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Jerry Jones Addresses Roger Goodell's Contract; President Trump's Feuds With Black America; Deadly Year For The U.S. 7th Fleet. Aired 7:30-8a ET

Aired November 23, 2017 - 07:30   ET

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[07:31:32] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: All right.

We're learning this morning that the Baltimore homicide detective shot in the head last week was shot with his own gun after a struggle.

Officials say Sean Suiter was killed the day before he was scheduled to appear in front of the grand jury in a corruption case involving several Baltimore police officers, but the police say there is no evidence that Suiter's killing is connected to his scheduled testimony.

The search continues for the killer.

ERICA HILL, CNN ANCHOR: Facebook unveiling a new tool that will show you whether you liked or followed Russian propaganda during the 2016 election. A new portal allows you to see whether they interacted on Facebook or on Instagram with a troll farm with ties to the Russian government.

Facebook saying the move is part of a continuing effort to protect its platforms from bad actors who try to undermine our democracy.

On a much lighter note, you may have caught a little late-night T.V. last night. Well, if not, you're in luck because we've got a little replay.

Chris Cuomo doing a little double-duty right there with one of the kings of late-night. The king in this situation, of course, behind Chris Cuomo. Take a look.

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SETH MEYERS, HOST, NBC "LATE NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS": You are still known -- on the streets of New York you were most famous for Hurricane Irma. You were the guy who -- you're like the guy they make fun of to this day.

CUOMO: Yes.

MEYERS: That's like the worst it ever was for anybody who was out there?

CUOMO: Yes. I mean, look at the picture.

MEYERS: Yes.

CUOMO: I mean, the picture tells you everything you need to know.

MEYERS: And you just toughed it out. You just weren't going to blink, huh?

CUOMO: I -- here was my goal --

MEYERS: OK.

CUOMO: -- OK? But you have to understand, what I am doing is in the business we call very stupid --

MEYERS: Yes, right.

CUOMO: -- OK?

MEYERS: Indubitably.

CUOMO: Because we are -- indubitably. OK, that's good.

MEYERS: Is this a shirt for me?

CUOMO: Well, that -- yes -- it's a little rude, but yes it is.

MEYERS: Yes.

CUOMO: Now you're going to drumpf the gift. So, the T-shirt --

MEYERS: Yes.

CUOMO: I had the T-shirt on. People made a big deal about the T- shirt. This is the T-shirt.

MEYERS: This is the T-shirt?

CUOMO: I don't want the pressure of the T-shirt anymore.

MEYERS: You think I want to work out and have the pressure of your T- shirt?

CUOMO: I think you need the pressure of the T-shirt.

MEYERS: Oh.

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I will take it.

CUOMO: So this --

MEYERS: This is the gauntlet.

CUOMO: This is -- this is the T-shirt. MEYERS: The T-shirt.

CUOMO: This is the T-shirt.

MEYERS: Oh my goodness. Thank you so much.

CUOMO: It is yours.

MEYERS: I really appreciate it.

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HILL: You're a giver.

CUOMO: The T-shirt comes with too much pressure.

HILL: It is a lot of pressure. Are you going to -- are you going to share your regime with him? Concerns about --

CUOMO: No. He is way ahead.

HILL: -- presenting himself in said T-shirt?

CUOMO: He is way ahead. He is younger, he is smarter, he is better. He needs no advice from me.

But now, the mantle of the "T" is his own.

HILL: I look forward to him posting perhaps some pictures of said T- shirt.

CUOMO: It was great to be on there. It is such a -- you know, it's amazing how relevant we've become in this new --

HILL: Yes.

CUOMO: -- political reality.

And that LaVar Ball interview says everything.

HILL: Google Chrome?

CUOMO: Google Chrome -- that's how I'm known --

HILL: Google Chrome.

CUOMO: -- in the hood.

All right.

So tomorrow is Black Friday, the unofficial start of the holiday shopping season. But you know what? Retailers already offering discounts today. Just check your phone.

Chief business correspondent Christine Romans is in our "Money Center" with some tips for you. What do you got, Romans? Happy Thanksgiving. CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: And you know what? It's like Black Friday but it's Brown Thursday because some of these stores are going to start opening up today. So it gets it a little squishy, right?

And 2017 has been brutal for retail. High-profile bankruptcies, record number of store closures. But it's good news for you because retailers want a piece of the estimated trillion dollars you're going to spend this season.

The first store busters already starting right now. They're kicking off today, especially electronics. These are the most anticipated gifts. Things like wireless sound systems, home assistants, and video game consoles.

[07:35:07] Some of the best deals today will be on those consoles, as well as computers, sporting goods, and clothing.

The major retailers are open tonight but most Americans will shop online, especially on your phone or mobile devices, so expect lots of online sales. I'm already starting to get e-mails this morning.

But check the timing. Even online deals have stop and start times. And only buy -- this is my annual warning -- only buy what you can pay off.

CUOMO: Oh, here it comes.

ROMANS: Did you know that --

HILL: Wah-wah.

ROMANS: I know.

Sixteen percent of people still have credit card debt from the gifts they bought last year -- a year later. At 18 percent interest that's just ridiculous. So be really careful. Don't buy stuff you don't need.

HILL: It is a lot about the money.

ROMANS: Don't fall into that trap. They're trying to make you part with your hard-earned money. Only buy what you really can afford.

See, I do that every year and Chris always looks at me like --

CUOMO: The human lump of coal --

HILL: No, no, no. We are --

CUOMO: -- every Christmas.

HILL: -- thankful for the sound financial advice, right?

CUOMO: It is true. You care about people saving their money.

ROMANS: Yes.

CUOMO: You don't like people getting over -- but just the suggestion that you can start shopping right now, I have one of my own cost centers --

HILL: Yes, yes.

CUOMO: -- in that city behind me right now --

ROMANS: Cost center number one.

CUOMO: -- and I'm sure she's hitting up the Amazon Prime as we speak.

ROMANS: Cost center number one behind the glass.

CUOMO: Happy Thanksgiving.

HILL: Thank you.

ROMANS: You, too.

CUOMO: All right.

HILL: Maybe she's buying something for you?

CUOMO: Doubt it.

Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones opens up after reportedly dropping his lawsuit against the NFL over the commissioner's contract extension.

Coy Wire has more in the "Bleacher Report." As always, love to have you. Thankful for you, brother.

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Thankful for you. Mo, good to see you.

Now, Jones and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell have beef while a lot of us are having turkey today.

This "Bleacher Report" presented by the new 2018 Ford F-150.

Now, they have had differing opinions on the handling of NFL players protesting, on the suspension of Jones' star running back Ezekiel Elliott, to some of the reasons perhaps that Jones is not all in on extending on extending Goodell's contract just yet.

I spoke with Jones yesterday and asked him about the hesitation.

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JERRY JONES, OWNER, DALLAS COWBOYS: Well, I'm asking for accountability. Asking for looking at some changes that have occurred while we have been in this discussion. That's not necessarily against bringing Roger Goodell back.

But what I do want to do is when he comes back have a good understanding of the direction that we're going. This is when you do those things.

Because of the power that we give the commissioner, the time to get the pot right is when you either hire him or extend him. And so, I'm wanting the owners to get the pot right.

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WIRE: The owners meet December 13th in Texas.

The Cowboys meet the Chargers later today, one of three games for Thanksgiving.

NEW DAY family, friends, happy Thanksgiving to you. Erica, thankful for you and be sure to tell Chris I'm especially thankful for him and his size extra-sh-medium T-shirt.

HILL: I will. I will do that with pleasure, my friend. Oh look, you can tell him right now.

CUOMO: It's fake news.

WIRE: Oh look -- oh look, I've got to go.

CUOMO: It's fake news. It's an XL.

WIRE: All right. Have a good day.

HILL: Happy Thanksgiving.

CUOMO: I can't really say much. He's in too good a shape. He could beat me up.

HILL: Right. He may be -- he's going to take you down.

The president taking on LaVar Ball, protesting NFL players. Is race a factor in President Trump's feuds? A debate you do not want to miss, next.

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[07:42:30] CUOMO: In the last few weeks, President Trump has sparred with, among others, an outspoken basketball father, protesting NFL players, the widow of an American soldier, and a congresswoman who was helping that grieving woman. The common thread with all of them? They're all African-American.

Why is President Trump feuding with black America? And then there's another question which is, is that what he's doing?

Let's bring in CNN political commentators Symone Sanders and Paris Dennard. Happy Thanksgiving to you both on this special day.

Of course, it doesn't need to be said we will argue, but with decency. We have the case for and against.

Symone Sanders, why do you think that there is a non-coincidental connection to the president picking targets and those targets being African-Americans?

SYMONE SANDERS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, COMMUNICATIONS CONSULTANT, PRIORITIES USA ACTION: Because I think at the root of it, Donald Trump believes that all of these individuals should be grateful that he's done x, y, or z. I really think ungrateful is the new uppity.

And so, because these people of color, particularly these black people, whether it be the UCLA players or whether it be NFL players who should just be quote-unquote grateful to be on the field and play football -- because they have chosen to speak out and be outspoken, I think on some level Donald Trump thinks that's inappropriate because there are so many other things that these players and individuals should be quote-unquote grateful for --

CUOMO: Paris Dennard --

SANDERS: -- and I think that's problematic.

CUOMO: Paris Dennard?

PARIS DENNARD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, FORMER WHITE HOUSE DIRECTOR OF BLACK OUTREACH, BUSH ADMINISTRATION: I don't think the president is picking fights with anybody. I think he's responding in-kind.

And I don't -- I disagree with the premise that this somehow has any type of racial overtures because look, at the end of the day, we know this president is an equal opportunity tweeter. He will tweet at a person who happens to be black if he has something to say. He'll tweet at somebody who happens to be white or Hispanic or a Republican or a Democrat.

He will tweet and he will respond if somebody says something about him or to him that he disagrees with to set the record straight. And so to imply that this is somehow a racial thing or to imply that he only picks fights or tweets to African-Americans is just untrue.

CUOMO: Symone, he's an equal opportunity offender.

SANDERS: Hey, you know what? Look, the president definitely has a problem in my opinion.

I'd like to note that none of this is normal. It is not normal for the President of the United States to pick fights with folks over Twitter, let alone pick fights with people, period.

DENNARD: He's not picking fights.

SANDERS: But I think what's -- I think what's problematic here is this. Look, if Donald Trump wants to continue to be President of the United States he needs to get a thicker skin.

[07:45:00] What about LaVar Ball speaking out, NFL players taking a knee bothers him? What about Frederica Wilson telling her truth bothers him so much to the point that he has to attack them a lot of times based on what they look like?

He attacked LaVar Ball, saying he was poor man's version of Don King. That is absolutely a dog-whistle.

And so what about these particular folks, specifically in that UCLA player's case, that makes Donald Trump think that they should be grateful to him? I don't understand --

DENNARD: Because they're not in a Chinese jail. It's very simple, Symone.

They should be grateful to the president for intervening because they're not -- today, they're with their families for Thanksgiving. They could have been sitting in a Chinese jail for 15 some odd years of play. That's what they should be grateful for.

SANDERS: So I'm not in the -- and what I'm saying is I'm not in the habit -- I'm not in the habit of giving people cookies and candy and pats on the back for things they should be doing.

Donald Trump and the State Department did what they should do. Often, actually, what the State Department does in many cases across the world when Americans get in trouble. And they often do so without tweets from the president and folks saying you have to tell me thank you.

And so I think the problem here is that Donald Trump has presumably done a lot of things since he's been in office and for all we know, he's gotten other people out of pickles in international situations.

DENNARD: Well, I think this is a little bit --

SANDERS: So why are these black players being singled out? And I don't think we can ignore that with a president who has -- clearly has some racial problems and some racial issues.

DENNARD: Well, I think the -- I do want to get her name right -- Aya Hijazi, the Egyptian-American whom -- who got herself in a pickle, as you call it, who he helped get out.

When you talk about Otto Warmbier --

CUOMO: Warmbier.

DENNARD: Warmbier, thank you, Chris -- who got himself in a pickle, as you want to call it. The president intervened and got him out.

And so, these are not just pickles. These are serious things that are happening overseas to our citizens. The president is intervening and everybody who is rescued, is saved, they should be grateful and thankful.

CUOMO: But should he say, Paris, be grateful to me and if I don't hear it and it's not to my satisfaction I will then criticize you for not doing it enough? Should a president do that?

DENNARD: Well, I don't think that's what happened here. I think what happened was it was the father who went out and cheapened that and tried to insinuate that it wasn't the president. The son said thank you. The son appreciated the role --

CUOMO: Yes, he did. All of the players did.

DENNARD: All of the players did and the president didn't comment on that. The president actually intervened on their behalf -- these three African-Americans -- since this man is so racist --

CUOMO: Right.

DENNARD: -- without provocation from him.

CUOMO: The idea is that the president -- look, I'm not defending LaVar Ball, OK? I've had -- there's plenty of -- I got a whole new nickname because of him. Believe me, I'm not here to do that.

What I'm saying is this. The president -- should the president be in the business of saying hey, thank me for what I did, or is he doing his duty? Is he showing just stewardship of the people that he was elected to represent? Should he be in the business of saying thank me or else?

SANDERS: I mean, there are so many other things, though, Donald Trump should be worried about. There's -- there are a litany of national security issues that the United States of America is facing and for the life of me, I don't understand why the President of the United States allows LaVar Ball, NFL players, and whoever else to get under his skin.

And so, I really think we have to evaluate here what -- why is this bothering the president so much? And the only thing that I can fathom is because the president does not believe that LaVar Ball has -- he had the audacity to speak out against him, to not be grateful. And that, my friends, is coated dog-whistle language.

DENNARD: No, no, no, it's just the fact that someone should be just unfathomed by the fact that we -- I just intervened to help your child not sit in a Chinese jail during Thanksgiving and Christmas for a -- for a crime that he should not have done and he admitted to doing, and he's at home and you're not grateful.

I think, Symone, if that happened to you, you would be grateful. If it was a Democrat who got him out, if it was a Republican who got him out, or if it was a Communist or a Socialist that got him out, I would just say thank you, and that is all that it is.

And the president's able to tweet and deal with other international affairs, domestic affairs like help pass tax cuts for middle-class Americans and small businesses at the same time. He's fully capable of doing that. He can multi-task and he does it well.

SANDERS: Well, I'd just like to note that the President of the United States has came harder for LaVar Ball and NFL players than he has for white supremacists, neo-Nazis, members of the KKK, and Roy Moore for being a pedophile.

DENNARD: He's denounced them multiple times for many years and we know that. Don't try to -- that's a silly dog-whistle right there and you know that. It's unfair and it's untrue.

The president is strong in his -- strong in denouncing KKK, white supremacists, and the like. But at the same time, those fathers -- that father and anybody else who does not show appreciation for what he did is wrong. It's ungrateful and it was a foolish thing to do. Just be grateful and say thank you.

SANDERS: Well, I wouldn't have said thank you, either.

DENNARD: You should have and that's unfortunate. But I hope, Symone, you'd never get in a situation where you'd need to thank the president for rescuing your child from being in a Chinese jail for stealing Louis Vuitton sunglasses. I pray that never happens to you because it's a serious thing.

SANDERS: Absolutely. We all can agree on that.

CUOMO: We all can agree on that. Oh, that was good -- jinx. All right.

[07:50:03] Happy Thanksgiving to you both. We are thankful for the difference in perspective that you bring to the show. Appreciate it. The best to you and your families.

DENNARD: Thank you, Chris.

SANDERS: Happy Thanksgiving, you all.

CUOMO: Absolutely. Erica --

HILL: The search for -- is expanding now for three missing Navy sailors after a plane crash off the coast of Japan. It has been a deadly year for the U.S. Seventh Fleet. We'll discuss, next.

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CUOMO: The search is expanding this morning for three Navy missing sailors after a transport plane crashed off the coast of Japan yesterday. This is the latest in a string of deadly accidents involving the U.S. Seventh Fleet.

Joining us now is Kirk Lippold. He's the retired commander of the USS Cole and president of Lippold Strategies. Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you for joining us, sir.

KIRK LIPPOLD, PRESIDENT, LIPPOLD STRATEGIES, FORMER COMMANDER, USS COLE: Happy Thanksgiving to you and Erica, as well, Chris.

HILL: Thank you.

CUOMO: So, this story, put it into context for us. What do you see in this string of events that we've been monitoring with the U.S. Navy? [07:55:03] LIPPOLD: Well, obviously, first and foremost, our prayers go out to the families so that hopefully these people can be found and recovered safely.

But I think what you're seeing, Chris, is a larger systemic issue where, once again, the Navy is at the tip of the spear. This is the most active theater that they operate in. Clearly, the tempo of operations is having a price. They've spent years living under sequestration.

And now, you've essentially got a Department of Defense that does not have a budget, thanks to Congress not doing their job, and you've got a Navy that is clearly undermanned, undertrained, and underequipped with fleet.

And we may be seeing just the tip of the spear at a hollow force that, in fact, is having more of these problems and it's being measured in sailor's lives.

HILL: It is a terrible measurement that no one wants to see. And when you lay it out there, of course -- undermanned, underfunded -- the big question is how does that change based on everything you've said because there are families right now watching, saying my child, my loved one is there, perhaps, with the Seventh Fleet -- or could be?

How do you answer them?

LIPPOLD: Absolutely. These young men and women -- we -- they choose to serve. Their families give them to the Navy with the responsibility that they'll put them in harm's way but they'll do it in a manner where they can be protected, where they can be safe, where they can come home.

And right now what we're seeing is that we have a larger problem in the Navy and in all the services, as a matter of fact, where we're beginning to see a series of incidents.

When you look at the training that clearly came out and was in a shortfall with the collisions on John S. McCain and on the USS Fitzgerald, 17 sailors died because the Navy had not invested in training for literally years.

And now, with these aircraft -- it's a twin-engine turboprop. This type of aircraft should have had -- if there was an engine failure, the other engine still should have been able to operate to get to the carrier to land safely. The fact that both engines quit could be indicative that there was a larger problem.

I hope they can find the aircraft -- recover it -- so that we can really get to the root cause of why this airplane went down and the eight survivors are going to be critical in their interviews as the investigation moves forward.

CUOMO: Now, Kirk, one of the reasons I was so anxious to get you on this morning is to deal with the pushback. The pushback is we are making a lot of the exception, not the rule. And that even though this past year has been an atypically accident --

tragedy-riddled year, overall flights like this one are routine and they go 90-plus percent of the time without any kind of incident. The Navy's record is stellar and we are harping on the negative instead of the overall reality.

Your take?

LIPPOLD: I think you're -- in some ways you're absolutely right, Chris, that -- look, these aircraft are incredibly reliable. They're called CODs (Carrier Onboard Delivery). But let's not forget, the last of these aircraft came off the line in 1990 so they're 27 years old.

And while the Navy is investing probably around $20 million to do structural upgrades and enhancements on avionics to keep them safe and make them go to their full service life, we need to start looking when are the replacements coming and are these aircraft, in fact, being maintained in a manner? Are the crews being trained in a methodology that allows them to continue to operate safely?

Just because you had a good track record last year, great. That was last year. What's the track record today because that's the metric? What are we looking at today to make sure these young men and women are safe when they use these aircraft or sail these ships out in -- especially the Pacific Fleet, our most active area of operations?

CUOMO: So it's not just about statistics, it's systemic. That's the take from Kirk Lippold, and you would know -- commander of the USS Cole.

Thank you, sir. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

LIPPOLD: Thank you to you and, Chris -- thank you, Chris. You and Erica, as well.

HILL: Thank you.

CUOMO: All right. The news did not take the day off on this Thanksgiving. There are some important headlines.

What do you say? Let's get after it.

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CUOMO: A senior Republican lawmaker is apologizing after an explicit photo of him circulated on social media.

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: Now, a woman says Joe Barton warned he would report her to Capitol Police.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Barton raised the possibility that he is the victim of revenge porn.

REP. DEBBIE DINGELL (D), MICHIGAN: We're starting a conversation on sexual assault, violence. I think we're awakening people's consciousness.

JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump airing his grievances in a series of tweets.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's waging these controversial, divisive cultural wars, which he feels as if he can win.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, you're the commander in chief. Stop this kind of absolute foolishness.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The balloons being inflated, ready for Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.

BILL DE BLASIO, MAYOR, NEW YORK CITY: This is a magical atmosphere.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.

CUOMO: Good morning. Welcome to your new day. A special holiday edition of NEW DAY. Happy Thanksgiving.

HILL: And, to you.

CUOMO: Erica Hill here, Alisyn Camerota off.

And what a beautiful day for a parade. We're showing you live pictures, obviously. This is a big deal.

That is Central Park West. They're getting ready with the balloons. There's some new ones this year. We'll take you through that.