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St. Louis Prepares for More Unrest After Officer Acquittal; Florida Keys Residents Returning Home; How to Protect Yourself from Equifax Data Breach; College Freshman Dead After "Potential" Hazing; Trump's DACA Deal with Democrats Leaves Republicans Fuming; Trump's DACA Deal with Democrats Leaves Republicans Fuming; Trump to address U.N. General Assembly; 400,000 Rohingya Flee to Bangladesh. Aired 3-4p ET

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[15:00:11] BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: It is the top of the hour, 3:00 p.m. I'm Boris Sanchez, in New York City, filling in for Ana Cabrera this week. We thank you so much for joining us.

There is breaking news all across the country, all across the world. But we start in the state of Missouri. The city of St. Louis on edge, bracing for more protests after a former police officer was acquitted of murder in the 2011 shooting death of a black motorist. This was the scene at an impromptu protest near St. Louis today. Listen.




SANCHEZ: Protesters chanting "Black Lives Matter" and "no peace, no profits," as they gather at the entrance of a mall there. Security at the mall estimates there were about 200 to 300 protesters present.

Ryan Young is nearby. He joins us live.

Ryan, what are you seeing?

RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good afternoon, Boris. We're told those protesters have been kicked out of the mall area. Everything has resumed to normal here.

This is the West County Mall. And you can understand that happened in the middle of the afternoon. A busy shopping area. We'll show you some video as they were walking through. We did see police officers lining the entrance around the highways here to keep people out for a little while. They have moved on. We've actually been told by protests there will be more action this afternoon.

Boris, we've walked along with them together in different situations. I can tell you yesterday was one of those days I was sure some of the protests were frustrated because for the most part, throughout the afternoon, it was peaceful. And we walked with them from about 11:00 yesterday afternoon until 1:00 in morning but there was a small group who were determined to make noise between them and the police officers. We know several police officers were injured yesterday. In fact, four why injured as people were throwing bricks at those officers. We actually turned into a neighborhood at one point and someone broke the windows out of the mayor's house. That's when things took a turn. Police officers using tear gas got them out of the way. We're told throughout the day they plan to protest even more.

SANCHEZ: Ryan, this is a part of country that's seen this kind of unrest before. We should mention last month was the third anniversary of the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, not far from in that area.

Getting back to this case, Jason Stockley, the officer that was acquitted, he responded to the acquittal yesterday. What did he say in.

YOUNG: He did. The in fact he talked to the local paper here about this 2011 case. I want to tell you something, Boris, people are shocked. There was video of this and they believed you can see some of the evidence in this that they thought maybe this would lead to some sort of conviction. But that did not happen. And you're absolutely right. There are a lot of sore feelings about what happened three years ago.

Let's listen to the officer talk about what happened in this case.


JASON STOCKLEY, FORMER ST. LOUIS POLICE OFFICER: I can tell you with absolute certainty that there was no plan to murder Anthony Smith during a high-speed vehicle pursuit. It's just not the case. And I wish that I could tell you exactly what that was. And what it meant, whether it was just heat of the moment or part of a larger conversation. I really don't -- I just don't remember.


YOUNG: Boris, to be clear here, some of the things people talked about, in 2011, they did try to stop Mr. Smith and, all of a sudden, he backed his car into the officer's vehicle. There was a chase and words exchanged that were caught on that videotape that a lot of people were upset about. The officer was carrying his own personal A.K.-47. That's not the weapon he used. There were five shots fired. People were questioning whether or not a gun was planted because only the officer's DNA was found on the revolver found at the scene. People thought there were a lot of red flags. But when the judge talked about the idea that the officers had every reason to believe that they were in fear of their lives, you could understand the conversation still happening here. People believe the justice system is broke. They want to change it. And they feel like, the last three years, nothing has significantly changed. They plan to protest throughout the afternoon. We even told they could be going to more malls. So, Boris, it could be busy.

SANCHEZ: The judge in that case saying he agonized over the details of it several times.

Ryan Young, in St. Louis, keep us posted. Thank you.

From Missouri, now, to -- or rather staying with this case, to understand why protests are taking to go the streets of St. Louis after Jason Stockley was acquitted of murder, it's necessary to go over what happened on that day.

CNN's Randi Kaye has the story of the killing of Anthony Lamar Smith.



RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): You're watching the final moments of a man's life. It's December 2011, and motorist Anthony Lamar Smith is being chased by St. Louis Police Officer Jason Stockley and his partner.



KAYE: The officers suspected he'd been involved in a drug deal.

The officers would later say, when they approached Smith, he jumped in his car and drove off, hitting the police cruiser and knocking Officer Stockley sideways. The officer fires several shots, saying he feared for his life and the safety of others.


KAYE: The high-speed chase tops 80 miles an hour. During the pursuit, Stockley is going heard saying, "Going to kill this blank, don't you know it."


KAYE: It's difficult to hear on the dash cam video, but court documents say that's what he said.


KAYE: The chase ends with a crash, which Smith survives. But when officers approach, an internal report says Stockley ordered Smith to show his hands and that he thought he saw Smith reach for a handgun. Officer Stockley fires four shots.


KAYE: Anthony Smith is struck in the chest and dies at the scene.

(on camera): An internal report says Officer Stockley entered his car to locate the weapon and render it safe and remove the ammunition from a silver revolver. According to the criminal complaint, forensic analysis revealed that only Officer Stockley's DNA was on the gun he said belonged to Smith. Officer Jason Stockley is relieved of his duties and charged with first-degree murder.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We all knew what it was when it happened. There couldn't be any doubt about it. We knew it was murder from the beginning.

KAYE (voice-over): Stockley's murder trial started last month. The key question, whether or not the motorist, Smith, had a gun at the time of the shooting. Prosecutors argued that the ex-officer may have planted the revolver in the car to justify the shooting. Even though multiple cameras captured the incident, the gun was never seen.

Still, in his not-guilty ruling, Judge Timothy Wilson said, "The gun would have been too large for Stockley to hide and then plant."

The judge said he'd reviewed the video footage innumerable times and that just because Smith's finger prints weren't on the gun didn't mean the driver didn't touch the gun.

Judge Wilson was left to determine whether the killing was intentional or a lawful use of deadly force by an officer acting in self-defense.

Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.


SANCHEZ: Randi, thank you for that.

We're going to keep an eye on the situation into the night and bring you any updates.

Moving now to Florida, where more than a million people are still without electricity this weekend after Hurricane Irma. There is some good news for frustrated people who live in the Florida Keys. They can now go home. It's the first chance for folks who evacuated ahead of the storm to see how badly their homes were damaged. The down side, though, there's very little in place to help people whose homes are uninhabitable. There are no public shelters, no running water or gas. And in some parts of the Keys, the flood waters have yet to actually recede.

CNN's Martin Savidge is in Key West.

Martin, what are people finding when they get back to their homes?

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, they're coming down to Key West, they're going to be in pretty good shape. As the mayor points out, they didn't suffer a lot of heavy damage. What they suffered from was a lot of ancillary things, like without power. That's getting better. They expect even tomorrow to be up to 100 percent. On top of that also been doing without water because they're at the last end of that 125-mile pipe that comes from the mainland, and that suffered heavily. They're doing better on that, too.

There were a lot of people remaining behind, maybe 10,000. Most are on Key West. That's why you have this operation going on. It's been going on for days. This is where they give out the relief aid. It's water, MREs and ice. Ice is what everybody wants because, without electricity, there's no way to really cool your food or cool anything you eat or drink.

Here's the problem. Last night, there was a very heated meeting that took place amongst all the county leadership, including the mayor of Key West. Key West wants to get open. They need to get people back and get this economic engine going. We didn't suffer that much damage. But the other Keys that people will have to pass through are devastated. And up there, the managers and law enforcement are saying, wait a minute, we can't have all these thousands of people transiting through what is essentially a blasted kind of countryside. So they went around and around. On top of that you're got all the tens of thousands evacuated saying please let me come home. Finally, last night, the political officials relented and said, as of today, half way down, you can start coming in the Marathon area. You'll be stopped up there. But the rest of the way down to the bottom here to Key West will be tomorrow.

And some people are going to come home and find they have really nothing left. And then the problem is what do they do? You already pointed out, there are no shelters opened up yet. There's going to be a lot of emotional stress, a lot of heart break. And there's a lot of realization that they are not going to be able to live this way. And so then you're probably going to see a lot of people turn around and leave again if they're fortunate enough to have some place else to go -- Boris?

[15:10:29] SANCHEZ: Very good point. The extent of damage still untold.

Martin, in the Florida Keys, thank you very much.

Coming up, President Donald Trump's deal with Democrat leaders, Chuck and Nancy, has many rank-and-file Republicans fuming and wondering about his allegiance to the party.

Plus, investigators want to know why an 18-year-old college freshman is dead and if fraternity hazing played a part. Live reporting, next.


[15:15:02] SANCHEZ: Outrage is growing over the Equifax data breach that exposed the personal and financial data of 143 million people. The Hack leaves Americans extremely vulnerable to theft, fraud and a number of other crimes for years to come.

If you're information in now in the hands of hackers, CNN's Alison Kosik has five things you can do now to protect yourself -- Alison?


ALISON KOSIK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Boris. For most consumers chances are some. Your personal or final information was compromised in the data breach. With 143 million accounts exposed by hackers, that's more than half of the U.S. adult population.

No matter if you're freaking out or not worried at all, there are five things to do to protect your credit and wallet right now.

First, check all three of your credit reports. You get a free look each other from each credit reporting agency, Equifax, Experian and Trans Union. Look for any new requests for credit or other suspicious activity. They may take a while to show up and it won't show you if someone has accessed your bank accounts.

Second, put a fraud alert on your credit report. Just contact one agency to do this. They have to contact the other two.

Also, keep a close eye on your bank accounts and credit card statements. Experts say, in most cases, theft happens over time. So get in the habit of checking your statements and accounts on line.

Fourth, sign up for free credit monitoring. If you go to the Equifax Web site, you can sign up there. It's free for a year and will alert you of any moves on your credit report.

Finally, if you're really worried, you can freeze your credit. This is an extreme step. It may carry a fee. A freeze blocks anyone from accessing your credit reports without your permission. But it also makes it more difficult for you to open a credit card or take out a loan.

And the other thing working against you, many consumers are rushing to do all of these same things, so be patient with each of these steps. Many agencies are flooded with requests and having a hard time keeping up with demand.

Bottom line, hackers may have your information and it's up to you to protect yourself -- Boris?


SANCHEZ: Important advice there.

Alison, thank you.

Now to a tragic story on a college campus. A preliminary autopsy report in a death of an LSU student finds he had a highly elevated blood alcohol level. Now police are investigating his death as a hazing incident. The coroner's office says tests show Maxwell Gruver, a Phi Delta Beta fraternity pledge, also had THC in his urine. THC is a chemical found in marijuana. Gruver was an 18-year-old freshman from Roswell, Georgia.

We're joined by CNN's Polo Sandoval with more details.

Polo, what is it that's indicating that hazing might have played a role in his death?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We do know this information, this preliminary information shows that is this is being treated as a possible hazing incident. But there are still so many unknowns. So much so that the university president at LSU is now suspending all Greek life events on the campus for now while this investigation pushes forward.

Here's what we do know at this point. There are these preliminary autopsy findings that, as you mentioned a little while ago, did show those high amounts of alcohol and also that chemical that's commonly found in marijuana in his system. So as a result, investigators are following up on this as a possible hazing incident.

However, they still have not determined an official cause of death quite yet. And they also have not made any arrests in this case, too. But what we have seen here and what we've heard from campus officials there at LSU is that they are seriously concerned here because they're investigating this as this hazing incident. Again, this is one of those situations where they will not know until perhaps more of those autopsy findings come back. In the meantime, campus officials are taking no chances and they're suspending any of those Greek life events there while they investigate.

SANCHEZ: Sure. I'm certain they also want to probably speak to several the fraternity brothers and pledge brothers that were there that night. Is the fraternity complying with the investigation?

SANDOVAL: They certainly are. In fact, they're launching an investigation of their own. The national chapter itself even suspending the chapter on the LSU campus. So there is cooperation from the organization itself. It is closing in on the fall semester here where many have already begun for several campuses. This is a concern we've seen before, not just at LSU, but obviously across the country, these hazing incidents we sadly have seen before.

SANCHEZ: Concern for every parent when you send a young one off to college.

Polo, thank you very much.

SANDOVAL: You bet. Thanks, Boris.

[15:19:42] SANCHEZ: Ahead, President Trump shocking Republicans. His deal with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi blind-siding his own party. But could Democrats be playing with fire? We'll discuss next. Stay with us.


SANCHEZ: President Trump possibly at odds with his own base. Key members of the GOP calling his latest agreement with Democrats a betrayal. He is hailing it as bipartisan. It came after his White House dinner with Democratic leaders, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, earlier this week. The trio say they agreed to move forward on DACA. That's the program allowing the undocumented immigrants entering the United States as children, also known as Dreamers, to stay in the U.S. The question is, at what cost.

Pelosi and Schumer say DACA will not be linked to border wall funding. And at one point, the president seemed to be on board, talking about paying for the wall at a later date. But shortly after, he repeated at least four times there will be nothing done on DACA unless he gets the wall. Listen.


[15:25:14] DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Very important is the wall to me. We have to know the wall will not be obstructed because without the wall, I won't do anything. We also have to get the wall. It doesn't have to be here, but they can't obstruct the wall, whether it's in a budget or something else when we're --



TRUMP: We have to have a wall. If the wall is going to be obstructed, when we need the funds a later date, we'll be determining how much we need, then we're not doing anything.


TRUMP: We'll only do it if we get extreme security. If we get not only surveillance, but everything that goes along with surveillance. And ultimately, we have to have the wall. If it we don't have the wall, we're doing nothing.


SANCHEZ: Joining me to discuss, Michael Scherer, the White House correspondent for "The New York Times," and April Ryan, a CNN political analyst and White House correspondent for the American Urban Radio Networks.

Michael, to you first.

Are we reading too far into this? Or are we witnessing an erosion of the establishment Republican influence right now?

MICHAEL SCHERER, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, THE NEW YORK TIMES: Well, I think what we know is it's eroded for the moment. I think what none of us really are able to say for sure is whether this is a lasting phenomenon. Donald Trump is a different kind of politician. He got elected not being as connected to the Republican Party. You remember the fights with the establishment Republicans that he ran against during the primaries and back and forth during the sort of final days of the general election where a lot of establishment Republicans ran away from him. So there was never a sense he was going to be chummy and sort of one of the gang. But what we don't know is whether this is a momentary impulse by him to sort of get one thing done, or a couple of things done and that he'll return to the Republican Party or whether this is really something that he views as permanent. We'll have to see for that.

SANCHEZ: April, I don't need to tell you some of the things that Donald Trump has said about Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. But just for our viewers, he called Schumer Fake Tears Schumer. He's called him a clown. He's also said he has a great relationship with Chuck Schumer. But I did hear from a White House official that said he would talk to anyone to get something done. Shouldn't Democrats be applauding the president, even though he said some negatives things before, for reaching across the aisle now?

APRIL RYAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: If you look at politics, yes, but this is a little deeper than politics. The this is now what is the motive of this relationship. And people are very concerned. This is a different politician. As Michael said, it's different politician. He is still feeling his way.

Let's go back in history, or at least the last three presidents. Bill Clinton tried to have unity with the Republican Party. George W. Bush, when he first walked in to the White House, he said, I'm calling for unity. Then Barack Obama, let's look at the most recent past president. I remember Democrats having a fit about him meeting with John Boehner. And the Republicans loved it. They're like this is fine. But Democrats were having a problem. Then the president talked with Democrats and Republicans on issues of ACA. There were 99 amendments from the Republicans for ACA. Then you have to remember the president then, President Obama, met with Republicans on the budget.

This is nothing new but it's just the new dynamic and how it's been presented and how it's been for the last eight months. Presidents have met with the other side to get things done. But the issue is what is the motive, and can this last? Is it going to work for the good of the people?

SANCHEZ: Sure, it's also unexpected when the president and his allies have been so aggressive in going after some of these leaders in the Democratic Party. I do want to point out --

RYAN: Yes.

SANCHEZ: -- something that we've heard from those that consider themselves allies of the president.

Michael, Steve King, is saying the promises of the campaign have been blown up if trump aligns himself with Democrats and doesn't move forward with building the wall. We've also seen "Breitbart" call the president Amnesty Don. And look at this. Breitbart reporting Trump voters are now burning Make America Great Again hats, throwing them into fires. Does it alarm some in that kind of MAGA wing of the Republican Party that the president is so eager to go after Democrats when Republicans haven't really been able to accomplish much legislatively for him?

[15:30:00] SCHERER: You know, look, there is no doubt that there is a part, a sliver of the Trump base that is exceptionally angry about this because their key core issue maybe was immigration and it looks like he's turning his back on them. I'm a little suspicious or skeptical of the idea that the entire Trump coalition is fraying because of this.

I was in Huntington, West Virginia, for one of his recent rallies. They really love him. The people that come to those rallies are still firmly behind him.

I think that while the activists, the "Breitbarts" have a reason to be kind of putting up headlines like that because they want to keep pressure on him to not cave on the Democrats demands, my sense is that unless this really plays out differently than we expect, that he'll be back with the Republicans working on tax reform. You'll see other kind of right wing ideas that he'll embrace along with a whole host of different subjects and that this isn't going to be the kind of explosion of -- and dissolution of the Republican base and Trump base that everyone's predicting.


We went from hearing that Mexico would pay for the wall to now possible Democrats would perhaps agree to some kind of broader immigration reform that would include DACA that would potentially fund the wall. At least that's the way the president has tried to present it. Are they playing with fire here? Can't he use this, as some supporters of the president has described his latest move, as kind of a power play to say he brought Democrats to the table. They had an agreement on DACA but they wouldn't budge on the border wall so nobody gets anything. Don't the Democrats stand to lose on this perhaps?

APRIL RYAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, you know in the game of politics, it's always a gamble, I guess you would say. It depends which side you would listen to, to see which side is telling the truth. You have each side saying something. The truth is somewhere in the middle. But it really depends upon what is -- what pans out.

But the Democrats really have nothing to lose. And when I say nothing to lose, they haven't had a good relationship in the last eight months with this president so there's nothing on the table. If they can build -- it's all in their minds about what they can do to build. When they have a record, when they build and do things together, that's when they have something to lose. But at this time, it's nothing. They're trying to build on something. I think Democrats are still in the same place they were, even though they had this meeting. You have to remember this president could have had this meeting because he wanted to show the Republicans that, I can deal with other people, other than you, since we're not getting along. So the devil is in the details. This is not exactly something that it looks this way. There's a lot of stuff underneath.

SANCHEZ: A lot of stuff underneath. A lot more questions to ask that we don't have time for.

But we appreciate the time. April Ryan and Michael Scherer, thank you both for sharing your saturday with us.

SCHERER: Sure. Happy to be here.

SANCHEZ: Coming up, after being highly critical of the United Nations in the past, world leaders are preparing for President Trump's address next week before the General Assembly. What can we expect from his first ever address to the United Nations.

You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM.



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SANCHEZ: President Trump is about to make his first appearance at the United Nations. It's an organization he has not talked about in the most glowing terms.

To discuss, we bring in Elise Labott, our global affairs analyst. We also have political analyst, Josh Rogin, and Dave Rohde, our global affairs analyst.

Dave, to you first.

President Trump has said quite a bit about the United Nations. There are weak, incompetent. He's called it a club for people to get together and talk and have a good time. Essentially, calling them ineffective. Do you expect him on Tuesday to speak his heart or do you think he's going to be a bit more restrained?

[15:40:18] DAVID ROHDE, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: It's hard to know with President Trump. He's had several speeches where he sticks to the teleprompter. I think he'll be very critical on North Korea and Iran. He wants to confront those two countries. But in both of these issues, he has so alienated parts of the world, whether Europe, Mexico or China, that we can't really achieve our goals against North Korea and Iran without the support of other countries. That's the reality of the diplomacy.

SANCHEZ: When he said so much about the United Nations in such a negative light, do you think they'll take him seriously?

ROHDE: No. I think the message is we don't take the U.N. seriously. We don't take the world seriously. The U.S. is only sending about half of the diplomates that normally attend the U.N. General Assembly. I think there's a price to this. It appeals to his base in the United States and America first is, he won the election. But the rest of the world hears this and he's not a popular American leader. They're not eager to cooperate with him.

SANCHEZ: Elise, to you.

There's no question he's going to be addressing North Korea at the U.N. But after sanctions were passed against North Korea last week, Nikki Haley saying we've strangled them economically, the president said that's not that big a deal. How do world leaders, especially our allies in that part of the world and those or the Security Council, read those comments?

ELISE LABOTT, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think at this point, Boris, a lot of world leaders are trying to just be like, oh, that's President Trump, as David said, kind of speaking to his domestic political concerns. I think the sanctions that were passed, the countries on the council that are passing those sanctions and voted for them do think it's a big deal. I think if President Trump wants to bring the world around to implementing some of these sanctions for all members of the United Nations, he's going to need those countries to believe that they're important. So I think it will be very interesting to hear what President Trump says about this. I mean I think, you know a lot of times they say that's just President Trump, that's a tweet. I think this is much going to be at the United Nations about the U.S. role in the world as much as it's going to be about North Korea or any other issues. That's why I think all eyes are really going to be on President Trump. Does he speak to his political domestic base or is he going to speak to the world? If you remember, when he met some U.N. Security Council ambassadors, he talked about U.N. reform. I think that will be a big part of the speech, too. He said the money the U.S. is spending is peanuts if the U.N. were to get its act together. Whether he's going to go rogue and say it's a waste of time and money or follow his U.N. ambassador, Nikki Haley, and say we want to help the U.N. to reach its potential, it will be interesting to see.

SANCHEZ: The president is also said to host a series of by lateral meetings this week. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, King Abdulla of Jordan among them. What do you expect, Josh, will be his priorities in those discussions?

JOSH ROGIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: These are a round of regular check-in meetings without big deliverables expected. The key meetings will be a lunch he's having with the Japanese and South Korean leaders on North Korea. His meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu, which will be related to the Iran deal and also the Israeli/Palestinian peace talks. And then check-ins with other allies like Egypt and Jordan.

The broad picture here that there's a reason the United Nations General Assembly is held in the United States, because the United States, since World War II, has been at the forefront, a leader in setting up the liberal world order that the United Nations is meant to bolster and represent. What all of these world leaders don't know is whether or not the Trump administration and President Trump, in particular, is committed to upholding, much less leading that world order in the years to come. That will be the clear question on the minds of these leaders as they meet with him and listen to him. And if you listen to Nikki Haley and General McMaster speak, you would get the impression we're going to continue to play that role, but President Trump doesn't necessarily agree with that.

SANCHEZ: Josh, and David, mentioned the Iran nuclear deal. We passed a big deadline, the president letting it slide by. Very quickly, I wanted to get your impression what the message is going to be for Iran.

ROHDE: Very tough. Iran is destabilizing the region. The U.S. is going could confront them. The question is how? Are we willing to use military force aggressively against Iran because that would destabilize oil markets and create tremendous turmoil?

[15:45:01] SANCHEZ: Tremendous turmoil. David and Josh, thank you so much.

Elise, still have a ton more questions for you on North Korea, so we will see you again in just a bit.

Thank you all for the time.

As the White House gears up for the U.N. General Assembly, be sure to watch "State of the Union" with Jake Tapper tomorrow morning. He'll be speaking with Ambassador Nikki Haley and Senator Dianne Feinstein. Do not miss that.

Now we go to the border between Myanmar and Bangladesh where the United Nations said some 400,000 ethnic Muslim refugees are fleeing what the U.N. calls ethnic cleansing by Myanmar's Buddhist majority.

CNN international correspondent, Alexandra Field, is in one of those refugee camps on the border -- Alex?


ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We're just a few miles from the border of Myanmar where the United Nations says it's seeing a textbook case of ethnic cleansing. That has triggered a humanitarian crisis that has sent 400,000 Rohingya Muslim refugees streaming across the border right into Bangladesh in just about three weeks. The official camps are already full. These people are setting up whatever kind of shelter they can find. They've got tarps. This is where entire families and communities are now living. They're sitting along the sides of the road trying to make their way into other settlements. They are badly in need of food, water and medical care. International aid organizations tell us they see people arriving with gunshot wounds. They also see people injured by land mines. There's pregnant woman who are arriving so malnourished and sick that they are giving birth to babies that international aid organizations say cannot survive. They say some of these babies are born, they die, and they're buried right in the mud. That is the scale of the kind of catastrophe that we are witnessing here.

There are already some 400,000 Rohingya refugees living here in Bangladesh, having fled from Myanmar during previous bouts of violence. This latest exodus was triggered by an outbreak of violence that began on August 25 when Rohingya militants were said to have attacked a border, a number of border security posts. The military responded with a campaign that has left some 1,000 people dead. Again, this is something the United Nations is calling a textbook case of ethnic cleansing. The military says they are driving terrorists out of the country.

Four-hundred thousand fleeing that country in three weeks. International aid organizations say there's no way they can keep up with the demand required by those arriving in Bangladesh every day by the tens of thousands. We have seen handouts of water, of food, of various supplies, but those things are being given to the most vulnerable parts of the population, the sick children, women. Of course, these aid organizations say with the supplies they have up against the number of people they're trying to serve, they're only beginning to scratch the surface and that an international effort it truly needed in order to deliver the kind of help they need.

In Bangladesh, near the border with Myanmar, Alexandra Field.


SANCHEZ: Alex, thank you.

From a tragic situation to at least a more uplifting one. In South Africa, more than two million children are AIDS orphans. This week's "CNN Hero" opened her heart and home to care for the orphans abandoned and sick children within her own community. Meet the woman known simply as Momma Rosie.



MOMMA ROSIE, CNN HERO: I have a big heart for children and for people in this community.


MOMMA ROSIE: Our center now has become a place of hope. All the children who are placed here, they say that, I got my house, I got my home. There's a mother waiting for me.

The basic thing we're giving them is the love.


SANCHEZ: To see the incredible live-saving work Rosie does to help children in dire need, go to

We'll be right back.



[15:53:19] MELISSA MCCARTHY, ACTRESS & COMEDIAN: And our president will not --


-- be deterred --



MCCARTHY: -- in his fight against radical Mooslambs.


Does anybody else have any questions.

UNIDENTIFIED COMEDIAN: Yes, "Wall Street Journal." Are you OK?




SANCHEZ: We all miss Spicy, except for maybe Sean Spicer. That was actress, Melissa McCarthy, playing the role of the former White House press secretary on "Saturday Night Live," a performance that won her an Emmy. The actress received the award for Outstanding Guest Actress in a comedy series. These awards were handed out ahead of tomorrow's big event.

After McCarthy won her Emmy for playing the former White House press secretary, the man himself, Sean Spicer, appeared on late night with Jimmy Kimmel joked about the "SNL" skits, showing his sense of humor. Watch.


JIMMY KIMMEL, HOST, JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE: The president didn't think that was funny?

SEAN SPICER, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I don't think he found as much humor as others.

KIMMEL: Was he particularly annoyed at the fact that a woman was playing you?

SPICER: I really didn't ask a ton of questions.



SPICER: That may have been a contributing factor.

KIMMEL: What a no-win situation that is. They're making fun of me and you're mad at me for it.

SPICER: Yes, and she wins an Emmy.

KIMMEL: I know, and then she won an Emmy.



[15:54:45] SANCHEZ: At least he can laugh about it.

The big Emmy awards show is tomorrow night. "SNL" is tied with the show "West World" for the most primetime Emmy nominations this year. CNN is going to have special coverage tomorrow ahead of the big event. Be sure to tune in for that.

The next hour of NEWSROOM starts after a quick break.


SANCHEZ: It is just about 4:00 p.m. on the east coast. I'm Boris Sanchez, in New York, in this weekend for Ana Cabrera. We thank you so much for joining us this weekend.

We are following breaking news out of St. Louis. The city is bracing for more protests today after a former police officer was acquitted of murder in the death of a black motorist.




SANCHEZ: This was the scene at an impromptu protest near St. Louis today. Protesters chanting "Black Lives Matter" --