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[03:00:00] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: The Russia investigation moves closer to Donald Trump. Sources telling CNN special counsel Robert Mueller wants some face time with the U.S. president.
We are live at the World Economic Forum in Davos, where world leaders and global thinkers are taking up the big issues.
And later, kidnapped and brainwashed by ISIs, this little boy survived his ordeal but he's now haunted by his past.
Hello and welcome to our viewers joining us from all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church. And this is CNN Newsroom.
And we begin with a CNN exclusive. New signs the former Trump campaign aide may be negotiating a deal in the Russia investigation. Rick Gates has added a prominent white collar attorney to his team. He pleaded not guilty in October to money laundering and other charges.
Meanwhile, the Washington Post reports the special counsel is interested in a conversation President Trump had with FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe last year.
The Post reports Mr. Trump asked McCabe who he voted for in 2016, and expressed his frustration that McCabe's wife received hundreds of thousands of dollars in democratic donations when she ran for a state Senate seat in 2015.
We get more now on the Russia probe from CNN's Jim Sciutto.
JIM SCIUTTO, CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT, CNN: the president is on special counsel Robert Mueller's list for questioning. With Mueller planning to interview Mr. Trump in the coming weeks about his decision to fire national security adviser Michael Flynn.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you feel you betrayed your country?
SCIUTTO: And FBI Director James Comey.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth.
SCIUTTO: CNN has learned that Mueller's team already interviewed Comey at the end of last year, according to a source familiar with the matter. Comey was asked about memos that he wrote on his interactions with the president before being fired.
This, according to the New York Times, which first reported on the interview. CNN also learned that Attorney General Jeff Sessions was questioned for several hours last Wednesday.
JEFF SESSIONS, UNITED STATES ATTORNEY GENERAL: It's great to be here.
SCIUTTO: The first Trump cabinet secretary to be interviewed in the Mueller probe, and the 15th current or former Trump administration official. Today, the president said he is not worried about Sessions' meeting with Mueller's team.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm not at all concern.
SCIUTTO: Topics of Sessions' questioning likely included Russian meddling in the election and crucially what Sessions know about the president's decision to fire Comey, a matter that Mueller is investigating for obstruction of justice, according to a source close to sessions.
MICHAEL ZELDIN, LEGAL ANALYST, CNN: I made a list of about eight things that I think if I were Mueller I'd want to speak to Sessions about and obstruction surely is one of them, and perhaps, for most among them. How did it come to pass that Comey was asked for loyalty? How did it come to pass that Comey was fired?
SCIUTTO: New questions are also being raised about the Trump administration's interference with law enforcement. FBI Director Christopher Wray was pressured by the attorney general to make staff changes at the FBI' senior level, according to a source familiar with the conversation.
MARK WARNER, (D) UNITED STATES SENATOR: It's one more example of this administration, the president and through his agents, the attorney general, trying to interfere in the FBI's ability to follow the law and help with the investigation into the Russian interference in our elections and the possible collusion of the Trump administration or Trump campaign.
SCIUTTO: Sessions mentioned the bureau's deputy director Andrew McCabe and its top lawyer James Baker. Though it's not clear Sessions explicitly told Wray to fire or reassign him, Baker was reassigned last year.
Wray threaten to quit if McCabe was remove or reassigned from his post, appearing to follow through on a promise that he made at his confirmation hearing.
PATRICK LEAHY, (D) UNITED STATES SENATOR: If the president ask you to do something unlawful or unethical, what do you say?
CHRISTOPHER WRAY, DIRECTOR, FBI: First, I would try to talk him out of it. And if that failed, I would resign.
SCIUTTO: Still, President Trump told reporters in the Oval Office today that Wray did not threaten to resign.
TRUMP: He didn't at all. He did not. He did not even a little bit. Nope.
SCIUTTO: The president has repeatedly blasted the FBI, tweeting in December, "After years of Comey with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation and more running the FBI, its reputation is tatters. The worst in history. But fear not we will bring it back to greatness."
Some republican lawmakers are focusing new criticism on the FBI for apparently losing a series of text messages between top FBI official who's have come under fire for criticizing then-candidate Donald Trump. Hundreds have already been made public.
[03:05:00] However, the republican chairman of the Senate intelligence committee dismissed the criticism.
RICHARD BURR, (D) UNITED STATES SENATOR: There may be a technical glitch at the bureau. The fact that they have provided, the rest of them certainly doesn't show an intent to try to withhold anything.
SCIUTTO: Jim Sciutto, CNN, Washington.
CHURCH: CNN legal analyst Page Pate joins me now to talk about all of this. So it's great to have you in the studio.
PAGE PATE, LEGAL ANALYST, CNN: Thank you.
CHURCH: So, of course, we have learned that special counsel Robert Mueller intends to question President Trump about his decision to fire both Michael Flynn and James Comey. What sort of questions do you think he's likely to ask Mr. Trump and what does it signal to you?
PATE: Well, I think we're reaching the point in the investigation where Robert Mueller is finally going to have the opportunity to try to address some of the issues relating to the allegations or possible allegations of obstruction of justice. In order to do that, he has to get some answers from the president.
I think primarily he's going to want to know why did you fire Jim Comey and why did you fire Michael Flynn? Did it have anything to do with your desire to stop or interfere with the investigation into Russian collusion? And if so, were you doing that to try to protect somebody? If Mueller can get yes answers to those two questions, I think there is an obstruction of justice case.
CHURCH: Well, if we go back to May last year, we know that President Trump had an interview with NBC's Lester Holt. And in that interview he specifically said, didn't he, that really the Russia probe was at the center of his decision to get rid of James Comey.
PATE: I think it's clear. It's on the record. It's recorded but it's not a statement under oath and it's not a statement to government investigators. The president shouldn't lie to the American people. He shouldn't lie to the media. But he can without legal consequences.
It really gets important and serious when he sits down in an interview with an FBI agent or anyone working for the government in connection with an investigation because if you lie to someone in that capacity, it's a felony offense.
CHURCH: In the end, though, can Mr. Trump say no to being questioned by Robert Mueller?
PATE: Yes. And that's what I think will be really interesting. If the president decides I don't want to talk to him. I don't want to answer any questions. I think we've heard from the sources (AUDIO GAP) that his lawyers are trying to (AUDIO GAP) some ground rules, you know, send us some written questions. We'll review them. We'll get back to you.
They don't want to, I don't think, agree to a face-to-face interview with an investigator in a case like this because the stake are so high. So if the president ultimately decides you don't want to play by my rules, I'm not going to agree to an interview, the question is, then what?
Does Mueller go to the grand jury and get a subpoena requiring the president to appear in front of a grand jury? Can the president fight that? We've never seen this situation occur before. So it's really unprecedented.
CHURCH: So, really, Mr. Trump and his team could put this off for as long as his first term.
PATE: Right. If they object to it, it's going to end up in court and obviously that could take some additional time.
CHURCH: So it's not that we're seeing that the probe that is headed up by Robert Mueller is going in the direction more of obstruction of justice instead of collusion, they're actually running side by side.
PATE: Right. It has been since the beginning. I mean, that's normal. It's understandable to think (AUDIO GAP) today the focus is I want to talk to the (AUDIO GAP). I think those questions will be focused on the obstruction (AUDIO GAP) investigation.
But Mueller has got a big team and he's got a bunch of different experts on that team. People focused on money laundering investigations. People who are focused on ties with Russia. Computer crime investigations are going on within the special counsel's office. So this is still just one part of a much larger puzzle.
CHURCH: What's your gut feeling as a lawyer of how this will turn out? PATE: I think eventually the White House will agree to answer some
questions. I think they'll be part of that interview in a person-to- person sit-down, answer direct questions, but I think most of it will occur in written responses.
I think he's going to want to have time to talk to his lawyers. And at the end of the day, I think we're going to be stuck with the president's word on the issue of obstruction. Because it's going to be very difficult for Mueller to prove that Trump really intended to do something he's now saying he didn't do. So, how well the president is coached and prepared for (AUDIO GAP), I think that will be critically important.
CHURCH: (AUDIO GAP), we always love having you with us. Thanks so much.
PATE: Thank you.
CHURCH: And new CNN polling an overwhelming majority of Americans think President Trump should testify before the special counsel if he's asked. The poll conducted last week shows 78 percent of respondents say the president should answer Mueller's questions, 18 percent say he should not.
The poll also asked if President Trump has tried to interfere with the investigation. Fifty one percent said yes, 41 percent said no, but the partisan divide on that question is stuck.
[03:09:59] Eighty three percent of democrats say Mr. Trump has tried to interfere. Eighty two percent of republicans say he has not.
The second say of the World Economic Forum is getting underway in Davos, Switzerland. Our Becky Anderson is there and joins us now live. So, Becky, (AUDIO GAP).
BECKY ANDERSON, CNN ANCHOR: Well, it's a big day. European leaders will take to the stage at the forum within the next few hours. The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, the French President, Emmanuel Macron, and the Italian Prime Minister will all address the gathering.
Now, the messages are expected to underscore a global approach to economic and social problems. Attention also focused on U.S. President Trump and his America first stance. He addresses this forum on Friday. And demonstrators, well, they are already protesting his appearance before he's even wheels up from Washington.
Let's bring in Nic Robertson. It his position on economic nationalism, as prescribed, as opposed to this sense of globalization, this more multilateral approach to issues that worries some people up here. Not everybody, but some people up here. Certainly the Europeans.
NIC ROBERTSON, INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR, CNN: It does. And this is something that they feel very keenly and this is something that we'll likely hear from German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emanuel Macron. I think everyone is going to come at this with their own particular
message. Let's not forget, Macron also comes to this with climate change, which is -- accord, which is something of a global agenda. Something where it's taken all the leaders on the pretty much to come together on this.
And this is the broader message to President Trump that we need to work on these issues. But when you speak of the economic issue, absolutely, and we've already heard that President Trump's answer of America first, the isolationism which is how the Indian prime minister put it yesterday, doesn't work. That we need to accept this globalization that is coming. That we need to be more agile, that we need to work with the change and come together, you know, to work with it globally.
And Justin Trudeau as well, the Canadian prime minister the same thing. This is it. I mean, the Europeans, yes, but it's others as well.
ANDERSON: It sets a narrative full of ironies, as it were, hearing this approach to globalization, this appeal for more multilateral approach. His appeal for opening borders from the Indian prime minister, a country with a history of protectionism.
And also, you know, there are CEOs here, global CEOs who are tripping over each other to suggest that U.S. tax reform, the unraveling of regulations in the U.S. has all been fantastic news for not just the U.S. economy, and they expect to see more investment into the U.S. which will be music to the president's ears, but good for the global economy as well.
ROBERTSON: It is. And President Trump often speaks about this, about how well the markets in the United States are doing during his presidency. That, you know, that the world essentially misses out on this broader narrative that he is doing good things that will benefit the world.
That it's America first, but, you know, he understands and economists understand that, you know, even America, the fears about trade wars, all of these sorts of things, if America isn't doing well, then it's hard for the rest of the world to go ahead and do well.
So when he brings these reforms, then yes, you can see CEOs having greater confidence in where the United States is going and greater confidence in elements of his leadership.
And, you know, when three quarters of the world's countries' GDPs are improving, then this is a positive image, but you will have other economist who are saying it's still a fragile global economic environment.
But, yes, this is something I think we can expect President Trump to be basking in, as you say, and trying to -- and trying to draw attention to that than some of the other things, which are frankly, above criticism. ANDERSON: With the Europeans on the stage today it will be Donald
Trump at the back end of what is this World Economic Forum in Davos. Nic, always a pleasure. Thank you for that. Much more to come from Davos.
Ahead, I'll talk with the United Nations high commissioner for human rights. He won't seek a second term. I'm going to find out why and ask him what he plans to do instead.
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CHURCH: Breaking news now. On a suicide blast in Jalalabad, Afghanistan outside the office of the humanitarian group Save the Children. At least 11 people have been injured in that attack.
Journalist Zakaria Hassani joins us now from Kabul. Zakaria, what is the latest information that you have on this attack and is it still ongoing.
ZAKARIA HASSANI, JOURNALIST: Well, the latest (Inaudible) the conflict or the clash is going on three hours passed since the first one is that three or reportedly four attacks have conducted the attack on the Save the Children office in Jalalabad in the eastern province of Afghanistan.
So now 12 wounded confirmed and also one suicide bomber killed in this terrorist attack. Two or three others are still fighting with the security forces. Also, the local officials told me that now the Afghan officials told me that are in charge of the operation, the clearance operation, there is a demolition situation at the area right now and the first minutes of the attack I saw children in pictures shared on social media that were fleeing the area panicked.
So the clash is still going on and yet there isn't more any exact details about the exact number of casualties.
CHURCH: All right. Zakaria Hassani keeping an eye on the situation there. That breaking news on a suicide blast in Jalalabad, Afghanistan. We'll continue to follow it.
ANDERSON: We are in Davos, and if you are just joining us, you are very welcome as well, and business leaders gather here. U.N. experts have a message for them, pay more attention to human rights. They say the leaders should use Davos, for example, to announce specific actions they will take to make people's lives better.
That includes respecting the rights of workers and addressing climate change, global unrest and rising economic inequality.
My next guest, well, he is an outspoken campaigner for human rights. Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein, he is the United Nations high commissioner for human rights. You have, sir, and thank you for joining us, announced that you will not be seeking a second term.
And I want to read for our viewers' sake just part of your resignation letter. You wrote and I quote. "After reflection I have decided not to seek a second four-year term. To do so in the current geopolitical context might involve bending a knee in supplication, muting a statement of advocacy, lessening the independence and integrity of my voice - which is your voice," you said. That sounds like a pretty gloomy position to be in, sir. Why?
ZEID RA'AD AL-HUSSEIN, HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, UNITED NATIONS: Well, it's obvious to me that if I did seek a second term, it would require a compromise. The major powers would probably make demands of me not to opine on certain issues, and, quite frankly, in my position with the office that I have, this is not acceptable. Given the suffering that we see around the world.
[03:20:05] ANDERSON: If you can't champion human rights, and the U.N. is failing to do so, who, sir?
AL-HUSSEIN: Well, you have people around the world, the most courageous human rights defenders, willing to risk everything, forfeit everything for the sake of their rights. And I think what's important about Davos is that much of the messaging here is meaningless to them if they are marginalized systematically by their governments.
And to change that, we need to talk about rights here in a location like Davos. I only wish it was the world economic and human rights forum as opposed to just the World Economic Forum.
ANDERSON: Does it worry you that by being here you lend the veneer of respectability to many of those who, quite frankly, I think what you're telling me is, aren't listening to what you're saying.
AL-HUSSEIN: Well, it's an ongoing battle. When you look at the 70th anniversary as we're doing now of the universal declaration of human rights, you appreciate that every advance gained was at great sacrifice to those who were prepared to speak out and take the battle and move the progress of humanity forward.
And so we understand that one has to engage but it is also not easy to always persuade, sometimes we do need to hold up a mirror and be quite terse in our statements, yes.
ANDERSON: Well, as you wind down your role, what worries you most?
AL-HUSSEIN: What worries me most is we see the centrifugal forces tearing away at the international system. And it's all good looking at the global world sort of, economy expanding in certain parts, but the geopolitical forces that aren't being discussed here driven by populism, of course, demagoguery, deception, lies, also wielding instruments that we thought were disposed of after the Second World War, this is all frightful. And all of this can, of course, come crashing down and quite quickly.
ANDERSON: Is Donald Trump frightful?
AL-HUSSEIN: Well, we have concentrated on the things that he has said or done which have impact on human rights not just in the United States but worldwide. And, yes, the other day we said that if the statements that he made in those consultations in the White House were true, that this amounted to racism.
And it opens the door for others to say the same thing and say it openly without fear of reaction. Well, they will, of course, experience reaction if we have anything to say about it, and it's not just confined to Donald Trump.
And we look at European leaders and sometimes I really wonder, as a friend of mine said in the office, is it an immigration crisis that we're speaking of or is it not more a racism crisis in the minds of at least some of the major politicians?
ANDERSON: What do you think it is?
AL-HUSSEIN: I think there is something to it. There is something to it. And we need to, of course, uncover this and have a wide-eyed look at this. And to prey upon people's prejudices for the sake of political gain at the cost of the rights of the most marginalized is rather despicable.
ANDERSON: I have heard what you've said and understand what you are exercised by. I know you've also, and this is a big discussion here, been very interested in and concerned about artificial intelligence. Just explain how that fits in to where you are at this point.
AL-HUSSEIN: Well, as we surrender more and more of our lives to algorithms, the algorithms cannot just be constructed for the sake of profit-making or developing markets. The algorithms must also be sensitive to issues concerning rights that the states have obligations.
There is a right to work. There is a right to enjoy health. There is a right to water. There are rights issues that need to be imbedded into these algorithms and you need programmers who are aware of the human rights components.
And so they have to become, they have to change as we move towards super algorithms which begin to dominate our lives.
ANDERSON: Is there momentum for this?
AL-HUSSEIN: I think so. As it begin to dominate our lives there needs to be human, greater human supervision and those humans must be aware of what the rights dimension is.
ANDERSON: So A.I. could be a real concern for people's rights, human rights going forward.
[03:24:56] AL-HUSSEIN: Absolutely. Absolutely. As you move more and more towards block chains and disbursed platform or disbursed series of platforms, certainly, yes. ANDERSON: Sir, I really appreciate your honesty.
AL-HUSSEIN: Thank you.
ANDERSON: We are delighted you joined us this morning. What are you going to do next?
AL-HUSSEIN: I'm coming to work for CNN.
ANDERSON: We'd be delighted to have you. Thank you very much.
AL-HUSSEIN: Thank you so much.
ANDERSON: We'll have much more from Davos later this hour. Artisan, businessman, philanthropist and futurist, yes, I said futurist will.i.am will join me and so will the UAE's minister for artificial intelligence, Omar bin Sultan Al Olama will talk about the rise of artificial intelligence and what it means from their perspective for humans.
For the time being, though, back to Rosemary at CNN center.
CHURCH: Thanks so much, Becky. I appreciate that.
Well, back in the United States, two 15-year-old students, a boy and a girl, were killed in the latest school shooting here. At least 14 other people suffered gunshot wounds. Police say the shooter was another 15-year-old student who opened fire in a high school in Kentucky before classes started.
He was arrested at the scene and officials are planning to charge him with murder and attempted murder. He may be prosecuted as an adult.
This is the second U.S. school shooting in two days. The White House says President Trump expressed his appreciation to the deputy who caught the suspect.
We'll take a short break here. But still to come, police in Pakistan arrest a suspected serial killer accused of murdering young girls, including a 7-year-old whose death led to widespread protests. And a young Yazidi boy kidnapped by ISIS after years apart he is now back with his family. Why he says he wants to grow up to be an American man. That's next.
CHURCH: Welcome back to CNN Newsroom. I'm Rosemary Church. I want to update you now on the main stories we've been following this hour.
U.S. President Donald Trump says he's not at all concerned about what his attorney general may have told Justice Department investigators.
Jeff Sessions met last week with special counsel Robert Mueller's team. Sources tell CNN Mueller wants to question Mr. Trump as part of the probe. And the U.S. president and the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan
are expected to talk by phone on Wednesday about Turkey's military offensive in northern Syria. Turkish forces are battling the U.S.- backed Kurdish militia.
The White House says the conversation will focus on de-escalation, but U.S. officials add Turkey does have legitimate security concerns.
[03:30:03] At least 11 people are injured after a suicide bombing in Afghanistan. It happened outside the Save the Children office in Jalalabad. The humanitarian group says gunmen also entered the building. No one has claimed responsibility for that attack.
An 8-year-old Yazidi boy says he wants to be an American man when he grows up. He was just 4 years old when ISIS captured him, an ISIS fighter and his American wife took him into their home a raised him. Now he is back home in Iraq with his family, but as Arwa Damon reports, he is struggling to deal with his past and his present.
ARWA DAMON, SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: In another lifetime, this would have been a moment of pure and simple as it looks. Two brothers playing together, looking out for each other. But I have barely remembers his real family. This propaganda video shows how he spent most of his childhood, raised in the so-called caliphate by an American ISIS woman and her jihadi Moroccan husband.
Were they nice to you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
DAMON: Did you love them?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
DAMON: But they were also the ones holding him captive. Ayhem was kidnapped when he was just 4 years old, separated from his real family, sold and traded until he ended up in Raqqa.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are really good to me.
DAMON: Um Yousef?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
DAMON: Do you know him?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Um Yousef is his real name.
DAMON: His ISIS family took everything from him. His childhood, his identity as a Yazidi, but most of all, his innocence.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They said you have to kill every -- you have to kill every Yazidi.
DAMON: Do you feel like you want to kill all the Yazidis?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no, no.
DAMON: I have learned English quickly and became best friends with Sam's oldest son Yusef.
Who is this?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's Yusef.
DAMON: Forced to let the boys make the propaganda video.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They pulled the gun on her head.
DAMON: Ayhem's story of Sam portrayed a woman conflicted caught between her indoctrination and her humanity.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't forget your family.
DAMON: She regularly had Ayhem recite his real family's names so he would be able to find his way back home one day, and that day came a couple of months ago as the caliphate crumbled, the ISIS family tried to make their escape, but they were caught.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They said you have to go to your family.
DAMON: Sam and her children are believed to be detained by Syrian Kurdish forces. Ayhem returned to a broken family. His uncle who was looking after him takes him to see a counselor twice a week. Ayhem's mother is still missing. She, too, was kidnapped by ISIS and no one has heard from her in years. His father remarried and move on. Ayhem is rejecting his native language, Kurdish, and struggles to communicate with his family. The counselor is trying to through the song that teaches colors and numbers help him accept his origins again. Ayhem knows he is with his real family, but misses Sam and Yusef, the only family he really knows. He is confused, but in his mind, he is certain of one thing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My name is Ayhem. I want to get out from here.
DAMON: Arwa Damon, CNN, Iraq.
CHURCH: On Wednesday, former doctor who admitted to sexually abusing young girls will receive his sentence. For six days in a crowded courtroom, Larry Nassar's victims have shared their painful experiences. They were all young Gymnasts in training when Nassar molested them. One young woman admitted her statement anonymously but then came to court to confront Nassar directly.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Although you have hurt me, I want to forgive you and feel closure and move on to healing in my life. I want you to apologize to me right here. I want to forgive you, but I also want to hear you tell me that you regret all the hurt that you've caused.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sorry.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CHURCH: Larry Nassar could face 40 to 125 years in prison after pleading guilty to seven counts of criminal sexual conduct. He is already serving a 60-year sentence for federal child pornography charges.
Pakistani police say they have arrested a serial killer who raped and then murdered young girls, including 7-year-old Zainab Ansari earlier this month. She was the latest victim in Kasur where the killings have led to widespread anger. Details now from CNN's Alexandra Field.
[03:35:13] ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is Kasur. A place in eastern Pakistan where girls disappeared for two years and no one got answers. Zainab Ansari lived here. When we arrived, it's only a few days since her body turned up on a pile of trash, mud caked on her face, strangled.
Police say the killer raped the 7-year-old. She is last seen alive in this video. At home, there is a backpack, a pink jacket. The words on the little girl's notebook to remember her by.
Her father told us he has no words to explain what happened to Zainab, his innocent little girl. Then he blames police for her death.
Zainab is the latest victim in the string of murders of little girls in Kasur since 2016. Her case grips the nation. Outrage here reaches a tipping point and demonstrations against police and authorities turn deadly. It is only after her death that officials publicly admit there is a serial killer on the loose. DNA linked between the cases confirm it. Another victim, 8-year-old Saline was killed on her way to Koran class.
What happened to your daughter after she walked out this door?
That was last summer, the last time her mother saw her alive. She was raped, murdered and dumped.
Do you believe the police were looking for her killer all of his time?
Officials deny her allegations. There is no consoling her mother.
Angry takes hold in Kasur for weeks after Zainab's death, they live in fear. Parents don't want to let their girls go outside.
Public pressure mounts and authorities insist they're making every effort on every level to find the killer.
Do you believe the same amount of effort was me after each of these murders?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. To be honest it wasn't the case. After Zainab's case, a lot of more effort has been done now.
FIELD: Nearly three weeks after Zainab disappears, police announce they have their killer in hand, Imran, a 24-year-old from Kasur. Authorities say his DNA is a match. Officials promised there will be justice finally for all the families. To this father, that isn't enough.
His 6 year-old daughter survived an attempted murder. Police say at the hands of the serial killer. Her brain injuries from the attack are so severe she can't recognize her parents.
He says with no warning in Kasur of a serial killer on the loose, parents had no chance to protect their children. Alexandra Field, CNN, Kasur, Pakistan.
CHURCH: And we'll be back in just a moment.
BECKY ANDERSON, CONNECT THE WORLD, CNN: Well, welcome back to what is surely the most spectacular gathering of wealth and power anywhere on our planet. Right here in Davos, where we are based quite literally and proverbially on the mountaintop. A great place you'll know to look to the future. It's all about humans. That is us, of course, talking about these robots, their rise and how smart there getting. Even kind of cute like this, or more how do you say inclined to resist?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
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ANDERSON: Who better to break down the future of artificial intelligence than a global superstar and a government minister from the gulf? Yep, you heard me. With me right now, artist business man, philanthropist and futurist Will.I.Am and the minister of A.I. first minister of A.I. anywhere in the world, Omar bin Sultan Al Olama. From where I left myself back in the UAE. Why does a country need a minister of artificial intelligence?
OMAR BIN SULTAN AL OLAMA, FIRST MINISTER, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE: I think that is a great question. I think artificial intelligence right now is at the beginning of the going -- many aspects are very negative as well. We also see the endless possibility. E governments more efficient. We want to be at the forefront of that technology and as a government be ready for it. We don't want to be reactive, we want to be proactive. My goal is to make the government framework for the policy and work with the best leaders around the word to make sure that governments do not hinder the progress for artificial intelligence and actually had progress. ANDERSON: There may be some people watching who say I know who you
are. I didn't know you had any interest in artificial intelligence. Tell us how you do.
WILL.I.AM, AMERICAN MUSICIAN: So, I was blessed to be a part of beat at the early stages and I took my earnings and went around the world and acquired companies, put teams together. We built a voice operating system that is A.I. Contextual, conversational. It's not path driven or a voice remote control here you say turn on the lights. It's more of a conversation of its dark in here and the way we're talking. It's being used by deutsche telecom in Austria for customer service.
ANDERSON: Is that the source of developmental idea that you as a minister get excited by?
AL OLAMA: And I think that there is a lot more where this comes from. We can see, for example, if you look at government spending right now, most government spending has gone up -- 20 percent are investment for the future. Governments need to be run more efficiently and artificial intelligence can help to do that. We can see a lot more applications. Imagine traffic, for example, curbing crime. And in every single way of governments worked we can see artificial intelligence having a big impact.
ANDERSON: Is it always a force for good?
AL OLAMA: It can have negative impacts? There is nothing on the earth that is pure good. The internet, there is good that comes out of it and there is bad, the dark web we don't not have the discussion, we leave, it will rogue like it is now, it will have bad impacts. We want to make sure that we do not rest.
[03:45:11] ANDERSON: This is a conversation which is out there. I have to say, viewers, if there one buzz word apart from America first and that plays in to Donald Trump getting here on Friday, it is artificial intelligence. There is a lot of uncertainty at play and that makes people anxious. I want to roll some tape of the Canadian Prime Minister speaking just yesterday here in Davos.
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JUSTIN TRUDEAU, CANADA, PRIME MINISTER: You're rightly anxious about how quickly our existing business models are being disrupted. So if your anxious imagine how the folks who aren't in this room are feeling.
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ANDERSON: And that is you folks, today, with progress comes disruption, with disruption, of course, comes change, with change comes fear. We are essentially talking about, you know, a new era in industrial evolution. The likes of which we haven't seen in 200 years. Are we ready for this as a society?
WILL.I.AM: I am an optimist and I believe in humanity and he' been through this before. 1800s when it switches to farming with horse and buggy. We brought tractors. There was a lot of fear there. When it came to electricity being the house, we were afraid of electricity. Just look how it is brightened up our world and connected us. People were afraid of the internet. I'm not saying we use mobile phones the way we should use them, we could use them a lot better, but I'm optimistic about what A.I.'s going to bring. The thing I'm concerned with is how the investment for artificial intelligence compare to the investments of human intelligence. Governments of the world are not educating the youth to be able to, you know, address this growing industry so that they world's problems alongside this tool. But I'm not fearful of where it's going to go. I encourage folks that are not part of the conversation to dream, because they're the ones that are going to bring the jobs of tomorrow.
ANDERSON: Perhaps something your government thought about and gave you the job to manage going forward. The British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking is generally, pretty much the smartest guy on the planet, right? We agree on that. He is been warning, quote, the development of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race, have a listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now, the human worker does, you now, 50,000 worth of work in a factory. That income is taxed. If the robot comes in to do the same thing, you'd think that we'd tax the robot at similar level.
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ANDERSON: Well that was Bill Gates. You saw some words from Stephen Hawkins you must get these counterarguments all the time. What is yours?
AL OLAMA: I would just say I disagree. Every single concern is valid. Let's look at unemployment. The argument of artificial intelligence causing unemployment. If you look at unemployment from the 1800s to 2005, it's always been 5 percent. We are a species of adaptive we are agile. We change to make sure that we look at the collective good. I do think there is artificial general intelligence has some concerns when you look at it, but if we look at the technology in a sense, I think it can create lots of good as well. Now, again, I think governments need to be sitting down at the table right now and say what can we do to make sure we govern this? To tax, for example, some income aspect of it. There is a possibility there.
ANDERSON: How does small country like the UAE ensure that it is at the cutting edge of a development like this?
AL OLAMA: So, every single discussion we've seen so far, everything that government has seen -- this is what we should do. No one actually want to do something on the ground. We are the first government who has done that. The second thing is with regards to policies, there are n polices in A.I. today, anywhere on earth. Even the most develop country don have policies. We're looking at actually putting policies in place to ensure that other countries can follow the lead and other countries to work with us. We can't do this on our own. We understand it. But we can at least put our money where it must.
ANDERSON: You talked to us about what you're doing at present. What's next? What are you most excited about when we talk about artificial intelligence?
WILL.I.AM: Two-fold. One, deploying it to customers. Two, educating the youth in inner cities in poverty-stricken areas so they can be the dreamers with this tool in the future.
[03:50:13] I truly believe that the jobs we can imagine the jobs are going to come tomorrow and they're going to come from the folks that are not a part of the job creation today. They're going to be, you know, folks that are solving problems for needs, not wants.
ANDERSON: And to those who say this is too much too quickly, you say what?
WILL.I.AM: Too much too quickly, that means you weren't paying attention this whole time. It's right on time.
AL OLAMA: I agree. And the thing is, if you ask someone, for example, 20 years ago when social media influences, they would think you are out of your mind. If you asked someone 70 years ago you could skype with them from half way across the world and seem in a half second, they would think you are out of your mind. The jobs that could be created. Another example, what we're doing in the UAE, we're teaching 1 million people how to code. We're going to take 10,000 of those and teach them how to code artificial intelligence. The potential there will change the government and change the future.
ANDERSON: Fascinating to both of you. Thank you very much, indeed, for joining us. I know it's cold. How brave are these guys? I'm wrapped up in my coat and these guys are just like, we can do this. Thank you both very much, indeed for joining us here in Davos. Later, my colleague Richard Quest, will talk to the President of Zimbabwe and Ukraine a well as the CEO Coca-Cola and former white house communications Director, the mooch. Anthony Scaramucci here on the deck at the CNN live shot in Davos. An awful lot going on. We will be back in a moment with more news for you folks from Atlanta with Rosemary Church.
CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. Well, the 90th academy award nominations are in and the season's contenders include several standouts and first CNN's Rick Damigella tells us who is making Oscar history.
RICK DAMIGELLA, CNN NEWSSOURCE: An unconventional love story leads the 90th academy award nomination. "The shape of water" garnered 13 including best Picture, best Director and best actor for the leading role for Sally Hawkins as a mute woman who falls in love with a mysterious aquatic creature. While 13 nominations isn't a record, two actors had nominations for the ages.
At 22 years of age, "Call me by your name" star is the youngest best actor nominee since Mickey Rooney back in 1944.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have never been more vulnerable financially than I am right now.
DAMIGELLA: On the opposite end the age spectrum, 88-year-old Christopher Plumber is now the oldest acting nominee in Oscar history, he is up for best supporting actor as for his performance in "All the money in the world." Jordan Peel becomes the first black Director to receive three nominations for a feature, picture, Director and original screen play for "Get out." Peel is just the fifth person of color to be nominated in the Director category.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is that your given name?
[03:55:03] DAMIGELLA: A trio of women achieved Oscar nod firsts. For lady bird, made her the first female Director nominated for her feature debut. And "Two milestones for mud bound" Rachel Morrison becomes the first woman in the academy's history to be nominated in the cinematography category and Mary J. Blige is the first person nominated for an acting performance and original song in the same year.
Any more Oscar firsts in store? We will find out when the 90th academy awards are handed out on March 4th. In Hollywood, I am Rick Damigella.
CHURCH: Great movies there.
And finally this hour, camels caught cheating in a beauty pageant. Yes, you heard it right. 12 camels were recently disqualified from a camel beauty pageant in Saudi Arabia because the handlers used Botox to make the camels more attractive. This competition is serious business in the kingdom with $57 million in prize money up for grabs. Thanks so much for your company on this hour. I'm Rosemary Church. Remember connect with me any time on twitter. Love to hear from you. The news continues now with Max Foster in London. You are watching CNN. Have a great day.