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U.K. Police Arrest Suspect In London Subway Attack; U.K. Leaders Upset Over Trump's Tweets On Subway Attack; Protests Erupt After Ex-Cop Found Not Guilty In Black Man's Death; Ex-Cop Maintains Death Was Justified Despite Outcry; Storm Could Potentially Hit U.S. East Coast. Aired 6-7a ET

Aired September 16, 2017 - 06:00   ET

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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: The breaking news this morning happening just minutes ago, U.K. police say they have made a significant arrest in the London underground bombing attack. An 18- year-old man we know is in custody and this morning, the subway station is open again.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: The U.K. terror threat, though, is at critical level. The highest still meaning another attack may be imminent and an increased police presence is expected around the city as well.

Now we know at least 29 people were injured after a homemade bomb went off on a train. ISIS is claiming responsibility for the blast, but police are downplaying that claim because there's no evidence of its involvement thus far.

CNN's Nina Dos Santos live for us from London right outside the underground station where the blast took place. Nina, what is the latest you're hearing about this arrest?

NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN MONEY EUROPE EDITOR: Thanks very much, Christie. Well, as you were saying before it's an 18-year-old man who's being apprehended by (inaudible) police in the southeast of the United Kingdom at the Port of Dover.

And I should mention that the Port of Dover is a significant exit point from the British Isles across the channel over to France and then to the rest of the European mainland.

At this point, all we know is that this arrest is being deemed significant and that this person has been arrested under the Terrorism Act in connection with the events at Parsons Green yesterday.

We do not know at the present time what the nature of the individual's role was in this particular incident and indeed whether or not they are working with anybody else. We also don't have their identity yet.

And as the police a trying to track down these types of pieces of information, they've also said that since a lot of what they're doing at the moment in terms of the investigation is going on in covert fashion, they will not for the moment be adding any more at least at the present time to this statement.

They have been very poring through CCTV footage at this station, other stations along the lines. There's only five stations between the south of the line in Parson Green here where somebody could have deposited this particular device on the train.

And also, they'll be looking through forensic evidence as well and the online fingerprints of this particular individual, anybody who may have been linked to the Parsons Green event this time yesterday to find out whether they had been searching online for how to make a bomb, how to make this type of supposed TATP bomb and put it on a train. So that's the latest.

PAUL: So, I have to assume that there's increased presence you're seeing in terms of police around the city, but also because this is an arrest, are they expecting more arrests? Do they think that this was a lone wolf so to speak or part of a group?

DOS SANTOS: Well, that's probably why the police at the moment are not being dune on this issue. I can read you a statement that came from the deputy assistant commissioner (inaudible) just moments ago, when they confirmed that they have made this arrest of an 18-year-old man.

He said this arrest will lead to more activity from our offices. The strong investigative reasons, we will not give any more details on the man that we arrested at this stage.

This is largely because he may well have been in contact with somebody else. So, they want to keep his identity secret at this point in case this was part of a larger network.

Now for people here at places like Parsons Green, less than 48 hours before the morning, Monday morning rush hour commute is set to start again, the fact that an arrest has been made will be some comfort to the people here and the other almost 9 million people who call London their home.

But authorities, remember, they are foiled a number of plots so far, this year, but five of them have still gone through. Four of them have hit the U.K. capital and a lot of questions will be asked whether or not this 18-year-old was already on a surveillance watch list. You can bet the conversation will start to turn towards that in the next few hours.

PAUL: No doubt about it. Nina Dos Santos, thank you so much. We appreciate it.

BLACKWELL: Well, certainly after the attack happened in London yesterday, President Trump went to Twitter to talk about it suggesting the suspect was known to authorities there.

Here's the tweet, "Another attack in London by a loser terrorist. These are sick and demented people who were in the sites of Scotland Yard, must be proactive." But his tweets were not received well by British leaders. The prime minister said this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

THERESA MAY, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: I never think it's helpful for anybody to speculate on what is an ongoing investigation. As I've just said the police and security services are working to discover the full circumstances of this cowardly attack and to identify all those responsible.

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BLACKWELL: The White House says that President Trump later spoke with Prime Minister Theresa May there to relay his condolences, but although White House National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster tried to explain the president's tweet, he offered very little clarity.

Let's bring in now Sara Westwood, the White House correspondent for the "Washington Examiner," and Errol Louis, CNN political commentator and political anchor for Spectrum News. Good morning to both of you.

[06:05:05] ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Good morning.

BLACKWELL: So let's start there with H.R. McMaster, the national security advisor there in attempting to clear up not initially the first half of this declaring that it was a terror attack before we initially heard from the British authorities, but that they were in sight of Scotland Yard. Here's what McMaster said about that.

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H.R. MCMASTER, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: What the president was communicating is that obviously all of our law enforcement efforts are focused on this terrorist threat for years. Scotland Yard has been a leader as our FBI has been a leader.

So, I think if there was a terrorist attack here, God forbid, that we would say that they were in the sights of the FBI so I think he didn't mean anything beyond that. I think he means generally this kind of activity is what we're trying to prevent.

And so, these organizations that are responsible for it, whatever comes outs of this investigation, that remains to be seen. It is likely that law enforcement had been working on that problem soon.

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BLACKWELL: So, none of us is inside the president's head, right, Errol, and we don't know if General McMaster had a conversation with the president about that specific phrase, but is this just a clumsy cleanup job? Is there any clarity here? What did you get from the explanation from the NSA?

LOUIS: I think clumsy cleanup job is the right way to put it. The most striking and in some ways troubling phrase is to hear the national security adviser say I think he means meaning it's purely cleanup. I think what he meant by this tweet was x, y and z as opposed to having what in the past administration was called a policy meaning a statement of sort of core principles, of values, and of the United States' intention in all of this.

What we have here on the other hand is an advisor just like the communications director, just like the other cabinet secretaries, trying to make sense of something that the commentator-in-chief chose to sort of fling out there without any regard for whether or not it's accurate or what impact it might have.

BLACKWELL: Sarah, I want to move on to another element, but before we move off of this, I mean, we know that just minutes before the president sent that tweet out on his favorite television show "Fox and Friends" on that talk show they were talking about if these -- if the attack or attackers were known to authorities and then we have this.

General Kelly, the chief of staff has been working to kind of filter the information that comes to the president. It's hard to get between the president and "Fox and Friends," that's still a problem for this White House.

SARAH WESTWOOD, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, "WASHINGTON EXAMINER": Absolutely. I mean, I think we've seen the President Trump's Twitter feed mellow out in recent weeks. That's likely a reflection of John Kelly's efforts to crack down on the kinds of information that reaches president's desk, but it seems like one of two things happened here.

Either President Trump speculated without any basis and real information or he shared classified information that he shared through a briefing improperly. Neither of those things are good or helpful for the president and H.R. McMaster was asked that in the briefing yesterday. He was not really able to distinguish which of those two things happened.

BLACKWELL: All right. So, Errol, you heard from Prime Minister May there saying that the president's speculation was unhelpful. I jot a few others down here. The U.K. briefly paused intelligence sharing with the U.S. after the Manchester bombing because some evidence was published here in the U.S.

The president criticized the London mayor after the attack there in June. That went back and forth. Is there some compounding impact here of this growing contentious relationship with one of the U.S.'s oldest allies or did some of this just become white noise with the president who is quicker to talk than to analyze?

LOUIS: Well, there's a certain amount of chaos that is not particular to the U.K. and this is the thing that I think everybody should be concerned about, which is that, you know, photos from the Manchester bombing are making their way into the media and it's not clear where they come from and there's such concern that the British say that we've got to change our relationship.

Perhaps we don't have to share as much information as we have. That puts everyone in danger. When we have the prime minister saying what the president of the United States has said and done is not helpful, that puts a wedge between allies and that is, you know, music to the ears of the terrorists, frankly.

BLACKWELL: What's your take, Sarah? Is there some growing as it relates between intelligence sharing government to government, leader to leader, is there some erosion as this goes on month after month?

WESTWOOD: Well, I think what you're describing three different events, those three things are all kind of distinct from each other. The Manchester photos didn't emanate from Trump himself. They were leaks from within the government. The kind of leaks that President Trump has tasked his Department of Justice with cracking down on.

What happened yesterday is not entirely clear if it was President Trump himself sharing classified information, that would be something that would concern British leaders when it comes to intelligence sharing.

If it was President Trump reflecting on what he had just seen on "Fox and Friends" without any real basis and intelligence then no, I don't think it would affect the intelligence sharing relationship, but the details of what happened aren't clear because National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster was not able to provide an answer yesterday.

[06:10:09] BLACKWELL: OK. All right. Sarah Westwood, Errol Louis, thank you so much for being with us.

PAUL: New overnight, the former St. Louis officer acquitted in the shooting death of a black man in 2011 is talking for the first time. Jason Stockley says it feels like a burden has been lifted.

BLACKWELL: So, the verdict, there was a lot of outrage across the city after it came down most demonstrators marched peacefully through the streets for hours calling for justice in the death of Anthony Lamar Smith, even blocking traffic at some time.

PAUL: There were some protesters that were so angry with the decision that they set fire to the American flag, the mayor's house was pelted with paint and rocks. Nine officers, one state trooper, were injured and at least 23 people were arrested.

BLACKWELL: CNN's Ryan Young was there in St. Louis walking side by side with those protesters observing everything happening around him. Here's what he saw.

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RYAN YOUNG, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Things in St. Louis got intense overnight. If you look down the way here, you can see the officers who decided to make a line and tell the protesters it was time to go home. We'll have to show you this dramatic video outside the mayor's house. It was a mostly peaceful protest throughout the night.

Protesters marching for miles stopping in intersections even in front of the hospital, but when they got to the mayor's house, someone decided they wanted to break the windows and we actually got that part on tape.

Once that happened officers swarmed the neighborhood and once they swarmed the neighborhood they asked the protesters to leave. That happened with some force, some tear gas. People did move on.

For most of the night it's been peaceful. Protesters have been marching and talking about a change for justice. They want to see something done. A lot hasn't healed here ever since Michael Brown and what happened in Ferguson.

So, tonight you saw a multicultural group walking through the streets of St. Louis talking about change, wanting the neighborhoods to know that they want to see something different happen.

But by the end of the night, obviously, some emotions got maybe a little too heated. In fact, we even saw this in the middle of the street. Protesters using this to clean out their eyes after that tear gas got into their nostrils and into their face.

So far, police have been able to move people back, but the helicopters remain up in the sky as they continue to look for people who decided not to go home. Ryan Young, CNN, St. Louis.

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BLACKWELL: All right. So, in just a few minutes the ex- police officer who was acquitted in this controversial killing says he feels vindicated.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As far as how I feel right now, I'm obviously currently pleased that there was a -- that the right verdict came down, and it -- it feels like a burden is lifted. But the burden of having to kill someone never really lifts.

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PAUL: We'll hear more from him in just a couple of moments.

Also, yet another storm threatening the U.S. mainland now. We are going to bring you the latest forecast and what areas are under the cone of uncertainty this time.

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BLACKWELL: The dramatic dashcam video captured the moment that former Police Officer Jason Stockley shot and killed Anthony Lamar Smith. The video was at the center of this high-profile murder trial. The prosecutors argued that Stockley planted evidence, but as CNN's Jean Casarez reports, the judge did not agree.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A high-speed chase caught on police dash cam. Two St. Louis police officers pursuing a 24-year-old black man, Anthony Lamar Smith, in December, 2011.

Prosecutors claim Officer Jason Stockley in the passenger seat can be heard saying during the chase, quote, "We're killing this mf-word, don't you know." Less than a minute later after catching up and purposefully crashing into Smith's car, Stockley on the right is seen opening fire, shooting Smith several times, killing him.

The defense say Smith refused commands to put up his hands and reached in the area where the gun was. Stockley later testified that he feared for his life. Defense attorneys pointed out that in contrast, Stockley's partner never drew his weapon at any time.

Police say a gun was found in Smith's car, but prosecutors claim it was planted. The only DNA on the weapon, Stockley's. Dash cam video after the shooting shows Stockley rifling through a duffel bag in his squad car.

Prosecutors questioned what he was doing. The defense argued that he was looking for medical supplies to save Smith's life. It all began when Stockley and his partner tried to corner Smith in the parking lot of a fast food restaurant believing they caught him in a drug deal.

Stockley testified he thought he saw a gun as Smith fled. The trial was heard by a lone judge and finding Stockley not guilty, Judge Wilson wrote that he agonizingly poured over every piece of evidence and he found that prosecutors did not prove Stockley's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Jean Casarez, CNN, New York.

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PAUL: Jason Stockley, the ex-officer acquitted in those killings says he knows everyone wants to blame someone but says I'm not the guy. He spoke exclusively to the St. Louis post dispatch.

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JASON STOCKLEY, FORMER OFFICER ACQUITTED IN 2011 SHOOTING DEATH: I did not murder Anthony Lamar Smith. I did not plant a gun. As I testified at trial, and -- and the homicide on the day of, it was an imminent threat to my life. I had to.

[06:20:02] The taking of a life is the most significant thing that one can do, and it's not something that is done lightly. It's not something that should ever be celebrated and it's just a horrible experience altogether, but sometimes it's necessary.

But sometimes it's necessary. This is a completely reactionary event. If he takes off in a car, we follow. He turns left, we turn left, and unfortunately, you're reacting in those few seconds and you have to make decisions based on limited information and limited time.

And they're the most important decision you could ever make because it could be the last and it's a very stressful and in the end, regardless of what happens, nobody wins. I do not remember stating that I was -- that we or I are going to kill this (inaudible) don't you know it.

The first time that I heard that was when I met with the FBI and I gave them the same answer that I'm giving you now, which is I don't recall saying it, but I never denied it. I can tell you with absolute certainty that there was no plan to murder Anthony smith during a high-speed vehicle pursuit.

It's just not the case and I wish that I could tell you exactly what that was and what it meant whether it was just heat of the moment or whether it was part of a larger conversation. I really don't -- I just don't remember.

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BLACKWELL: All right. We'll have more on that story throughout the morning. We're also following breaking news from London. Police there say they have arrested someone in connection with an explosion on a commuter train. Up next, we've got the latest on what we know about this arrest.

PAUL: Also, first it was Harvey, then it was Irma and now it's Jose. Another storm, yes, is now marching closer to the U.S. mainland. It has shifted again. We'll bring you the very latest forecast. Stay close.

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PAUL: The sun is coming up ever so slowly on a Saturday morning. Look at the capitol. Beautiful shot there as a lot is going to be going on in Washington as it always is.

BLACKWELL: That sounds like a really good either R and B song, a country song, the sun is coming up ever so slowly. I don't know what's coming after that, but that's a good start to a song.

PAUL: My goodness, we'll break out in song a little bit later.

BLACKWELL: No, I sure won't. All right --

PAUL: Happy Saturday to you. Thanks for being with us here.

BLACKWELL: A moment of levity there. Good to be with you. Let's get back to the breaking news though. London police have arrested an 18- year-old man in connection with Friday's explosion on a commuter train. They call this a significant arrest, nothing more, but they say this will not change the terror threat level.

PAUL: Which is already at its level and they are leaving it there they say. Britain's prime minister has raised it, as I said, to critical and officials believe another terror attack could be imminent here. Thirty people were injured in the explosion, most of them from burns. Hundreds of detectives are on this case and they have the support of British intelligence there. We know millions in the Caribbean and Florida are still dealing with what Hurricane Irma left them with and in that there's another storm brewing in the Atlantic.

BLACKWELL: Yes, a Hurricane Jose could threaten the northeast U.S. this week. Let's go to Allison Chincar live in the CNN Weather Center for the latest. I mean, we had Harvey, and then Irma and then Jose seemed as it would kind of spin and head northeast, but maybe not so much.

ALLISON CHINCAR, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Trust me. The weather department is ready for a week off of having to cover one of these so were a lot of folks who are just are sick and tired of watching the coverage of all these people who have lost everything.

Now the one good news is Hurricane Jose is not expected to get to the strength level that Harvey and Irma were. However, with that said, we did see it strengthen overnight now with winds up to 80-miles-per- hour, wind gusts up to 100 miles per hour.

It is expected to stay a Category 1 storm for at least the next couple of days before it enters into much cooler water. Here's the thing, though, later on this afternoon, we expect the storm to expand in size.

In doing so, some of those outer bands are likely to reach portions of the Coastal Carolinas. Because of that, it is possible that the National Hurricane Center, they have said it's possible that they could be issuing tropical storm watches as early as today.

Now the big question is further on when we start getting into Tuesday and Wednesday of this week. About Wednesday morning this line makes the storm parallel by about 225 miles due east of New York City.

The thing is, the margin of error for the cone is also 225 miles, which is why cities like New York and cities like Boston are still within the realm of possibilities in terms of a potential landfall.

You've seen these maps a lot the last couple of weeks comparing the American model to the blue, which is the European model. Both of these as we go Tuesday into Wednesday get awfully close, especially around areas of Massachusetts, Rhode Island and also into areas of Connecticut and potentially having a landfall in that region.

Now with that said that is not the only place that is going to see impacts from Jose. As the storm pushes up the east coast, it is going to cause that current to push all of that water back along the east coast in the form of rip currents.

So, Victor, Christie, one thing to note, regardless of whether or not this has official landfall in the north east, folks from Maine all the way down to Florida are still going to feel impacts from this storm in the form of incredibly strong rip currents.

As well as folks from North Carolina to the north up towards Maine could end up potentially having incredibly heavy rainfall as well as tropical storm, if not hurricane force winds.

BLACKWELL: All right. Allison Chinchar, watching it for us. Allison, thanks so much.

PAUL: Meanwhile on the -

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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Allison Chinchar watching it for us. Allison, thanks so much.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Meanwhile, on the Island of St. John, there are two teenage brothers who survived Hurricane Irma. They have each other, but that's about all they have.

BLACKWELL: Yes. They lost everything else, but there is a reason to smile courtesy of country music star Kenny Chesney. Sara Sidner reports.

SARA SIDNER, CNN REPORTER: A heart felt good-bye to the complete stranger who took the Bruce brothers in after the storm. The teenagers were on St. John when Hurricane Irma blasted the island and decimated the home they grew up in while they were inside.

JAH-HAILE BRUCE, ST. JOHN RESIDENT: We were in the shower, laying down against-against a concrete wall and five minutes later the roof gets ripped off our head.

JAHIBIOSEH BRUCE, ST. JOHN RESIDENT: That's the moment where I was terrified because I felt like Irma was a spirit because like I felt like I saw the hand grab the roof, squeeze it and throw it off into the wind. It was just-it was crazy.

SIDNER: They survived alongside their grandfather but the winds tore nearly everything else apart on the island.

BRUCE: I feel like the best way is to picture a car on the highway going 185 miles an hour, you feel the wind on your hand outside, picture your body outside and you feel you're going at that speed. That's what it felt like.

SIDNER: When it was all over, they were left with nothing. Their childhood home gone along with almost everything in it.

BRUCE: There's basically nothing to go back to on St. John.

SIDNER: The brothers were picked up by a private boat like this one to St. Croix taking in supplies and picking up evacuees. That's where they met Sue. Her sons own the boat. She took one look at the boys and said you are staying with me. Not in a shelter. What are your lives going to look like now since the house is gone?

BRUCE: We're trying to make it to Philadelphia. Our mother is there right now.

SIDNER: But there were no flights out of the island. Then an unexpected gift arrived.

BRUCE: I don't know what to say, but thank you. I heard that the guy wanted to stay anonymous. Thank you very much.

SIDNER: The brothers were told an anonymous donor had donated his private jet to fly them to safety. We found out who that anonymous donor was. It's country star Kenny Chesney.

BRUCE: I kept saying one day this is going to be one hell of a story to tell. It's going to be one good story to tell.

BRUCE: I know and now we're on CNN telling the story. It's crazy.

SIDNER: Soon they'll be telling the story to their mother anxiously awaiting their arrival back in Philadelphia. Sara Sidner, CNN, US Virgin Islands.

BLACKWELL: And thanks to Sarah for that story. All right. The breaking news this morning, authorities in London making what they call a significant arrest in the case of that bombing yesterday. London police also believe that another attack in the UK could be imminent. Next, the latest on the investigation as ISIS claims responsibility for the explosion on a subway.

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BLACKWELL: The president doubled down on his stance that people on both sides are to blame for the protests in Charlottesville last month. The comments came a day after his meeting with the only black Republican who condemned him over his remarks weeks early.

PAUL: The President said this about the meeting with Tim Scott.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think especially in light of the advent of Antifa, if you look at what's going on there, you know, you have some pretty bad dudes on the other side also and essentially that's what I said. Now because of what's happened since then, with Antifa, you look at, you know, really what's happened since Charlottesville, a lot of people are saying - in fact, a lot of people have actually written, "Gee, Trump might have a point." I said, "You got some very bad people on the other side also," which is true.

PAUL: The Senator Scott said he didn't go into the meeting trying to change who the President was but to educate a different perspective. The violence in Charlottesville not only ignited a conversation obviously about race in America but also about white Nationalists and how they become radicalized. I spoke with a man who decided to go undercover online as a white Supremacist to learn more about the ideology. Listen to this.

PAUL: What was it like to pose as a white supremacist and have conversations with people who we would assume would hate you if they knew who you were?

THEO WILSON, BLACK MAN POSES AS WHITE SUPREMACIST ONLINE: Yes. You know what? It was one of those things where you can see that these people are very committed to their opinion, but it was exhilarating. It was ironic and it was a little bit scary to be frank with you, but ultimately, you're talking to another human being who sees the world different from you and you have to keep that in mind.

PAUL: Did you come to any sort of understanding as to where they come from?

WILSON: I did. The understanding that I came to at least glean from the experience is that we all have political point of views about these hot-button issues that get reinforced by our social strata and if you're not careful the people around you will reinforce you to a hateful position and they're victims of circumstance a lot of the time.

PAUL: In an interview you said you realized that they had questions that they were trying to get answered as well. What were they?

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WILSON: The questions they were trying to get answered often times had to do with, for example, a perceived double standard in how white people were treated versus how black people were treated just off the basis of their skin color. It perceives a loss of entitlement, a perceived loss of opportunity due to the new political strata and changing demographic that I mean, if I was in a position I think that I would also be afraid of those things too given what I have been educated on if I came from that side of the world. So some concerns about the future if you will.

PAUL: I want to read an excerpt from the interview that you did where you were talking about some fair points kind of as you were just talking about, some fair points that you identified and this is what you said just so our viewers have an understanding here. You said I think it's a fair point that leftists are widely tolerant of all kinds of people that are hateful to those who hold conservative values. There are people who actually believe in God with all their heart.

WILSON: Yes.

PAUL: There are people who cannot cognitively conceive a guy kissing a guy. That doesn't mean they are seconds away from a hate crime. There is a legitimate human need to want to hold on to tradition in any culture. That's deep. That's thought provoking. Does it surprise you to come out of this project with fair points? WILSON: Yeah I was surprised because, honestly, I did not realize that I was living in an echo chamber that reinforced my own points of views and my own values. The thing about this is that we have a situation here where there is change, and any change is scary especially if you've been on the winning side of how things used to be and that often is what we call a conservative, someone who wishes to conserve the values of the culture that they live in. And so when- when people from the left assail people from the right, with terminologies that really say that you're the worst kind of human being, then they deny the right-the kind of nuance that they would wish to be viewed through and I think that we who would consider ourselves perhaps more liberal need to be mindful of how we address folks who don't see the world the way that we do.

PAUL: This is part of my conversation with Theo Wilson on what he learned when going undercover and we thank him so much for sharing his thoughts with us. Really interesting there.

BLACKWELL: Absolutely. To breaking news though, we want to get more on this. The significant arrest in the London subway bombing.

PAUL: New details on why another terror attack on the UK could be imminent.

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BLACKWELL: London police have arrested an 18-year-old man in connection with Friday's explosion on a commuter train.

PAUL: The UK's terrorist threat level is still at critical right now but the number of people injured has gone up. Thirty now reported to have been injured most of them burned and hundreds of detectives are working with British Intelligence on this investigation. Now remember ISIS claimed responsibility for the explosion, but gave no evidence to back up that claim. Isis says a quote, detachment from the group carried out the attack. London police say Isis routinely claims involvement in terror attacks whether they truly had anything to do with them or not. So joining us now a terrorism expert, Sajjan Gohel, he's also an

International Security Director at the Asia-Pacific Foundation. Sajjan, thank you so much for being with us again. First of all I want to get to this terror threat at being at critical. Is that precautionary do you think or when they heighten the level to that regard especially after a terror attack, do you anticipate there will be more and will they be soon?

SAJJAN GOHEL, INTERNATIONAL SECURITY DIRECTOR, ASIA-PACIFIC FOUNDATION: So the decision to raise the threat level to critical is decided by what's called a joint terrorism analysis center. It's a fusion center that amalgamates the law enforcement intelligence community, and they make the decision independent of government. The last time it was raised to critical was following the bombing in The Manchester concert held by Arianna Grande. At that time the authorities were worried that the culprits may have been out on the loose. It was then established that was a suicide bombing. The reason why they've raised it now is because they know for a fact that there are people out there that were connected to this plot, so the threat has had to be raised because individuals can assemble one explosion -- explosive device they could potentially assemble others and it may be reduced over time but until the authorities complete their investigation it will remain at critical.

PAUL: So, John, they're characterizing this arrest this morning of this 18-year-old as a significant arrest. They're not calling him a suspect but what exactly does significant arrest pertain to?

GOHEL: My understanding is that he was arrested by the southeast counterterrorism unit at the Port of Dover, which is a strong suggest that this individual was trying to flee the U.K., probably ending up going to France by ferry. There is an ongoing active investigation; the authorities seem to believe that it could be larger than just one individual. The U.K. does their investigations very different to say the U.S. They try to keep everything closed door. They don't reveal too much information as it's an active investigation, but we will probably find out much more in the coming hours about this. The fact is that this was a significant threat. We're very lucky that no one was killed in this attack, but nevertheless, it has created major disruption in London and has had psychological impact as well.

PAUL: Which we know is part of the threat and part of the motive always in these. I want to talk about this bomb because we know that it was powerful but it was also poorly-constructed. Because of the way it was crafted what does that tell you about who may have been involved here and their experience in doing so?

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GOHEL: Earlier you were mentioning about how ISIS had claimed responsibility. That was done through their own self-styled new agency, Amaq. When they do that, it tends to be when they have been inspiring individuals. Or giving them encouragement to carry out an attack independent of the direct command and control of ISIS leaders and in Syria and we've seen that very often that many people take inspiration or assisted online by Isis and the chances are that the individual that put this together. He didn't travel to Iraq and Syria. He didn't get training by them, but never the less, he's possibly been communicating with is, handlers through encrypted messaging. This device, he may have not had much expertise but sometimes people are better at putting together explosive devices, so we shouldn't get complacent. The Manchester bomber, Salman Abedi, he also didn't travel to Syria but his device killed two dozen people. So we are very fortunate that technical mistakes were made to this device. But it's a reminder that we got lucky this time. The terrorists need to just get lucky once.

PAUL: Very good point, Sajjan Gohel. Thank you so much for your insight. Always learn something when you are with us. I appreciate it.

BLACKWELL: The Cleveland Indians back on the field last night trying to extend their record winning streak, Andy Scholes is here with more, Andy.

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR, CNN ATLANTA: Hey Vic, coming into last night the Indians had won 22 in a row, 4 away from the all time record. We are going to show you if they were able to keep their dream streak alive up next in the morning bleacher report.

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PAUL: Go Cleveland Indians.

BLACKWELL: I'm going to pull myself out of this conversation.

PAUL: I don't even care --

BLACKWELL:-- because we we've got Ohio here and she's passionate about it, I'm just going to sit here and be quiet.

PAUL: I was almost ready, Andy Phillips, to get a ticket and go home and see a game.

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT, CNN NEWS: Well you could still do that--you could still do it--

PAUL: -- so close, I'd still do it too --

SCHOLES: -- it just won't be a winning streak to go home to--

PAUL: -- so proud of them, so proud of them--

SCHOLES: --you know and understand all good things come to an end at some point-

PAUL: -- yes, whatever -

SCHOLES: -- and for the Indians 22 apparently was their magic number. Their winning streak coming into an end last night at the hands of the Kansas City Royals, 4-3 was their final score in Cleveland last night. And after the final out, the crowd of more than 34,000- - well they gave Indians a standing ovation for their incredible run. And the Indians did a pretty cool move right here, they stayed on the field and applauded their fans for all the support that they gave them during this incredible run. The Indians falling 4 games short of the all-time best winning streak of 26 straight, which was set by the 1916 New York Giants. The Indians right now, they do have the best record in the American League.

All right, tonight Canelo Alverez and Gennady Golovkin will get in the ring for one of the most anticipated boxing matches of all-time. Unlike the Mayweather , MacGreogor fight, these two guys both have extensive boxing credentials. Alverez and Golovkin considered two of the best pound for pound fighters in the world. Alverez has only lost once in his career that was to Mayweather Golovkin, has never lost. The odds makers right now think this match is a toss up; that should be a good one. All right, for the first time since Hurricane Irma, Tampa is hosting a big time sporting event. The University of South Florida is giving their fans plenty to cheer about in this game; they easily beat Illinois 47-23. And USF giving four free tickets to any first responder who wanted to attend the game that helped during Hurricane Irma; and Coach Charlie Strong also offered every high school team in the state free admission, and the school said more than 80 teams in Florida took the coach up on his offer.

All right, finally, Texans star J.J Watt wanted to raise just $200,000 for Hurricane Harvey relief. He ended up topping $37 million after just three weeks. Its Youcaring.com fundraiser, it closed yesterday. And it's going to go down as the largest and fastest growing charitable crowd-funding campaign in the industry's history. And you know what guys, Watt says he's speaking with plenty of experts on how best to use all of that donated money, because he's got $37 million and he said, you know, he wants to do it right and get that money in as many people's hands that were affected by Hurricane Harvey as he can.

PAUL: And I'm sure that's going to be watched closely.

BLACKWELL: Yes and he can do a lot of good - -

PAUL: -- and he will, certainly - -

BLACKWELL: -- Yes - -

PAUL: -- thank you Andy.

SCHOLES: All right, have a good one guys.

PAUL: You too

BLACKWELL: And the news breaking this morning, an 18-year-old man is in police custody in connection with the London underground bombing attack. A U.K. police are calling it a significant arrest but they are not saying anything more than that.

PAUL: British leaders are going to have a security meeting later today, the second in fact, since yesterday, which would include police and intelligence chiefs, but this morning we know the subway station is open again. The U.K. terror threat is still at critical, which is the highest level, meaning another attack may be imminent and there is an increased security presence expected around the city.

BLACKWELL: At least 30 people were injured. That number rising this morning after a homemade bomb went off in a train -- on a train rather. ISIS is claiming responsibility, but police are downplaying that right now. They say there's no evidence of their involvement so far.

PAUL: CNN's Nina dos Santos is live from London, right outside the underground station where the blast took place. Nina, what are you learning first of all about this significant arrest that just happened in the last hour? [07:00]

NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN REPORTER: Well, we're not being told the identity of this individual. We are being told that this individual is 18 years old, he is a male.