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City of Lights Mourns for the Massacre Victims; Trump to Visit Puerto Rico Amid Criticism; Violence in Catalonia Continues; Boris Johnson Going Different Ways with Theresa May's Brexit. Aired 3-4a ET

Aired October 3, 2017 - 03:00   ET


[03:00:00] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: The massacre in Las Vegas shock and mourning after a gunman sprays bullets into a crowd of thousands. Now the search for answers to so many questions.

Plus, the U.S. heads to Puerto Rico amid criticism of his administration's handling of hurricane relief efforts.

Hello and welcome to our viewers joining us from all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church, and this is CNN Newsroom.

The death toll is now up to 59 in the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history. Five hundred twenty seven are wounded, after a gunman rained bullets from his hotel window onto a crowd of country music fans.

Inside had his 32nd floor suite at the Mandalay Bay hotel, he had an arsenal. Twenty three guns including rifles and a handgun. Sixty-four- year-old Stephen Paddock shot and killed himself as police moved in.

On Monday, they searched his house 130 kilometers northeast of Las Vegas.


JOSEPH LOMBARDO, SHERIFF, CLARK COUNTY, NEVADA: And an excess of 18 additional firearms, some explosives and several thousand rounds of ammo along with some electronic devices that we are evaluating at this point.


CHURCH: So far no clear motive for the massacre. Paddock's brother described him as well off and he said that he is mystified as to how this could happen.


ERIC PADDOCK, STEPHEN PADDOCK'S BROTHER: We're lost. I don't understand. It makes -- there's no anything. Not an avid gun guy at all, the fact that he had those kinds of weapons is just -- where the hell did he get automatic weapons? He is not -- he has no military background or anything like that. I mean, when you find out about it, like I said, he is just a, he's a guy who live in the house in Mesquite and drove down and gambled in Las Vegas.


CHURCH: And still, his motive unclear. Alexander Marquardt has more now on how the horrific event unfolded.

ALEXANDER MARQUARDT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was during the final act of the three-day Route 91 Harvest Festival when shots rang out, 10.08 p.m. local time.

Dozens of rounds from an automatic weapon slicing through the air as country star Jason Aldean performed.


MARQUARDT: The crowd of 22,000 erupting in panic and screams as they tried to find cover from the hail of bullets.

ANDREW JONES, EYEWITNESS: It sounded like fireworks. Almost fake in the beginning and once everyone hit the floor, just stayed down and get out as fast as we can.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not only was the sound, but it was the shells that were actually coming down, bullets coming down on the deck of the stage. And we could actually see them bouncing off the deck of the stage.

MARQUARDT: The stage and crowd were right on the Las Vegas strip, several hundred yards from the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino. It was from there that a gunman in the room on the 32nd floor shattered the windows with a hammer like device and opened fire. The whole concert venue visible from his elevated perch.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's like shooting fish in a barrel from where he was.

MARQUARDT: There was mass confusion over where the bullets were coming from. Pandemonium as concertgoers were struck and fell.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The fire would last a good five or seven seconds, it stopped then it would last another 10 seconds. Then it stopped for 30 seconds, then it's like back up again that are 10, 15 seconds. It was sporadic.

[03:05:00] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Struck where?

MARQUARDT: Law enforcement responded to the scene and frantically trying to locate the attacker.

This video from NBC News' Joe Fryer who is a guest at Mandalay Bay, showing the police teams going door to door in the hotel.

RANDY SUTTON, RETIRED OFFICER, LAS VEGAS METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT: The way the shooter was identified was not from the muzzle flashes but the smoke detector in the room went off from the amount of smoke that came from firing that fully automatic weapon. MARQUARDT: You can hear the moment in the communication between the

SWAT teams and the dispatcher.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Be advised it is automatic fire, fully automatic fire from an elevated position. Take cover.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is correct. It is fully automatic fire. I'm below it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Copy. All units on the 32nd floor, SWAT has explosive breach. Everyone in the hallway needs to move back. All units move back.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Breach, breach, breach.

MARQUARDT: By 11.28 p.m. local time, over an hour since the first shots were fired, SWAT teams burst into the 32nd floor hotel room, where they found the gunman dead from suicide.

The Las Vegas sheriff says the gunman had carried the weapons into the hotel himself where he had checked in three days prior.

LOMBARDO: We had no knowledge of this individual. I don't know how it could have been prevented.

MARQUARDT: Alex Marquardt, CNN, Las Vegas.

CHURCH: And these are just a few of the 59 people who lost their lives in Las Vegas. Twenty-year-old Angela Gomez graduated from Riverside Poly High School in California in 2015. She was a cheer leader, actress, and singer. And the school district says she always had a smile on her face.

Sandra Casey was a special education teacher in Manhattan Beach, California. She had taught middle school students there for the past nine years. And Las Vegas resident, Nessa Tongs (Ph) leaves behind three children. Her employer had started a Go Fund Me page for her family. They've already raised more than $85,000.

And in tragedies like this, we often see a familiar theme, strangers helping strangers with selfless acts of bravery and heroism and this is -- this one was no different.

Our Martin Savidge reports.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Sonny Melton died a hero. When shots rang out Melton grabbed his wife, Heather, and then began to usher her to safety when he was shot in the back. "He saved my life," said his wife. Adding, "I want everyone to know what a kindhearted loving man he was."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There was short increments where there was breaks in between the shots.

SAVIDGE: Vanessa, an off-duty nurse, initially ran for cover but then her training kicked in and she ran into danger. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I ran back because I'm a nurse and I just felt

that I had to. So I went to three different scenes and by the time I got to the third one, there were just dead bodies.

SAVIDGE: Beyond the bloodshed she also found that heroes were all around her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There was so many people, just normal citizens, doctors, cops, paramedics, like nurses, just off-duty, everyone was just communicating and working together. It was completely horrible but it was absolutely amazing to see all the people come together.

SAVIDGE: Mike Frank was another one of those who would come together. His friend was shot three times in the chest.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Most people started scattering and they climbed the fence but I had to stay with my buddy. So we got him over the fence once the fire stopped, and slid him under the stage so we're safe. My first thoughts were for my buddy. You know, I mean, I wanted to make sure he was taken care of.

But, you know, we pretty much yelling at everybody to stay down, you know. That was -- that was what we needed to do.

SAVIDGE: And some heroes we may never know. Amy McCaslin and Krystal Goddard were shielded from bullets from man they had never met. He was shot as he held them bleeding under McCaslin shirt. As the carnage continued the three kept repeating, "Everything is going to be OK," over and over.

The women still don't know if the man survived. An unknown hero of an unspeakable tragedy.

Martin Savidge, CNN, Las Vegas.

CHURCH: So let's bring in CNN's Jean Casarez now who is live in Las Vegas. And Jean, you and I spoke in the midst of this breaking news more than 24 hours ago now when chaos and confusion reigned, we now know so much more, but one thing we don't know is the gunman's motive. What are the police doing to try to answer that elusive question?

[03:09:56] JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, I'm sure it's priority with them. And today is a new day, so we'll need to see exactly if there's anything else that they can say. There's many ways that they can look at this forensically they are going through I'm sure, the inventories of the search warrants that they got from going through his hotel room, his home, his properties in Nevada.

But let's look at the facts here. Because you can have mass shootings that are planned to a point but the degree of preparation in this is really quite extraordinary because, first of all the hotel room. We learned that he checked in to the room at Mandalay Bay Thursday, September 28th. Four days before anything happened.

So, that time right there, why did he need all the time? It was a corner suite, a very expensive room. A corner suite, and we learned that he had hammer-like device that actually knocked out those windows before he began shooting. So he had to take that hammer device into the room also part of the preplanning.

Twenty three weapons were found in that room. Some with scopes. We learned that he shot from various weapons during the minutes when the shots rang out. So there was the planning to have everything. And law enforcement believes he took the weapons himself into the hotel.

And in Las Vegas it's a huge hotel. You have a casino, you walk a lot, you finally find the elevators, you go up to your room. There aren't a lot of back entrances to just sort of sneak things in. And then, his home in Mesquite, a senior retirement community, well-to-do area. A three-bedroom home.

We learned that there were 18 additional weapons there. There were explosives, there were thousands of rounds of ammunition, and electrical devices that they are still going through. And then you have his car. His car where fertilizer was found, ammonium nitrate was found. Hence, his homes in Reno, we don't know yet what was found there.

SWAT teams were going through them yesterday. But you see someone and somebody had to know something. His girlfriend, we understand is currently in Tokyo. She left the country. Why did she leave the country? Investigators are really going to focus in on her but if she is out of the country, can they even talk with her? Will she even come back to the United States? What does she know that could be concerning.

His brother said he knew nothing about it. But he didn't really talk with his brother. He hadn't spoken with his brother in a while, texted him after Irma in Florida.

So, many unanswered questions. But, Rosemary, they want to want to classify this, they want to classify this as domestic terrorism. Any other aspects that they don't know yet, and so it's going to be priority.

CHURCH: Yes. As you say, so many unanswered questions here. People want some answers.

Jean Casarez, joining us there live from Las Vegas where it is nearly 12.15 in the morning. Many thanks to you.

Well, more on the horrific mass shooting in Las Vegas in just a moment, including how U.S. President Donald Trump is responding to the tragedy. Donald Trump heads to Puerto Rico, almost two weeks after hurricane Maria battered the island. The message one mayor has for the U.S. president. We'll tell you what it is when we come back.


CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. I want to update you on our breaking news out of Las Vegas. At least 59 people are dead and more than 500 injured after Sunday night's mass shooting. A gunman opened fire on an outdoor concert from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel. President Donald Trump plans to visit Las Vegas on Wednesday. On Monday, he held a moment of silence for the victims of the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Hundreds of our fellow citizens are now mourning the sudden loss of a loved one. A parent, a child, a brother, or a sister. We cannot fathom their pain, we cannot imagine their loss. To the families of the victims, we are praying for you, and we are here for you.


CHURCH: The massacre over headed the city's hospitals which are still caring for many patients in critical condition.

CNN's Scott McLean is working that part of the story for us from University Medical Center in Las Vegas. Scott, good to see you. What more are you learning about the wounded still in the hospital, particularly those people in critical condition, and also those people still looking for their love ones?

SCOTT MCLEAN, NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Yes, so, Rosemary, as you can imagine there was a lot of people showing up the hospital when this all happened. The closest hospital to the Las Vegas strip as you can imagine took the most amount of victims. T

About 214 people. The University Medical Center behind me, it took the most critically injured people, 104 people. What was amazing is how quickly they were able to get people into surgeries and how many surgeons they had available.

In fact, at one point, they had eight surgeries going simultaneously, more surgeons available to do surgeries than patients that actually needed it. The good news is that there have been 40 people that been released from hospital. But four people have died at this facility and there are still 12 people in critical condition.

You mentioned there are also people looking to be reunited with loved ones. I just ran in to a woman, her name is -- her name is Shona Lyon, she is a family friend of a man named Derek Taylor, a 55 -- a 56-year- old man who is a father, he is a grandfather, he came to this country music festival over the weekend from California, he missed his flight home, and he also didn't check out of his hotel room. Listen.


SHONA LYON, DEREK TAYLOR'S FRIEND: He missed his flight home, which was today. He was staying at the Paris Hotel here in Las Vegas. And he never checked out of his hotel either. He was here with his friend Denise, and nobody has heard from Denise or Derek.


MCLEAN: So, today, Derek Taylor's family has been spending the day from California, calling the hotline that officials had set up to get people reunited with loved ones. They've also called all the hospitals that they can find in the Las Vegas area asking if he is there. So far, they have had no luck.

So, tomorrow, one of his sons will be in Las Vegas to try to find his father. Obviously, there are still holding out hope that they'll find him alive. Rosemary?

CHURCH: Heartbreaking efforts there to find loved ones. Scott McLean, thank you so much, joining us live from Las Vegas where it is nearly 12.20 in the morning.,

Well, before President Trump heads to Las Vegas, he will visit Puerto Rico Tuesday. Nearly two weeks after hurricane Maria's landfall. He is facing criticisms for the government's relief efforts. The president says they are going well but some on the island they disagree.

CNN's Anderson Cooper reports.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Aguadilla's town square normally busy on a Saturday is nearly empty. The clock marks the moment the electricity cut off. On a nearby side street a 79-year-old man helps to cut away a downed tree. So many here are trying to pitch in. Aguadilla's mayor hands out bottles of water. Five per person.


[03:19:59] COOPER: Where did these supplies come from?

CARLOS MENDEZ MARTINEZ, MAYOR OF AGUADILLA, PUERTO RICO: Well, first of all, the supply they come from the Red Cross. We haven't gotten hardly any supply from FEMA.

COOPER: You haven't?

MARTINEZ: Well, just one or two times, but just not enough for everybody. I have 60,000 people in this town. I have one truck full of water for 60,00 people. One truck full of water for 60,000 people.

COOPER: Not enough.

MARTINEZ: Not enough.

COOPER: The lines grows fast people are patient but there are not enough bottles to go around. I read to mayor President Trump's tweet from this weekend.

President Trump said, "Such poor leadership ability by the mayor of San Juan and others in Puerto Rico who are not able to get their workers to help, they want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort. Ten thousand federal workers now on island doing a fantastic job."

MARTINEZ: Let me tell you, Donald Trump, you listen to me. Ten thousand federal workers that aren't here in Aguadilla city. President Trump, I was a state chairman for the Republican Party in Puerto Rico for 12 years. For 12 years, my last year was last year. I'm still a republican. I'm still a devoted republican. But those federal workers 10,000 I haven't seen one in this town.

If you get to Puerto Rico Tuesday, come and see me, and you and I are going to go around to see if we see one federal worker out of those 10,000.

COOPER: Blocks away. Another line. New York City firefighters are handing out MREs. A pre-cooked meals in a pouch, ready-to-eat.

What's so interesting about what's happening here is that this is a New York City Fire Department team that is part of a group called DART that the New York City Fire Department set up. It's a disaster assistance team. They are volunteers, they came down here, they want to be here. They've been here for days they've just kind of taken it upon themselves to sort of requisition these MREs. I won't go into details on how they did it.

They got this truck from the American Red Cross and then they just found this town decided this was the place and they just started distributing food. But there's a lot of frustration among first responders that I've spoken to who say, look, they've been sitting around, in some cases wanting to get out but there's a lack of organization. It's the disorganization that is frustrating them.

DART is a combined effort of the Fire Department of New York and the American Red Cross.

So you've been basically waiting for a week to get a truck to be able to help.

DANIEL GONZALEZ, FIREFIGHTER, NEW YORK CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT: They had us doing recon and figuring out the need in the local areas, which I understand that is important. But the reality is that the whole alignment needs the same exact thing.

COOPER: Firefighter Daniel Gonzalez said this is the first day they've been able to hand out food.

You could have gone out day one if you had a truck and handed out stuff.

GONZALEZ: Easily and now that's the next problem is finding trucks. From what I understand, I haven't been watching the news, but from what I understand there's a shortage of drivers. I mean, we just need the box and we're going to take care of it ourselves. So it's like we're trying to it'd be nice to break all the red tape, you know, it's very bureaucratic or if that's even the right word.

COOPER: What is it like for you to see all this?

HECTOR RIVERA, FIREFIGHTER, NEW YORK CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT: It's heartbreaking. These are our people, we are here to help. You know they suffered a big loss and we are trying to do a little bit that we can, you know, one day at a time.

COOPER: Some firefighters would like to see the U.S. military here in force in Aguadilla.

You were saying really what is needed is the army to come in just for that kind of mass organization?

CHRISTOPHER GODOY, FIREFIGHTER, NEW YORK CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT: Yes. Yes. It's a -- there needs to be some sort of organization. Some sort of communication effort between towns. It just -- it's complete mess.

COOPER: The lines keep growing, more people need help. Eventually more aid will come. The question right now is how long will it take?

Anderson Cooper, CNN, San Juan.


CHURCH: So, let's talk more about Mr. Trump's visit to Puerto Rico, Julian Zelizer joins me now. He is a CNN political analyst and he's also an historian and professor at Princeton University. Thank you so much for talking with us.


CHURCH: Well, nearly two weeks after hurricane Maria hit Aguadilla and other parts of Puerto Rico are experiencing this dire humanitarian crisis. How is it possible that a U.S. territory finds itself in this position with the mayor of Aguadilla calling out the president, telling him to come help him find federal workers when he visits Tuesday?

ZELIZER: It was rather stunning that somehow the president was able to turn this into a confrontation with the leaders of the area that are working desperately to rebuild their communities and trying to work with federal authorities to establish some kind of order.

And we are a far way away. I think this rests on President Trump's tweets. And he opened up a battle with the leaders of Puerto Rico over the past weekend that has caused severe tension.

CHURCH: And I wanted to ask what do you made of Mr. Trump's tweet to the mayor of San Juan, particularly when he said, the leaders of Puerto Rico want everything to be done for them.

[03:25:03] Is that fair given what we have seen happening on the ground there?

ZELIZER: No, I think that was read very poorly by many people to not indicate presidential leadership at all. First he was trying to get back at criticism that he's heard about the relief efforts and at the same time some commentators have pointed out he sees playing on stereotype and doing what we've seen many times with those Trump tweets where he brings out divisions and social tensions through comments like that.

There was no need for it. It's not true. And now that becomes a front and center issue in the relief effort rather than the relief itself. CHURCH: And you wrote over the weekend in your op-ed, you said that that Mr. Trump's tweets are presidential wrecking ball. What exactly did you mean by that?

ZELIZER: He has used these tweets consistently from last week and all the way back to the start of his presidency to play on all sorts of social divisions here in the United States, whether it was after Charlottesville and the way he talked about what happen there, whether it was with the NFL and the protest for racial justice, or whether it's a comment like that about Puerto Ricans expecting too much from government.

He's playing to stereotypes, he's playing to social hatred and caricatures and he just does it again and again. And he uses it to build support with his base but at the same time the expense is it worsens divisions here in the country.

CHURCH: Did you ever think he might stop using Twitter to reach his base or do you believe this is the way he intends to function throughout his presidency that this is the new way perhaps a future presidencies will be run.

ZELIZER: He won't stop doing this. This is his means of communication. Franklin Roosevelt had radio, John F. Kennedy had television, and he has Twitter and that is not going to change. He sees this is a very potent tool and it is presidential rhetoric whether it's through tweet or whether it's through verbal words matter a lot.

And I do think other presidents will continue to use whatever the medium is of the time but social media is now part of presidential communication and this is something that he has demonstrated can be a very useful mechanism for a president to do all sorts of things.

CHURCH: Do you think it also could perhaps be his downfall going forward?

ZELIZER: Well, we'll see the same way that he uses this to build support with his base. He at the same time undermines the support with the rest of the country and a lot of the negative polling that you see about him whether it's trusting him as a leader believing what he has to say or his overall tenor about dealing with the problems that arise all stem from what he says on Twitter.

So, it's a balancing act how much does he gain from strengthening his base through Twitter versus how many people does he alienate through that same mechanism.

CHURCH: Julian Zelizer, thank you as always for your perspective on this matter. I appreciate it.

ZELIZER: Thanks for having me.

CHURCH: And we will get back to the breaking news out of Las Vegas just ahead, including a look at the arsenal the government had in his hotel room and at his home. You're watching CNN Newsroom.

Plus, protests across Catalonia as fame faces a political crisis over the contested independents vote. Now Catalonian leaders are asking the European Union to intervene.


CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. Police in the U.S. state of Nevada are searching for motive in the massacre on the Las Vegas strip.

Stephen Paddock killed at least 59 people when he opened fire from his hotel room window on a crowd of country music fans at an outdoor concert. The 64-year-old former accountant shot and killed himself as police moved in.

The crowd went scrambling in all directions when the shooting began, 527 people were wounded either by gunfire or in the stampede to get away. Well, police found 23 guns in Paddock's hotel room including handgun and several rifles fitted with scopes. And at his home northeast of Las Vegas, 19 more guns, explosives and thousands of rounds of ammunition.


CHRIS SWECKER, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR: It is highly likely, in fact, almost a certainty that it was a fully automatic weapon. I think there was one media outlet that broke it down in a time sequencing and deducted there were 10, 10 rounds per second. That 600 rounds a minute they fired for at least 10 minutes it sounds like that could be as many as 6,000 rounds fired, there was 600 or so casualties, I mean, that's a pretty good hit ratio shall we say because of the crowd obviously.

He's obviously familiar with guns knows how to get his hands on long weapons, the type of weapons that would be accurate or at least to the outside accuracy range for an AR or an AK is about 500 yards. Knows how to set up firing positions probably move some furniture around, set up two separate firing positions that we know of, probably as it was pointed out was moving from weapon to weapon as it overheated or ran out ammunition and came fully prepared.

Probably studied the concert for a day or two as I understand it was a three-day concert so he probably spend some time up there studying the patterns, the crowd patterns and that sort of thing. I mean, it was a surprisingly sound tactical plan if this were a military operation which it wasn't.

I mean, and you count the casualties it approaches the casualty count for Fallujah too, I mean, even in Iraq they didn't see that kind of casualties in one day.


CHURCH: Just shocking. And even though Paddock was heavily armed his motive remains a mystery. Kyung Lah reports.

KYUNG LAH, CNN SENIOR U.S. CORRESPONDENT: When the SWAT team broke down the door room of a room on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay Casino, gunman Stephen Paddock was already dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Leaving investigators to piece together why a 64-year-old retired accountant would gun down a crowd attending the Route 91 Harvest music Festival.


LOMBARDO: We've checked all the databases and local databases and state databases and we had no knowledge of this individual.


LAH: Paddock check into the Mandalay Bay on September 28 but it wasn't until Sunday night that he broke to the windows of his hotel room to begin his murderous rampage. Police would find 23 guns in the hotel room.


LOMBARDO: This is an individual was described as lone wolf. I don't know how it could have been prevented. We didn't have any prior knowledge to this individual.


LAH: The gunman's brother, Eric Paddock says he also had no warning. He lives in Orlando, Florida and says the last time they spoke was after hurricane Irma.


PADDOCK: He was my brother.


PADDOCK: It's like an asteroid fell out of the sky. The start time I talked to him was he texted me to ask how my mom was after we didn't have power for five days in the neighborhood.


LAH: He says his brother was rich playing $100 hands of video poker. Paddock was divorced with no kids.


[03:35:00] PADDOCK: Steve had nothing to do with any political organization, religious organization. No white supremacist, nothing as far as I know. Yes, he had a couple of guns.

I mean, it's legal to own a couple of guns in the United States. He did not own machine guns that I knew of in any way, shape, or form. (END VIDEO CLIP)

LAH: The only unusual part of Paddock's family says his brother his father, a convicted bank robber, Benjamin Hoskins Paddock was on the FBI most wanted list from 1969 to 1977.


PADDOCK: He's dead. Yes, he died in handful years ago. I was born on the run and that's the last time he was ever associated with by our family.


LAH: Paddock decided to retire at Mesquite, Nevada, a community of some 18,000 people about 80 miles from Las Vegas. Police they are searching the home he shared with his girlfriend finding 19 more guns, thousands of rounds of ammunition and ammonium nitrate and explosive.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And all that ammunition and fire power was being brought in right in front of our house and down the street and then to know that what he planned, and then he was able to accomplish last night is very surreal, hard to get there arms wrapped around it and to understand.


LAH: So, a picture is becoming more clear that this was something that was long planned that he had accumulated all of this weaponry. The hard part is knowing exactly why.

Kyung Lah, CNN, Mesquite, Nevada.

CHURCH: And there have been so many terrifying images and sounds that have emerged from the scene of that shooting. Brendon O'Neal is a photographer was on stage when the shooting started. We want to show you some of the video he took, when the shooting began he ran to a parking lot and hid behind a police car.

Horrifying moments there. And Brendon O'Neal spoke with CNN's John Berman just a short time ago.


BRENDON O'NEAL, PHOTOGRAPHER: At this point we had no idea who is even the shooter because we thought the system was like messed up.


O'NEAL: And then -- and then in the soundstage is completely went silent, someone is like that he's got a gun and you just hear screams and you just hear relentless, just like a heavy machine gunner. This was like heavy -- like military weapons that were going off ricochets hearing like bouncing everywhere. It was just complete chaos. So, one of the security guards is like, exit is back out here, exit is back out here, so my buddy Dan and I run down the stairs, we went along the side of the stage and then looking just a sea of people just like climbing the fence barricades like falling, people like laid out, like it was so intense and when we came to this entrance to go, to go out I can hear bullets like right next to me, like I like high-pitched sound like I could hear like hitting the ground.

My buddy and I jump over to this police vehicle. There's a few people that were there, they looked like they were possibly shot, they were bleeding. We were hanging out of the police vehicle for a little bit and then we made a dashboard and within 10 feet we see this girl and she's laying down and her friend's right next to her.

And she's like freaking out. She's like -- she's like, she's shot in the head, she's shot in the head. And my buddy comes over to help out and he goes, my God, he's shot in the head. Then had a couple people came to help, lift her up, I had my buddy in them got her into the police vehicle. And we did that another just barrage of like bullets just came down and we just bolted from the parking lot.


CHURCH: So many terrifying moments like that. Photographer Brendon O'Neal speaking with our John Berman.

And we will take a very short break right here and bring you some other global news when we come back including the political standoff between Madrid and Catalonia which seems to be getting worse.

[03:39:58] Why the crackdown by the Spanish government on separatist could back fire.

Plus, British conservatives get together for their annual conference while someone, a party leaders are together on one of the biggest issues facing that country, the Brexit.


CHURCH: Tom Petty has died at the age of 66 in a hospital near his home in California after going into cardiac arrest Monday morning. He lend his unmistakable voice to countless child helpers like the one you just heard there, "Free Fallin." It's hard to overstate his stature in rock music where he was an influential giant for 40 years.

He was inducted into the rock 'n roll hall of fame 15 years ago but not even that on a really conveys what he meant to so many people here in the United States. His music is everywhere and will continue to be so.

Well, the Catalonian president is calling on the European Union to help resolve Spain's political crisis between Madrid and Barcelona. A violent government crackdown against Sunday's independence referendum left hundreds of would-be voters wounded.

The United Nations is calling for an investigation after national police hit voters with batons, dragged people away from polling stations and fired rubber bullets at them. Catalonian officials say the majority of those who voted supported breaking away from Spain.



CARLES PUIGDEMONT, PRESIDENT OF CATALONIA (through translator): We demand the withdrawal of all police forces deploying Catalonia in order to end these repressive operations which have caused serious acts of violence in a country that has protested for years with millions of people without any incidents.

And therefore, we will not need the deployment of riot police in a way the Spanish government did.


CHURCH: And it's worth noting Catalonia is an economic powerhouse for Spain. And some trade unions there are hoping to pressure Madrid by calling for a general strike on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, on the streets of Barcelona the tensions are clear.

CNN's Isa Soares has more.

ISA SOARES, INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: For these Catalan separatist they are the aggressive. The national police who disrupted and crackdown their dream of independence. They chant 'out with a Spanish police' that they don't march (Ph).

[03:44:55] The differences between Catalonia and the central government couldn't really be clear. Here you have a scene playing out of the pro-referendum pro-independent movement who are protesting. If you look far back the national police they were the ones that were brought in to stop this referendum in the first place, and they are the ones that been accused of almost 900 injury.

Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy says they were enforcing the law to prevent a referendum that he says is illegal and unconstitutional but their presence here could fuel tensions further and embolden the separatist's course.

On the streets of Barcelona the heavy handedness convinced some to vote for independence. "I was going to no rather than yes but given the repression we saw from the police and the innocent people with hands raised, I voted yes."

While some scream from the top of their voice to make their point some don't speak at all. While others choose symbolism singing the Catalan anthem.

Ninety percent of those who voted, voted for independence, but they account for less than half of Catalonia. Still for them there is now no concession Madrid can make to change their minds. "I think the Catalan people have matured enough to be independent," he says, and while they wait they celebrate what may come. But now some hopeful this won't be a bit of their goals.

You have to negotiate it, you have to understand this tells me this man, this is like a marriage when one person decides it wants a divorce you have to be in agreement and if the other side wants you to remain in the relationship they need to convince you. Here that hasn't happened.

The fear is this dialogue may never happen, at least to neither side is prepared to compromise.

Isa Soares, CNN, Barcelona.

CHURCH: British Prime Minister Therese May is contending with several challenges at her party's annual conference. After bearing responsibility for weakening the conservative majority in parliament she's dealing with murmurs about her Foreign Minister, Boris Johnson.

Some think he's trying to upstage her and put himself for what is the champion of a true bold Brexit.

CNN's Bianca Nobilo joins me now from Manchester, England. So, Bianca, is the leadership pitch from Boris Johnson?

BIANCA NOBILO, CNN ANCHOR: It certainly looked like it about a week ago when Boris Johnson wrote an open letter expressing what he wants the Brexit to look like going far beyond Theresa May's position. But as I say a week is a long time in politics and now this morning Boris Johnson seems to be peddling back a little bit on that rhetoric.

But I've been talking to people that know Boris Johnson very well here at conference and they're telling me that it's less about vying for leadership as it is about trying to preserve his legacy as one of those who championed Brexit.

He's seen Brexit is not going the way that he intended when he was championing it last year so he is trying to intervene to make sure that his vision comes to fruition and his political legacy is intact. But there are polls that have been conducted among conservatives like everybody here today in Manchester that do put Boris Johnson as the favorite candidate to replace Theresa May in the event of a leadership battle.

So, if I was the prime minister I would still be keeping one eye open.

CHURCH: Yes, it's interesting. So what impact does this all having on the conservative party and of course its efforts to move forward with Brexit?

NOBILO: You can certainly feel here at conference that there is a real tension that the line I keep hearing from cabinet and from MP's is that we're all united behind the prime minister and no one wants to talk about leadership. But even though there is the words that they're saying, the sense that

I'm getting is that misspeak, one mistake has the potential to derail that unity completely, and that there's quite a sense of nervousness here at conference today.

So, we'll have to keep watching. But Brexit is an issue that has divided the conservative party for over 40 years and it's not going to be getting away anytime soon. So the stakes are high here in Manchester today, Rosemary.

CHURCH: Certainly. Our CNN's Bianca Nobilo joining us there from Manchester in England, where it is 8.50 in the morning. Many thanks to you for that live report.

Coming up next, it is a persistent debate in the United States but it never seems to gain political traction. The renewed attention on gun control after the Las Vegas massacre. We'll take a look at that.


CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. Well, the massacre in Las Vegas will likely lead to a renewed push for some sort of gun-control legislation in the U.S. Congress. Still many Republicans insist the aftermath of a mass shooting is not the time to debate that issue.

Sunlen Serfaty has more now from Capitol Hill.

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Expect the politics of the gun debate to be revived once again up here on Capitol Hill in the wake of that mass shootings in Las Vegas. Democrats are already seizing on the tragedy renewing their calls for tougher gun control measures and specifically much of the criticism is surrounding right here on Capitol Hill this bill that is making its way through the House which calls for loosening gun restrictions and also making it easier to purchase silencers for guns.

Now this is something that former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton picked up on in her response to the shootings out quote, "The crowd fled at the sound of gunshots. Imagine the death if the shooter had a silencer which the NRA wants to make easier to get."

And a congressional hearing on that bill had been scheduled for this past June but it was abruptly canceled because that was the same day that there was another shooting at that congressional baseball practice in the suburb of Washington, D.C. that left Representative Steve Scalise severely injured.

Now as of now there are no immediate plans to bring the bill to a House for a vote. But that said, the White House was of course asked about this and the press secretary said there's a time and a place to debate the politics over guns but that now is not that time.

Sunlen Serfaty, CNN, on Capitol Hill.

CHURCH: And after Sunday's shooting some democratic lawmakers vented their frustration over the inaction in Congress. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND, D-N.Y.: It's another disturbing and painful example of how Congress is too weak and too cowardly to stand up to the gun industry.

SEN. ED MARKEY, D-MA.: You must act so that we do not become numb to this preventable carnage. This epidemic of gun violence in our country is not preordained, it is preventable. We could begin by banning these military style assault weapons like the AR-15 which all the guns of choice for those who seek to inflict mass casualties on civilians.

SEN. CHRIS MURPHY, D-CT: This silence has become an intentional endorsement, it's become a kind of sick complicity and I hope that in the coming days we can come together, republicans and democrats, to start talking about at the very least some baby steps to show the people of Las Vegas, to show the people of Orlando, to show my constituents, my friends in Sandy Hook that silence is no longer an option.


CHURCH: And just by way of background the FBI defines a mass shooting as an attack by a gunman in a public place with three or more victims are killed. Since 1982 there have been at least 90 mass shootings in the U.S. which have claimed the lives of 701 people and wounded nearly 700.

The political magazine Mother Jones compiled these figures which don't include the latest attack in Las Vegas. Now the number does include a shooting in Arizona that killed six people and wounded 113. Among them then-Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, she spent months learning how to walk and talk again.

Giffords and her husband, Mark Kelly, founded a non-profit focused on gun violence prevention. And Kelly spoke to CNN earlier.


MARK KELLY, GABBY GIFFORDS' HUSBAND: You know, those folks out there that would want us to believe that this is normal and people should understand that this is not normal and it's not inevitable that we live and continue to live in a country with 25 times the death rate from gun violence than any other country like us.

[03:54:54] We can make changes to prevent these things from happening.

DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Yes. So if you read some of the comments today through social media and some people speaking out saying -- and I'm just getting your reaction -- this is not the time to talk about gun control or gun laws. What do you say to that?

KELLY: I used to say that, too. I used to it frequently. But you know, when you're in a situation that Gabby and I are in where we're trying to get Congress and people we elect to office to, you know, move forward with some positive change, you know, you get tired of saying that. And you know, you really do. It wears you out.

And when we have 50 plus, 59 Americans killed, over 500 others shot in a single event, I mean, if not now, when? You know, thoughts and prayers are important. I was glad to hear that from the president.

But what I would really like to hear from the president and Congress is what is their plan to make sure that things don't happen, you know, like this over and over and over again.


CHURCH: And late-night comedians are taking a break from telling jokes to urge action from lawmakers. Take a look.


JIMMY KIMMEL, TV HOST: Well, hello, everyone. Here we are again in the aftermath of another terrible inexplicable shocking and painful tragedy. This time in Las Vegas. You probably know whether we ever why human being would do something like this to other human beings who were at a concert.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, the people of Las Vegas I called you thoughts and prayers. I can only say that I'm sorry. Sorry that we live in a world where there are people who put a gun before your lives.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you say which you always say now is not the time to talk about it, what you really mean is there is never a time to talk about it. And it would be so much more honest if you would just admit that your plan is to never talk about it and never take any action.

KIMMEL: The Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Speaker of the House Paul Ryan and number of other lawmakers who won't do anything about this because the NRA has (muted) a money clip also sent their thoughts and their prayers today which is good. They should be praying. They should be praying for God to forgive them for letting the gun lobby run this country.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And our President Trump, you said you wanted to be a transformative president who doesn't care about the way things have always been done in Washington, D.C. This is your chance to prove it, and I mean this sincerely. You do not owe the republicans anything.


CHURCH: Some powerful messages right there. I'm Rosemary Church. The news continues with Hannah Vaughan Jones in London.

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