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September 14, 2009
Posted: 921 GMT

An ancient synagogue discovered in northern Israel may have a Christian connection. CNN's Paula Hancocks reports.

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Filipe   September 23rd, 2009 6:11 pm ET

I guess this is just one more example that John A can cite as propaganda– an attempt to try to make people think that Jews lived in the area in biblical times. I'm surprised he hasn't voiced his bigoted opinion on this issue yet !

Wow this actually predates Arab migration by several centuries !!!!

John A   September 24th, 2009 7:15 pm ET

Filipe sounds like a teenager who is terrified of the truth. Did you listen to the video? Did you hear the part about the only ancient synagogue found outside of Jerusalem? So you still want to pretend that the Jews were the over whelming population? Funny thing is they left very little behind.

A proven fact is there is no historical evidence of the Jews being exiled from Judea. In actual fact there is no historical evidence of any peoples anywhere on earth being completely exiled from their country. Outside of Jerusalem there is very little evidence of ancient Jewish existence. But still the historically frustrated Filipe and his dwindling gang (Miriam & University Rector) pretend that the Jews ruled this area as a majority over 2000 years ago.

There is no historical proof of this, unless like Filipe you easily confuse religious myth with fact. But if you want, you are free to believe that God made the world in seven days, that Moses parted the dead sea and that the Romans exiled an entire nation of Jews. But remember these are religious beliefs and not fact.

So Filipe please return to the blog when you can support your radical views with facts. Cheers and dont worry, all teenagers go through what you are going through at some point. You will grow out of it.

Filipe   September 25th, 2009 7:15 pm ET

John A,

You seem to be the only fool in the world who provides daily rants and diatribes about how the Israelites either never lived in Israel or were never forced to leave Israel.

Hmmm!!! Wonder why that is???

You can deny historical fact all you want- it doesn't make you opinion accurate or factual. It only makes you appear to be the hateful, pi$$ed off racist bigot that you are.

Get over it !!!

Israel exists and it isn't going away-no matter how much you whine and cry about it !!!!!

John A   September 26th, 2009 11:06 am ET

Filipe I do not deny historical fact. I ask for you to provide facts behind your false claims about a forced Jewish exodus from ancient Judea. There is no proof and if you are the first person in the world to have found such proof, please provide it.

Filipe Please provide fact!

miriam   September 29th, 2009 10:59 am ET

John A,

The reason this discovery is important is because it was of a synagogue dating back to a time before synagogues became the place of worship in Israel.
While the Temple was standing, it was the centre for religious worship and fixed houses in communities outside Jerusalem was rare.

The Romans destroyed the Second Temple and bannished the Jews from Jerusalem, thereby exiling them from their religious centre and forcing the population to relocate in other regions within the Roman Empire and beyond.

There are many sources, including Roman, that describe the exile from Jerusalem, such as Tacitus, Josephus, Dio cassius etc (Apart from the numerous Jewish sources that you have a problem believing). There are also sources describing permission for Jews to return which would not have been possible if they hadn't been bannished in the first place.

There is archeological evidence, aswell as written records, of Jewish existance in Israel for centuries, from the North to the South, including Gaza, Judea, Samaria, Gallilee, Golan etc.

university rector   September 29th, 2009 8:28 pm ET

john A

you provide facts, so far all you provide is lies and falsification of history.

Palestinians migrated from the arabian peninsula, that's a fact (according to the link provided by your friend HOPE)

can you counter this fact? No? I thought so

Filipe   October 1st, 2009 6:01 pm ET

John A,

Here's your facts !!!!

type the following into Google and hit the "search" button:

"forced Jewish exodus from Israel"

You will obtain ONE MILLION TWOTHREE HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND links !!!!!

You can read them at your leisure !!!

John A   October 5th, 2009 3:49 pm ET

Filipe you are a real joker. I looked up your google links. The first was about Jews between 1948 until the early 1970s. And no links provide a single shred of evidence concerning a biblical exile of Jews from Judea. So Filipe the facts remain facts i.e. there is no proof that the ancient Jews were ever forced from Judea. This as previously demonstrated remains a biblical story and has no evidence to support it. And University Rector, everyone knows Arabs eventually conquered the Palestinian lands. The Arabs the mixed with the locals. So what. The lineage remains first Canaanite, who converted to Judaism who converted to Islam. No exile ever took place it was a simple matter of religious conversion. And you two clowns have not yet supplied a single document which can support the mad idea that the Romans were able to transport an entire jewish people out of Judea in 70AD.

John A   October 5th, 2009 3:54 pm ET

Miriam you are full of BS stories and no proof. Do you remember your ultra racists claims about Jews having a unique and identifiable DNA. The only two things you, Filipe and Rector have in common is Zionism and BS stories.

miriam   October 6th, 2009 6:45 am ET

John A,

You refuse to accept the proof, Jewish and Roman, of Jews being banned from Jerusalem and Judea. 70 AD was the year of the destruction of the Temple. The banning of Jews came a few years later.

University rector   October 6th, 2009 6:59 am ET

John A

Palestinians migrated from the arabian peninsula, that’s a fact (according to the link provided by your friend HOPE)

So the right of the Arabs to the land are the "fact" that they eventually conquered the land?

Very interesting. And you don't even notice the fallacy of your ramblings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

hahahahahaha

Filipe   October 6th, 2009 10:09 pm ET

John A,

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!

So you Googled--

“forced Jewish exodus from Israel”

and obtained ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND links !!!!!

But you still can't find anything that satisfies your expectations ???

Somehow I'm not surprised-just amused at your belligerence and bigotry.

Maybe it's nothing more than your limited comprehension skills or refusal to accept the truth if it happens to differ from your personal opinion.

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

You don't need facts-- facts only confuse your twisted little mind.

But John A has repeatedly posted his own worthless opinions without one shred of evidence to substantiate claims!!! Is the world just supposed to accept what John A says because he says it ??

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!

John A   October 7th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

I guess "ha ha ha ha ha" must translate from Hebrew to "John A you are right, there is no proof that the Jews were ever exiled".

Guess that explains why Filipe, Rector and Miriam keep on embarrassing themselves with wild claims. They can never provide a single web link which can provide historical or scientific evidence to their stories.

Filipe is "Bwaa" Hebrew for anything, or do you just make that sound when your brain struggles to produce a rational thought?

Hope   October 7th, 2009 3:20 pm ET

That's right genius..1,240,000 Google links on Jewish exodus!..Quantity vs. poor Quality!! All, if not most are JUNK sites. Surely you are aware of it!!...Posted and written by religious fundamentalists, Rabbis and anti Arab jewish propagandists...(I can whip one more for you)...and make it 1,241,000!...Who Cares! The point is, the only true documented historical facts about Jewish migration, are events of the 20th century. Anything prior is pure fiction. Old testament events ARE NOT HISTORICAL FACTS BUT RATHER MYTHOLOGICAL....

Why not let rest this subject and post a link about Ancient Jewish exodus posted by a credible reputable Archeologist or Historians? With proven facts and dates. OK?

Filipe   October 7th, 2009 7:47 pm ET

John A,

You should remember prior to the next posting of your radical gibberish-- since you apparently used Google to view ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND hits you received when you typed in "forced Jewish exodus fro Israel" --and couldn't find a single bit of truth or credible evidence-according to you-- you needn't claim to ever find anything supportive of your thoughts or opinions either.

Amazing how that works-- until now, according to the world of John A, Google was the all knowing gift of truth and knowledge to the entire planet !!!!

What happened ???

university rector   October 7th, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Joh A

and the DNA story of the descendents of the priest has been proven, and no John A antisemitic ramblings and whining can change this fact

Filipe   October 8th, 2009 6:53 pm ET

John A and his Hopeless friend,

I provided you the location and source of the links-– are you simply to lazy to read???
Or too afraid of learning what the rest of civilized society already knows??

I can't help you with that !!!! Seems to be a personal problem.

Filipe   October 8th, 2009 7:10 pm ET

John A,

You and your hopeless friend are comical !!!!

Since i provided you with the location to obtain ONMILLION TWO HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND articles which support the fact that there was forced Jewish exodus from Israel-- yet you respond a diatribe of belligerence and ignorance with--– "Why not let rest this subject and post a link about Ancient Jewish exodus posted by a credible reputable Archaeologist or Historians? With proven facts and dates. OK?"

In your infinite and all knowing wisdom --– Why don't you simply a post a link to a credible "Archaeologist or Historians with proven facts and dates-- which dispute the fact that there was forced Jewish exodus from Israel !!!!

Certainly you can find a credible anti-semitic Archaeologist or Historian to support your claims !!!!!!

Or would that be way too difficult for you???

miriam   October 8th, 2009 7:22 pm ET

Hope and John A,

How narrow minded it is to depend on the world-wide web for all information and proof. No wonder you state that everything pre 20th century is fiction. Get real!

Ever heard of books?

Ever visited archeological sites or museums?

Of course you'd never consider that Jewish records, historians, archeologists aswell as Greek, Roman and early Christian sources may be correct and proven.

Or do you just sit in front of a screen all day googling the latest anti-Israel fantasy releases.

university rector   October 8th, 2009 10:14 pm ET

miriam

you are arguing with ignorami that believe the protocols of zion to be fact, and josephus flavius fiction.

good luck!

John A   October 9th, 2009 11:42 am ET

Dear Miriam, University Rector & Filipe,

Here is your big chance to prove your Zionist claims. Post just one link which is not written by a Rabbi or Zionist. I.E. Just one link from a well respected historical source or one respected scientific source. And please dont chicken out with more excuses.

Miriam we have all heard of books and museums? Why do you ask? Is it because you have tried and failed to find a credible web site which supports Israels claims of mass exile in ancient times.

Miriam do you know that books can be found online and all museums have web sites. Your excuse is made because you can not find any proof to your argument, how pathetic!!!!!!!

And Filipe as you litter this blog with remedial content I will try to make things simple for you. You claim the Jews were exiled by the Romans and now the Jews are returning to their long lost land. I claim that European Jewish have stolen Palestine. It is documented in contemporary history that European Jews with no ancestral connection with Palestine now live in the middle east and have renamed the territory Israel. Or do you deny this?

There is absolutely no proof that these Jews have any connection with Palestine or that their ancestors were ever exiled. YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED ONE WORD TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM AND IT IS YOUR CLAIM.

To claim land rights because people with no biological relation practiced Judaism in a land over 3,000 years ago is insane. Who can provide a 3,000 year old family tree and who knows their exact family origins from 3000 years ago. Answer: nobody. Therefore the Jewish claim to Palestine is fraudulent. All of us could claim that our descendants from 3000 years ago came from the far flung Roman empire. Does this mean we all have the right to claim land in Rome. The concept of Israel is nothing less than a crime. It is theft with the weakest and most obscure argument delivered without a single shred of evidence to support it.

Hope   October 9th, 2009 3:10 pm ET

If so convinced of your godly wisdom, why not exercise some of your gifted generosity and post ONE site written by a scientist or an archeologist (no freaken Rabbis please!) that depicts true events of ancient jewish exodus and is proven by dates, detailed in written texts, narrated in paintings, portrayed in mosaic, crafted in sea vessels, sculpted in pottery or fossilized in rocks...

What's the big deal..you have ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND ACCURATE sites to pick from. Close your eyes..and pick one!!.you can't go wrong :) On a serious note Filipe, I miss your Bwwwaaaaaaaaa's where did they migrate too?

Hope   October 9th, 2009 3:25 pm ET

miriam, you definitely have a point..Goggling anti Israel fantasy is not the way to go..You inspired me to hit the Malibu/Getty this weekend to educate myself on Greek/Roman civilization. Surly an abundant proven history of a Jewish exodus will be recognized as well..Or, is this event so exaggerated so fabricated to a point there is nothing to show for ?..We'll find out, who knows maybe I'll see you there? we can continue this conversation...I'll be wearing a Kaufeya :)

http://www.getty.edu/visit/events/villa.html

Filipe   October 10th, 2009 12:09 pm ET

John A and his Hopeless friend,

Yes- pick one-- there's ONE MILLION TWOHUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND links to pick from!!!!!

You two clowns are the ones who dispute the facts and refuse to accept the evidence!

How do you think Judaism made its' way to Europe??? Osmosis???

Bwwwwaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!

And it was you, the Hopeless one who manged to post the link which verifies that 'ARABS' migrated throughout the ME from the ARABIAN PENINSULA !

Ah ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!

How did you two clowns manage to land yourselves in the US???

Where did you or your family migrate from??? Europe?? Asia??

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!

And you want to be critical of people in a sovereign country who reside on the opposite side of the planet about their immigration policies! Give me a friggin' break!

You two are about as funny as the Obamessiah and his sidekick Hillbilly demanding that Jews who own property on the "wrong" side of the green line can't build homes or businesses there simply because of their religion !!!!!

Talk about fantasy land !!!!

miriam   October 10th, 2009 6:41 pm ET

John A and Hope,

Tacitus, Eutychius, Dio Cassius, Monteverde Catacomb etc are not good enough for you. Nor is the piles of archaeological evidence in Jerusalem and museums and all over the world.

What a nice way to describe Rabbis. Most tolerant. Says it all really.

There are many Jews who have family trees that reach back well over 1000 years.
And so what.
It is Judaism that is undisputedly connected to Jerusalem and the Land of Israel.
There is plenty of evidence and both of your attempts to delegitimize Judaism is outrageous.

Filipe   October 11th, 2009 9:51 am ET

HOpe,

Yea-– southern California would be the first place I'd look for historical and archaeological facts on ancient Roman and Greek civilization !!!

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!

Talk about fantasy land!

Maybe you'll see your best buddy John A there as well-since you live in the same neck of the woods !!

Hope   October 12th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

Yes, southern Ca has a diverse tapestry of museums ranging from ancient collections to contemporary..In fact, the Los Angeles County Museum of Art houses one the most significant collection of Islamic art in the world...The Getty Center and The Getty Villa are homes to some impressive collection of Greek Roman antiquities..Filipe, if your perception is narrow, pertaining to (this side of the woods) it is stemming out of ignorance. Understandably.

Filipe   October 12th, 2009 7:44 pm ET

Hope,

Like I said--southern California would be the first place I’d look for historical and archaeological facts on ancient Roman and Greek civilization !!!

But I guess it will have to do if you can't see the real thing.

Did they have anything to corroborate your theory that there was never any forced exodus of Jews from Israel??

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!

Hope   October 14th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

Get down to earth for second miriam. Where is the CONCRETE EVIDENCE of massive forceful Jewish exodus. You have presented NONE!!!

The link (below) relates to one of your list names, (Monteverde Catacomb).. In summery; Integrating Judaism within certain limits in the Greco Roman Culture, and having Jewish catacombs in Imperial Rome are not concrete proof of Jewish exodus. Words like ancient Diaspora without trail of evidence leads to no where... btw, Interestingly how the article recognizes Palestine, on page 11.

http://books.google.com/books?id=IRAKQ0J7gG8C&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=Monteverde+Catacomb&source=bl&ots=Ye4ObrAxih&sig=YNLi8OtU8w6hhUVHXimEC0vz37I&hl=en&ei=4ZrUSoXrC4S2swPm6_jMCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CA4Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Monteverde%20Catacomb&f=false

Can you please provide archeological..or ANY kind of data maybe written as a diary sequencing the steps of the journey of the exodus, and is published somewhere in a Jewish Archives. We need to read. Otherwise, no evidence, no exodus.

People scatter, people migrate and people convert. Voluntary or involuntary migration of any human population is how the world is being transformed. In fact, historical migration of human populations begins with the movement of Homo erectus out of Africa across Eurasia (Europe and Asia). Jews are not unique or the exception, just part of the human population who took part in this migration. But an exodus? don't think so.

Hope   October 14th, 2009 1:54 pm ET

Filipe...3 hours later at the Getty and not ONE single shred of evidence demonstrating the legendary exodus took place. Z-E-R-O!!!..The exodus story has NO merit in museums here or elsewhere. And with each passing generation, it will be yet another fictional myth going down in history as one more jewish folk tale.

Sorry you have to resolve to mockery when defeated, as your posts seems to suggests. No evidence, No exodus. The End.


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