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WH: Special Place In Hell For Canadian Prime Minister; WH Adviser: Allies Should've Shown Trump Support; Can Kim Jong-Un Promise Be Trusted; Trump: I'll Know Kim's Intentions In Less Than A Minute; Remembering The Life And Legacy Of A Culinary Legend; North Korea Says It Will Discuss Denuclearization And Durable Peace; Pizza Delivery Guy Granted Stay On Deportation; Apple's CEO Talks Phone Addiction, Privacy And More. Aired 5-6p ET

Aired June 10, 2018 - 17:00   ET


[17:00:00] ANA CABRERA, CNN ANCHOR: You're on the CNN Newsroom, I'm Ana Cabrera in New York. President Trump is on the world stage about to become the first sitting U.S. President to shake hands with North Korean Dictator Kim Jong-un.

And right now we have no way to predict what will happen because there's absolutely no precedent for what we have just witnessed over the last 24 hours. The economic world order being offended. What we're about to watch is two top White House advisers talking about Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau this morning.


LARRY KUDLOW, CHIEF ECONOMIC ADVISER TO PRESIDENT TRUMP: He really kind of stabbed us in the back. He really actually -- you know what, he did a great disservice to the whole G7. He betrayed...


KUDLOW: Yes, he did, because they were united in the G7. They came together.

PETER NAVARRO, WHITE HOUSE TRADE ADVISER: There is a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with President Donald J. Trump, and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door. And that's what bad faith Justin Trudeau did with that stunt press conference. That's what weak dishonest Justin Trudeau did. And that comes right from Air Force One.


CABRERA: You're probably wondering how we got here. Let's start from the beginning -- yesterday. What you're about to see is President Trump shortly before he left the G7 summit, denying reports that his relationship with U.S. allies is anything less than perfect.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The relationship that I've had with the people -- the leaders of these countries has been -- I would rate it on the scale of zero to 10, I would rate it a 10.


CABRERA: Minutes later, Trump hopped on his plane and headed to Singapore, and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau came out, and said this about retaliatory tariffs.


JUSTIN TRUDEAU, CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER: I have made it very clear to the President that it is not something we relish doing, but it is something that we absolutely will do, because Canadians, we're polite, we're reasonable, but we also will not be pushed around.


CABRERA: And again, the President who just earlier said this.


TRUMP: On a scale of zero to 10, I would rate it 10.


CABRERA: Began furiously tweeting from Air Force One. Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada acted meek and mild during our G7 meetings only to give a news conference after I left saying that U.S. tariffs were kind of insulting, and he will not be pushed around. Very dishonest and weak. Our tariffs are in response to his of 270 percent on dairy.

So in retrospect, this picture of negotiations seems to have been a lot more telling about the state of the United States relationship with allies than the President originally let on. The President who, again, has advisers reinforcing his attacks on Canada.


NAVARRO: There's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with President Donald J. Trump, and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door.


CABRERA: Again, these unprecedented attacks on a U.S. ally are happening on the eve of a historic meeting that could be the difference between nuclear war and peace. Right now, President Trump and Kim Jong-un are both in Singapore, putting the two leaders who just a few months ago were calling each other little rocket man and dotard only a couple blocks apart as we speak.

Take a look, these are their hotels, just half mile from each other. CNN's Senior White House Correspondent Jeff Zeleny is live in Singapore for us. Jeff, it is hard to overstate the chaos that is playing out on the eve of this meeting. What impact could it have?

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Ana, there is no question. That frames the President's thinking, it frames the President's his mind-set going into this historic summit. Now it is the -- he's going into that meeting the first time a U.S. President has sat down with the leader from that regime at odds with his allies in an extraordinary way.

What we don't know is how much of this is the theatrics going into this. We do know that he has, you know, substantial differences with a lot of U.S. allies. Of course, all of those work for us at the G7 summit in Canada.

He was blowing off steam without question asked, he was flying here on Air Force One for that long flight. But take a listen to his Chief Economic Adviser Larry Kudlow essentially lecturing the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.


KUDLOW: POTUS is not going to let a Canadian Prime Minister push him around, push him POTUS around, President Trump, on the eve of this. He is not going to permit any show of weakness on the trip to negotiate with North Korea nor should he.

TAPPER: So this was about North Korea?

KUDLOW: Of course it was in large part.


ZELENY: So this could be viewed as strategy, perhaps, going into a meeting with Kim Jong-un showing that the President, you know, is willing to be very hard on his allies, which of course would mean that he's also willing to be hard on Kim Jong-un if they reach a point of diplomacy.

[17:05:09] That of course is a long way away. But look at the statements from other world leaders as well, clearly shaken by the President's actions over the weekend. Look at the statement from Emmanuel Macron of France. He said this. International cooperation, he said, cannot be dictated by fits of anger and throwaway remarks.

And then German Chancellor Angela Merkel also went on to say this, she said the withdrawal, so to speak, via tweet is, of course, sobering and a depressing. So that is the state of the world vis-a-vis the U.S. President here as he's going into that historic meeting with Kim Jong-un. We've seen him blow off steam before, we've seen him get angry before.

But at this point it's unclear how much is actually rhetoric designed to set the table for that conversation here on Tuesday morning, or how much simply is just sort of a fit of anger. But, Ana, there's no question the White House is trying to get the President focused on what is the matter at hand.

And that matter, of course, is North Korea. The body language, the personal relationship, and the question above all, will Kim Jong-un agree to abandon his nuclear program. That will determine success of this. So the G7 is a bit behind us for now. But we'll see how much it's still in the President's mind-set. Ana.

CABRERA: And this historic summit now just a little more than 24 hours away. Thank you very much Jeff Zeleny in Singapore. I want to get the reaction now from a member of Congress, Democrat Eric Swalwell of California is joining us live from Los Angeles. Congressman, what is your reaction to what we're hearing from the U.S. administration this morning?

CONG. ERIC SWALWELL (D), CALIFORNIA: It's embarrassing, Ana. It frankly is embarrassing that America would distance ourselves from traditional allies like the Canadians, and the French, and the Brits, and draw themselves even closer to traditional adversaries like Russia.

And it looked like Donald Trump went to that G7 summit to do Russia's bidding, complaining before he even got there that Russia was not included. Well, they weren't included, Ana, because of what they did invading Crimea -- invading Ukraine, going into Crimea, and then annexing it.

And they have paid no repercussion for it. And we have not confronted them with the Trump administration. So it was frankly embarrassing.

CABRERA: I want to ask you more about the Russia comments in a moment. But first, going back to what Kudlow said this morning, calling Trudeau's remarks a betrayal to the U.S., a stab in the back to America. That is how you see it?

SWALWELL: No, not at all. You know, first, this President doesn't understand what a trade deficit is. We have a trade surplus when you include goods and services with Canada. And so it looks like he's just trying to browbeat Justin Trudeau, so that he can, you know, continue to show the world that he's the bully who he is.

But, you know, we should have gone there remembering that America's strength is America's friends. And our friends, if the world were a playground, we've always been friends with the honor role students. And now this President would have us hang out with detention crew.

CABRERA: Do you think Trudeau was out of line in any way with his comments?

SWALWELL: No. I think Justin Trudeau sincerely sought to have every country there sign off on an agreement, so did President Macron, and President Trump wouldn't join them. And that again is frankly, it's disturbing because these are traditional allies of ours.

And I think they are scratching their head wondering why the President started the conference by suggesting that Russia should be included. The President went there representing not the United States of America, but he represented a very, very ego centric man in Donald Trump.

CABRERA: Here is what else Larry Kudlow said.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) KUDLOW: They should have said to him, Godspeed. You're negotiating with this crazy nuclear tyrant in North Korea, and we are behind you.


CABRERA: Do you think America's allies in some way weakened President Trump's hand going into negotiations with Kim Jong-un?

SWALWELL: Ana, I think President Trump missed an opportunity to sign an accord at the G7, putting all of us on the same page about the strategic threats we have in the world, and then he could have gone off to Singapore with, you know, momentum. Instead, now I think he goes to Singapore weakened.

And the best way for us to enforce what we're going to need to enforce and verify against North Korea is having allies in Great Britain, and France, and Canada. Now we go there weakened, and North Korea, I think, will look at us as not necessarily having the strength that we've had in prior negotiations.

CABRERA: President Trump fighting back as we heard Kudlow also point out in Jeff Zeleny's hit. He said it could be a sign of strategy, that the President wants to look strong. He's not afraid to -- he's not going to back down to anybody, even America's allies. Could you see that being strategically beneficial?

[17:10:04] SWALWELL: No. I don't see it beneficial to alienate traditional allies. We saw this last year also with Australia. You know, the people that have fought, and you know, the longest conflicts our country has ever been in, who have shed blood alongside our soldiers are the ones that we should continue to stand within.

If we have trade issues, you know, we should resolve them in a dignified, firm way, but not in a way where you leave town while you are at 35,000 feet tweeting insults at a neighbor to the north who we're going to need in struggles ahead.

CABRERA: You alluded to what the President also said yesterday about Russia. Let me play it for us.


TRUMP: I think it would be an asset to have Russia back in. I think it would be good for the world. I think it would be good for Russia. I think it would be good for the United States.


CABRERA: You clearly don't agree. Why do you think the President even brought this up? Because remember, that was at the same press conference where he said his relationship with allies of the G7 were a 10.

SWALWELL: He brought it up, Ana, because he has shown himself to like Russia. And we get nothing in return. We don't get any concessions from Russia on what they are doing in Syria. We don't get any backing off of what they are doing in Ukraine.

We don't get them to reduce the role that they are playing in Afghanistan, and a lot of the concerns that they are supporting the Taliban who were killing American soldiers. We get nothing out of this. And by the way, they attacked our democracy last election, and are seeking to do it again.

He likes Russia because Russia likes them -- because Russia likes him, but we're not getting anything out of it. You know, Russia didn't need to be at the G7, Ana, they had a representative there in Donald Trump. And I think that got us off on the wrong foot with, again, our traditional allies.

CABRERA: Quickly before I let you go, what do you think would make this meeting between President Trump and Kim Jong-un a success?

SWALWELL: Well, I think, walking away from the meeting, having, you know, some agreed upon objectives that we will meet again. You know, I don't think they need to solve all the problems right away.

But this has to be more than just a date without, you know, any repercussions. The President has to prepare, express our strategic objectives of denuclearization, and set another meeting so that we can start to verify where North Korea is living up to what they're going to hopefully agree to.

CABRERA: Eric Swalwell, good to have you with us, thank you very much.

SWALWELL: Thanks, Ana.

CABRERA: Still ahead, trust but verify in a new era. If President Trump strikes a deal with Kim Jong-un, how exactly do you make sure the leader of the notoriously secret regime actually follows through? Well, it's complicated. You're live in the CNN Newsroom. We will give you a live look at Singapore little more than 24 hours until this historic face-to-face.


CABRERA: President Trump said this weekend he just needs a few seconds with Kim Jong-un to know if the North Korean leader is serious about making peace. The words he used, it's my touch, my feel. That's what I do.

But after the pleasantries on Tuesday, officials are concerned about how much to trust any promises ordeals made by the North Korean leader. Kim has a well documented history of going back on his word. CNN Pentagon Correspondent Barbara Starr is joining us now. Barbara, promising to get rid of a nuclear arsenal is one thing, actually doing it is another.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: It is indeed. And everybody might pay attention to what Defense Secretary James Mattis has to say. He is already predicting that the negotiations with North Korea could be in his words a bumpy road. North Korea has a tendency still much of the time to go its own way.


STARR: Cameras captured the moment North Korea said it blew up underground nuclear test tunnels. Satellite imagery shows another test site appearing to be dismantled. Was this the beginning of Kim getting rid of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles that could hit the U.S., or was it all for show? President Trump demanding denuclearization.

TRUMP: It means they get rid of their nukes. Very simple. They get rid of their nukes. And nobody else would say it.

STARR: Dismantling ballistic missiles is one thing, but there's no guarantee Kim Jong-un will tell Donald Trump his nuclear secrets including covert sites buried deep in mountains.

TONY BLINKEN, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: What's even more important is this vast complex that they have in place spread throughout the country that's able, by current estimates, to produce enough material for six to seven nuclear weapons every year. Getting a grip on that, the entire supply chain that feeds that complex.

RONALD REAGAN, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Mr. General Secretary, though my pronunciation may give you difficulty, the maxim is Dovyai no Provyai, Trust but Verify.

STARR: Thirty years after Ronal Reagan and the Soviets, it's still complicated. Just one example, Kim's nuclear warheads may be so unstable they can't be moved.

DAVID ALBRIGHT, INSTITUTE FOR SCIENCE AND INTERNATIONAL SECURITY: We don't know safety margins that North Korea uses. I mean, nuclear weapons involve a lot of high explosives, at least the ones North Koreans are building. And I'm not sure I would want to see that put on an American ship or plane.

STARR: But if there was an agreement, first, North Korea would have to declare both known and secret locations, and it's inventories of ballistic missiles, nuclear warheads, and plutonium, and uranium. Weapons and equipment would have to be disabled, or destroyed. Experts envision international inspectors on the ground plus U.S. satellites and aircraft overhead keeping secret watch. Those international nuclear inspectors already are getting ready.

YUKIYA AMANO, IAEA DIRECTOR GENERAL: We will be ready to act promptly and play an essential role in verifying North Korea's nuclear program if a political agreement is reached.


[17:20:09] STARR: Now political agreements have been reached in the past. And North Korea of course has reneged in the end. What will be different this time, right now it's pretty hard to see, because of course, at the he said of the day, even if they declared all their secret facilities, and said they were giving everything up, they still have their scientists and engineers. Ana.

CABRERA: You know we care about knowledge. Thank you, Barbara Starr reporting at the Pentagon. I want to talk now to a former CIA analyst on all things Korea, Sue Mi Terry, and also with us, CNN Presidential Historian Douglas Brinkley. So, guys, I mentioned earlier the President's words about how he plans to feel out the North Korean leader. Listen to this.


TRUMP: I think within the first minute I'll know.


TRUMP: Just my touch, my feel, that's what -- that's what I do.


CABRERA: Sue Mi, that's what he does. What do you think about that approach? What does it tell you?

SUE MI TERRY, CENTER FOR STRATEGIC AND INTERNATIONAL STUDIES: Well, I hope there's more than that. I hope he goes into this meeting prepared because Kim Jong-un has been preparing for this for his whole lives. North Koreans have been preparing for this for half a century.

And a lot of people Kim Jong-un is bringing to the table, like Kim Yong-chol, he's been part of the negotiations since early 1990s. These guys are solely focused on the United States, have been prepared, and they have been preparing, so I hope he goes a little bit more than just feeling, you know, first minute or minute whatever.

CABRERA: Do you think that having chemistry of sorts could be beneficial?

TERRY: Sure. And I do believe there might be chemistry between Kim Jong-un and President Trump because when you look at Kim Jong-un's behavior with his -- in his meetings with President -- Chinese President Xi Jinping, and South Korean President Moon Jae-in, he's very gregarious, he's very different from his father, and his father was a strange guy, a little but introverted.

But this guy is you know, jovial, he is touchy, feely. So he could actually get along with President Trump. And they could create good chemistry. And let's see what happens.

CABRERA: And the President prides himself of course of because a greatest deal maker. He said earlier this week it was all about attitude. Will his experience as a businessman perhaps suit him well in this setting?

DOUGLAS BRINKLEY, CNN PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: Well, we'll have to wait and see how this plays out. But the hype is just phenomenal that is going down. It reminds me of the thrilla in Manila, you know, Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier. It's being created almost like a reality television summit meeting in Singapore. Why? Because... CABRERA: I knew you were a presidential historian, I didn't realize you were a sports historian as well, Doug.

BRINKLEY: Yes, very much so. Baseball fanatic. That's for another time.


BRINKLEY: You know, I think the big problem for Donald Trump is he needs a foreign policy success. He's got the Mueller report looming over. We've got midterm elections. He's bullying our allies, Canada today, you know, name calling on Trudeau, all of Europe disdains him, anger in the Middle East over moving the embassy -- U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, so he needs to at least come out with a symbolic win in Singapore.

And that just might mean that we got along well, and we're going to have future talks. There could be cultural exchanges, a few incremental, you know, policy advances. I don't believe this is going to be a grand slam.

And you played the clip during Barbara Starr peace of Ronald Reagan, trust and verify with the Soviet Union. And when you deal with North Korean, the word is distrust. Donald Trump needs to distrust the North Korean government mightily if he's going to, you know, advance the ball for the United States.

CABRERA: Sue Mi, does the President have a weaker hand now after this very public spat with the allies to the north?

TERRY: Well, it doesn't help. Kim Jong-un himself has met with his ally President Xi Jinping twice, really coordinating, so you'll be great if, you know, he has support of his allies. It's not -- it's not the time to pick fights with his allies.

I'm also worried that what this shows about picking arguments with allies is that he's going to go into this meeting, and not really care about allies interest, what I'm talking about is allies in the region like Japan.

CABRERA: South Korea and Japan.

TERRY: Exactly. Prime Minister Abe for example, came and met with President Trump, he said, please let's make a deal, lesser deal into intercontinental ballistic missile, that does really take care of short range or medium range missile because that still threatens Japan.

But he could make a deal like that. You know, he could make a deal on a peace treaty, for example, that also undermines for U.S. troop presence in South Korea, and U.S. alliance commitment to South Korea. So I'm concerned about that, what this shows about his commitments to allies, and how it treats his allies.

CABRERA: And on that note, this idea of relationships, and credibility, about making deals, Douglas, the German Foreign Minister said this, in a matter of seconds, you can destroy trust with 280 Twitter characters. To build that up again will take much longer.

[17:25:00] Have you ever seen the west so divided?

BRINKLEY: No. And it really saddens me. You know, I did my career earning my doctorate doing NATO studies, looking at the special relationship the United States has with West Germany back in the Cold War days in Great Britain, and France. Things are deteriorating mildly.

Donald Trump seems not to be content with just America First, but kind of promoting a rogue nationalism around the world, wanting to have fissures in our great alliances, believing that a chaotic foreign policy is a good one.

We haven't reaped benefits from this. But as long as President Trump has American dollar doing well, and unemployment low, he's going to be able to say, look, America is doing well under my watch. Give these gambits on doing some time.

But he's disdained -- we have to be honest about Donald Trump is really disdained by all of the world's great allies, and it saddens me to see something -- you know, when Barack Obama became president in early February in 2009, he went to Canada, his first foreign trip and said I love this country about Canada. Now Donald Trump is just trash talking the country.

And so it seems to be we're losing ground and leadership under the way that Donald Trump is doing kind of bully boy diplomacy, and bluster instead of alliance building, and soothing of nervous tensions. But he has a lot at stake in North Korea, if he can pull an ember out of that fire over there, he'll be able to say, you know, you see my approach to deal making actually reaps benefits.

CABRERA: Sue Mi, you mentioned China. Do you Think china is watching this squabble, this diplomatic firestorm, and thinking they have a golden opportunity?

TERRY: Yes, of course this only helps countries like China and Russia. And by the way, there was a recent poll in Germany where Germans said China and Russia are more reliable partners than the United States.

So what does that tell you? What does that tell you? This is again not the right time, or particularly when you're going in for a meeting like this, where major negotiation with North Korea to be doing this with allies.

CABRERA: Thanks so much, Sue Mi Terry and Douglas Brinkley, get to talk with both of you. Gone but not forgotten, Anthony Bourdain's death leaving friends and fans alike devastated. Why his death shook viewers around the world. Next, you're live in the CNN Newsroom.


CABRERA: All weekend long CNN has been honoring the life, legacy, and masterful storytelling of our dear friend and colleague Anthony Bourdain. Fan tributes are also pouring in for the celebrated chef, and the host of Parts Unknown who took his own life in a hotel room in France on Friday.

Bourdain's fans are leaving flowers and notes at his growing memorial outside the New York City restaurant where he used to work. And Chef Edward Lee spoke with me about his unique impact.


EDWARD LEE, CHEF 610 MAGNOLIA, MILKWOOD, SUCCOTASH: He couldn't walk two blocks in New York City without being stopped. And in a way that's different from maybe other celebrity chefs. People wanted to say thank you all the time, and just to kind of want a sliver of him. He had -- he had that much to give people, and he never -- he always had -- he always would stop, and take a picture, and say a few words.


CABRERA: The suicides of both Anthony Bourdain and designer Kate Spade are renewing discussions about mental health. CNN Political Commentator Doug Heye is also taking part in this important conversation. He is joining us now from Washington. Doug, thank you for being here, and for having this conversation.


CABRERA: Because so often you and I are just talking politics.

HEYE: Yes.

CABRERA: But this is something that is so important and that touches so many lives. I know you like so many of us felt that gut punch with the news of Anthony Bourdain's death. Why do you think it had such a profound and widespread impact on people?

HEYE: Well, I can only speak for myself and how he touched my life. And I mean, the chef that you just mentioned or interviewed, talk about saying thank you. When I met Anthony Bourdain, that's exactly what I said to him, and I thanked specifically a restaurant that he went to in Paris that I went to, and I had the same blood sausage that he had, and it was amazing.

I think my favorite memory with my nephew was last year -- we were in Shanghai, and he saw a restaurant, he's 10 years old -- saw a restaurant that had fish on the stick, and he went crazy for it. And we were only on that street because Anthony Bourdain showed me that street on his -- on his show. And that's the impact that he has.

This Friday, me and some friends will get together, and making his (Inaudible) recipe. We're going to open up some outs, gamble, wine from Burgundy, because these things are important. You know, we focus so much on what's tweeted and what's said in politics, but these things are so important.

And then the other thing is his real legacy, is I think the piece Rachel Smolkin wrote for CNN today, I think of what Kirsten Powers wrote for USA Today, really important things talking about, you know, the problems that we've all gone through.

My father died in December of 2012 -- 2016 and it took me a while to realize that I wasn't just mourning, but I had deeper problems, and I needed help, and I got it, and I'm better off because of it. And so many people were speaking because of how Anthony Bourdain impacted their lives. And it's not the stigma, it's you need help, it's not about admitting a witness, but finding strength.

CABRERA: So true, and thank you for being welling to share that you suffered through mental health issues as well, through depression.

[17:35:00] Just curious, in order for us to understand better, how did you know that it was something beyond just sadness, that you could use some additional help?

HEYE: Yes, you know, for me, I realized that I was losing my temper very quickly, and unfortunately taking it out on people who didn't deserve it. And you know, when a family member dies you spend a lot of time calling insurance companies, or banks, or whatever. And these poor people had to deal with me, frankly, just being a jerk.

And I realized that that short fuse needed help. And I got help not from friends, and I would nobody is better to me than Brianna Keilar, who we all know, was amazing. But I needed professional help as well. And you know, I was able to get it, and really improve my life. There are so many people out there who are experiencing pain, they are experiencing loss, feeling isolated, feeling alone.

And there's help out there, and they need to get it. And their life will get better. That's the good news. And again, it's not about -- it's not about admitting weakness, but finding strength. And again, that's what Anthony Bourdain's ultimate legacy is going to be.

When we raise a glass, when we make that food, and we're with friends and people that we love, and we tell them that we love them, that's what's really important. And in Washington, we lose sight of that all too often.

CABRERA: I think that's the other thing that you just hit, was that nail on the head. And the death of Anthony Bourdain really I think reminded us of what's most important. And you talk about those relationships that we have with other people, and how that's so important for our emotional heath as well. Thank you, Doug Heye for sharing your story...

HEYE: Thank you. Thank you, chef.

CABRERA: ... for discussing. Thank you.

HEYE: We'll miss you.

CABRERA: Indeed. Anthony Bourdain was just 61 years old when he took his own life. If someone you know is struggling with thoughts of self-harm, please call the number on your screen. This is the suicide prevention hotline. CNN will pay tribute to Anthony Bourdain with a special night reflecting on his life and legacy. It starts tonight at 9:00 only on CNN.


CABRERA: Welcome back to CNN's special coverage. The countdown is on. President Trump now one day away of a historic face-to-face showdown with North Korea's Dictator Kim Jong-un. The two leaders touching down in Singapore today are staying in hotels less than one mile apart, and the stakes are very high, so are the risks.

President Trump's unconventional approach to diplomacy and his deal making skills are on the line. Can President Trump convince a dictator to give up his nuclear arsenal? The world will soon find out. Let's check in with Ivan Watson, a CNN senior international correspondent live in Singapore for us. Ivan, what are you seeing today for Trump and Kim, anything signaling expectations for tomorrow's historic meeting?

IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, we just had a series of statements come out On north Korea's state news agency, that's KCNA, which has given us some details or at least North Korean perspective on the upcoming talks saying that this would be a meeting that would be historical, and would face great attention, and expectation the whole world.

And then mention the issues that would be discussed such as, quote, building a permanent, and durable peacekeeping mechanism on the Korean peninsula, realizing the, quote, denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. That, of course, is the key thing that the Trump administration is pushing for here.

And saying that that denuclearization is something that's required by the changed area -- era rather. It goes on to also point out that describe how Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, left North Korea and came here to Singapore, and used a Chinese plane to make the journey, pointing out that the Chinese plane was for his, quote, personal use. That underscores one of the other factors here.

And that is that it's pretty rare that we see around the world a head of state have to get from one place to another for an official visit by borrowing another country's plane, a China airplane. It says something about the state of North Korea's fleet of airplanes, about how tough a situation it is in economically, and that this is a proud country that still had to borrow a Chinese plane to get here.

And the argument that the Trump administration has used is that it is offering some kind of economic prosperity down the road to this quite impoverished country in exchange for the possible giving up of its nuclear arsenal.

And the question will be, can these two leaders come to such an agreement during this potentially historic face-to-face meeting of the leaders of two countries that have been adversaries for nearly 70 years. Ana.

CABRERA: And after all the fire and fury talk, it sounds like they both are expressing optimism, and positive feeling vibes going into this meeting. Ivan Watson in Singapore, I appreciate it.

Still to come, outrage after authorities arrest a man delivering a pizza to an army base because of his immigration status. Now, one governor is offering to pay his legal fees. Details ahead.


CABRERA: A pizza delivery guy whose arrest by I.C.E. sparked an outcry has been granted a stay of emergency on deportation. A 35- year-old Pablo Villavicencio is from Ecuador. He was detained as he made a delivery to a New York army base.

Now this case has sparked protest, a court battle, and a response from New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. I want to bring in CNN's Polo Sandoval who's been following this story. So, Polo, the court granted a stay. Explain what that mean, what else the court is saying, and ultimately, what does that mean for his future.

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Let's start with the facts in this case, Ana, as we understand it right now. Pablo Villavicencio, he is a 35-year-old New York area pizza delivery man who says he's in the country illegally. Ten days ago he accepted a delivery job at an army base in Brooklyn.

He arrived obviously with no Department of Defense implication, and he was subject to a background check on site to be able to get a visitor's pass. Well the system show that he had an active warrant for his deportation. I.C.E. was called, he was detained, and nearly deported when his lawyer over the weekend filed his emergency stay.

[17:50:03] We have to note this kind of case is certainly not unique as we heard from his lawyer earlier today. These kinds of 11th hour attempts to try to prolong with his efforts to send these people back to their native countries. In this case Ecuador, we have seen before, but the certainly the circumstances pf this are quite unique.

Obviously the involvement of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo as well, who has stayed behind this gentleman to try to keep him here in the United States. In about a month and a week, there will be a follow up hearing. Of course his family, his legal team will try to convince a federal judge why he should stay. I.C.E. of course will try to convince a judge why he should go.

CABRERA: Of course we mentioned that he did had an order for deportation, do we know why was this man a criminal? What does his family say?

SANDOVAL: I spoke to his lawyer earlier today. This gentlemen says that he does not have a criminal past. This active warrant for his deportation was not the result of any sort of encounter with law enforcement.

It was simply an administrative process that was -- that played out that resulted with this gentleman voluntarily saying that he would self-deport. He didn't in 2010, and that's what triggered this deportation order. And then finally I will say that his defense said that he did not sign the waiver for that background check. I.C.E. and the military base says that he did.

CABRERA: Very quickly, Andrew Cuomo, the Governor of New York has been sort of petitioning on behalf of this man, and he even has sent notice to the White House, to the chief of staff, General John Kelly. Any chance that's going to make a difference?

SANDOVAL: It could. That's what his legal team is hoping for. Not only did he reach out to the White House as you point out, but also the head of I.C.E. here in the New York field office. So as we spoke to his lawyer today, Ana, he said that his hopes are certainly high here as they begin to prepare to present this case to a federal judge in about five weeks time.

CABRERA: All right, thank you so much, Polo Sandoval.

SANDOVAL: Thanks, Ana.

CABRERA: And still ahead, having trouble putting down your phone? Aren't we all having trouble doing that these days? Well, you and the CEO of Apple have something in common. Tim Cook opens up to CNN about digital addiction and privacy in a CNN exclusive interview next, live in a CNN Newsroom. Don't go away.


CABRERA: He uses his phone too much. He worries about people thinking like machines. He thinks invasion of privacy is out of control. Apple CEO Tim Cook reveals some intriguing insights in an exclusive interview with CNN's Laurie Segall news. She sat down with him at this week's world wide developer's conference in San Jose. Laurie.

LAURIE SEGALL, CNN SENIOR TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Ana. Well, I don't know about you, but I know for me I use my phone all the time, way too much. And you know, I think the bigger tech companies are beginning to talk about this. We've heard Facebook talk about this. Now we're hearing Apple. Just this last week, they made a pretty interesting announcement, they decided to launch something called Screen Time, which is essentially a feature that tells you how much time you're spending on your phone.

It will give you the actual minutes, and help you try to take that control back. Try to spend less time on some of these apps. It was a really interesting announcement I think at a time where a lot of us are questioning the impact of technology on our mental health, and on our children. You know, I had the opportunity to sit down with Apple CEO, Tim Cook. And I started out by asking him about his own tech habits. Take a listen.


SEGALL: So, tell me about your own tech habits.

TIM COOK, CEO, APPLE: Yes, I've been using it and I have to tell you, I thought I was fairly disciplined about this, and I was wrong. When I began to get the data, I found I was spending a lot more time than I should.

SEGALL: Like where?

COOK: And -- well, I don't want to give you all the apps, but just too much. And the number of times I picked up the phone were too many. I also found that the number of notifications I was getting just didn't make sense anymore.

SEGALL: This is a sticky time. What do you tell people who are worried they are addicted to their smart phones?

COOK: It's different for each of us, and -- but I think the power is now shifted to the user. And that has been what Apple has always been about. It's giving the power from institution to the user. And I'm very hopeful that great things are going to happen from this.

SEGALL: So interesting because there's this idea who is in control, man or machine. You believe that we as human beings, we can control.

COOK: I absolutely do. I don't subscribe to the machines taking over the world. And I don't worry about that. I worry much more about people thinking like machines than machines thinking like people.

SEGALL: That's interesting. What do you mean?

COOK: I mean forgetting the humanity in things, forgetting that all of our products should be infuse with humanity, forgetting that we have a broader obligation to society. I mean, these things -- I do not fear machines.

SEGALL: I get the sense that that feels very personal to you, what you just said.

COOK: It does.


COOK: Because it's the reason I'm on the face of the earth. It makes it really personal, right? This is -- this is the role I play.


SEGALL: And we went beyond tech addiction, which is obviously something a lot of folks are thinking about. We spoke about privacy. I know Tim Cook has had a lot to say on this. He had a lot to say with me.

He said that privacy -- he said the privacy thing is out of control, and that it's a fundamental human right that is under attack. So, you know, obviously this is a very important moment. This all happened at a developers conference where we hear a lot of different updates for the iPhone.

But this year we have heard more. We have heard more about privacy, we have heard about tech addiction because as we see, I think tech has a much larger scope, and it impacts us in a very personal way, which we are beginning to have that conversation --