Saudi should learn from Israelis 'a lesson on democracy'.....

Saudis should learn from Israelis ‘a lesson on democracy’…..

'Regional concerns' should be 'lack of freedom' and 'safety of people who want democratic reforms in Saudi Arabia'. Even discussion regarding these things always been off-limits in Saudi autocrats

‘Regional concerns’ should be ‘lack of freedom’ and ’safety of people who want democratic reforms in Saudi Arabia’. Even discussion regarding these things has been off-limits in Saudi autocratic society.

IDF has killed 1000s Palestinians, which we know about, But nobody knows how many have been massacred or suffering in prisons in the Kingdom

"....the status of the U.S-Saudi relationship,........"

I’m pretty much sure……give these dictators an ultimatum that ‘convert all the Muslims or you will be no more stay in power, they will choose the first just to stay in power’

Fawad – This is about beliefs and integrity not general categories and people telling you your beliefs. Right is right and wrong is wrong. It's not complicated. I like everyone. Some think that's terrible. Even here. I still do it.

GLeigh,

I think it is as simple as telling these dictators 'get the hell out......the same way Israelis told to their current leaders'

I thought you were busy and going to do some work.... that was almost an hour ago.... I guess you just felt defeated and you did not have any answers eh?.... LOL

GLeigh,

beliefs and integrity?.... do you have any of those?

I guss you are not a real Christian are you?

I don't think relations between Saudi Arabia and the US are going to change under Obama.... why should they?

Saudi has been a good friend to the US.... and vice-a-versa. Strange bedfellas but they are regardless.

Technically we shouldn't say US-Saudi relations, we should say US-autocracy relations......though it will be little less pleasing but it will be true

Sam – Any history that does not agree with yours is paid for by people in Israel, and any country who refuses to agree with your views are "bedfellas" with the U.S. I don't understand how the U.S. is always part of this stuff in the Middle East. It is a little insulting, in general. I really don't think that the higher powers in Saudi Arabia care about the U.S. opinion or yours. So far, they don't seem concerned.

I think the U.S. is a marshmellow, like a mom, and caring. I think it is a mistake to assume that of everyone.

Sam – I did tell you that you were on my list. I deal with list people. Mostly.

I don't insult Saudi Arabia though.

Fawad Ali -

Do you think they will all leave if you tell them to get the hell out? What does it really take in Saudi Arabia to change the government? Is it possible?

GLeigh,

So, you are calling your garbage a history?.... I don't want you to agree with my history... but show me where you read your history.... when I asked you you mentioned Wiki.... LOL is that where you get your history?.... LMAO

Sam – I read history from books, a variety, and a variety of internet sites. I don't just read from those involved in the issues. Jim – Saudi Arabia is not a new country. I think that they think on their own. Like China or India or some other countries, you have to accept them or not.

Sam – you post sites. I don't read posted sites. I could post one. Look in reference books outside Arab or Israeli sources. Search the internet – though it is probably less neutral.

I have a minor in history. This stuff was never mentioned, but other skirmishes.

GLeigh,

are you going to get your kitchen chores done now or what? You have yet to give me one history book name that you have read.... LOL

I gave you one and you made fun of it. So why bother. To get them in trouble?

If you really are interested do a web search and read.

Assuming you can read anything that might challenge your opinion.

Interesting conversation. Thanks. I need to get back to work.....

GLeigh,

to get them in trouble?.... LOL... LOL.... LOL.... you are so funny.

lindagleigh
honesty , integrity ,and israhell is a black comedy movie.

gleigh
you are intersting too.

GLeigh February 10th, 2009 1619 GMT

Sam – Any history that does not agree with yours is paid for by people in Israel, and any country who refuses to agree with your views are “bedfellas” with the U.S. I don’t understand how the U.S. is always part of this stuff in the Middle East. It is a little insulting, in general. I really don’t think that the higher powers in Saudi Arabia care about the U.S. opinion or yours. So far, they don’t seem concerned.
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GLeigh,

Spam The Human RightsActivist just learned the word "Bedfellas" yesterday when he read an article with the title about Hamas and UNRWA which I posted a link to. Now he's learneda new word and feels the need to use it repeatedly!! Funny, just like a 5yr. old that's learned a new trick!!

i think that the saudis should work more on their internal democracy. they should also update their agenda.

saudis will have also to revise the status of women in the kingdom.

if they want to continue the al saud system of governance, it 's ok, but here too they should shift to a parliamentary kingdom like the case of Morocco. this will be beneficial for both the governor and the governed.

the possibility of israelis and saudis meeting seems impossible for me for the time being. the major obstacle is the religious load that is currently associated with the kingdom.

as far as the saudi-american relations are concerned, i don't think there will be a change with obama election. i guess saudi arabia is a constant in the american politics.

the neutrality of saudis in the conflict may cost the rulers a lot. americans are aware of that, but israel has to facilitate the task too. the gazza massacre has embarrassed the saudis a lot.

i think that the arab peace plan advanced by the saudis is a good one to start thinking about the end of the conflict.

Arabs consider saudi arabia as an essential country in the region, and americans too. i think it should make more efforts to participate in fiding a solution to the conflict.
frankly, it is high time it ended.

the real adversary in the region is iran. saudis will have to show that they can do something for the palestinian cause. iran has done a lot to attract admirors and sympathizers. the way saudis react to the current issue gives gifts to iranians.
if you ask any regular guy in the arb street, he will say that iran should be given a seat in the arb league.

what is today's issue here because i don't see the saudi -american relations an issue at all.

What Israel has offered to the Arab world, to expect a meeting happening between IsraHells and Saudis ?

I think personally that The Saudi -American relations are strong and costructive in all aspects. It would be more then likely to continue on that path. Mutual respect and goals have been clearly identified my the two goverments. All though I dont always agree with thier action as strong leading countries!!

On the other hand the Zionist occupiers do not believe in democracy and could not teach the Saudis much!! The only thing that i can see the Zionist State teaching anyone is how to run A death camp the size of Washington D.C like the one they continue to run in GaZa

On the other hand the Zionist occupiers do not believe in democracy and could not teach the Saudis much!! The only thing that i can see the Zionist State teaching anyone is how to run A death camp the size of Washington D.C like the one they continue to run in GaZa. I would like the Saudis to teach the Zionist State on how to promote prosperity for all. Saudia ranks as one of the largest donor countries of the poor and underprivlleged.

i wonder why my last two postings were not added ??? I think all bloggers should be held to the same standard of letter. This type of policy would let all who believe that everyone should be heard , gets that fair chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i like the fact that we have warm relations with our friends at KSA!!! Thats the way two countries both assuming leadership roles should act.....................!