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[08:00:00] KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN NEWS STREAM SHOW HOST: Kristie Stout in Seoul and welcome to "News Stream." North Korea eases off in the rhetoric
after threatening to fire missiles near the island of Guam.
Pyongyang says it will wait and see what the U.S. does before making its next move, but an advisor to South Korea's president tells me the standoff
with the North is the most tense it's ever been in decades.
And we'll go to Guam, the target of North Korea's threats and the home to more U.S. servicemen and women per capita than any other U.S. state or
territory.
I'm here live in South Korea's capital. All week is a tense time on the peninsula. And over the next few days, we will continue to explore all
angles of the crisis and hear from experts in the region about how strong words from both North Korea and the United States are affecting the
situation.
North Korea's threats against the U.S. seemed to have calmed down a little for now. A report says Kim Jong-un is holding off a plan to fire missiles
near the U.S. territory of Guam, opting instead to watch what the so-called "foolish Yankees" will do. That appears to refer to next week's U.S.
military drills with South Korea.
Meanwhile, the U.S. military's top official has arrived in China after talks with the South Korean counterpart. Earlier, U.S. Defense Secretary
James Mattis warned if North Korea attacks the U.S., it's game on. Let's bring in Paula Hancocks. She is also in Seoul. Paula, that announcement
from KCNA today, is Kim Jong-un putting the Guam plan on ice for now?
PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie, what North Korea had promised to do was to have a plan to be able to fire four
missiles into the waters of Guam by mid-August. They have done that. According to KCNA statement media, Kim Jong-un has received that plan. He
has pulled over it with his generals and now he is waiting to see what the Americans are going to do next.
So, it's not necessary a case that he has pulled back, he has done what he said he would do, but we have seen what appears to be a bit of a breather
from the North Korean side and also from the U.S. side on Monday, that op- ed in "The Wall Street Journal" from the two top diplomats saying diplomacy economic measures are first and foremost, what they're focusing on, they do
have to have a viable military option, but that's a last resort.
So, really two days that we have seen a slight pull back from both sides, appears to be a bit of a breather at least for the Korean peninsula. But as
you say, looking ahead to those joint military drills between the U.S. and South Korea next week, that's potentially what North Korea's leader is
talking about when he says, let's see what the "stupid Yankees," as he called them do, the drills always annoying North Korea, but the U.S. has
insisted they will go ahead with them. Kristie.
LU STOUT: We have a bit of a breather right now, perhaps an opportunity for diplomacy. We heard that pointed message from President Moon today. That
seemed to be directed to the U.S., saying that no military action is possible without the consent of Seoul. Is the U.S. on board with that?
HANCOCKS: According to President Moon, the U.S. is completely on board with it. It was an interesting speech. It's Liberation Day here, so 72 years
since the liberation of Korea from Japanese colonization. North and South Korea are actually celebrating the same thing for once. But President Moon
said it was very important that everyone know that under his rule, there is no way that would be a second Korean war.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MOON JAE-IN, PRESIDENT OF SOUTH KOREA (through translator): Military action on the Korean peninsula can only be decided by South Korea. No one else can
decide to take military action without the consent of South Korea.
The government has put everything on the line and will block the war by all means.
I call upon the North Korean government. Without international cooperation and co-existence, economic development is impossible. If you continue on
this path, there will only be international isolation and a dark future.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANCOCKS: We heard from President Moon a couple of times over the past couple of days and on both occasions, he has specified and insisted that
South Korea and the United States are on the same page. Kristie.
LU STOUT: Paula Hancocks reporting for us live. Thank you, Paula. In that speech early today, we heard from the South Korean president, Moon Jae-in,
saying that his government will go all account to prevent war.
Earlier here in Seoul,
[08:05:00] I spoke to his special advisor, Moon Chung-in, who tells me that tension with the North is the worst he has seen in decades. Here's our
conversation.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
MOON CHUNG-IN, SPECIAL ADVISOR TO SOUTH KOREAN PRESIDENT: Our president made it very clear to President Trump that we do not want second war on the
Korean peninsula. I think that is a very strong message to President Trump.
LU STOUT: It's still early on in the Trump presidency. We know that he is unpredictable. He is unscripted. There may be strategic coherence for now,
but that confusion can return. Does that concern South Korean officials?
CHUNG-IN: Of course. However, it will be continuation of strategic coherence, because to have gone through the trial and error and now we come
to the final picture of how to deal with North Korea, it is through dialogue and peaceful means. Therefore, I think that the United States will
adhere to that tradition.
LU STOUT: You have seen and work through decades of brinkmanship. Is the worst you have ever seen it?
CHUNG-IN: I've seen one of the worst other than 1976 when there was so- called (INAUDIBLE) in Panmunjom. That was very serious situation (ph). There was so-called allegation of defense condition what you called
(INAUDIBLE) situation. But apart from that one, (INAUDIBLE) constitution is the most serious situation.
LU STOUT: Everyone wants meaningful dialogue and wants diplomacy and wants a peaceful solution, but this is a different beast. North Korea has ICBM.
North Korea, according to intelligence assessment, has miniaturized nukes. So, do we have to take a different attack now?
CHUNG-IN: North Korea is now a country with nuclear weapons. And for me, that was delivery capability. That is a reality. We should come out with
strategies to deal with that reality. We cannot rely on old strategies which was aiming at North Korea which did not have nuclear weapons.
But now, North Korea has nuclear weapons, then we should come up and set up strategies to deal with it. In other words, if we want North Korea to give
up its nuclear weapons, then we should (INAUDIBLE) incentives.
It is time for us, meaning South Korea, Japan, The United States, China, Russia, all together to come up with some kind of package of incentives to
make North Korea give up its nuclear weapons. It is not easy.
LU STOUT: No, it won't be easy. A lot of people including myself, outside looking in when we come to Seoul, really surprised how relax people are
about the North Korean threat here. Seoul is only 40 kilometers away the DMZ. Should people be more concerned about the threat?
CHUNG-IN; If we are more concerned, then we become hostage of North Korean threat. Therefore, it is not a good idea. We also have American, you know,
help, American protection. That is one of advantages for us. And third one, it is better for us to be normal than abnormal in dealing with North Korean
crisis.
I think there is a good way of dealing with North Korea. Suppose South Koreans become panicked, packing up and moving countryside and whatever,
(INAUDIBLE) Korea. And the North Korea will be capitalizing on that panic situation. Therefore, what South Koreans doing is a correct thing.
LU STOUT: Today is Liberation Day in South Korea. It is the anniversary of the end of Japanese colonial occupation. It is a holiday that is celebrated
in both North and South Korea. Do you feel that despite the level of tension that there is still this point of unity between the two Koreas this
day?
CHUNG-IN: We are same people, same Korean. We will have -- even though we had (INAUDIBLE) over time, but we are still same people. We use the same
language, we share same history. Therefore, you know, we have enough commonality. We have a common goal.
LU STOUT: And that common goal being?
CHUNG-IN: Unified Korea.
LU STOUT: Yes.
CHUNG-IN: Peaceful unification.
LU STOUT: Yes.
CHUNG-IN: And peace on the Korean peninsula. Prosperity on the Korean peninsula.
LU STOUT: Are Koreans thinking about peace to stay?
CHUNG-IN: Of course. Peace is the most precious item for us. Peace and prosperity are common goals for both North and South Korea.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
LU STOUT: And that was top South Korean president aide Moon Chung-in speaking to me here in Seoul on Liberation Day. We are following
developments all across the region. CNN's Erin McLaughlin is standing by in Tokyo.
But first, let's go to David McKenzie in Hong Kong. David, we know that General Dunford, the top U.S. military chief is there in China. He must
have had a pretty interesting meeting there. I mean, how does he ask a trade rival to get tough on North Korea?
DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, certainly, it will be an interesting meeting and often those meetings
[08:10:00] don't develop many news lines out of them because it is such a careful relationship, the military have of both China and the U.S. But the
meeting does come at this time of heightened tension on the Korean peninsula.
Of course the latest news, not just that meeting of military minds, but the move by President Trump in the U.S. to at least kick off what possibly
could be tighter trade relationship with China, President Trump calling on his trade representative to look into investigating formerly the issue
particularly of U.S. copyright issues within China for a long time.
As you know, Kristie, companies in China, U.S. companies have complained that they are losing out because of the atmosphere within China and alleged
that there has been wholesale stealing of the corporate secret, something that China has repeatedly denied and today again said that they are gravely
concerned with this move by President Trump.
But it is a on some level a watered-down version or a less intense version of what we expected say a week ago from the U.S. administration. So, it
appears to be some breathing room for China and the U.S. to deal with the important geopolitical issues facing the region at this time. Kristie.
LU STOUT: David McKenzie there. Now, let's go from Hong Kong to Tokyo where Erin McLaughlin is standing by. Erin, President Trump spoke to leader of
Japan by phone earlier today. What is their priority right now in the face of the threat from North Korea?
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Kristie, the conversation lasted around 30 minutes. Prime Minister Abe briefing reporters after the
phone call, saying that they had a frank discussion and that they both agree that the most important priority going forward is to prevent a
missile launch on Guam. Take a listen to what Prime Minister Abe had to say earlier today.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SHINZO ABE, PRIME MINISTER OF JAPAN (through translator): Through a firm partnership between Japan and the U.S. in cooperating with China, Russia,
and the international community, we agreed that our priority was to work to ensure that North Korea does not launch more missiles.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MCLAUGHLIN: They also discussed the U.S.-Japan alliance, something that is expected to come into sharper focus later this week when the Japanese
defense and foreign ministers travel to Washington D.C. to meet with their U.S. counterparts.
They are going to be discussing ways to strengthen that alliance. At the moment, Japanese diplomats being very tight-lipped in terms of the types of
concrete things, concrete steps they are going to be taking to strengthen that alliance because military is a very sensitive topic here in Japan.
We know that Prime Minister Abe has long been pushing for the military to have a great role. He has been pointing to this threat in North Korea. But
that is really divided public opinion here in Japan. Many people remember World War II, the lessons from that conflict. Today is, after all, Kristie,
the 72nd anniversary of the Japanese surrender.
LU STOUT: History looming over events to see from Tokyo. Let's go back to Hong Kong. David McKenzie is standing by. David, of course, sanctions are
very critical component of trying to rein in the North Korean threat. China began that complete import ban on North Korean steel and seafood today.
What impact does that going to have on North Korea?
MCKENZIE: It can have a major impact in the medium term. Second, the first few weeks, those items on the ban list that are being processed by customs
can still come in, but the bigger picture here, Kristie, of course is that China has wanted to look very keen in enforcing those sanctions, the latest
round of sanctions from the U.N. Security Council, and the advance all mineral imports into China from North Korea and seafood imports as well as
other items coming in.
It is a little unclear at this stage how big a dent this will make on the North Korean economy, but certainly China being the biggest trading partner
of North Korea, this will be a significant blow, symbolic at first, but potentially very significant in the medium term.
LU STOUT: David McKenzie live for us in Hong Kong. Erin McLaughlin live in Tokyo. Big thank you to you both.
North Korea's sudden progress in its missile program has been raising a lot of questions. Now, a new one. Could Pyongyang had gotten its hands on
technology developed by the Soviet Union? We got more on that next. Plus, we told you last week about that Google engineer
[08:15:00] fired over his controversial memo on diversity. Now, he is speaking to CNN, what he says is the real reason why.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
LU STOUT: Live picture there of the Gwanghwamun Gate here in Seoul. You're watching a very special edition of "News Stream" live from Seoul and a very
day when both North and South Korea share something. A national holiday. It is Liberation Day in both countries today. The Korean peninsula celebrates
the end of Japanese occupation.
North Korea has been pumping resources, interested in nuclear program for decades, but recently went from a string of missile failures to
successfully testing an intercontinental ballistic missile that experts say could reach the U.S. A new study says that Pyongyang could have gotten its
hands on rocket engines from black market and those engines would likely produce by Ukrainian factory that operated during the Soviet missile
program.
David Sanger is a political national security analyst for CNN. He has reported on the story for "The New York Times." He joins us now live.
David, thank you so much for joining us here on "News Stream." This is a fascinating notion that North Korea has achieved its sudden missile success
because it acquired the technology from Ukraine. Have you seen the evidence? Is this true?
DAVID SANGER, CNN POLITICAL AND NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: It certainly the leading theory right now about how this happened and maybe it is worth
pacing through for a minute how people have come to this conclusion. You may remember that Kim Jong-un visited and was photographed visiting one of
the preparation areas for these missiles.
And there were photographs taken the time of the missiles, including from the end, basically from the bottom of the missile, which was on its side at
the time. That enabled the analysts to do some very careful work figuring out the diameter and structure of this missile and they quickly came to the
conclusion that it was a derivative of an old Soviet design later used by Russian forces called BRD 250.
And that got rid of a lot of other options. And that missile isn't made in very many places. One of them is an underused Ukrainian factory that of
course was part of the Soviet Union, the Soviet days, and continue to produce for the Russians until about three years ago when the Ukrainian
revolution happened. And that is why there is particular suspicion, because that factory is also at the edge of bankruptcy, also at the edge of that
Russian insurgency in eastern Ukraine.
LU STOUT: If we believe this report and put the emphasis on North Korea, is acquiring or stealing or somehow buying technology through
[08:20:00] black markets or from Ukraine, et cetera, is there also a danger of underestimating North Korea? I mean, could the North had built the
engine myself?
SANGER: Interesting question because it builds up a significant capability, but look at the timing here. They first tested and demonstrated this engine
in September and it is a quite complex piece of technology, making the leap from intermediate to ICBM.
They then conducted these tests successfully including the two in July. That is a very compact period of time in which to be doing this, much more
compact that United States or the Soviet Union when it was developing ICBM. They needed some help on this.
They have a long history of getting help. It cooperated with the Russians before. Other engines that they bought for other missiles have been Russian
design. And of course they have gotten a good deal of material from China and there is a subgroup of people who believe this one also could have had
some Chinese help and perhaps it did, particularly in the fuel which again is produced only in a few places.
LU STOUT: And as a result, North Korea's missile program has rapidly advanced. In the space of of one month, two ICBM tests. And you wonder what
could be done to pull that program back in terms of cyber.
You know, you reported on President Obama's cyber sabotaged campaign on North Korea that took place in 2014. That caused a number of North Korean
missile launches to fail. Is there any way to revive or bring back that cyber campaign now?
SANGER: Well, certainly, there are many in the intelligence community who are looking at bringing back that cyber campaign now. One of the
interesting questions is, why it is working pretty effectively through the fall of last year?
It doesn't appear to be working with these new designs. And one answer could well be that the United States and its allies had gotten into the
supply chain of the older designed missiles better than they got in the supply chain of newer ones.
That doesn't mean there are not new vulnerabilities here that they exploit, but it may take a while. One of the things we learned about cyber
operations is they are temporary. What works on Thursday may not work the following Monday as designs change, your access to networks change.
LU STOUT: So now we have this rapidly advancing North Korea that has ICBM and has if the intelligence assessments are correct, miniaturize nukes. It
also carried out on its own effective cyber strikes. What is your assessment of the overall threat? The overall strength of North Korea's
arsenal today?
SANGER: It is still pretty small. They have not demonstrated that they can get a warhead that is survivable as it reenters the atmosphere. That's a
key technology to making an ICBM work. We do not know for fact that they have shrunk a weapon with size that can fit inside that warhead, but you
have to assume that if they have it now, they will do that in the next year or two. They don't have a very large arsenal.
But remember, they may not need a large arsenal, because the purpose here is not to go strike L.A. They know what would happen immediately after
that. The purpose here is to preserve the regime by deterring the United States or any of its allies from messing with North Korea because it has
got nuclear weapons. Their goal may be significantly more limited than what would be required if you were trying to build up a full-scale nuclear
program.
LU STOUT: All right. David Sanger, I really appreciate you putting the North Korean weapons into context for us. Thank you so much. Take care.
SANGER: Thank you. Great to be with you.
LU STOUT: Now, Pyongyang is no stranger to cyber warfare, as you heard in our discussion just now. It has been linked to several high-profile hacks
including, as you remember, the WannaCry ransomware virus that infected computers worldwide back in May.
Experts say a hacking group linked to Pyongyang was apparently to blame that attack demanded payment in Bitcoin from its victims. In December of
last year, South Korea says the North hacked its military intranet and linked confidential information.
And the Russian cyber security firm Kaspersky linked North Korea to a cyber heist on Bangladeshi central bank in March 2016, got away with tens of
millions of dollars. And finally, in 2014, the FBI says that North Korea was behind the Sony pictures hack.
We will have more on North Korea a little bit later in the program. But now, we are hearing from the Google engineer who was fired over his
controversial memo on diversity. You may remember that he claimed that women are less suited
[08:25:00] for certain tech jobs for biological reasons. Google CEO and plenty of other people accused him of advancing harmful stereotypes. But in
an interview with CNN's Laurie Segall, he stood by his words.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
LAURIE SEGALL, CNN SENIOR TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: I read that you said you felt misrepresented. How do you feel misrepresented?
JAMES DAMORE, FORMER GOOGLE ENGINEER: A lot of what the media has been saying is that I am anti-diversity, I think that women are less capable of
being engineers, and that's just really false. I simply say that if we want to fix the gender representation issue then we should look at how the
population differs and so we can make tech actually better for a lot more women.
SEGALL: Why do you believe you were fired?
DAMORE: Well, I think that it was a P.R. move by Google, primarily. There was a lot of pressure externally and by some of the very zealous followers
of this ideology to get me fired.
SEGALL: It certainly seems so in the memo, or at least what a Google CEO said was you weren't fired for having different ideology, but you were
fired for some of your statements on women.
DAMORE: Yes. I mean, he can say whatever he wants but that's not the true case.
SEGALL: Computer science -- it hasn't always been dominated by men. It wasn't until 1984 that the number of women studying computer science
started falling. So how does that fit into your argument as to why there aren't more women in tech?
DAMORE: So there are several reasons for why it was like that. Partly, women weren't allowed to work other jobs so there was less freedom for
people. And also, it was simply different kinds of work. It was more like accounting rather than modern day computer programming.
And it wasn't as lucrative so part of the reason so many men go into tech is because it's high-paying. I know of many people at Google that they
weren't necessarily passionate about it, but it was what would provide for their family and so they still work there.
SEGALL: You say those jobs are more like accounting. I mean, look at Grace Hopper who pioneered computer programming. Margaret Hamilton who created
the first ever software which was responsible for landing humans on the moon. Katherine Johnson, Mary Jackson, Dorothy Vaughan, they were
responsible for John Glenn accurately making his trajectory to the moon. Those aren't accounting-type jobs.
DAMORE: Yes. So there were select positions that weren't and women are definitely capable of being top-end programmers.
SEGALL: Do you believe those women were outliers?
DAMORE: No, I'm just saying that there are confident women programmers. There are many at Google and the women at Google aren't any worse than the
men at Google. But I'm saying that there were many positions that were listed as coding that are different than what coding currently is.
SEGALL: Do you think there are more, almost undercover conservative or undercover alt-right folks? I mean, people who are kind of afraid to speak
up in Silicon Valley?
DAMORE: Yes, there are many conservatives that are in the closet, quite literally, in Silicon Valley. I mean, I'm a centrist and I still can't
express many of my views.
SEGALL: All right. Are some of the, as you call it, in the closet conservatives reaching out to you, and if so, why? I'd be curious to know
what are they saying.
DAMORE: They largely agree with much of what I'm saying and many have either left Google because the culture is very alienating towards them or
are thinking about it because it's so bad. They don't feel like they can bring their whole selves to Google and that that is the psychologically
unsafe environment where you feel like you have to constantly self-censor yourself and you have to stay in the closet and mask who you really are.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
LU STOUT: OK. So, in response to Damore's claim that Google is psychologically unsafe for conservatives. The company said this in the
statement quote, an important part of our culture is lively debate. But like any workplace, that doesn't mean that anything goes, unquote.
Damore also said that he does not support the alt-right and said that it is unlikely he will participate in upcoming anti-Google protest as being
planned.
You're watching "News Stream" coming to you live from Seoul. Coming up, Donald Trump finally condemns white supremacist groups after Saturday's
violence in Charlottesville, Virginia. But for some, his response is too little too late. More on how the nation is reacting just ahead.
[08:30:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN ANCHOR: All right, you're watching News Stream. Coming to you live from Seoul here in the South Korean Capital all week at
intense time in Peninsula, I'm Kristie Lu Stout. Here are the headlines.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: A North Korean media said that Kim Jong-un is holding off on a plan to fire missiles near the U.S. territory of Guam. A report says that
Kim is waiting to see what the so-called foolish Yankees do next.
Now this comes just hours after the U.S. defense chief said, it's game on, if North Korea attacks in the U.S. territory.
At least 245 people have been killed in mudslides and flooding in Sierra Leone, although Red Cross expects that number to rise. Rescue crews are
searching for 600 people who were still unaccounted for.
The devastation was triggered by days of heavy rain. Three prominent CEOs are quitting. U.S. President Donald Trump's manufacturing council.
One of them comes linked his decision to Mister Trump's failure to explicitly condemn white supremacists for two days after the violence in
Virginia.
The CEOs of Merck, Intel and Under Armour have all resigned from the Council.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: On Monday, President Trump did finally call out white supremacists groups by name over the deadly violence in Charlottesville but
the public outrage persists.
Jeff Zeleny joins us now from Trump Tower in New York with more. And Jeff, last night, many protesters there, what's the scene this morning?
JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Kristie, there were protesters here greeting from last night as he arrived at Trump Tower for
the first time in some seven months.
He is waking up here at Trump Tower today for the first time has president. But the controversy that started over the weekend, over the Charlottesville
attacks still follows him here to New York.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
ZELENY: Only hours after attempting to quell the outrage over his initial response to the deadly violence in Charlottesville, President Trump
retweeting the prominent supporter and conspiracy theorist. The president's retweet originated from Jack Posobiec, a prolific social media
user at the anti-Defamation League says is a member of the so-called alt- light.
The ADL says the movement rejects overt white supremacist views, but embraces misogyny and xenophobia.
The ADL has also highlighted Posobiec's frequent anti-Muslim tweets and harassment of former Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin. Posobiec was
granted access to the White House press briefing in May.
JACK POSOBIEC, AMERICAN ALT-RIGHT: President, Seth Rich -- can we talk about talk about Seth Rich?
ZELENY: The Soviet has peddled a number of debunked conspiracy theories online, including a baseless story that the Democratic National Committee
was behind the death of former staffer Seth Rich.
The claim was the subject of a Fox News story that is since been retracted and deleted. And the Pizzagate hoax which alleges that top Democrats were
operating a child sex trafficking ring out of the D.C. pizza shop during last year's campaign.
On Monday, the president caved to pressure condemning white supremacist and other hate groups by name.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-
Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.
[08:35:00] ZELENY: CNN has learned that the president insisted on addressing the economy before making these additional remarks which came
two days after the death of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President, can you explain why you did not condemned those hate groups by name or allegiance?
TRUMP: They have been condemned. They have been condemned.
ZELENY: Hours later, shortly before leaving the White House, the president took aim at the media for the controversies that is now cost him the
support of three CEOs on his American manufacturing council.
The CEO of Intel, becoming the third business leader to step down, saying in part, I resigned because I want to make progress, while many in
Washington seem to be more concerned with attacking anyone who disagrees with them.
The presidents do over also does not appear to have been enough for thousands of protesters who line on the streets outside of Trump Tower, a
head of Mister Trump's arrival last night.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
ZELENY: Now more protesters are expected here today at Trump Tower. Of course New York City is a city that President Trump loves.
The voters of the city do not love him certainly as much. But he's going to be working here for the next two days, talking about his infrastructure
plan.
But, Kristie, still hanging over him as the controversy from the Charlotte attack -- Charlottesville attack over the weekend here and his response,
there was no response to it. Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yes, for a lot of people too little too late. Jeff Zeleny reporting live from Trump Tower, New York, thank you. You're watching News
Stream.
And straight ahead, the Pacific Island of Guam is under direct threat on North Korea because of the U.S. military bases but many of the people
living under that threat don't enjoy some of the something, like other U.S. citizens. We'll explain and take you there, next.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
LU STOUT: All right, live scenes in Down Town Seoul. Welcome back, you're watching News Stream live from the South Korean Capital. All week, we are
live from Seoul at a tense time on the Korean Peninsula.
But today, is also the day of celebration. It is Liberation Day, marking the end of Japanese colonial occupation. It is a holiday celebrated in
both South Korea and North Korea.
The tiny U.S. territory of Guam is known as the tip of the spear when it comes to American forces in the Pacific. It is the closest U.S. territory
to North Korea and has come under direct threat by Kim Jong-un.
However, many of the people serving in the U.S. military there do not enjoy the same rights as other Americans. Ivan Watson has more.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
IVAN WATSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Kick off on game day in Guam. Teenagers from the Guam Giants and the Southern Cowboys go head to head, Cheered on
by pent sized cheerleader. From the sidelines...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go boys. WATSON: Patrick Flores and his son Patrick Jesus (ph) Flores root for their family's team. The two men share more than their support for youth
football. Father and son, you're both serving in the military?
UNIDENTFIED MALE: Yes.
UNIDENTFIED MALE: Absolutely.
UNIDENTFIED MALE: Because of my dad, I just want to be like him. Follow his footsteps and serve, protect my family, protect my elements and serve
my country.
[08:40:00] WATSON: In 2013, both father and son shipped out to Afghanistan for a year with their National Guard battalion. That must have been tough
for the family, right?
UNIDENTFIED MALE: Yes, it is tough.
WATSON: In fact at least eight members of the Flores clan all joined in that deployment. Sergeant Flores says military service is part of the
culture on Guam.
UNIDENTFIED MALE: Patriotic -- we're just that patriotic at the island.
WATSON: The U.S. military says Guam with its population of more than 160,000 people boasts the most personnel in the military per capita in the
U.S.
In addition to high enlistment rates, the military maintains a permanent presence here, controlling a third of the island's territory including an
airbase and a naval base with a small fleet of submarines. And yet, Guam is also an island paradise that attracts hordes of tourists.
GEORGE CHARFAUROS, ADVISER, GUAM HOMELAND SECURITY: We're sell paradise and we're sell strategic location. There is a delicate balance on this,
too. We need to maintain that balance.
WATSON: But on this island where military plays such a pivotal role. Native members of the military have one key complaint.
Since Guam is a U.S. territory and not a U.S. state, residents do not have the right to vote for the U.S. president and Guam has no say in the passage
of U.S. laws.
UNIDENTFIED MALE: This had happened in everything country and up to this day, we still hoping for the right to vote.
WATSON: In defense of their country, many people of Guam have made the ultimate sacrifice. Hospital Corpsman Anthony Carbullido was killed in
Afghanistan in 2008.
He is one of dozens of servicemen and women from Guam who have died fighting in the U.S. war on terror. These Americans can fight and died to
defend the U.S. but they do not have the right to vote for the president who may send them into battle. Ivan Watson, CNN Guam.
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LU STOUT: We will continue to be live from the South Korean Capital all week and we will continue to dig into the stand-off between North Korea and
the U.S., and explore the impact with experts in the region.
But that is all for today show. I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Seoul. World Sport with Alex Thomas is next.
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