Damage and looting of downtown shops occurred after protesters clashed with riot police during a protest against the government-imposed blockade, in Turin, Italy, on October 26, 2020.  The protest is organized  to protest against the blockade to restaurant and bars and curfew imposed in the Piedmont Region and by the Italian Government of the evening lockdown which will start from today at 6pm to contain the coronavirus pandemic. (Photo by Mauro Ujetto/NurPhoto via Getty Images)
Protests in Italy over anti-virus measures turn violent
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Workers of the world! Listen up.

Half of Chicago’s rank-and-file cops could be off the street. Their union doesn’t want to be required to disclose their vaccine status. Also, 120 cops in San Francisco refused to comply with that city’s vaccine mandate.

Thousands are protesting in Italy over a strict new vaccine requirement. Many of them work at the docks, which is not the news anyone who’s been nervously reading about the global supply chain wanted to hear. Up to 40% of workers at one port haven’t gotten the shot, according to their union, says CNN’s report.

The requirement in Italy is that anyone on a payroll, public or private, must have a recently certified vaccination, recovery from infection or a negative test within 48 hours. There’s an app for all this, which would make everything so much easier but is something we are unwilling to entertain here in the US.

Italy’s government says 81% of the eligible population is vaccinated, so these protests are giving us a good indication of where the vaccination holes are in that country. A “green” pass in their app has been required for certain trains, indoor restaurants, museums and gyms since September 1.

This requirement for work, however, is what’s caused the protests, and it comes just as the Biden administration is looking to push its own requirement, through the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, that the vaccine is a matter of public safety.

I wish it were possible to know how many additional people got the vaccine due to the requirement as opposed to protest. I would be willing to wager that a much larger number simply got the shot.

It’s the holdouts who make the headlines

There are already requirements in the US, for many companies, in certain states and cities, and hospital chains. And there is invariably a small minority of people who choose to leave their job rather than get vaccinated. It may be a larger than small minority at some Italian ports.

Southwest’s pilot union filed for a temporary restraining order against that company’s vaccine requirement. A day later, the airline was forced to cancel thousands of flights, although both the pilots and the airline say the two things are not related. The pilots aren’t necessarily opposed to the requirement, but they want to address it in their contract rather than simply accept it.

“We’ve had almost zero discussions with them over the past 10 months of what we all knew was coming, which was a mandate,” Casey Murray, president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, told NPR.

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AFL-CIO President Liz Shuler stopped short of full-throated endorsement of a blanket vaccine requirement during a Q&A at the National Press Club Wednesday.

“We think everyone should be vaccinated,” she said. “And we think that the union has a role to play in negotiating that at the table.”

Opposing requirements altogether

The war over vaccine requirements has gotten so political that one Ohio congressman, Republican Rep. Jim Jordan, suggested ending all vaccine requirements of any kind.

That particular idea seems completely bananas given the billions of lives vaccines have saved worldwide and the heretofore relatively uncontroversial requirement for school kids to be inoculated against polio, tetanus, measles, mumps, rubella and more.

But at the same time it seems very likely, if completely insane, that Americans will emerge from the Covid pandemic with fewer vaccine requirements, not more.

Some people will never be convinced

CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta, a neurosurgeon, spent three hours in a sound booth with Joe Rogan, the influential podcaster, MMA personality and vaccine skeptic.

Neither man changed their mind as a result of the experience. Rogan seized on the extremely remote chance kids can get myocarditis, a temporary heart inflammation. Gupta argued that danger is more remote than serious illness from the virus. Read Gupta’s account here.

“I guess a small part of me thought I might change Joe Rogan’s mind about vaccines,” he writes. “After this last exchange, I realized it was probably futile. His mind was made up, and there would always be plenty of misinformation out there neatly packaged to support his convictions. Truth is though, I am still glad I did it. My three-hour-long conversation wasn’t just with Rogan. If just a few of his listeners were convinced, it will have been well worth it.”

Solidarity of one

One person whose teammates ultimately think will get vaccinated, but who will for now forego millions of dollars to skip it, is Nets player Kyrie Irving, whose opposition continues to be very interesting to me.

He’s holding out in solidarity with people losing their jobs rather than get vaccinated, he said in an Instagram broadcast.

“Just know that I’m rocking with all those that have lost their jobs to this mandate, and I’m rocking with all those that chose to get vaccinated and are choosing to be safe, as well,” Irving said. “I’m on both sides of all this. I support and respect everybody’s decision.”

Except he’s not on both sides. He’s refusing to get vaccinated.

Trying to make sense of Irving’s opposition, and failing, writer Brian Phillips wrote at the Ringer about the politics of vaccines and argued it’s possible to imagine conservatives pushing vaccines and liberals opposing them.

I thought this was interesting:

“A conservative case for mandates would look a lot like the case conservatives made for, say, the Patriot Act—something like, ‘in the face of a grave threat, we must give up a little freedom to protect our nation.’ he writes. “And the liberal case against mandates is so obvious that it’s the case conservatives are now literally making, having co-opted, with a kind of giddy hypocrisy, ‘my body, my choice’ rhetoric from the left.”

Related: There have been developments in the court challenge to the Texas abortion law that allows private citizens to sue people who enable abortions. The most recent decision allows the law to go forward for now.

There are strikes going in the US right now

What Americans are not yet on strike about – except for Irving and the people leaving jobs rather than get vaccinated – is the vaccine.

They are considering strikes related to the pandemic.

Nurses for Kaiser in California and Oregon have threatened to strike overpay and work conditions.

You could argue the pandemic is achieving what Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and other progressives have long sought – workers who feel the power to demand higher wages and better working conditions.

Robert Reich, former Labor Secretary during the Clinton administration, says that while most Americans aren’t actively part of a union, what you’re seeing in data about millions of Americans quitting their jobs and slow to return to the workforce is a sort of disorganized collective movement alongside the actual labor strikes we’re seeing around the country.

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“You might say workers have declared a national general strike until they get better pay and improved working conditions,” Reich writes at The Guardian.

“No one calls it a general strike. But in its own disorganized way it’s related to the organized strikes breaking out across the land – Hollywood TV and film crews, John Deere workers, Alabama coal miners, Nabisco workers, Kellogg workers, nurses in California, healthcare workers in Buffalo.”