half an hour. Once those talks are done it will be the first time we hear from Donald Trump on this, the second leg of his meeting.
[03:35:00] Beyond the natural sympathies that there might be attuned to the two presidents given their equally nationalistic and populist platforms. There is also the question of course of what President Duda can expect from Donald Trump and clearly those two questions will be extremely important and from Donald Trump's point of view, you know, Poland is precisely the kind of nation that he believes represents what NATO members should.
It is one of the five NATO countries that actually spend 2 percent of its GDP on its military. This is the kind of thing that Donald Trump believes sets an example to other NATO members who perhaps don't go far enough as far as he's concerned in their military spending in terms of being in NATO commitment.
So these are two men who share a lot in common. But as Nic was just saying, once Donald Trump rises to speak later this morning, once he makes that speech in Krasinski Square not only to the Polish people but also to the wider world it will be a very difficult balancing act, really between giving his host what his host wants to hear, telling NATO what NATO wants to hear but not going so far as to ruffle too many Russian feathers ahead of that meeting of course later on and it will all be about sticking to that script.
JONES: Melissa Bell, live for us there in Warsaw, Poland. Thank you very much indeed. I want to bring in Matthew Chance now who is standing by for us in the Russian capital, Moscow. Of course all eyes will be on this Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump face-to-face meeting the first time two these two have met face-to-face coming up on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Germany as well.
Matthew, your response or what you think the Kremlin's response might be first of all to this news out of Poland that a deal has been struck, a missile deal between the United States and Poland?
CHANCE: Well it's interesting because this isn't the subject that gets many headlines these days. But it's still one of the main issues if not the main issue that Russia has with its what it would call its western partners, the deployment of missile defense in Eastern Europe Russia believes threaten its own strategic balance and threaten its own strategic deterrent.
They basically say they could be aimed at Russian nuclear missiles and it's been a major sore point in relations between Russia and the west and I expect this news will be greeted with, you know, very negatively, shall we say, by Moscow, although we have not had a statement in reaction to it yet. But I expect that there will be a statement regarding it soon.
But you're right. I mean, it's also likely to be raised, I would say or it could be raised during this first face-to-face meeting that is widely anticipated between Donald Trump, the U.S. President and Vladimir Putin. Of course they have a whole range of issues which they could possibly talk about.
And it's extraordinary really that for a meeting of this importance there is very little comment being made on either side about what the agenda will be. I think the Russians are prepared to take a lead from the United States on that.
For their part the Russians say they want to try and emphasize the possibility of cooperation between the United States and Russia in the area of international terrorism. It's an issue that they've raised before. They want the United States to work with Russia, particularly in war zones like Syria to combat what they call international terrorism and the Kremlin says they will be raising that issue. But this new deal with Poland may well change that -- change that calculation.
JONES: We will have to wait and see, Matthew Chance, live in Moscow. Thank you. I want to go back now to Nic Robertson, he's live for us in Hamburg in Germany. Nic, Donald Trump will be fighting many fires on many fronts as he embarks on this diplomatic mission. How crucial though is the next few days for Donald Trump diplomatically not just in terms of America standing on the world stage but also of his own position in the Oval Office?
ROBERTSON: You know, the Europeans to a degree have really made their mind up about President Trump and there's a feeling that they need to be more united and they need to take the place on the world stage that the United States seems to be vacating. Whether you are talking about Syria where the United States doesn't seem to have a firm clear political idea of where it is going, it does militarily to take down on ISIS.
We heard Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in the past, sort of 12 hours or so talk about the importance of stabilizing Syria beyond that but there is a general sense that United States is more absent from the world stage and that is typified, if you will, at that situation at the G7 meeting, a group of seven meeting just at the end of May, beginning of June, where President Trump didn't support the global climate change agreement in Paris.
[03:40:04] He was actually, you know, if you read between the lines, criticized by his Italian host there, the prime minister who during that meeting said, look, we need to negotiate here professionally if we are able to have concrete agreements. And there was a sense that on the world stage there at the last big global summit that he attended, President Trump, perhaps didn't measure up.
So there will be additional scrutiny here. Then you were talking before about the need to be on script. There are so many pressing issues here. I mean, let's see what is happening in the Middle East, of course with the situation with Qatar. It's striking that neither the Saudi king is coming, nor the crown prince who would deputize for him.
But as we understand here, the expected representative from Saudi Arabia will be a former finance minister, a significant downgrade from a leadership position. So you know, you have the Qatar standoff there on as one thing. You have the seat a very delicate and pressing issue of North Korea. You have Syria. You have Ukraine. You have the first meeting with President Trump.
And if you want to achieve something and extensively on the world stage right now, President Trump does want that U.N. support over North Korea. This is his chance to try to win support for that. He'll be meeting with the Japanese prime minister, with the South Korean president as well to try to do that.
So that's going to take some diplomatic, careful footwork that President Trump hasn't really shown himself very deft at doing. And of course the other expectation here is what is his messaging going to be on global change. He is sort of an outlier compared to the rest of the world or at least certainly many of his partners in Europe on that issue.
Is he going to lean towards protectionism and have trade tariffs, et cetera, and controls on steel? He blames China for dumping steel on the world market. Or is he going to take be more open to free trade. So much at stake and everything is interconnected and every step, you know, determines part of the track you run on the next part of your talks. It's a very difficult situation he is faced with here. Hannah?
JONES: Much to watch over the coming hours and coming days as well. Nic Robertson in Hamburg, Matthew Chance in Moscow and also Melissa Bell live for us in Warsaw. Many thanks to you all.
It's a busy couple of hours, busy morning for us here at CNN. We are of course monitoring President Trump's second trip to Europe as President of the United States. He then heads off to the G20 in Germany. That takes place tomorrow. Plenty more coming up on this story and the rest of global headlines after the break.
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JONES: Welcome back. Well, as we showed you just in the last few minutes, the U.S. President, Donald Trump is currently holding bilateral talks with his Polish counterpart, Andrzej Duda. That's happening in Warsaw right now.
Next up, Mr. Trump will head to the G20 summit. But his biggest challenge could be on the sidelines of that summit when he meets the Russian President Vladimir Putin.
U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson says the situation in Syria will be one of the main topics that the two leaders discuss.
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REX TILLERSON, UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF STATE: This is where we've begun, that's an effort to begin to rebuild confidence between ourselves and Russia at the military to military level but also the diplomatic level. So, I think it is an effort that serves both of our interests as well as the broader interest of the international community.
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JONES: Well, in a statement, Rex Tillerson added that cooperation with Russia could come in several forms such as establishing no-fly zones and enforcing cease fires.
In other news, U.S. Republican Congressman Clay Higgins is apologizing for a video he made about the Auschwitz concentration camps. The piece is now off his social media site but not before it set off somewhat of a controversy. The criticism came from not just from what he said but where he said it. Take a look.
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CLAY HIGGINS, (R) UNITED STATES REPRESENTATIVE: This is why homeland security must be squared away why our military must be invincible.
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JONES: Welcome back. Returning now to President Donald Trump's visit to Poland. He is currently meeting with his Polish counterpart, President Andrzej Duda.
Earlier on, the Polish defense minister said the United States had already reached an agreement to sell patriot missiles to Poland. And in just a few hours' time after these bilateral talks have concluded Donald Trump will later deliver a speech in Warsaw's Krasinski Square. Afterwards Mr. Trump will leave for Hamburg, Germany and the G20 summit to take place tomorrow.
Well, throughout his campaign and now his presidency, Donald Trump's tweets have amused and sometimes confounded his followers and critics. As world leaders gather for the G20 summit the U.S. President's 140 character opinions are being studied and analyzed with ever more scrutiny.
Alexander Mackwood (Ph) has the details. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As the President left for Europe he fired off a
series of tweets that cast a chill over one of America's most important relationships implying that China is working against the U.S. in trying to rein in North Korea. World leaders often use Twitter to lay out their thoughts on foreign affairs but none like this and none with greater potential consequences.
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MICHAEL O'HANLON, SENIOR FELLOW, BROOKINGS INSTITUTION FOREIGN POLICY: It certainly is true that any given tweet you got to be nervous about. It might box President Trump in, it might give away some information, it might get him into a dynamic with some other leader who fires back verbally with some risk of an escalating to military conflict.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Around the world Trump's tweets have been met with fascination, and amusement but also nervousness. An often outright anger.
South Korea was reportedly so concerned that they assigned a foreign affairs officer just to monitor his tweets. Trump has often used Twitter like a traditional president to offer support and sympathy to friends but also with those same friends in unorthodox and undiplomatic ways like attacking the mayor of London following June's deadly attack.
[03:55:10] A spokesman for Mayor Sadiq Khan responding, "Khan has more important things to do that respond to Donald Trump's ill-informed tweet."
The American ambassador to the U.K. then trying to calm the waters tweeting, "I commend the strong leadership of the mayor of London as he leads the city forward after this heinous attack."
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O'HANLON: You don't have to take every tweet equally seriously. Sometimes you're better off letting it be like water off a duck's back and frankly, sometimes Mr. Trump will revise his own opinion the next day.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One other American diplomat counts herself so frustrated she used the president's favorite method of communication to vent increasingly difficult to wake up overseas to news from home. The ambassador to Qatar, Dana Shell Smith tweeted, "knowing I will spend today explaining our democracy and institutions." Shell Smith has since step down.
Trump's tweets often confuse contradicting what he himself and his administration have previously said. Weeks after calling Qatar a crucial strategic partner he seem to side with Saudi Arabia against them, frustrating the state and defense department who view Qatar as a key ally.
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O'HANLON: I think 90 percent of his tweets however much I may not like them are not so dangerous. They are more or less harmless but the last 5 or 10 percent could ultimately get us into trouble. And so I really hope that he takes more care with them than sometimes seems to be the case.
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JONES: We will have full coverage as President Trump prepares to deliver that speech in Warsaw, Poland.
Thanks for your company. Early Start is coming up after the short break.
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