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[03:00:00] ROSEMARY CHURCH, HOST, CNN: The independence question. Catalonia's president faces pressure ahead to an address to his parliament in just a few hours.

Plus, a revive timeline for the massacre. Police in Las Vegas release new information about when the shooter began gunning down concertgoers.

And the war within. How Donald Trump's feud with a key member of his own party could impact the president' agenda.

Hello and welcome to our viewers joining us from all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church, and this is CNN Newsroom.

Catalonia's standoff with Madrid is reaching a tipping point. In just a few hours, leader Carles Puigdemont will address the regional parliament possibly declaring independence. But protests over the weekend are putting pressure on him to hold off. This decision comes after a divisive referendum that found a majority of Catalans who voted favored independence.

Spain's central government says it would suspend Catalonia's autonomous status if it tried to break away.

Meanwhile, the mayor of Barcelona is urging both sides to take a step back.


ADA COLAU, MAYOR OF BARCELONA, SPAIN: Today, we need a gesture of appeasement on both sides, not an escalation that does not no one any favors. Now a time to build bridges and not blow it all up.

It is time to stop the trench warfare, the warring language the words of the vectors and the vanquished. Let us give ourselves time to set up a space for since and unconditional dialogue, a time of mediation.

To President Puigdemont and President Rajoy don't make any decision that could explode the possibly of a space for dialogue and mediation. This is without a doubt the bravest act you can do.

(END VIDEO CLIP) CHURCH: And CNN's Isa Soares joins me now from Barcelona, Spain. Isa, always good to see you. So, how likely is it that Carles Puigdemont will go ahead and declare independence for Catalonia at this regional hours, any signals suggesting what he might do?

ISA SOARES, INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Good morning to you, Rosie. Really the pressure of trying to read the tea leaves to find out which way he will go. As you just heard from Ada Colau, the mayor of Barcelona, there's pressure not just from her but so many other party as well as from those who vote for than two million also of Catalan who endorsed the idea of independence.

But you know, what we heard from Ada Colau is basically saying, telling the Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy to act like a leader and to drop the idea of invoking article 155 which control Catalonia. But at the same time telling Puigdemont that basically a referendum is not an endorsement for independence.

So, principally asking for dialogue. We've also heard one party from the far left, the party here in Catalonia that gives Puigdemont a majority in parliament, basically saying we won, we won fair and square, let's push ahead and let's declare independence with no concession.

And we've also heard from many, and I said more than a dozen or so companies who are putting more pressure on Puigdemont to basically back off and to not declare independence, that many of which, many of those companies, Rosie, have basically said they are moving their headquarters outside of Catalonia putting economic pressure on Puigdemont to really pull back and to not declare anything when he comes to parliament at 6 o'clock today.

CHURCH: Isa, though, if independence is declared then what, how will Spain respond and what would be the likely ramifications on the streets of Spain if this happens?

SOARES: Yes. And this is the critical. You know, yesterday, an interview with CNN, Catalan's Foreign Minister Raul Romeva basically said, look, we will be waiting with it, we've been waiting for response from the central government. We're talking but no one is listening.

And the reason, you know, that perhaps no one is listening, Rosie, is because the Prime Minister, Mariano Rajoy has been very clear from day one. The last 48 hours he's been giving interviews to prince, a lot of Spanish prince where he said, look, we're not going to -- we're not going to recognize any form of independence, it's not going to happen.

And in fact, on the impression on actually article 155, he went as far as saying everything is on the table, we're not ruling anything out. So from that respect, he's diminished. If Puigdemont does declare independence that we know that Rajoy will act. How he will act, of course we do not know.

[03:04:59] But everyone is expecting him, sentiment analysis are expecting him to actually then invoke article 155 and that would mean taking over control of Barcelona. Whether we're talking about more police on the streets, whether we're talking about arresting some of these individuals who would gone around with a referendum that he considers to be illegal in a Constitution. We do not know.

But bear in mind that that would be the last resort for Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy because not only would he actually be making the situation worse here, he will also be driving a much bigger wedge within Catalonia and indeed, with Spain, a country that is already very fractured, Rosie.

CHURCH: Just hours away from finding out what the Catalonian leader does. Our Isa Soares bringing us that live report from Barcelona, Spain, just after 9 in the morning. Many thanks to you.

Well, Catalonia's independence issue is so polarizing. It is pitting family member against family member within a table has becoming a political battlefields.

CNN's Atika Shubert sat down with some divided families in Barcelona.


ATIKA SHUBERT, CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Maria Rosa Mayo is a proud grandmother, proud to be Catalan, but also proud to be Spanish and she has absolutely set against independence.

"I am Catalan," she says, "I can't deny my country but my blood is just boiling."

That puts her in direct opposition to her 16-year-old granddaughter Sofia.

"She has to respect me and I have to respect her," she says. But when the family is gathered together there is no debate, no discussion, she is an 'independentista.' "OK. She just is, I respect that. But in this home, as she has always seen, we are one Spain and Catalonian."

Catalonia's bid for independence and Spain's harsh response has divided families.

Dinner tables have become political battlefields or silent spaces.

DANIEL VECINO, CATALAN VOTER: I don't have any problems discussing things but I feel like they get nervous or anxious when talking about this.

SHUBERT: Daniel Vecino voted for independence. His father Rafael didn't vote. He thinks it should never have come to this crisis point.

"We're talking right now, it's not a problem, right? Daniel asks. His dad, no. "No, I don't like discussions if there is no way for us to agree. It doesn't make sense."

But when we left father and son were talking passionately but politely about their differences reaching out across the dinner table even if their political leaders cannot. Atika Shubert, CNN, Barcelona.


CHURCH: To the United States now, a massive wildfires are engulfing huge areas in California from Orange County in the south to the famous Napa wine country in the north. At least 10 people have died. And authorities are warning that numbers will climb higher as the fires rage on.

The flames force people to flee their homes with very little notice. Health official say more than 100 people have been treated in hospital for fire-related injuries, while two hospitals have evacuated patients.

Tens of thousands of hectares are burning with houses, businesses, and livelihood in the fire line.

Wilson Walker of our affiliate KPIX has this report.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For me, it was just this immediate we smell smoke that starts getting windy, and all of a sudden there is bright orange sky.

WILSON WALKER, REPORTER, KPIX: And it was just of the fires tearing through wine country, a scorching wall of flames marching south along the Napa, Sonoma county line.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get out while you can I guess.

WALKER: And for hours, that was the challenge here trying to find a path away from this fire when fire was burning in every direction.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's fires everywhere. I've been setting three different directions to evacuate horses. I'm -- I have receiving horses. I'm going to do everything I can.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, trying to get out here. We saw it now it's again across the road, it's all bad.

WALKER: Now here's a good example of what drivers have been looking on highway 12 tonight pretty much a plow through either thick smoke or actual flames. This fire has crossed the highways several times in the last couple of hours. It left drivers stranded on either side of the fire and sometimes actually stuck between several pieces of fire moving around the highway.

Sometimes the best you can do is just sort of stand here and let things burn through.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're out right now, it's hard to see and it's super windy and it's not helping at all.

WALKER: One driver collided with an empty Highway Patrol cruiser. He later checked himself into the hospital. But ultimately, this was an escape emergency worker simply trying to get people out of the way of a fire that was never going to slow down.

[03:10:03] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I overheard some guys over there that they got houses and families over there.

WALKER: And daybreak didn't bring much relief. The winds kept driving the devastation through communities like Glen Ellen. Firefighters say the flames jumped over their heads here leveling homes along both sides of the street.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's everywhere right now. This is that.

WALKER: Between Glen Ellen and Santa Rosa flames continued to burn along roadways and through neighborhoods.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's why we got here. We're in the middle of nowhere right now and entirely road. We're being consumed right now.

WALKER: Consumed by a fire that for hours seem to be everywhere and entirely unstoppable.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I grabbed what few things left. I didn't think my house would ever burned down. The whole neighborhood was gone.


CHURCH: Wilson Walker of KPIX in California with that report. And our meteorologist Ivan Cabrera joins us now with more on the fire conditions and really terrifying images there, Ivan, of people looking like they were surrounded. So, when might these fires be contained?

IVAN CABRERA, METEOROLOGIST, CNN: I think we're going to have a better handle on these on extra couple of days as weather conditions shall begin to improve, but we went from nothing to just explosive fire weather conditions.

Take a look at the picture taken from one of our weather satellites up about you don't see much, in fact, nothing there. That was Sunday. This is Monday, that is all smoke from the enormous fires that have been now burning across Napa into Santa Rosa. And in Santa Rosa, my goodness. We lost, have lost entire neighborhoods. They are showing you the the pictures there just incredible scenes coming out of the region.

As far as what we are in the season, look at this. Thirty four million hectares burn so far this year. That sounds like a lot but normally would be at 24 and it is. That makes it the fifth highest and worst fire season so far as far as the consumption here of the hectares. Lot of the dry brush out there that the fires are taking advantage of.

But look at the forecast now heading into tomorrow. This is much better. We've been talking about hurricane force winds, so 120 KPH and about in just the last 24 hours, that's the only way you get from 80 hectares to 10,000 hectares consumed and those neighborhoods wiped out. There to see the numbers they are much better in the next couple of days.

Not only are we going to have lighter winds but we're going to have winds coming in the other direction. But we had where the Diablo winds, the y offshore winds that warm and the relative humidity really tumbles and drops.

But look at this. What you want to see is that flow off the water. Now we're going to get that in the next couple of days. We've had it, but it's just been pinned right along the coast. I think the next couple of days will have that pushing a little further inland, and in fact, a lot further where the fires are. So that rages is going to go up and it's going to help firefighting efforts as well as the winds subsiding.

Temperatures are about the same the next couple of days. But at least two ingredients that we look for the relative humidity and the winds. Those are both going in the right direction for firefighting efforts here that will continue the next few days and hopefully going to get containment higher than what it is, in some areas which is at this point, Rosemary, zero.

CHURCH: That is unbelievable. Certainly we want to see that containment happen sooner rather than later (TECHNICAL PROBLEM).


RICHARD QUEST, HOST, CNN: ... flew with where the ball. No, the ball has come back across the net once again because Mrs. May says the U.K. needs a unique partnership with the E.U. The final score won't be determined until the end of the negotiating period and there may need to be extra time for Britain to adjust.

Put another way back to you, Mrs. May, says the Europeans. Overall, when all said and done that's not going to bring you the way it will happen. Because the E.U. can't literally just bombard the British one after the other, with more and more with requirements and demands.

CHURCH: Richard Quest there talks of his game. All right, we'll take a short break here. The world is waiting to see if North Korea will celebrate a state holiday with another nuclear provocation.

Next, how the U.S. defense chief is preparing in case diplomacy fails. And a former Trump ally now says the president is stirring the US on a path of World War III. The White House is firing back. We'll have the details for you when we come back.


CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. Well, officials in the U.S. and around the world is standing by for a possible nuclear provocation by North Korea. Pyongyang often celebrate state holidays with nuclear or missile test. And today, the North is marking a major anniversary, the founding of its ruling party.

Meanwhile, close military adviser to President Trump are favoring a diplomatic solution to the nuclear standoff but the U.S. defense chief is telling the army to prepare just in case diplomacy does not work.


[03:19:59] JAMES MATTIS, UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: But there is one thing the U.S. Army can do and that is you've got to be ready to ensure that we have military options that our president can employ if needed.

We currently, we currently are in a diplomatically led effort. And how many times did you see in the U.N. Security Council vote unanimously now twice in a row to impose stronger sanctions on North Korea, the international community ahs spoken. But that means the U.S. Army must stand ready.


CHURCH: And amid the tension between the U,S. and North Korea leader Kim Jong-un has just promoted a close political ally. His youngest sister. Now that came during a weekend meeting of the country's ruling party.

Our Will Ripley takes a closer look now at Kim Yo-jong and what her new role will be.

WILL RIPLEY, INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: The stakes have never been higher for North Korean leader Kim Jong-un an escalating conflict with U.S. President Donald Trump, and accelerating nuclear program defined and threatening the world. At this critical time only a handful of elite North Koreans are believed to have the ear of their supreme leader. His younger sister, Kim Yo-jong is one of them.


PAIK HAKSOON, DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER FOR NORTH KOREAN STUDIES, SEJONG INSTITUTE: Kim Jong-un has, you know, brothers and sisters, but Kim Yo-jong is the older sister by the same mother, so you know, this is closest in the blood relationship.


RIPLEY: Since their father's funeral in 2011, Kim Yo-jong has been a regular presence by her brother side with a growing list of official responsibilities.


HAKSOON: She has become an unparalleled, you know, political figure in terms of influencing Kim Jong-un's decision.


RIPLEY: Over the weekend, state media announced a big promotion for Kim Yo-jong, alternate member of the politburo. North Korea's highest decision-making committee. A role once held by Kim's aunt, Kim Kyong- hui who disappeared from public view after the 2013 execution of her husband for treason and corruption. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DUYEON KIM, SENIOR FELLOW, KOREAN PENINSULA FUTURE FORUM: The biggest difference here is that Kim Jong-un's aunt assumed a senior level position within the political bureau where she's in her mid-60s, but Kim Jong-un's other sister is perhaps at most 30. And so it clearly shows she's on the fast track.


RIPLEY: Also on the fast track, analyst say, Foreign Minister Ri Yong-ho, the North Korean diplomat who ridiculed President Trump calling him president evil in a fiery speech to the U.N. even threatening to test a powerful nuclear weapon over the Pacific.


KIM: Kim Jong-un is trying to turn the Workers Party into his party into a Kim Jong-un party by filling senior positions and key positions with his people.


RIPLEY: All of it, experts say, further consolidates Kim's power as he and his inner circle try to navigate North Korea through an intensifying nuclear standoff with no end in sight.

Will Ripley, CNN.

CHURCH: Well, back in the United States, the Trump administration is rolling back a centerpiece of the Obama White House's effort to rein in global warming.

Later Tuesday, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency says he will sign a proposed rule to repeal the clean power plan, which aimed to cut carbon pollution by power plants 32 percent by the year 2030.

It requires states to meet specific carbon emission reduction standards. Under President Obama, the EPA estimated this would prevent as many as 6,000 premature deaths and up to 150,000 asthma attacks in children.

Current EPA administrator Scott Pruitt says the clean power plan overreached. Take a listen.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How is it that some environmentalists are not happy with doing away with these regulations, what would you say those folks?

SCOTT PRUITT, ADMINISTRATOR, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY: Well, it's interesting because when you look at what they accomplished, what do they accomplished with the clean environment. And when they acted unlawfully, they get sued by 24 states and organizations from across the country. And the U.S. Supreme Court say there are rules and nothing happened

that was good from their perspective that has created more uncertainty and more litigation cost for the agency.

Instead of acting consistently with authority to have an statute and working together with states and industry to achieve better outcomes, I mean, we don't recognize this is a country as much as we should, that we've reduced the pollutants that we regulate. The Clean Act though, over 65 percent.

We're pretty 1994 levels with our CO2 levels and we make tremendous progress as a country without a mandate.


CHURCH: Not surprisingly, environmental advocacy groups condemn the move. Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg tweeted this. "The EPA can repeal the Clean Power Plan, but not the laws of economics as one provide coal or stop the U.S. from reaching our Paris goal."

[03:25:01] Well, just a little more than a year ago, Senator Bob Corker was a key ally of Donald Trump, assuring fellow mainstream republicans that they should support Mr. Trump's presidential run. Well, now the two are trading blistering insults on Twitter and in the media.

And as CNN's Jim Acosta reports one casualty of this fine could be the president's legislative agenda.

JIM ACOSTA, SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, CNN: As the president was heading the Trump golf course in Virginia with Senator Lindsey Graham, all eyes are on another top republican whose teeing off escalating his war of words with president.

Senator Bob Corker issued a dire warning telling the New York Times that Mr. Trump is treating his administration like a reality show that could put the U.S. on the path to World War III, adding he would have to concern anyone who cares about our nation.

And Corker is making the case he is hardly alone, adding, "Look, except for a few people, the vast majority of our caucus understands what we're dealing with here."

The interview followed this Corker tweet. "It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning." The White House is not amused.


KELLYANNE CONWAY, WHITE HOUSE SENIOR ADVISER: I find tweets like this to be incredibly irresponsible and insulting that the mainstream and the president's detractors almost a year after this election they still can't accept the election results. It adds to their ability and their cover to speak about the president of the United States, the president of the United States in ways that no president should be talked about. (END VIDEO CLIP)

ACOSTA: But Corker who's retiring was firing back at the president who tweeted, "Senator Bob Corker begged me to endorse him for reelection in Tennessee. I said no. And he dropped out. He also wanted to be Secretary of State. I said no, thanks. hence, I would fully expect Corker to be a negative voice and stand in the way of our great agenda, didn't have the guts to run."

Corker's office said that's not true, adding, "The president call Senator Corker and asked him to reconsider his decision not to seek reelection and reaffirmed that he would've endorsed him as he has said many times."

The ongoing feud flared up last week when Corker praised Rex Tillerson after tensions between the president and secretary of state's build in the public view.


BOB CORKER, (R) UNITED STATES SENATOR: I think secretary Tillerson and Secretary Mattis and Chief of Staff Kelly are those people that help separate our country from chaos. And I support them very much.


ACOSTA: It's not the first time Corker has sounded the alarm after the president's controversial handling of white supremacist violence in Charlottesville.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Very fine people on both sides.


ACOSTA: Corker was far more critical than many of his GOP colleagues.


CORKER: The president is not yet been able to demonstrate the stability, nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful.


ACOSTA: The question is whether the back and forth would damage tax reform and other items in the president's agenda with all the GOP help it can get.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think the president is a little bit frustrated that his own team is taking shots at him and he's fighting back. So I get the president's frustration, but I don't think that's the best strategy.


ACOSTA: Vice President Pence release a statement defending the president with a general reference to critiques but there was no direct reference to Senator Bob Corker who still carries a lot of weight here in Washington.

Jim Acosta, CNN, the White House.

CHURCH: We'll take a short break, but still to come, most Vegas authorities have new details about what happened just before the deadly shooting in modern U.S. history.

Plus, Hillary Clinton criticized over campaign donations her campaign took in from a Hollywood mogul now accused of sexual harassment. We will see how she's reacting.

And infighting in the White House is nothing new. But U.S. President Donald Trump's current and ex-wife are squabbling over the title of First Lady. The reason why, when we come back.


[03:30:00] ROSEMARY CHURCH, HOST, CNN: And a warm welcome back to our viewers joining us from all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church. Let's update you now on the main stories we're following this hour.

Catalonia's political uncertainty is expected to come to ahead Tuesday. As leader Carles Puigdemont decides whether to declare independence of the regional parliament.

In Madrid, Spain's central government says it would suspend Catalonia's autonomous status if it tried to break away.

Massive wildfires are engulfing California's famous wine country as well as other areas in the state. At least 10 people have died and more than 100 are being treated for burns, smoke inhalation and other injuries. One fire chief says the dry weather conditions are so bad firefighters can't keep the flames from advancing.

British Prime Minister Theresa Mays says the U.K. has made its share of concessions in Brexit talks and now the ball is in the E.U.'s court. A new round of negotiations started Monday. Mrs. May told parliament she is making plans in case there is no agreement when Brexit happens in March 2019.

Turkeys says it wants the U.S. to lift its visa suspension. Both countries have visa freezes in place amid a diplomatic route. It began last week with the arrest of a U.S. consulate employee in Turkey who is accused of having links to cleric Fethullah Gulen. The man Turkey's president blames for last year's failed coup. He lives in exile in the United States.

Well, authorities have updated the time line of last week's deadly massacre in Las Vegas. The gunman killed 58 people and wounded more than 500.

CNN's Sara Sidner tells us what police say happened before he fired on the crowd.

SARA SIDNER, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: We are now learning a significant change in the timeline of the Vegas shootings. We now hear from the sheriff that Jesus Campos, the security guard for the Mandalay Bay who initially took fire actually ended up being shot a full six minutes before Stephen Paddock turned that gun on concertgoers.

The question is what exactly triggered him, but we have also learned some information that he says about himself back in 2013.

We are learning more about the man behind the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history. Authorities say he was gambling the night before he began his murderous rampage on innocent concertgoers.

And now court documents reveal how big of a gambler he was. In his own words, Stephen Paddock described himself as "The biggest video poker player in the world" gambling up to $1 million in a single night. Whether it was boasting or not he gave up those details about himself while being questioned by an attorney during a 2013 deposition.

That deposition taken after this slip and fall in the Cosmopolitan Hotel, Las Vegas. That's Paddock and he sued the hotel over it. In the deposition he's asked by an attorney about his gambling habits. How many dollars are we talking, Paddock replied, I averaged 14 hours a day, 365 days a year over 200 million coins through.

Paddock also revealing he didn't drink and gamble. At the stakes I play you want to have all your wits about you, he said, and the stakes he played gave him huge perks according to Vegas insider Anthony Curtis.


ANTHONY CURTIS, PUBLISHER, LAS VEGAS ADVISOR: So he was absolutely in that higher echelon of the high roller, whale, you know, you hear about the whales, no, not at all. He wasn't that high. He didn't play like that but he was high enough to get their attention big time and get the things that he wanted.


[03:35:04] SIDNER: Curtis says for high rollers like Paddock eccentricity is expected. Authorities say Paddock brought up several bags to his room and didn't let anyone into clean for three days straight.


SIDNER: Would someone spending the kind of money that a high roller spends be scrutinized less than your average Joe.

CURTIS: As a rule I would say probably less scrutiny because these people have their idiosyncrasies and they have things that they like to do, they won't bring their past or whatever. And the casino will likely put up a little bit more I guess you would say they've got a longer lease than most.


SIDNER: In this case, Paddock was amassing an arsenal in his room, turning it into a sniper's nest. In an interview with 60 Minutes one of the officers who charged into the room, found another disturbing piece of evidence.


DAVID NEWTON, POLICE OFFICER, LAS VEGAS METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT: I did notice a note on the nightstand near where his shooting platform. I see on it had written the distance, the elevation he was on, the drop of what is bullet is going to be for those for the crowd.

So he had that written down and figured out so he would know where to shoot to head his targets from there.


SIDNER: The sheriff also saying that investigators are going back through and combing through Stephen Paddock's properties as well. There was a behavioral specialist that has been brought on scene. And we know that they are talking to Stephen Paddock's brother who has been brought here to Las Vegas again trying to find any more detail they may have missed to try to answer the question they still don't have the answer to. Why did Stephen Paddock opened fire on so many innocent people?

Sara Sidner, CNN, Las Vegas.

CHURCH: Former FBI profiler Jim Clemente joins me now here in the studio. Thank you so much for being with us.


JIM CLEMENTE, RETIRED FBI PROFILER: Thank you for having me.

CHURCH: Now of course, you know, with your experience here I'd be interested to get your take on this new information we've received. We we now understand that the gunman shot at the security guard in the hotel before he shot into the crowd.


CHURCH: There were six minutes difference there. What does that tell you?

CLEMENTE: I think it tells me that he wasn't quite prepared to start yet and he was surprised by the security guard. He was apparently drilling into the next suite, probably to plant additional cameras because he thought he'd be attacked by SWAT through the next suite. And I think that it took him an additional six minutes after he shut

through the door to make sure nobody else was coming and then start engaging in his shooting because he actually had planned on actually waiting a little later.

CHURCH: Now we know that there is no -- they haven't uncovered a motive at this state. It's possible that they won't ever find a motive, right? But it's highly unusual that were at this stage, you know, it was last Sunday that this happened with this stage, and they haven't found a motive. What's your sense...


CLEMENTE: Well, clearly he wasn't telegraphing a motive. Clearly he wasn't sending a message, a particular message, but I think his behavior tells us a message loud and clear. He wanted to prove his superiority over the human beings that's why he chose sniping. Snipers typically have a guide complex and that means they feel omnipotent. They want to take live from a distance without having any personal interaction with those they kill.

So I think his motive was really to prove that superiority. And I think he did it, he tried to do it in the biggest possible way.

CHURCH: And why do you say that, why do you feel though there was this guide complex. What are the signals?

CLEMENTE: Well, snipers typically have a guide complex and that is they choose a method of killing that is distance from the people they kill. They're not even, they don't even know who it is that they're killing but he didn't use a bomb, he didn't use a knife. He didn't go with a gun and go right to somebody's face and kill them face-to-face.

He did it from a distance and above, and that is an indicator that he has a guide complex. So I think the arrogance that is displayed in his statements also are consistent with that guide complex.

CHURCH: And also I wanted to talk to you about the numbers, the calculations were found on that note. What they tell you?

CLEMENTE: Well, I think it just goes to what his brother said, he played poker mathematically. I think he was a calculating guy. I think this whole thing was preplanned. I think he had the intelligence to do this himself.

CHURCH: And now I do want to just go to this 2013 deposition because we don't know very much about this gunman Paddock, but we do know that there was this that came up. I want to quote him directly. This came from the 2013 deposition and is referring to himself.

I want to read this out. "The biggest video poker player in the world. How do I know that? Because I know some of the video poker players they play big, nobody played as much and as long as I did."

Again, I supposed that does talk to this guide complex. CLEMENTE: Yes. His arrogance and he's obviously condescending to not only the people that he's talking to but about the people he's talking about but also tells us that he is a loner.

[03:40:04] Video poker is a lone game. It's not played with other human beings. It's played against the machine. And so he -- it's just proving this antisocial I am alone and above all the others because he's bragging about being the best in the world, probably not true.

CHURCH: Now, we know too that his father who was a bank robber and the FBI he is one of the most wanted man on the top 10 of the FBI most wanted list.


CLEMENTE: Most wanted.

CHURCH: And so he is a psychopath. Is it possible that this is what we're dealing with here?

CLEMENTE: Yes. I think his father apparently was diagnosed as a psychopath but that's only one part of the equation. See, genetics loads the gun psychology and personality aim it, and experiences pull the trigger. So you have to have the complicated mix of bio, psycho and social before you get somebody who does a mass killing like this.

CHURCH: And why are we not hearing more about this from the police then from the authorities?

CLEMENTE: Well, I think they're just, they're in the middle of their investigation. They don't want to actually say things because like today they had to correct the record when they found the time line it was actually different. And I think they want to get it all right which is the right thing to do before they make public statements.

But I've work a lot of these cases over the course of my career and I know my colleagues are in Vegas now, my former colleagues working this investigation. I'm sure to find a lot more out about this guy and his background and his motives.

CHURCH: Jim Clemente, thank you so much for coming in. We appreciate it.

CLEMENTE: Thank you so much for having me.

CHURCH: All right. Let's take a break now. The pressure is growing on top democrats to disavow movie mogul Harvey Weinstein and his money. How some politicians are trying to make amends? That's just ahead.

And the Dominican Republic is a paradise for many visitors but there is a dark reality lurking below the surface for human trafficking victims. What one is doing to help them.

We'll be back in a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. Well, some of Hollywood top actresses is speaking out against media mogul Harvey Weinstein of allegations of sexual harassment. Meryl Streep says and I'm quoting here, "The disgraceful news about Harvey Weinstein as appalled those of us whose work he championed and those whose good and worthy courses he supported. The behavior is inexcusable but the abuse of power familiar. Each brave voice that is raised, heard, and credited by a watchdog media will ultimately change the game."

And then Glenn close said this. "Harvey has always been decent to me but now (AUDIO GAP) are being substantiated, I feel angry and darkly said. I applaud the monumental courage of the women who have spoken up. I hope that their stories and the reportage that gave them their voices represents a tipping point, that most stories will be told and the change will follow."

[03:45:00] Well, Hillary Clinton got campaign donations from Weinstein but she didn't mention the scandal during an appearance at the University of California Davis Monday night. Now Democrats are under growing pressure to disavow Weinstein.

CNN's Athena Jones reports.

ATHENA JONES, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: This time last year Hillary Clinton was bashing fellow candidate Donald Trump over his treatment of women after the release of an Access Hollywood tape in which he was caught on a hot mic bragging about grabbing women's genitals.


HILLARY CLINTON, (D) FORMER UNITED STATES PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger. He goes after their dignity, their self-worth.


JONES: Now in the wake of the bombshell New York Times report about decades of sexual harassment allegations against Harvey Weinstein, a Hollywood heavyweight and major democratic donor there has been no such backlash from Clinton or from President Obama who also benefited from the movie moguls financial support over the years.

That silence from leading democrats hasn't gone unnoticed with Republicans like national Committee Chairman Ronna Romney McDaniel calling out what they view as hypocrisy.


RONNA ROMNEY MCDANIEL, CHAIRWOMAN, REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE: Where's Hillary Clinton? Where is she standing on this issue? She has been silent. Her silence is deafening.


JONES: And Donald Trump Junior tweeting, "Weird. Hillary has been really quiet about Harvey Weinstein, you would think she would be all over this. Hash tag, what happened?"

Weinstein hasn't just been a longtime supporter of the Clintons. According to federal election commission filings the now former studio exec donated more than $650,000 to democrats since the late 90s including a long list of candidates from Obama to Elizabeth Warren and to various democratic organizations.

His activism his deep pockets and his success on the big screen the kind of track record that earned him praise.


MICHELLE OBAMA, FORMER FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: He is a wonderful human being, a good friend and just a powerhouse.


JONES: A few of his old beneficiaries are turning on the movie mogul.


CHUCK SCHUMER, (D) UNITED STATES SENATOR: I think what he did is just awful, awful, awful.


JONES: The Democratic National Committee was called the allegations deeply troubling plans to donate some $30,000, a small portion of the money Weinstein contributed over the years to several groups including Emily's list, an organization that works to get pro-choice democratic women elected to public office. All part of efforts to distance themselves from a now disgraced former patron.

And several democratic senators who have received contributions from Weinstein have now given that money to charity, in many cases are giving to groups that are aimed at helping women in particular.

Earlier today, speaking on CNN, Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal encouraged his colleagues to use the money they got from Weinstein to support causes like combating sexual harassment, sexual assault, and domestic violence. He donated the money that he got from Weinstein to the Connecticut alliance to end sexual violence.

Back to you.

CHURCH: The CNN's Freedom Project is committed to shining a light on modern-day slavery. This week we are looking at the Dominican Republic, a beautiful tourist destination that's also a center of human trafficking and child prostitution.

CNN's Don Riddell tells us about an organization that's trying to change that.

DON RIDDELL, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Benjamin Watson is back in action with the Ravens this season. The titan is focused on the task in hand, winning the Super Bowl for Baltimore. But he does have other things on his mind.

During the off-season Watson took a trip to Dominican Republic, a country where human trafficking and in particular, the sexual exploitation of children is a major problem.


BENJAMIN WATSON, TIGHT END, BALTIMORE RAVENS: It was an easy decision, we just wanted to come and learn. This promotes prey on the poor. They prey on the vulnerable, they prey on the voiceless.


RIDDELL: Watson along with his wife Kirsten and five other NFL players and their families arrived in Santa Domingo to partner up with International Justice Mission, an NGO dedicated to fighting the problem.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So we are IJM we work with children around the world.


RIDDELL: This included a day of activities and fun for some of the children IJM held free and it was built as a day of joy.


SEAN WEATHERSPOON, LINEBACKER, NFL: Definitely I'm looking forward to spending my time learning into some, you know, bring us some more awareness about this whole mission and bring them to the stage, you know, spread it to my buddies I think that's my job.

[03:49:54] DON DAVIS, FORMER NFL LINEBACKER: To be able to look into the eyes of a child and, you know, not to inspire them but just to say somebody loves you, you know, you're valuable. Your life has value.

WATSON: My hope is that people here, survivors here know that people a world away care and understand and know about what they're going through.


RIDDELL: And IJM says it's not just girls who end up exploited. They have encountered an alarming number of young boys who were forced into pornography and prostitution often by their families just to make ends meet.


TREY BURTON, TIGHT END, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES: I have three kids, three young kids on my own. And I just, you know, I just couldn't fathom that ever happening to my children. And I believe there needs to be justice to these men and these women. They are forcing these children to do this horrible acts.


RIDDELL: Daisy Nunez who is on the ground in the country as part of IJM's efforts knows what this means to the children.


DAISY NUNEZ, DIRECTOR OF AFTERCARE, IJM DOMINICAN REPUBLIC: Sowhen these people come and they know their names and they bring gifts and they want to play games with them or have a snack with them it's really meaningful. That mean to them I am valuable.


RIDDELL: It's clear that these players have been profoundly moved by this experience. In times I've seen them lost in soul tore on the verge of tears but it's also been inspiring and uplifting.


WATSON: Any time you go to a situation like this you think that there's going to be a sense of despair and helplessness, but on the contrary there is always a glimmer of hope interacting with some of these boys. They're smiling, they've been to so much.

DAVIS: To be able to bring someone who some relief who is suffering. There is no better feeling on that, right? And it seems so cliche to say but playing football and winning championships is minor when you think about helping the world, bringing relief to the world, doing good to those who don't even know your name.


RIDDELL: These children might never their names but it's quite possible they'll never forget the man who came to show them kindness. And by taking the story back home with them to the United States they will continue to help from afar.

Don Riddell, CNN, Dominican Republic.


CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham played a round of golf with Donald Trump on Monday in Virginia and he says the president shot an impressive 73. But according to new reports filed in the U.K., Mr. Trump's two golf resorts there are not quite up to par.

CNN's Samuel Burke reports.

SAMUEL BURKE, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, this is looking like anything but a hole-in-one for President Trump. This two golf courses actually represent his largest investment anywhere outside of the United States. And if you look at the numbers instead of getting better things are actually getting worse. If we just look at the Trump Turnberry resort which is in the

southwest of Scotland losses for 2015 $11.3 million, for 2016 new documents just reveals that those losses ballooned to $23.1 million.

Now President Trump has already had to loan these two properties $200 million, neither of which have turned a profit. And CNN Money spoke to the manager of one of these golf courses who said the traffic to the golf course has actually been very strong over the past year, so that's a lot of people to believe that the fundamental business here is we get these properties.

[03:55:03] Now, you may recall that Donald Trump ignored the advice of government ethics experts who advised him to actually sell his business holdings. So he's no longer the director of these golf courses. He resigned as director before inauguration in January 2017 but he is still technically the owner via a trust and now his son Eric Trump is the director of the two golf courses.

Any profit that they might get would come to Donald Trump after he leaves office although at this point it just doesn't look like there's any profit to be had.

CHURCH: Samuel Burke reporting there. Well, the president's current wife Melania is firing back at Mr. Trump's first wife, Ivana, over the title first lady.

CNN's Jeanne Moos tells us what spark the feud.

JEANNE MOOS, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: First wife versus first lady infighting among the hair, read one comment. It started with Ivana promoting her new book raising Trump, the book SNL predicted back when the couple split.


IVANA TRUMP, FORMER WIFE OF DONALD TRUMP: Look, Donald, but you just wait until I write my book.


MOOS: Well, now it's written and the book tour has begun. Ivana described how she talks to her ex, the president about once every two weeks.


I. TRUMP: I have a direct number to the White House, but I don't really want to call him there because Melania is there and I don't want to cause any kind of jealousy or something like that because I'm basically first Trump but the first lady with get...


MOOS: And with that little joke about Ivana being first lady the actual first lady erupted. Her spokesperson, "Melania plans to use her title and role to help children not sell books. There is clearly no substance to this statement from an ex. This is unfortunately only attention seeking and self-serving noise."

Melania certainly seem to be reacting. Read one tweet, "Elect the reality TV star and get the real housewives of Trump land." When Ivana and the future president separated more than 25 years ago it was a juicy story.


MOOS: He and Ivana have a prenuptial agreement.


MOOS: And though Ivana now says.


I. TRUMP: Donald and I the divorce was brutal.


MOOS: Once it was over they made a commercial together.


D. TRUMP: It's wrong, isn't it?

I. TRUMP: But it's so right.

D. TRUMP: And it's a deal?

I. TRUMP: Yes, we got pizza the wrong way.

D. TRUMP: Crust first.


MOOS: If only the two wives could share a pizza then change notes on the man to whom they both said, I do.


I. TRUMP: If you're good to him he's incredible to you. If you're bad at him, you're dead.


MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN.


I. TRUMP: (Inaudible) the last fight?

D. TRUMP: Actually you're only entitled to have.


MOOS: New York.

CHURCH: And thank you so much for your company this hour. I'm Rosemary Church. The news continues next with Max Foster in London.

And have yourselves a great day.