no one can expect much from President-Elect as he surrounded by people with same old same old policies, people like Clinton, Gates…..…..

The world is waiting anxiously to see the change and the deferent policy!

Doctors know that diagnosing a disease by treating the symptoms(terror) is wrong
They are looking for the rout cause (doctrines) and later treat it ending the disease and the symptoms

Hopfully ms Obama, the CHANGE presidend will find the way to united countries and Muslim people willing to resist the terror groups and supporting countries to act openly and non stop against them untill they will be defeated

Example of rout cause (doctrine):
Muslim Brotherhood Website: Jihad Against Non-Muslims Is Obligatory October 17, 2008
Muslim Brotherhood website posted articles by Dr. Ahmad 'Abd Al-Khaleq about Al-Walaa Wa'l-Baraa, an Islamic doctrine which stipulates absolute allegiance to the community of Muslims and
total rejection of non-Muslims and of Muslims who have strayed from the path of Islam.

a Muslim can come closer to Allah by hating all non-Muslims – Christians, Jews, atheists, or polytheists – and by waging jihad against them in every possible manner.

Example of symptone(terror)
Hamas Leader Khaled Mash'al: Our Proposal for Tahdiah ("Calm") Is Tactical
interview aired on Al-Jazeera TV on April 25, 2008
In 2003, we began a tahdiah, and later renewed the operations. The same thing happened following 2005
Hamas and the will use the tahdiah to grow stronger, both in terms of weapons and training, and that the people will recover and prepare for the next round, because we are talking about a tactical tahdiah

No one can expect much from President-Elect as he surrounded by people with same old same old policies, people like Clinton, Gates…..….. Fawad Ali

• But the Man with owner keeps the promises, (the changes from lobbyists influenced policies) to the kind of independent effective leadership) that fulfill the world hops and expectations. The man supposed to be in control and be the ultimate policy maker.

• The president is up there on top of all for all not just for some.

Let`s not veeroff the question which says and I quote:"Obama Still Mum On Gaza".Choosing people like Rahm Emanuel and Hillary Rodham Clinton shows no change in Obamas slogans of change in America and the Middle East.Obama condemned the Mumbai attacks by terrorists even when he became Mr President-Elect Obama,but he dares not tell his friends in Israel that enough is enough.

Ehud Barack,Tvi Livni,Ehud Olmert and other left wing politicians know they can do whatever they want to do the US is behind them.The US is supplying them with arms and money to build more illegal settlements on Palestinian lands.Obama is not the one who is making decisions we know he is encicled with lobbysts(AIPAC) and they were the ones who were sponsoring him through out his election campaigns and now he has won the election he is trying by all possible means not to betray his supporters.What a sad day for ordinary civilians in Gaza.

I am sick and tired of CNN reporting on the poor palestinens. Great real and look at who is end rockets into Israel and the children living there in bomb shelters and the rockets being sent into Israeli communities. Where is the the outrage there. Israek has a right to defend its citizens and I would have more respect for your news network if you had balanced news.

Notice the vicious cycle? Hamas bombs Israel, Israel responds, world sticks nose in Israel's business, Israel backs off, Hamas bombs again....

Here's an idea: Hamas bombs Israel, Israel responds, world allows Israel to deal with it, no more Hamas! BREAK THE CYCLE!!!!

M Ariely,
Its to the contrary, if you don't believe in Christianity and Judaism than you are not a Muslim ( part of the Five pillars of Islam), Islam dose not call for hatred but calls for a common word that we all worship the same god.
The second thing , in Islam there is no one who can speak on behalf of Allah, so if Dr. Ahmad ‘Abd Al-Khaleq says this, then its his own opinion not the opinion of Islam, we need here to draw a line between Islam and the Political Islam that even a grans Mufti will speak his own opinion even the Imam of Mecca. full stop.

Fawad,

If Obama is surrounded by the same people, you should be happy.

If Obama can speak up on the economy, etc, BEFORE he takes office as he has been doing since the day after the election, he can at least make a statement about this situation NOW!!

He has surrounded himself with people who do seem will encourage the same old same old–someone told me that Rahm Emmanuel's father was part of the underground group, the Stern Gang, who were considered 'terrorists" by the British before Israel became a state. I will check sources.

M Ariely, if you are going to quote extremist Muslim doctrine over and over, as if it is the ONLY doctrine of Muslims, start quoting extremist doctrine of Jews–and there are plenty! All Muslims are NOT in agreement with what you quote.

Expand your horizons friend. There are more ideas at there than the one Muslim view you keep presenting! Just like all other peoples/cultures of the world, Muslims are diverse in their opinions and do not live by just Muslim Brotherhood doctrine.

The Hebrew Bible, Old Testament, however you wish to call it, like the Koran, has been used to justify atrocities throughout history, ie, the US South used it to justify slavery in the mid 1800s. Anyone can interpret any holy book how they wish to justify all sorts of atrocities, and they have. NOT just Muslims–Jews and Christians, too.

Hunk, what if one does not want to worship any God. I don't want ANYONE dictating how I should worship. It is absolutely no one's business, including muftis, priests, rabbis, et al, how I choose to worship or not worship God, Allah or however one chooses to call the Universal Power...according to THEIR interpretation of what man has said God has said! It's ALL interpretation!!

My relationship to God is between me and him/her ONLY. Nobody else's business!!

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND HAMAS:

BETWEEN "EVERYBODY DIES" AND "EVERYBODY LIVES", THEY PREFER THE FORMER.

When is the U.S. gonna realize that there will NEVER peace between Israel and Palistine? They have been fighting since Israel became a nation. the Western world has been trying to make peace since. Let's face it, peace is NOT gonna happen between them.

I cant believe these people worring about mr obama!Stop worring about what he thinks and look at what the prime minister of russia is saying,and the president of iran,all over the world people want to kill the jewish people and take over the holy land!Thats what we should be talking about not what Mr obama thinks or why hes not talking.Hes not talking so you can hear the war drums beating its getting louder !I cant believe russia is talking to hamas and France is trying to stop the jewish people from liberating themselves from these monsters called hamas!Your out of your minds if you think they want peace in the holy land they want death ,destruction,hate,envy,and to takeover. Mr obama said if you launch a missle over my city ill be worried and defend myself thats enough of an answer for me i only wish that people would listen and be afraid of all these countries who want to kill the jewish people thats the real story .THAT COUNTRY IS AS SMALL AS NEW JERSEY THE ARABS CONTROL MILLIONS OF MILES IN THE MIDDLE EAST YOUR KIDDING ME!!

Obama,

For the sake of humanity, and if he is what he says he is "a president for peace" hehold speak out and urge BOTH sides to stop the violence.

He is soon to be the leader of the most powerful nation in the world. He must get involved. In a neutral way! The unitws states MUST not align itself soley to Israel but to BOTH Israel and Palestine.

There is so much to be done to repair the damage between both countries, if america gets involved it should do so for everyone in the region, not just Israel. Palestinians deserve to live in peace too.

Peace talks need to resume now before the decends into an even deeper hellish madness.

Outraged Jew

"My relationship to God is between me and him/her ONLY. Nobody else’s business!!"

One hundred percent agreed ( 100%)

18:29 Say, "The truth is from your Lord": Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it).

Debs,

"Palestinians deserve to live in peace too"

I agree, but it is not Israel bringing this war on them. It is Hamas, in their neverending effort to obliterate us. Israel is just defending itself against Hamas.

True peace with the Palestinians can only be achieved when they free themselves of the terrorist leaders that plagued this region for the last 60 years. From Husseini, to Arafat, to Haniya and his Hamas. Sure, a cease-fire can be negotiated with them, but sooner or later they'll be back to rockets and suicide bombers and everyone will suffer once again.

I understand everyone's wish for the violence to stop. I want it little more than you. But what I like even less is being constantly bombarded and blown up. And if I need the former to stop the latter, then that is what I'll do, because Hamas didn't give us another way.

What we're doing now is, among other things like destroying weapon supplies and command centers, it is scaring Hamas into accepting a truce on our terms.

Because a cease-fire on their terms, when we ceased and they fired, is unnaccptable.

Tell me, what clauses would you include to stop Hamas from renewing its rockets? How would you make Hamas agree to them?

"it is not Israel bringing this war on them. It is Hamas, in their neverending effort to obliterate us. Israel is just defending itself against Hamas"

Beny.

Israel broke the ceasefire Israel attacked and killed more than 400 wound more than 2000. and you accuse the Palestinians of starting it?
Zionist logic, right? and in your twisted logic the Palestinians have no right to defend them selves only Israel have that right.

Happy new year all, and may 2009 bring a day

When the Golani soldier will come home from another boring day at the base.

when Hamas will once again become a powerless bunch of lunatics despised by Jews and Arabs alike,

when the kids of Sderot and the kids of Gaza will shake hands through the border between Israel and the Palestinian state.

Lu yehi, as Hebrew speaks of such things, lu yehi (may it be so).

Goodnight

Here is what scares me about Israel as far as Mr. Obama is concerned. I cannot get it out of my mind and worry constantly about it.

As a christian, I have always admired and enjoyed reading about Israel but Israel has always gotten their way with the United States even when poor blacks and other taxpayers are neglected.

What happens if Mr. Obama gets tough with all the warring parties in the Middle East.

What happens if he breaks the mold with aid to Israel? What happens if he tries to speak out and fairly about the terrible plight of the Palestinians?

Will certain entities in Israel try to bring him down or worse? I do not think that Israel would ever be comfortable with a black president.

I think the relationship between African Americans and Jews will get awefully worse and dangerous should something happens to Mr.Obama .

Obama's ear piercing silence is deafening and disappointing to many.

"For the sake of humanity, and if he is what he says he is “a president for peace” hehold speak out and urge BOTH sides to stop the violence."

urge BOTH sides to stop the violence!!!

Debs,

isn't that to old thing and had been said over and over?
if this tis the kind of change Obama comes up with, then it is better for hem to stay mum.

Anyway, it doesn’t matter: Israel has joined the list of people, who are hard to deal with, diplomatically, people like Iran, Hamas, Syria, and Bush administration.

Now Israel’s only policy is to let its ‘Guns’ talking, and ignore the calls from its allies…….

Killing with sophisticated advanced F16 and other up to date technologies is the acceptable, justified and civilized way, other low tech means is uncivilized and pure terrorism!!!

In the 21 sentry dinosaurs domination "Might is right" is the prevailing rule. The only way to put an end to this rule is just hop for a meteorite to hit Earth and wipe this crazy savage world out.

Killing and destruction with sophisticated advanced F16 and other up to date technologies is the acceptable, justified and civilized way, other low tech means is uncivilized and pure terrorism!!!

http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/atrocities.htm

The ones using low tech ways to fight back must upgrade their weapons to create the balance, only then can their point and voice be heard and recognized. “They way to be right and civilized”.

Right now, you are uncvivlized and worthless humanbeeing.

Obama must act ..no excuse...must have a say...bush adm. is off now and you cant leave the world in the hand of bloody israely murdures !!

No Saudi,

Just because we're more technological than them doesn't make us terrorists. It makes us stay alive.

Saudi, Israel uses sophisticated weaponry to protect her citizens from the low-tech but lethal weapons of her enemies, low-tech weapons stored in civilian populated areas and that are fired deliberately into civilian populated areas.

The ones using low tech ways to fight back must upgrade their weapons to create the balance, only then can their point and voice be heard and recognized. “They way to be right and civilized”.

Right now, Plesrinians are uncvivlized and worthless humanbeeing

TAKE A LOOK, THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER SOUTH ISRAEL FOR 8 YEARS NOW! WHAT OTHER COUNTRY WOULD HAVE TOLERATED THIS FOR SO LONG?!

Israel keeps high values despite nonstop terror

Humanitarian aid to gaza
31/12-109trucks
29/12-80trucks
abulances,large quantity of medical equipment and blood units
Today additional trucks will arive Gaza

All this despite Hamas charter point:

The day of jugment will not come until Moslems fight killing the Jews.The stones&trees will say O Moslem,there is a jew behind me
KILL HIM

Should Israel lineup their values to Hamas values?
NO
I SALUTE ISRAEL MORAL VALUES

OBAMA WILL NEVER DARE UTTER A WORD AGAINST HIS MASTERS WAKE UP PEOPLE THIS IS NOT MUMBAI.

HELEN FROMEN: CNN IS PRO ISRAEL, AND THERE IS NOTHING HAPPENING ON THE OTHER SIDE TO REPORT FYI THE DEATH RATIO IS ABOUT 400 ARABS V/S 4 JEWS.

R HOWARD: HOW ABOUT HAMAS BOMBS AN OCCUPIER OF THEIR LAND WORLD ALLOWS RIGHTFUL DEMANDS AND ACTIONS AND AMERICA GIVES IT WEAPONS, NO MORE ISRAEL OCCUPIER, JEWS PACK AND GO BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM.****END OF OCCUPATION****

BENY: BENY BENY ..
*YOU MEAN OSLO HUMILIATION PACT

*EVERY OCCUPIER DIES NOT EVERYBODY "THATS WHAT HAMAS PREFER"

*YOU MEAN FOR THE LAST 60 YEARS SINCE ISRAEL CAME TO OCCUPY THEIR LAND, (SO WHERE WERE ISRAEL BEFORE THOSE 60 YEARS) ??

*ISRAEL DID'T GET A SERIOUS NON TERRORIST PERSON TO NEGOTIATE WITH, HOW ABOUT ISRAEL THE ONLY DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY IN THE REGION SELECTS A PALESTINIAN LEADER TO NEGOTIATE WITH??

*ISRAEL IS DREAMING IF THEY THINK THIS KILLINGS WILL LEAD HAMAS TO MAKE TRUCE WITH ISRAEL TERMS AND CONDITIONS!!

*SO ISRAEL IS BOMBING WEAPONS SUPPLIES AND COMMAND CENTERS I.E. MOSQUES, POLICE ACADEMY, PRIVATE HOMES ETC??

*END THE OCCUPATION CLAUSE WILL STOP HAMAS HOME MADE CRACKERS!!!!

TONY LARUE: SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT OBAMA SHOULD NOT DO THE RIGHT ACTION BECAUSE HE MIGHT ENDANGER THE AFRICAN AMERICAN RELATIONS WITH THE JEWS..

WES: THEY HAVE BEEN FIGHTING....SINCE ISRAEL BECAME A NATION ON THEIR (PALESTINIAN) RIGHTFUL LAND AND BROUGHT ITS CITIZENS WITH THEM.....THEN, AND WILL END ONLY WHEN THEY LEAVE THE PALESTINIAN LAND AND GO BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM...EUROPE, USA, AFRICA, ASIA, OTHER MIDDLE EAST COUNTRIES AS WE HAVE SEEN AND HEARD ALL OTHER OCCUPIERS DO THROUGH OUT HISTORY.

LUIS: NOW WHO IS BRINGING DEATH, DESTRUCTION, HATE, ENVY, JEALOUSY, EVEN IF THE COUNTRY WAS 1SQUARE METER ITS STILL BELONGS TO THEM ALBEIT NEW JERSEY SIZE.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Okay, ben, seeing how you didn't bother to respond coherently and logically to my comment, I'm going to conclude that you are a brainwashed Arab and wasting my time on you is useless.

Palestinian military inferiority is not an indication of moral superiority.

Being militarily weak does not make the Palestinians right.

Beny,
On New Year Eve, Israelis around the world must have had launched more fire crackers than Palestinians have in the 8 years…………..

And how you can even think of comparing ‘what you have lost with what Palestinians have lost’…………

No life should be lost unnessecary. So the number of people killed 4 against 400 does not matter what matter is life whether of one or 10million.
The problem here is not kassam rocket, Israel Bombardment or Western media propaganda but OCCUPATION. There is only one country here which is in the wrong and it is ISRAEL. And the solution lies with them .. TO END THE OCCUPATION, RESPECT INTERNATIONAL LAW, LIVE WITHIN ITS INTERNATIONALLY DEFINED BORDERS AND LET THE PALESTINIANS LIVE AS PEOPLE.

HAMAS has all the rights in the world to resist the occupation by whatever means necessary anyone occupied would. And those calling for HAMAS recognise Israel right to exist as occupier are simply hypocrite. Even Arafat did not recognise Israel before negotiation.
How can you recognise the right of 7your occupier and oppressor to exist.???
As I said earlier Israel actions are suicidal we have seen it in Lebanon and if they continue in this manner their end is nigh.
,

Joseph , if the problem was the 'occupation' why did the Arabs attack Israel before 1967?

Why did they attack in 1948?

Why did they attack Jews before 1917?

The problem is not the 'occupation'. The problem is Arab hate.

Mirriam,

Very good,
you solved the Arab hate proble,
and every time you kill an arab you reduce the arab hate further,
the stratigy is to continue kiling and killing until the last hate finish.

" Israeli Anti hate movment"

"Why did they attack Jews before 1917?"

Mariam

this is new. is this the latest from the Zionist propaganda kitchen?

BENY:

WHAT WAS YOUR COMMENTS CHECK ABOVE MY COMMENT, I DIDN'T COHERENTLY AND LOGICALLY RESPONDED TO. (LU YEHI)

Fawad,

Besides, saying that Israel is the aggressor here just because more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis is absurd. Based on this logic, you could say that in WW2 the Axis countries were victims of Allied aggression.

"THEY HAVE PRECISION OF 10 METERS, WHICH MEANS THAT HAMAS CAN NOW AIM DELIBERATELY AT SPECIFIC BUILDINGS"
Beny
I hope you are right might be a good Idea to hit your parliament building and at your Synagogues and your universities and hospitals. an Eye for an Eye right Beny.

It is the same old theme. It is OK for the Palestinian's or Arab's to kill and attack woman but don't let anyone else do it. Pure double standard. There is nothing that can be done to stop this other then what Israel is doing. When the Palestinian's wanted the land it was given to them but they were not satified and resumed the bombings. They will not be happy until Israel is gone and then they will resume fighting and killing each other. It is their way of life.

Solomon, yes, Arabs attacked Jews in the 19th century. When Jews built homes outside the walls of Jerusalem in the 1860s they were attacked and forced back into the Old City.
A non-Jewish, European researcher recorded in her diary of 1904 that Jewish children could not walk to school unprotected and that Jews were regularly insulted in the streets.

Israeli synagogues, universities, hospitals and parliament buildings are not used to store rockets and weapons and to hide armed terrorists.

Guys, Aljazeera overcome you in covering Israelis raid against Gaza, pulling off most of your audiences. Aljazeera showed the ugly face of every human being who is silent to this massacre.

Solomon,

But you don't care about Gazans living, do you? You just care about me dying.

Beny,
Just because Israel is militarily strong does not make them right!

Talking is better than bombing.

Israel right or wrong for too many. Destruction in the long run for all will be the outcome as this insane policy continues.

Epitaph on the world's gravestone (I actually saw this written on a gravestone in a California cemetery about 20 years ago):

"He who has the most toys wins"

Whoopee doo for us all!

Only problem is, If you're dead you can no longer play with your toys.

In the end, Beny, when it is all done, what does Israel have?

Victory? Indeed.

And with all your toys, no one will want to play with you once you finish wiping out your enemy.

No one may be left to play with at this rate, including Israel.

Might does NOT make right, it only isolates you and destroys you in the end.

If no use of diplomacy and talking (regardless if you think you have done so before, try again!), you Israel risk losing more than you realize.

Happy New Year!

mariam.

yes and Jews attacked Germans but I have no proof either. a non German researcher recorded in his diary too.

well as I said i hope that they retaliate destroying Israeli synagogues, universities, hospitals and parliament buildings because they are full of Jewish Terrorists. an eye for an eye right mariam.

Ben your reply
TONY LARUE: SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT OBAMA SHOULD NOT DO THE RIGHT ACTION BECAUSE HE MIGHT ENDANGER THE AFRICAN AMERICAN RELATIONS WITH THE JEWS..

Not exactly, but regardless of the outcome, he has to be forceful with both sides. He has to show some form of impartiality and if thit is not done we are going to be in the same sad situation 4-8years from now

The relationship between Jews and blacks have not always been good anyway. There are still some blacks (worldwide) who believe the true story of the lost tribes of Israel and about the present day inhabitants of Israel is not being told.

Some of the money that the US sends to Israel for weapons can go to help poor blacks and whites in the United States. I am sure the poorest Jews in Israel are living better that the poorest blacks and whites in the US.

How can we forget Katrina? The wall street crooks who ripped off poor blacks and others with their mortgages and savings scams

I wish Mr.Obama all the luck because he is going to need it. All other presidents have failed and they were white like the European Jews. Obama is black and there is where Israel's distrust of him comes in.

The Palestinians are paying a bigger price and I am saddened to see this. Things have to change before we are at the point of no return

Regarding Obama.

I wonder... I think something happens once one reaches that leadership position.

Obama is uncharacteristically so quiet now.

There is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about...all is not what it seems...

I think something is up...more than we out here can fathom

It will be interesting to hear what he has to say when he finally does speak.

.
"Eye for an eye, right. Only we don’t stuff our synagogues with rocket supplies like Hamas does with mosques"

Beny.
yes an Eye for an Eye.I repeat if what you said is true I wish they target
Israeli synagogues, universities, hospitals and parliament building because they are full of Jewish Terrorists too.

Solomon, her name was Mrs. Goodrich-Freer.

You think you can change the truth as easily as you change my name.

Miriam.

and his name was John Hubert.

miriam.
that is the name of the non German that say that Jews attacked Germans in the late thirties. but like you he is lying.

Miriam ,Mariam ,Mary are all the same name. just like Solomon Suaiman or Moses ,Mousa. you can call me Sulaiman no difference to me.

I hope it is understood miriam.

Israel is giving booklets to its people that are writing on blogs and letters to editors booklets show them what to say and to repeat that hamas is responsible for all this. the booklets tell them to repeat these sentences because the world will believe it if they hear it from different people.

does any of the Israeli posters here have one of these booklets?

In war, there are no winners! No to HAMAS and no to Israel, NO it wrong!

I think its a history thing... just read the BIBLE.

Just one question to all: What were a Hamas leader doing in the camp? Was he using the people as a shield to save himself?

What is the HAMAS legacy? To kill all Jews....????

ISRAEL FATE IS DECIDED BY ITS OWN PEOPLE.
It is just a matter of time before the right time and right condition come, three years from today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRxz1_IGFmU
or three thousand years, The payment back is an absolute certainty.

Prepare the escape kenos!

Shloimi,

I admit that I have heard of groups of Israeli bloggers working day and night on the binary battlezone, defending Israel from verbal attackers like you as well. This is all private initiative however.

May I remind you that all the sane posters on this site have been here deflecting your lies for much longer than this war. And even if there are pamphlets (PLEASE SHOW ME PROOF) I have never seen or heard of one.

And nevertheless, it does not diminish a bit from the truth I or Miriam or Dan have posted here.

Thank Allah for free speech!

He allowed it to flourish in America, but for some reason, he has not encouraged it in the countries where most of his believers live.

It seems the anti-Israel fanatics on the internet are bound and determined to prove they are fools. Maybe their rants give them some sense of satisfaction, but they do nothing to persuade reasonable people.

Or the truth as seen by others who don't agree with Miriam, Dan and Beny.

All truths need to be voiced and heard. Human truth from all sides is valid from all points of view.

Repeat 100,000,000+ times: Israel is also responsible "for all this."

It takes two to tango.

Benjamin.

Yes i heard it on the news today one of the satellite TV station I think it is MBC it said that the Israei army radio is saying that its broadcast is being interrupted by signals from Gaza .the same Israeli army source talked about the bookllets.

Outraged Jew,

Tell me, how do you propose we defend ourselves from Hamas?

Shloimi,

Hahaha, joke's on you, I'm actually Reuben, not Benjamin.

Beny.

. according to Israeli army source? you should be ashamed of your self

"Tell me, how do you propose we defend ourselves from Hamas?"

your best defense to stop Hamas and defeat them is get out of the west bank and Gaza so the Palestinians will establish their state nothing else will work for you Benjamin.

Try talking again. Diplomacy was not used enough. What is happening now sure is not working.

You have demonstrated all too well how powerful Israel is and how–by far–with all the weapons Israel has–far, far outnumbers those of the Palestinians. This "war" is very disproportianate weapons wise.

The one with the most toys should be the first to promote dialog.

I doubt very much that "after this war" Israel will have peace and quiet. Besides physically destroying the Beautiful land of Israel/Palestine, there will be many messes to clean up, political and otherwise. You'll have a big balagan/mess in too many ways.

Just how far is Israel willing to go with this? Do you envision peace and quiet even if it means destroying all of the Gaza Strip?

Just how far are you willing to let this go?

And are you prepared to deal with the fallout whenever the bloodshed ends?

As abhorent as it may be to you, Beny et al, what would each of you do, as a human being, if you were the ones in Gaza instead of where you are now?? What if the shoe was on the other foot?

The continued bombing is just making Palestinians–and the world community–angrier. Lots to deal with right there if this insanity ever stops.

I look forward to your response, Beny.

lets get er done enough is enough takem out israel send leaflets first carpet bomb the hole mideleast before it is to late let god sort it out enough north americans are ready for the finall crusade the end game for the middel east lets geter done peace on earth finally

THIS WAS ON CNN/RICK SANCHEZ SEGMENT THIS AFTERNOON AND DESERVES POSTING HERE, AS WELL AS FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR ALL US BLOGGERS HERE:

Fear Isn’t Political

Something important happened here on our program Wednesday.

After almost of full week of talking to officials, correspondents, ambassadors, spokespeople, pundits and spinners about all things related to the Gaza conflict, we decided to talk to real people.

It was producer/writer Gary Daughter’s idea and it was brilliant. Here’s why: What we found was these people had plenty to say, but none of it was political.

Karen in Israel told us about the fear of Palestinian militant rocket fire, about people coming together to protect one another, about real fear and real frustration.

From Hasan living inside Gaza, we learned about desperation, about hearing the sound of unmanned drones and then preparing for what followed: death.

Not once did Karen in Israel, or Hasan in Gaza mention politics. They didn’t spin, they didn’t talk about blame, they didn’t talk about hate.

And that’s ironic, because they, more than anybody, had plenty of reason to be angry, right?

Now, compare that to those who aren’t there, but have plenty to say about the story.

The ones who blog everyday, hatefully to me and probably everybody else who covers this story.

Some write-in that the Palestinians are right, the Israelis are wrong and Rick Sanchez is an idiot for not getting it.

Others write-in that the Israelis are right, the Palestinians are wrong and Rick Sanchez is an idiot for not getting it.

They are angry, they are nasty and generally ill-informed. They’re bloggers. Are they entitled to their opinions, no matter how hateful? Of course they are. But doesn’t it say something about them? They don’t live the experience, they’re not there. They usually only read what affirms what they think and they think only they are right.

If they had to walk for one day in the shoes of Karen in Southern Israel or Hasan in Gaza, they would likely know so much more and hate so much less.

What do you think?

shawn.

ate lots of hamburgers today? how about doing that to China or Russia.

well let us see.... you ran from Vietnam,and then from Lebanon, and then from Somalia.and you are ready to run from Iraq.even your president had a good double shoes in Baghdad. you still have your Job Shawn.

Solomon and Beny,

OJ is correct on everything that he says...

Peace can and only will acheived when the people themselves are willing to commit. There are plenty of people on both sides of this deeply sensitive conflict that want peace. The funny thing is that is used to use the word "complicated" to describe the conflict. Is it really though?

All it would take is for both sides to recognise each others right to exist. For Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel..For Israel to stop the current sitaution in Gaza. Its not science...if people really want peace they will truly work towards it by ceasing the violence and to start talking about moving forward.

Salam and Shalom

Shawn

with all do respect...working on a peace process is alot better than carpet bombing the entire mid east...

Salam and Shalom

Solomon and Beny,

OJ Is correct in what he says,

There are plenty of people on both sides that want peace. If people are to acheive peace they should start talking. Open dialogue restraint on use of violence and deplomacy is the only way to overcome this deeply sensitive situation.

I used to use the word "complicated" to describe this conflict. Is it really though? Peace isnt that complicated to achieve. It can be done.

Salam and Shalom

Shawn

Go and get your self checked, you are sick and hateful, shame not only on you but with you, eats and sleep with you, my god i feel like vomiting.

Debs,

Shalom and Salam, after what he said!!!!, you really deserve a noble peace prize

Hunk,

I use Shalom and Salam as my usual sign off.. :)

There is alot of anger and hate surrounding this issue, understandably so. What imperative now is to try and find so sort of peace out of this.

On this blog some people can be hateful and very nasty. Lets try an not take it personaly...

Because of the issue we are discussing it is going to be VERY heated. Saying that its no excuse for people to become racially and religously slanderous.

So.....lets keep cool..

Salam and Shalom to all

I have no booklet and have seen no booklet although it is possible they exist.

Hamas has a charter clearly calling for the destruction of Israel.

The booklets you refer to are most likely those produced by the Home Command issued to all Israeli households explaining how to prepare in the event of an enemy attack, which rooms are the safest to shelter in and what supples are useful to have at hand, such as emergency lights, buckets and tape.

There may be booklets explaining Israel's position in this conflict, but that you can find in newspapers, on TV and on the internet also. There's nothing wrong with a country defending herself with words or is Israel denied that right aswell?

For all of you here that call for talking instead of bombing. Debs, OJ...

What would your country do that Israel didn't to avoid these civilian deaths?

I owe it to myself and others not to stay silent on this following matter.
Some of us seem to forget that during Mr. Yasser Arafat's rein, Israel killed several Poilce Officers.

Again last week, they killed many more Police Officers in Gaza. Does Israel want a break down of Law and order for their own gain?

Regardless of how it is articulated, this is wrong, wrong, wrong. I have lost all respect and admiration for the powers that be in Israel as a result.

As a former Police Officer, I cannot stay silent in this matter anymore if others are. When you wear the uniform regardles of which country you serve, you wear the uniform " to serve and protect." In any other country, no one would getaway with this.

Please Mr. Obama, I know you have the highest respect for the job Law enforcement Officers are doing so please my brother in Christ do not let Israel getaway with this anymore.

Tony Larue,

I can understand your outrage at the deaths of people of a profession that anywhere else, is one of the most selfless, risking one's life to protect citizens.

But what you must understand is that Hamas "policemen" are not policemen at all. They swore an oath not to "serve and protect", but to "serve and kill"- serve Allah and kill Israelis.

Sure, Hamas gave them uniforms, but, uniform or not, these people are still terrorists. They serve a dual pupose:

- sometimes they act as full-time terrorists, including rocket-laucnching.

- but most of the time they patrol the streets for Sharia violations, and carry out executions against Fatah supporters and other people who oppose Hamas.

Calling them policemem is like calling the Gestappo, which were technically a part of the German police force, policemen.

Please, my brother in God if not Christ, don't let Hamas get away with this.

Beny,

Thank you for understanding my outrage and I thank you also for your feedback which has given me some perspective at this very sad time indeed..

Thank you my brother in God and Christ.

TO Beny in response to "Tell me, how do you propose we defend ourselves from Hamas?"

Beny,
The best defense is diplomacy! You have so many weapons over Hamas at this point, why are you so afraid to stop the bombing for a time and just try an alternative to this horrible violence??

It is important to bring a HUMAN face to both sides of this issue. To be balanced, both sides of this human debacle must continue to be shown.

Everyone needs to try and envision their very human reaction to Gaza/Israel, whichever ’side’ you’re on.

Israel, if you were in Gaza's place, living in squalor with all sides of your neighborhood barricaded off from medical help, food, water, and bombs were dropping on your neighborhood, how would you react?

Arab Region and the rest of the World, If rockets came through your window, how would you react?

Both sides need to try diplomacy (again, Beny, again!!)

It is unconscionable that the United States places all blame for the tragic events in Gaza on Hamas, calling on them to stop firing rockets into Israel, while offering blind, total support to Israel. What's happening is heartbreaking – and to hear the U.S. and Israelis placing all blame on Hamas with no acknowledgment of the circumstances in which Gazans have been forced to live is tough to stomach.

This sort of one sided approach is the cause of many, if not most of our problems in the Middle East, including many people’s hatred of us as a nation. In the future we must respond much more harshly to Israel’s policies of continuing to support illegal settlements, continuing to ignore UN resolutions and the International Court of Justice, and in military strikes like those of this weekend. Palestinian rocket fire at Israeli civilians constitutes a war crime and those responsible for it must be prosecuted. Israel is obligated to defend its civilians, but it must do so in compliance with international humanitarian law.

For one of the parties involved in the ongoing war in the middle east to criticize president-elect Obama for not issuing a statement to condenm the war is to me, absurd. Obama did not start the war – You started the war, then you alone will finish it – If you don’t know, we are fighting a bigger war here in America. We are losing our jobs, losing our homes and etc. And part of the reason we are having this economic war is because while it was brewing, our leaders were busy trying to fix things at Iraq. If anyone around the world choses to start a war thinking Obama as president of the united states of america will stop it for them, sorry I’ve got news for you — The fundamentals of our economy is not strong as you head last time.

kingsley,
California

May be Mr Obama should watch this.

http://tyros.leb.net/qana/qana.ram

May be Mr Obama should watch this.

http://tyros.leb.net/qana/qana.ram

Solomon

The white house hase good understandings why Israel does this,

the white house says it is the appropriate way to confront the Palaestinian terrorism,

next time to don't show palestinans propaganda to the west don't like to like to see, " ugly and desturbing".

show the jewish propaganda the west likes to hear, see and act uopn.

THE AMERICAN JUSTICE

http://tyros.leb.net/qana/qana.ram

The crisis in the Middle East is a disgrace for our generation, all human beings deserve to live a peaceful life, an Israeli, a Palestinian, an American, a British , an Arab life is life and should be respected by all. No life is better than the other and that's the way all humanity should see life- an Israeli mother who losses her child shares the same feeling that a Palestinian mother feels.

To bring the Israeli-Palestinian crisis to an end, all nations should stop taking sides. The reality on the ground has over decades proven that taking sides and putting conditions before talking has never worked and will never work and in the interim more innocent lives are being lost.

America in particular should look at their policies towards Palestine, so far nothing that they have done has improved the realities on the ground, you cannot be seen to be taking sides if you want to successfully mediate and broker peace between conflicting parties.

Hamas is a democratically elected government and should be treated as such, refusing to engage Hamas in talks is to a way forward and definitely not an alternative route to peace. Hamas represents a people and their part of te story should be listened to a well.

It saddens my heart to see daily the people that are been killed on both sides.

For those who bring religion into this topic I have this to say to you – All religions stand for peace and against injustice and nobody should try to jutify the killing of any innocent life.

TONY LARUE:

IT WAS BENY WHO CONDUCTED THE OATH PROCEDURES WITH THE GAZANS POLICE (SERVE ALLAH & KILL THE JEWS) "WHAT A RHETORIC" MY BROTHER IN GOD, CHRIST, MOSES & MOHAMMED PEACE BE UPON THEM ALL..

Well for one, he's not president yet. Of course he has commented on all kinds of other things and not so much on this. When he was Senator, before running for President, he was definitely more outspoken against Israel. But then he got some campaign funding from a big Zionist organization. He may be for changing in the US all around or even with the occupation in Iraq, but Palestine is a different ball game.
He is different from other Presidents we've had yes and I want to believe in him so so much. But I also know that he's not a revolutionary president. He's a reformation president. He can't revolutionize anything. Not yet at least. I'm just looking at some of the folks he's put in his cabinet. He's gonna reform. Maybe in his second year as president he'll do something more drastic with foreign policy. But as long as the US is giving Israel weapons, it's sending a clear message.

Gallow, thank you for your comments. We need more of these in these blogs.

ALSO, How come on CNN when a pro-Israel speaker comes on, they let him say everything he needs, never cutting him off or not letting him finish, but when a Palestinian supporter comes on, they cut him off after every other word???

I wish I had satellite TV so I could watch Al Jazeera since CNN is the "best" I can do from NY in terms of TV here to get info. Eh well. Back to BBC.com

Eman,

Excellent perspective and very much welcome. Eman, you and I both know that change must come in the Middle East. we have to bring some common sense in this equation.

Only the very cruel and evil person can look at the plight and suffering of the Palestinians and not emphatize with them. When blacks look at the Palestinian situation they remember South Africa in the 1960's.

Incidentally, and regretably so, Israel had a very secretive and working relationship with South Africa and this is what some blacks still have not forgotten.

Mr obama, it is time for change in the middle east even if it means confronting israel on some issues. Do not worry Mr Obama you have a lot of people behind you and watching your back.

Tony,

Exactly! I've said it before on here. It's not so much about saying who is wrong on this side or that side. It's a matter of trying to figure out a solution. History has screwed both sides. What can be done about the past? Nothing. But we can try and prevent further problems in the present and in the future.

I think another huge problem is that people in the US and around the world alike are watching the wrong news. Folks, stop believing everything you see on TV. Even if you have to read a book or a community news paper, do so. It's better than some of the mind-washing programming they're trying to fed us. Listen to some of the wording they use, the way they say it. It's very much in tune with trying to make us afraid of a certain kind of person and trust another. If Hamas has been label terrorists, fine. Label Israel's activity terrorist as well. Just as what the US did in Afghanistan and Iraq is terrorism. We all keep doing the same things to each other and labeling it accordingly based on our own fears and benefits.
We're all terrorists if you really look at it. Every single country.
It's one thing to defend yourself and another thing to take an eye for an eye over and over again. We've all ended up blind.
No wonder economies are tanking.

obama knows to differentiate between arab terror and israel self-defense

no matter what you terror lovers say

Well, so much for Obama's change rhetoric....

People, meet the new boss....bought and paid for by the same people who brought you the old boss....

Why bomb the money exchanges? How are people going to buy food? Why bomb the mosques? Israel have a right to defend themselves and there is no doubt about this. However, must they destroy a people and a tensely populated place.

They could have waited until the ground invasion and close these places down if they were found to harbor terrorists.

Is israel is doing this indiscriminately? I think we are risking a wider war that may include Iran and this is scary.

I said it in November that israel is not going to make Mr. Obama's inauguration a happy one and I was right.

The situation in Gaza is getting worst and the future is looking very scary. Let me try and set the scene here. What is the desired outcome that is in the interest of all parties? I belief the outcome desired is a free , a secure and safe Country for both Israel and Palestine. The civilians within these areas deserve the same peace and justice that the other civilized populations are enjoying. Rockets and bombs, innocent blood shedding and damage to infrastructure is not going to bring about the desired outcome. No one wants to loose their loved ones, no one wants to live in fear on a daily bases which is what both the Palestinians and Israeli innocent population are undergoing. W e should all put ourselves in the position of those families who cannot sit at a dining table, families who have lost their loved ones, families who have no hope for the future and are living in fear on a day by day basis with no knowledge when peace will come to them, families that are separated, mothers who lost their sons, husbands and properties, children who are constantly crying for help, help that is not forthcoming.

All decent human beings should be saddened with whats happening.

Am sure Israel do not want to see their citizens being killed nor do Palestinians want death at their door steps. War in the form of bombs, siege, continued land crabbing from Israel and the Rockets from Gaza is not a solution instead, it is the weak citizens that suffer the consequences.

What would be a way forward, a way that will bring permanent end to this conflict?
Many have lost hope, many have given up in any truce and history has taught us that hatred for one another and war has not worked and will never work.

What is required is a strong honest unbiased American administration who can step in and hit the nail on the head and that nail is – to take a neutral stand, put the blaming aside, put political fear aside, put religion aside, bring in honesty, dedication and dignity to a negotiating table.

I hope that Obama will not let our expectations down, I hope and pray that he keeps his head above politics and religion and put the preserving of the human dignity and life in the forefront of his intervention.

One advice to Obama is that he should not be afraid to be honest and fair, he should try to disagree to agree and be seen to be doing so by all otherwise he will just be another Bush

My prayers go to all those who are being afflicted by this conflict and pray that God strengthens their resolve and bring an end to this unwarranted human catastrophe- Amen

It will be very disappointed if Obama lateraled himself to the powerful Israel side (like Bush) without paying attention to the poor and disadvantage Palestinian. He need to be neutral and help each side in an equal manner.Peace for peace. Otherwise there is not change.

.

"Why bomb the money exchanges? How are people going to buy food? Why bomb the mosques?"

Tony Larue

11 Mosques so far have been destroyed. 1 University.i hospital 2 schools.banks, gas stations,medical depo. hundreds of homes Police stations Parliament Building.

why would Police be targeted these are to keep peace in Gaza they were trained by European and Arab countries 100 police officers in the first hour of bombardment while they were Graduating 30 of their family Members were killed 150 women and children 2500 wounded all this in few days more of this the next few days..this is not a war this is genocide.

Miriam !!
Arabs Attacked Jews in 1948?/1917??1967? Is that why you feel it is right to strangle Palestinian now?? Should Japan also attack US now? Should Jews kill Germans now? Should Christian kill Jews? ! Should Africans start killing English, Arabs, Germans because they killed there forefathers??

It does not make any sense, but I guess perhaps you believe in "An eye for an eye" so you will keep fighting till all Jews are dead.
But the truth is we are where we are and if Israel does not stop its aggression, occupation, murder, mass killing and treating Palestinians as their shooting targets for settling their political scores time will definitely come.

At the moment America is protecting Israel but the best protection for the future of Israel is peace with its neighbours and not Amercan Power. Almost the entire world bar US knows what Israel is doing is wrong. The Center of power is shifting and that should worry Israel more as this is not 1967.
Roman Empire was very strong once, so was UK, Germans do you think US power will last forever???!!

Gallow,

One advice to Obama is that he should not be afraid to be honest and fair, he should try to disagree to agree and be seen to be doing so by all otherwise he will just be another Bush

Very well said and I do concur. Maybe the warring parties should start blogin in an effort of having meaninful dialogue. .....

Regardless of how it is articulated, the situation is very sad indeed.

My Prayer: Oh God, forgive those who wrong my fellow humans, they do not understand what they are doing, killing from behind a veil of lies. Every life is sacred, muslim or non-muslim: dear God, let me never be complacent about the loss of a single life on either side. Let me be grateful for the beauty that is all around us and respectful of the diversity of people around me. I pray that those who steal the rights and human dignity of others gain the strength to look inside and acknowledge their error: that is when we can hope for peace.

I voted for Obama and he will do the right thing. He should mention that Judaism began nearly 2,800 years before Islam began and we were in the land of Israel first. In fact, we have archaeological digs to prove that Jews were in the land first.

Barack, should invite Abbas and Assad to live in Southern Israel. Let them deal with the daily rockets that have been going on for 8 years.

Barack should call Hamas racists instead of terrorists. That word is too weak and goes in one ear and out the other. Just say no to racism. So sad that so many Muslims hate Jews and Christians simply because of their religion. Just say no to ANSWER, the racist organization that organizes nearly all the hate rallies.

Why doesn’t the media mention that Judaism began nearly 2,800 years before Islam began and Jews were in the land of Israel first? In fact, we have archaeological digs to prove that Jews were in the land first.

If Arabs want to condemn Israel, I feel the Israeli government should invite Abbas and Assad to live in Southern Israel. Let them deal with the daily rockets that have been going on for 8 years.

And finally, Hamas is a racist organization. It is so sad that the racist group ANSWER is organizing these anti-Israel rallies. Spread the word about what is really going on in Israel.

The truth and what is necessary to resolve a situation can be censored until it spirals out of control and bring what will inevitably propose a dooms day situation....... One side believes in a fascist ideology the other holds God's commandments....

Good luck, the world must be sick to allow Hamas and other fascist organisations to be strengthened.

It is a pitty the story needs to be turned into a movie before they can recognise they are building a machine with ideologies similar to Hitler's which ultimately accumalates to the same thing although it is unique!

During the time of events it is not always possible to put together emmotional scenes with sympathetic and sorrowful music. You will have to make your minds up without the movie for now......

America did not see WWII as a threat until it landed on its doorstep, Israel have been dealing with this for a long time now! I am not saying they do not recognise this threat as they are well aware of it.

However the rest of the world propose suggestions to strengthen this machine some I guess unintentionally but it is not hard to read between the lines wink wink........

ALL I HEAR FROM WATCHING CNN THAT THE PALESTINIANS WANT TO AN IMMIDIATE STOP TO THE ISRAELI ATTACK, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY NO ONE SAID A THING ABOUT STOPPING THE ATTACK FROM THE HAMAS ON ISRAEL IN THE PAST WEEKS AND MONTH...

Why haven't we heard anything from our soon to be fearless leader? Because he is torn between two worlds and doesn't want either to chastise him that would put a blemish on his perfect little image that the media has bestowed upon him. I would imagine you can probably expect more of this to come over the next four years. He is exactly like Billy Boy Clinton, to afraid to get his image tarnished, and won't stand up for something he believes in or what is right.

what is obama to say? the truth so the they can call him antisemetic!
why is everyone watching this? how did the israelis get this pass of doing whatever they want comfortably, and get no one dare comment on their actions. how? why do american presidents have to get the jewish community approval before they can get in office! who violated the peace in gaza to begin with? why are these guys not questionable! i dont understand. they are killing elders,women,children, noncombatants! they need to get over themselves!

Joseph, there are people out there, possibly you included, who believe that Israel or the Jews are to blame for everything and initiated any violence. They refuse to believe that an Arab could have ever attacked Jews or Israelis unprovoked.

Israel has always acted in self-defence and have won because they were stronger. Arabs are embarrassed that they lost the first war they started in 1947/48 and are still determined to finish off what they failed to achieve then, the annihilation of Israel.

Neil,

Let me submit one question to you. Who were the original Jews?

Let me give you a hint they are still in this beautiful country called Ethiopia. They are much more peaceful human beings.

They were not white. Moses was not white. Egyptians were not white. Here is a European lie and it is when you go to a church of England you see elaborate paintings of a lilly white Jesus which is a lie.

The whole situation that we are in right now is all built on race. Let the truth be told.

WE SHOULD NOT EXPECT ANYTHING FROM OBAMA. HE IS AN AMERICAN LEADER, THEY ALL FEED ON PALESTIAN BLOOD.HE IS SILENT BECAUSE HE IS HAPPY WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING.

Robin,

I have to disagree with you. HE IS NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE PALESTINIANS. Barack Obama is of African heritage also and he knows suffering. He has seen suffering in the eyes of blacks, poor whites, and other minorities.

No, No, NO, Robin he is not an "American leader" He will be a leader and a beacon for the whole world. I do believe he has the God given talent to change the world. I think his his being elected as President have a very spiritual significance. I do most certainly believe this to be the case.

I do not like suffering of any sort. I feel very sad when I see Israeli seniors and others getting blown up on a bus by suicide bombers while taking the only transportation they can afford.

The only thing Robin, is that there are some unnamed powers who do not want change.

What scares me is that this visionary Obama who happens to be of mixed race may not get the chance to bring about the change people like you an I and others all over the world so desperately need.

May God give Mr. Obama the strength and courage to bring about much needed change because without change we are all doomed,

In regard to your query on how to end war: Why not pass on some evolved knowledge during your broadcasts?

"It is an illusion to think that peace can be attained by strength of arms, it can only be found within yourself by all who are peaceful & defenseless." Deepak Chopra

The website for Peace Is The Way:
http://www.peaceisthewayglobalcommunity.org

"The problems of the world will not be solved on the level of thinking we were at when we created them." Einstein

Think Peace, Be Peace, Live Peace,

Linda (San Diego, CA)

Miriam.
Israel is not acting in self Defense by occupying other people, denying them freedom to life and right to self determination. Gaza is exploding now West bank will be next. Arab anger from previous wars will not wipe out Israel but Israel action will cause the anihilation of Israel

please stop fighting to live in peace