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[23:01:00] DON LEMON, CNN TONIGHT NEWS SHOW HOST: This is CNN tonight, I am Don Lemon, and it is just a little past 11:01 here on the east coast. We are live with new developments in two major stories and GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore calling allegations that he sexually assaulted a 14-year-old girl decades ago completely false and misleading. And also tonight, a report on President Trump former national security adviser Michael Flynn and his son are alleged to have been offered millions of dollars to forcibly to remove a Muslim cleric from the United States, a man that was wanted by Turkey. That is where we begin this hour, I want to bring in CNN contributor John Dean and a former White House counsel to President Nixon and national security analyst Juliette Kayyem, Renato Mariotti a former federal prosecutor and Robert Anderson, former FBI assistant director of counter intelligence for Robert Mueller, good evening to all of you, Juliette, I want to start with you. The Wall Street Journal reporting today that former national security adviser Michael Flynn and his son were offered as much as $15 million to forcibly remove Turkish opposition, leader of the U.S. where he had been residing and delivered him to Turkish custody, what do you make of that?
JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: It is a pretty explosive story for a couple of reasons. This is the second meeting that Flynn had conversation about the cleric. Remember earlier before the Trump had won the presidency, there was a meeting, it is the meeting with Jim Woolsey the former CIA Director talks about that and the meeting that made him uncomfortable. Flynn is actually the national security adviser about to become national security adviser so it is unclear of this $15 million is in his capacity or consultant or laws are being violated here across the board here. This is the focus of Mueller's investigation. What does it mean? It appears that it is not about collusion or obstruction of justice at this stage. Why did Comey get fired and what was the Trump's White House trying to hide whether it had to do with the Russians, financial dealings or the Turks, it appears not to matter to Mueller anymore. This is explosive because it puts Flynn in a huge liability at this time.
LEMON: I want to get to something else, this is Michael Flynn's lawyer issuing a statement. Quote, "out of respect for the process of the various investigations regarding 2016 campaign, we have intentionally avoided responding to very rumor allegation raised in the media, but today's news cycle has brought allegations about General Flynn ranging from kidnapping to bribery that are so outrageous and prejudicial that we are making an exception to our usual rule. You're Thoughts?
KAYYEM: The same lawyer who said they never had contacts with the Russians. That is all I am going to say.
LEMON: All right. Well put. And concise. John if this allegations are true. What are the legal ramifications of this? Si it kidnapping? No?
JOHN DEAN, FORMER NIXON WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL: It certainly sounds like kidnapping. We have on the federal statutes that it is so called Lindbergh law after it was taken across state line. We had that in the books for a long time. This issue actually came up in the Nixon White House. They want to clear the way to snatch drug dealers. I refer it over the Justice Department and the State Department and it never got approved.
LEMON: Yesterday we report that Mueller has been voicing concern for his son's criminal liability, does he have even more reason to be concerned after today's news?
RENATO MARIOTTI, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: There is no question, I mean is one thing to not report that you are a foreign agent.
LEMON: I meant Flynn, I am sorry about that.
[23:05:06] MARIOTTI: Yes, I know what you meant. We were not talking about Mueller. You know it one thing to not report that you are foreign agent is another thing to have conspiracy to kidnap someone in exchange for $15 million. I mean it sounds like a bad Steven Seagull movie, right? It is something people at home don't need us on TV to tell them it is something really bad and it is a crime and our judges are not going to like it and if you are convicted to that, you are going to go to prison for a long time. It is serious and the question is did he agreed to do that? Was there concrete step if furtherance of that conspiracy and it is certainly up the anti and if I were Mueller, I'll be trying would be trying to do whatever I could to try to prove that up and if I were a lawyer for Flynn and his son, I would be very concern about criminal liability, I would be trying to get my clients to stop taking hot shots at Mueller on twitter and instead to take this very seriously.
LEMON: How would it affect his participation in this with his concerns, how he participate in this investigation?
DEAN: Well, a Judge can look at no matter what he is convicted of. Let us just say he is convicted only of not reporting the fact that he is an agent. Federal prosecutors can put any evidence that they have in front of the Judge about his as a character or who he is as a person. It is history and characteristics of the defendant and they can tell the Judge anything, any evidence that they have about him. Including this, the Judge can take it into account and if the Judge sees evidence that includes there is truth to this and he was involved in something like this. The Judge can increase the sentence based on himself. It is something could increase by the time he spends in prison.
LEMON: All right Robert your turn. Yu worked for several years under Robert Mueller as assistant director in counter intelligence and you just wrote an article for time.com and it is called "how Mueller runs a case," can you walk us through Mueller's strategy at the moment, is it clear to you what he is doing?
ROBERT ANDERSON, MANAGING DIRECTOR AT NAVIGANT: There is no doubt. It is classic Bob Mueller. I worked for him for the entire 12 years, he was a Director and really starting at some of the colleagues on the news tonight, he is starting the predicate offense of collusion of a foreign power and potentially Russia. What people don't understand is he is going to look at everybody that was around or near the potential or incoming President at the time these accusations started to fall. And you are seeing some of that now with Flynn and Manafort. Anything within the scope of the investigation is going to come out from it. You will see much more in my estimation and the coming weeks of charges and wire fraud and different violations that people don't even know that he is going to be looking at and it is all of on the initial predication. He will do this extremely mythically, you are going to see many people in my opinion as the days and months go on. These are heavy, heavy charges. You are not looking at a couple of years in jail. That is a five year minimum mandatory. I think you are going see a lot more people coming to the United States at the attorney's office and special prosecutor's office looking to collaborate of what Bob Mueller is doing.
LEMON: Robert Mueller originally launching this investigation and looking at possible collusion with Russia and here we are today talking about Flynn and his son possibly getting paid millions, kidnap a Turkish opposition leader, what does it say to you that the scope of this investigation, it appears to be getting more broad, is it?
ANDERSON: This happens a lot in federal investigation, you don't see it on TV because none of them are dramatic or publicize. It is high profile. Usually you will get into the investigation especially when it comes to counter intelligence and espionage investigations. While you are doing the investigation along the same good face and looking into the different people in their aspect, you will find all these other criminal violations that carry a very heavy hit. I think that is what you are seeing going on here now.
LEMON: From what you know, Robert Mueller, do you think he has Donald Trump's tax returns?
ANDERSON: No. I don't know if he has Donald Trump's tax returns or not. I can tell you Bob Mueller is no stranger to pressure. He came into the FBI right at 9/11 and he took over the organization at probably the most critical point in the nation's history and I have never seen the man flinched.
LEMON: John, yesterday, the senate judiciary committee approved Brett Tally, as the federal judge in Alabama, this is a lifetime appointment. But his nomination is raising eye brows. He is only 36, he only practice law for 3 years and he never actually tried a case and was rated not qualified by the American bar association judicial rating committee and has in the past pledged support for the NRA. How is he an appropriate candidate for a high level position?
[23:10:26] DEAN: Flagships Don are controlled largely by the office of the Attorney General, the deputy Attorney General. They work with the Senators of the state and the district courts. That is where they percolate up. The Senators from the home state have the blue slip if they object to an appointee and obviously, there were no blue slips here, because it went right on through. Both administrations always suffer from charges of Judges not being qualified. The fact that the man did not try the case is not good, he is going to have a lot of on the job training. And he is going to be a good trial Judge when he finishes.
LEMON: It is just amazing that -- as I was saying, of course, I could not believe the words that were coming out of my mouth. A lifetime appointment.
DEMINGS: I know.
LEMON: Only practiced law for three years, has never actually tried a case, rated not qualified by the American bar association, judicial rating committee and in the past pledged support to the NRA, that - OK. Anyway Juliet, the A.G. Jeff Sessions will testify before the House Judiciary Committee next week. He will face more questions about the Trump's campaign interactions with Russians last year
Sessions have been watching the drama unfold with Manafort and Papadopoulos and knows that Flynn and his son could be next. Do you think he will talk?
KAYYEM: I think he will have a lot of memory moments of which now he is going to start to remember a lot of things that he appeared to have forgotten before, he simply cannot sort of misremember or forget how many times or who he met with which clearly he did when he confirmed. I actually think that Steven Miller probably ends at being one of the sort of more dis-concerning aspects of this network. Steven Miller, Miller came to Trump's White House through the Attorney General and Miller has been interviewed and he was also in the room and sort of priding President Trump to fire Comey so there are questions about discussions about obstruction of justice and so for the Attorney General, he is just so close to the White House and the people that even his recusal was not going to save him. It wasn't going to save anyone and put him in a worse position and no control over the investigation. He is going to go, you know, he has so many people he is tied to, who may have done something very, very wrong including the Attorney General himself who was in the room often with the Russians. It will not be a fun week for the Attorney General next week.
LEMON: This was a great discussion, I enjoy all of you. Thank you, I will see you next time, I appreciate it.
Up next, Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore, calling his allegations of sexual assault completely false and misleading. Moore's brother says the persecution is not unlike what Jesus endorsed. We'll ask a pastor about state of faith in political scandal.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:17:48] LEMON: Judge Roy Moore is forcibly fighting back tonight
against allegations that he sexually assaulted the 14-year-old girl decades ago. Calling the allegations completely false and misleading. Joining me now the A.R. Bernard founder and pastor of the Christian Culture Center, he is a former member of the board of the evangelical adviser to President Trump. Thank you, it is been a long week.
To say the least.
LEMON: Thank you so much, this is an important conversation. I am so glad to have you on. This controversy have brought comparisons to Jesus Christ. I want to read this was Alabama State Jim Zigors says if true, the Roy Moore situation will be ultimately OK. He says take Joseph and Mary, Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter, they became parents of Jesus, there is just nothing immoral or illegal here, maybe just a little bit unusual. And then his brother, Moore's brother Jerry told CNN Martin Savidge that his brother being persecuted like Jesus Christ. As a person of faith, does that make you, how do you feel about this? Does this make you comfortable?
A.R. BERNARD, FOUNDER AND PASTOR, CHRISTIAN CULTURAL CENTER: I feel disturbed by it, because any time we continue the American narratives which is to misuse scripture to justify act of violence or grim. That is the American story. We'll make comparisons, I would say a lot of our leadership from the top or down is more of a (inaudible) whose concession by god placed in a position of power to expose a spiritual moral and condition of the nation.
LEMON: One of the people CNN talked to about Moore allegations, even if he did it, even it is proved to be true, I still would not support Roy Moore, because I feel it happens in the past. Listen, forgiveness is certainly part of faith, right? What about accountability?
BERNARD: Absolutely. I mean, we do live in the attention between the reality of our fall in human nature and the idea that moral standard is presented to us by god. However all Christians believe in the scripture that says grace and truth came before Jesus Christ. Grace deals with guilt and forgiveness. Truth confronts us for our actions and hold us accountable.
[23:20:18] LEMON: Evangelical support for the president as you know has been very consistent and very high. And it shows here, pastor that his approval has fallen eight points down to 66 percent. You know he routinely belittles and threatens people. He has a tenuous relationship with the truth. Why do you think Christians continue to support him?
BERNARD: First of all, the Evangelical community has many opinions of what's going on in the White House and the nation. Not everyone is agreeing with him or what he is doing. They do believe that they should have a moral President in society. Unfortunately when that moral voice becomes challenge and loses its credibility then they got a problem. Our greatest strengths is our moral influence and society.
LEMON: Moore's had a fundraising email after the Washington Post story broke, it says the forces of evil will lie, cheat and steal and even inflict physical harm if they believe it will shut up Christian conservatives like you and me. Do you find it to be true?
BERNARD: No. That is political Christian (inaudible). That is a language that is common in certain circles. Let's zoom out. What we are seeing play out before us, it is symptomatic of a bigger reality. You know history is not written by the victims. During the process of time when those who are victims emerge of positions of power. They begin to reevaluate of history and the American narrative. Women have experienced unprecedented wealth and education of mobility. They are now reevaluating the things they used to put up with and they are saying no more and they are coming together. All of this emboldens them to change the future of American narrative.
LEMON: One more question to you. I found it fascinating that their also, this is one county Republican chairman and I heard others say they would vote for him anyway even if it is true, because they would rather him than a Democrats.
BERNARD: Yes. I believe that. I believe they are willing to do that. I think when it comes to their priority, it is about pushing back against what they perceive as the enemy.
LEMON: I am for the bible though, I am very religious Deep South Louisiana. You know, church on Sundays. I don't understand how you reconcile that?
BERNARD: Come on Don, slavery was justified. Preachers were preaching from their pope for and against slavery. We can take the scripture and twist it to justify. It does not holdup.
LEMON: Thank you. Always a pleasure. I really appreciate it. See you next time, hopefully, it is better circumstances.
LEMON: When we come back, why hypocrisy, sex and politics. Why voters tend to standby their party pick even in the face of a serious allegations and moral shortcomings.
[23:28:03] LEMON: Republicans are circling the wagon. Lining up behind politicians tainted by scandal is nothing new for either Party. CNN Miguel Marquez has the story. Miguel?
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Don, maybe we be in ne new territories when it comes to sex scandals and party politics, the stakes are rarely higher and politicians are hard press to do what's politically expedient or do what's right
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MARQUEZ: Hypocrisy, sex and politics.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If you look at Bill Clinton. Far worse minor words and his actions.
MARQUEZ: As common and as old as --
BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I did not have sexual relationship with that woman.
MARQUEZ: Hypocrisy, sex and politics.
TRUMP: You can do anything, grab them by the (BEEP).
MARQUEZ: Many Republican were disgusted by Donald Trump's remark about women on the "Access Hollywood" video from 2005, it surface in the final stretch of the presidential campaign. Some Republicans withdrew their endorsement of candidate Trump and most did not.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I certainly would not engage in that kind of answer.
MARQUEZ: Bill Clinton was impeach for lying about his affair with an intern. His wife stood by him.
HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: This vast right wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president.
MARQUEZ: Hillary Clinton defense of her husband's defense followed her right up to the 2016 election.
TRUMP: There is never been anybody in the history of politics in this nation that has been so abusive to women.
MARQUEZ: Flynn, candidate Trump but Bill Clinton's sexual harassment accusers to the second presidential debate.
TRUMP: These (ph) four courageous women have asked to be here.
MARQUEZ: He presented their claims as true for those who accuse him of the same content.
TRUMP: Take a look, you take a look, look at her and look at her words. You tell me what you think, I don't think so.
MARQUEZ: When it comes to the claims of women in an exhausted Washington Post story, some of them under the age of the consent at the time accusing Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual abusive behavior and the White House and many Republicans taken cover behind, two words "if true."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If they are true, he should step aside.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If there are true he need to step aside.
SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, DEPUTY WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Technically he is not allowed, but mere allegations in this stage for many years ago to destroy a person's life. However the president also believes that if this allegations are true, Judge Moore will do the right thing and step aside.
MARQUEZ: Steve Bannon and former adviser to the president goes even further saying the moral allegations are little more than politics, just like the "Access Hollywood" video.
STEVE BANNON, CHIEF STRATEGIST TO THE WHITE HOUSE: It is interesting, the Amazon, Washington Post that dropped that dime on Donald Trump, it is the same Bezos, Amazon, Washington Post that dropped the dime this afternoon on Judge Roy Moore. Now is that a coincidence?
MARQUEZ: The Washington broke both of those stories. The only coincidence evident journalism.
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And to be clear, many Republicans have come out and said that Roy Moore should step down from this race. The state Party, the Republican National Committee and the White House have so far stuck by their candidate. Don.
LEMON: Miguel Marquez, thank you very much.
When we come back, Roy Moore throwing a big (inaudible) in Alabama state race while some leading Republicans say step aside and the Judge continues to hold hometown support. What do Americans think, our radio guy, joins me next.
[23:36:26] LEMON: It is unlikely that Roy Moore is in legal danger, the allegations of sexual abuse are 40 years-old, but does that mean he should stand in the Alabama senate race. Let us discuss now Joe Madison host of the Joe Madison show on Sirius XM and Syndicated talk Radio Host John Fredericks. Here we go, good evening gentlemen. Joe you just heard the piece. Miguel Marquez has the story right before the break.
President Trump had no problems believing that Bill Clinton's accuser but when it comes to his reporting on Roy Moore, there is a caveat if true. Why are these allegations treated differently you think?
JOE MADISON, SIRIUS XM: I think because it is politics and being straightforward to answer your question. It is politics. I will tell you this I think people should be very careful, because I had a prosecutor called my show earlier this morning and she said this young lady and probably others can probably tell you what his house looks like and what his underwear looks like and what he was wearing and certain body mark. This is why people I think people tend to believe her. This argument that it happened so long ago, we forget that some young boys with incidents of the Catholic Church start to come from to the forefront, some of these young boys were six years old and did not come out until they are middle age, but it is politics. I think that is exactly what you are seeing.
LEMON: John, there are two camps here in the GOP, the folks who say if he did it, he should step aside and the other camp, people like John McCain and Mitt Romney says he needs to step aside and full stop. Which camp are you in?
JOHN FREDERICKS, HOST, SYNDICATED TALK RADIO: Well Don we have a process in this country that you are not guilty until proven innocent. This is a very sad situation so I am in the camp of let's wait and see. This is interesting Don and Joe, the statute of limitations have run out. There is no legal prosecution or legal case against Judge Moore if indeed these allegations are true. But, it is going to be litigated in the state of Alabama with Alabama voters in four weeks. The evidence is going to continue to trickle out between now and then and voters of Alabama are going to decide if he is innocent or not by the way they show up to the polls in four weeks so that is going to be interesting. You got to be careful here. Because two things bothered me about this if I can expand them.
LEMON: Hey, Jeh Johnson, can I just say something. The longer you go on and the less time we get to ask more questions.
FREDERICKS: Go ahead and ask don whatever --
LEMON: Ok, ok, here is the thing, you said innocent until proven guilty. Here is what Mitt Romney said, innocent of proven guilty, in a criminal conviction not elections he says. I believe her account is too serious too ignore more and unfit for office, he should step aside, you don't think he should step aside?
FREDERICKS: No, I don't think he should step aside, because it is his words against her words and this are allegations. The timing of this is very suspicious. The other thing is the Washington Post waited to break the story until two days after he could not be replaced on the ballot. That is something that Washington Post readers and subscribers are going to have to decide what the legitimacy is.
[23:4021] LEMON: Don't you think, they're trying to get him out of the race, don't you think they would have done it?
MADISON: I am sorry to interrupt, that is not why they waited. It was not a matter of getting these young ladies to come on record. They did not wait for this as they were in cahoots with the timing on thing on this. The problem is not Judge Moore but the morality of the Republican Party and that is what listeners are saying. This is a question of timing, this is a question of whether this man at the age of 32 as a prosecutor was a predator and that is really what he is going to be judged on.
LEMON: John, I got 10 seconds.
FREDERICKS: Joe, he denied this. I mean, you just cannot indict it.
MADISON: A predator too. The priest denied it and Hester denied it and most predator initially do deny it.
FREDERICKS: So now we are going to a process where somebody gives an allegation and they are immediately pronounced guilty by the media, I think that is pretty dangerous and it can happen to any three of us here right now.
MADISON: You did not think that when Bill Cosby was being in the media and a lot of other people so let's be careful.
LEMON: We got to go. When we come back tomorrow is Veterans Day and American hero will join me with his story. One that is so powerful that was made into a movie.
[23:46:13] LEMON: It is Veterans Day tomorrow and there is a new movie called "Thank you for your service," it is the after war that the soldiers bring home in their heads and in their hearts.
It is based on a true story of Army Staff Sergeant Adam Schumann, diagnose with post-traumatic stress disorder after a thousand days of combat in Iraq. Recently, I was privileged to talk to the people behind the movie, take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They didn't take my place in retrieval facility.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ok, what about you? Don't worry about me. The first boat opens up, I am going to get out there.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I cannot leave you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are getting on this bus.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I go and get better while you sit here, broken.
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LEMON: That was a scene from "Thank you for your service." Here to talk about and speaking for the first time by the way Jason Hall, a Director of thank you for your service and Miles Teller who played Adam in the movie, Adam Schumann himself and from Washington, D.C., David Finkel, Pulitzer Prize winning journalism an author of the book, Thank you for you service. I am so glad to have all of you here. This is an important movie that I hope everyone will go and see. This is about people come home from battle scars. Why did you want to do this movie?
JASON HALL, DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE: I think we don't have an understanding of what these guys go through. It is not personal anymore. If we cannot keep it personal, we continue to sending these honorable men and women into conflicts without entering into this conflicts in an honorable way. We got to make sure the conflicts are in to worth of men and women we are sending over.
LEMON: Seeing your life like that on screen, what is it like?
ADAM SCHUMANN, IRAQ WAR VETERAN WHOSE STORY IS TOLD IN THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE: It is the best therapy that I ever had. I have benchmarked to gauge the success that I have had. I can look back at this film and see some places where I was really in a bad spot and I can look at myself in the mirror right now and I can see progress. LEMON: In the movie shows how you and your friend go to the V.A. and
all this bureaucracy that you had to deal with and some people giving lens and you have this bureaucracy, sometimes you don't get help for nine or ten months after.
SCHUMANN: It is a mess and you are naive to it when you get out. Hey, if you need benefits go to the V.A. and you show up and start to give the stack of paper work and you try to navigate it. You don't have a tour guide, you are just told to go to the next window.
LEMON: You are on set with Miles? Jason, what was it like having the person there that you are portraying?
MILES TELLER, ACTOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE: I think the entire film, crew and everybody benefited from having Adam there.
LEMON: What were those conversations like?
TELLER: I don't know, I don't have an agenda but I had the responsibility to this man and his life and any scene, I'll text him or if he is onset talking to me about it. I want to make sure that I would honor him.
LEMON: David, I want to bring you in now, this is the reason that this came to the big screen in large part because of you and because of the book that you wrote. It is a follow-up to your first book, called a good soldier, now this book. Why is this topic, why do you keep returning to this?
DAVID FINKEL, JOURNALIST AND AUTHOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE: Well, I mean, this goes back ten years ago. I met Adam just about ten years ago to the day when he was embedded for a year with an infantry battalion during a surge in the Iraq war. These guys were the 216. They had a tough deployment. They didn't know what they were getting into.
[23:50:02] At one point during a quiet period I was asking around who is a great soldier, who is your best soldier, and someone said you've got to meet this guy Schumann. He is our best. Then when I went to find Adam, it was November 2nd, 2007. He was in his room, this great soldier who was on his third deployment, a thousand days in combat. By every measure had been the soldier anybody would want to have. He was as I say in my book this rather haunted gaunt looking man sitting on the bunk and the accumulation of days and experiences had turned this great soldier into a broken human being.
So I stayed with Adam until he left the war and when my book came out, the first book, it became clear to me that there was a second half of this story to write about soldiers and now their families trying to recover from what had happened over there. I just decided Adam is the guy to build the book around.
LEMON: Yes. He is sitting here listening to you. How do you feel everybody is talking about you in the movie?
SCHUMANN: I was so lucky to have David with me when I came back. And I had a hip pocket therapist, basically, to -- he was my little Garmin GPS in my pocket. He really helped me get through this.
LEMON: Let's play another clip of thank you for your service and then we'll talk a bit more.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I thought you were fine. You're lying to me. I found your V.A. questionnaire. Everything is eye lie. You're sick and I can't do anything if you don't talk to me, Adam.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have to be sick or I can't get my benefits.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So you don't want to die? It was multiple choice and you said you wanted to die. Was that a lie?
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LEMON: So, according to the national center for PTSD, 11 to 12 out of 100 veterans will suffer from PTSD. That is roughly 250,000 men and women who return home from war each other. That means 30,000 of them will experience some level of PTSD. Miles, I know you said you dealt with mental health in your family. How is has this role changed your perspective on that?
TELLER: I mean, I know how difficult it is. It's not something, you know, that, you know, there's no magic bullet for it. In my opinion it's want something that stuffing someone full of opiates is going to help. I think that it takes a lot of really attentive people to help you kind of unwind all of that. And it's extremely complex and we're learning more about it, you know, kind of each year, but it's extremely difficult to diagnose and to treat.
LEMON: Sadly, many of our men and women in uniform who come home, part of that PTSD is addiction.
SCHUMANN: Yeah. I almost died myself from opioid use. Yes. It was luckily my wife caught it and she web MD my symptoms after we were at the V.A. and they were telling me it was an alcoholic and it turned out it was the (inaudible). I was just taking it as needed throughout the day for pain. Never went over my dosage, but they say your liver can't process acetaminophen. My doctor could feel it. They rushed me in and did x-rays and cat scans and then they sent me home, letting me think that, you know, they thought I was just a typical drunk soldier, I guess. And she dumped my pills down the toilet and I spent a couple weeks in detox just hating life.
LEMON: Give us the final word here. What do you want people to know? How to help folks who are coming home, how to treat our veterans some who suddenly make the ultimate sacrifice.
SCHUMANN: Treat them like anybody else. Give them the time of day. Talk to them. If you can help somebody, help them. Reach out and help them.
LEMON: I hope this film makes a difference.
SCHUMANN: Me too.
LEMON: Thank you so much. Thank you for coming in. Thank you for your service. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Thank you so much. David as well. I appreciate you coming in. David, Miles, Adam and Jason.
It's Veterans Day this weekend, and this is a movie you'll want to see. Thank you for your service is in theaters now. We'll be right back.
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