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ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HOST (voice-over): Sixteen years old and missing for weeks.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re getting very little cooperation out of the land owner.

BANFIELD: But when she`s found, there`s almost nothing left.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Somebody has gone to great lengths to dispose of this body.

BANFIELD: Burned in a pit behind Mom`s house.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She threw a fit, would not let anybody near the house.

BANFIELD: And found the same day Mom ties the knot.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Justice is going to be brought.

BANFIELD: Now that husband`s been arrested. Did he help incinerate that teenaged girl?

Obsessed with a serial killer. His own mom disappears.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) came back and said, OK, you got me. I shot her in the head.

BANFIELD: Her body stuffed in a steel drum buried under the porch.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When we were about to start digging, he made a spontaneous statement that his mother`s under the porch.

BANFIELD: His admissions to police have been stunning, his criticism of them scathing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was arrogant each time and criticized the detectives.

BANFIELD: And Grandma was locked up, too, accused of hiding the gun that shot her own daughter dead.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love my mother.

BANFIELD: Friends say he was super drunk when he started the car and drove off with his girlfriend. She never made it home, crushed on impact, dead

on arrival. Did he stay by her side, make a desperate call for help? Not even close. Guess where they found him and how long it took?

ANTHONY WEINER, FORMER CONGRESSMAN: If you believe it`s the wrong thing, you vote no!

BANFIELD: From congressman to sex offender.

WEINER: I`m responsible for this behavior that led to us be in this place.

BANFIELD: Anthony Weiner begs for no jail after dirty deeds with a teenage girl.

WEINER: These things are in my past.

BANFIELD: But guess what prosecutors are asking the judge and just how long they could hide (ph) the Weiner.

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BANFIELD: Good evening, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield.

There was always something a little fishy about that new husband. At least that`s what investigators in Missouri thought after they arrested his wife.

And the whole time they had that wife in jail for the murder of her teenage daughter, they had their eyes on him, too. After all, killing your

teenager and getting rid of her body in a burn pile -- well that just might require some help. And getting married on the very same day that

teenager`s charred remains are found -- well that`s just plain right (ph) creepy.

Remember when I asked the sheriff in this case about that new husband, Robert Peat, a couple weeks back when we covered this story, would he be

arrested, too?

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BANFIELD: What about Rebecca`s brand-new husband, Robert Peat? He hasn`t been charged in any of this. Is he a suspect in any of this?

DARRIN REED, OZARK COUNTY SHERIFF (via telephone): He`s definitely a suspect in this here. And like I said, it`s the very early stages of this

investigation and all those that need to be charged in this investigation will be charged.

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BANFIELD: Well, it turns out they hauled in that husband yesterday, and they charged him with the very same thing that his wife is facing, murder.

The specifics? Killing this 16-year-old, Savannah Leckie. So it kind of makes this court appearance of Savannah`s mom, Rebecca Ruud even more

curious. You remember how Rebecca Ruud was led into court in the cuffs and the jumpsuit for her first appearance? She didn`t have much to say back

then.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You understand you have a right to a preliminary hearing. The court has already made a probable cause determination.

REBECCA RUUD: Yes, your honor.

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BANFIELD: So it actually might have been what wasn`t said that was perhaps more interesting in this appearance. Total silence from the viewing

gallery where she`s sending that little kiss. Not a peep. And that`s kind of where we figure that her husband is sitting, watching his wife being

processed for murder.

And it is likely Robert Peat who is on the receiving end of that little smile, some say smirk, and that kiss from his new bride. And little did he

know, just a few weeks later, he`d be wearing a similar outfit and jewelry and facing the exact same rap.

[20:05:10]So I guess you could say husband and wife been are back together under the same roof, only this time it`s the county jail and there are

hundreds of bars that separate their units.

Josh Dooley is the public safety reporter for "The Baxter Bulletin." He joins me from Mountain Home, Arkansas. Josh, what do they have on the

husband?

JOSH DOOLEY, "BAXTER BULLETIN" (via telephone): They have the exact same charges that they have against Ms. Ruud, first degree murder, second degree

murder, tampering with evidence, abandonment of a corpse, and child endangerment with leading to death.

BANFIELD: OK, so let`s pop up that list that you just went over so we can get a nice, clear, concise look. They`re both charged with first degree

and second degree abuse or neglect of a child resulting in death, like you said, tampering and abandonment of a corpse. Do you have any idea why they

decided to go with first-degree murder but then also for good measure second-degree murder?

DOOLEY: You know, Ashleigh, I`m not particularly familiar with Missouri law. I`m more familiar with Arkansas law. It may very well be that is a

lesser and included charge, which means that if the jury decides there`s not enough evidence for first-degree murder, they can then, if they choose,

convict on second-degree murder.

BANFIELD: Josh, are they talking at all about this super-strange wedding between the new bride here in orange and presumably the guy she was sending

the kiss to, her husband, whom she married on the day her teenage daughter was found charred into bits and pieces so small they could only find teeth

and some finger bones?

DOOLEY: There`s been tremendous speculation among community members. Either (ph) the primary law enforcement officer in the case, Sheriff Darrin

Reed -- I spoke to him at length, and we did not have a discussion about the particular marriage. I suspect that will come in time as evidence gets

presented in court.

BANFIELD: Well, I say no time like the present. So how about this? Let me bring in Sheriff Darrin Reed. He`s with the Ozark County sheriff`s

department. What about it, that marriage? Now that he`s been arrested, as well, it seems just as curious if not curiouser. Is there something to it?

REED: Well, I think it`s going to come into play, Ashleigh, a little bit later on in the investigation. Like I said earlier, you know, we`re still

in the early stages of this here. And you know, some people get married with the assumption that they won`t have to -- you know, they`ll have the

spousal privileges. And you know, the state law there has an exception, and that is that whenever you have a victim that`s under the age of 18,

then those privileges go away.

BANFIELD: So maybe somebody was thinking, but just not thinking enough. Maybe that was the reason. Maybe there was something entirely innocuous

about a wedding on the same day your missing daughter`s charred remains are found on your property.

So there`s the other curious question, Sheriff, and that is that there`s quite a spate of time between Savannah`s mom being pulled in and making

that appearance and being charged for first and second and all the other charges as well, and then this husband being pulled in. Why the delay?

Were you looking for something in that time?

REED: You know, in these investigations, you want to take as much time as you possibly can to make sure that you`ve collected all the evidence that

you need to collect. And you know, we decided to take this before, you know, our citizens, and that`s a grand jury in Ozark County which, was

summonsed on Monday. And then they heard testimony on Monday and Wednesday.

BANFIELD: So I`m always curious about, you know, investigative techniques. And I know that smarter people than me -- and I`m talking about you -- you

watch people. You watch people when they think they`ve beaten the rap or when they`re in the clear. And they do things. They do curious things and

they do stupid things.

Was there anything that Robert Peat (ph), Jr., in the interim, did after the wife makes the appearance and he`s maybe thinking he`s going to beat

this?

REED: You know, I would like to comment on that, Ashleigh, but at this time, I can`t comment on that -- that part of the evidence right now.

BANFIELD: Totally respect that. How about I go at it this way? Without getting into the specifics, Sheriff, maybe you could tell me if he did

something that sealed his fate.

[20:10:00]REED: Well, you know, he was always a person of interest from day one. And when you`re working a case like this here, it just -- you

know, she was arrested really sooner than what I really wanted her arrested. It was just that we was afraid that she was going to flee the

area, which we did catch her, you know, on a bus leaving, you know, out of our area, which was already a hundred miles away.

BANFIELD: And I think he had a ticket, too, Sheriff. If I remember correctly, he had a ticket to a different location. Were you not concerned

that he was going to skip town, as well?

REED: You know, we had a good idea where he was going, and we kept pretty close tabs on this. I like not go into how we kept tabs, but you know, we

knew both of their whereabouts at all times. But we was afraid that once she reached her destination, it would probably be the last time we`d get a

chance to get hold of her.

BANFIELD: You got anybody else who`s in the offing? Do I have to come back on TV in three weeks and say, Remember when I asked the sheriff if

there were other people who might be arrested, and sure enough, here we are, or do you think you have your two?

REED: You know, Ashleigh, something I`m going to be doing next week, I`m going to be traveling to Minnesota, and I`ll be spending a week up there

with Minnesota detectives, and we`ll be going over this case from that end. I`d say this case is long from being over.

And it`s like I mentioned the first time on your show, I said that anybody that had any wrongdoings in this case was going to be charged in this, you

know. And that`s what we want to make sure. We want to make sure that all angles of this case has been reviewed and gone over with a fine-tooth comb.

And if Minnesota wants to charge people in that area, then that`s going to be Minnesota`s -- you know, that`s going to be their call. But we`re going

to definitely make sure that we talk to everybody that needs to be talked to.

BANFIELD: So it`s fair distance between Missouri and Minnesota. What`s the Minnesota connection?

REED: That`s where the -- you know, where Savannah Leckie is from. She`d only lived in our county for, like, 11 months. And she come from the

Minnesota area...

BANFIELD: But is there some...

REED: ... where she lived with an adoptive mother.

BANFIELD: Sure. And up until now, we just thought that she -- pardon me - - came down from Minnesota.

REED: Yes. Eleven months ago, she come down to live with her adoptive mother from Minnesota.

BANFIELD: So is there something else going on in Minnesota?

REED: You know, that`s something that we want to -- you know, we want to talk to -- we`ve been talking with investigators out of Minnesota, and we

want to talk to family members and friends and just see exactly what has been going on up there. And Minnesota authorities are also -- you know,

they`re concerned about this, as well. And -- and...

BANFIELD: Do you suspect, Sheriff, that there`s some collaboration or collusion that`s going on with her adoptive family in Minnesota? Do you

think that there might be some conspiracy here?

REED: You know, I just can`t answer that question. That would be premature for me to speculate on that at this point, and hopefully, at a

later time I`ll be able to answer that for you.

BANFIELD: But right now, that`s in play.

REED: You know, just about anything`s in play right now. You know, there`s a first in everything in this case. But you know, that -- things

that we hadn`t thought of before that were -- that`s being brought to light that -- you know, everything that we`re seeing, there`s a first.

So is there other people going to be charged in this? You know, I will say this here. We`re going to make sure that if there`s anybody else that has

any wrongdoing in this case, they`re going be brought to justice.

BANFIELD: So just so our audience is crystal clear, these are pictures of Savannah. She`s an animal lover. She was volunteering to help doing fire-

fighting. She was also adopted by a family in Minnesota. She had come back to her birth mother down in Missouri, and that`s who`s been arrested

for her murder, her birth mother and her brand-new husband as you see here.

Back up in Minnesota, as you heard the sheriff say, that would be her adoptive mom who she had left because she said she did not like her

adoptive mom`s new partner. So it`s curious and interesting to hear that that is still part of the investigation and it`s in play.

Want to bring in Bob Schalk real quickly, former prosecutor. I was super interested to hear about the way this happened because it wasn`t that the

police went and pulled in Robert Peat, Jr., and said, You`re under arrest and we`re going to throw you in front of a grand jury. No. It was the

grand jury who heard all about Rebecca Ruud`s case and said, You know, we think he needs to be charged, too. I find it interesting, curious, but do

you see something else with your prosecutor hat on?

[20:15:22]ROBERT SCHALK, FORMER PROSECUTOR: Yeah, it`s called a grand jury direct, which means the prosecution was brought evidence by the police

department which indicated that he was involved. And instead of arresting him or potentially giving him the opportunity to either destroy evidence or

to flee, they presented all the evidence and voted the grand jury. It also takes away the probable cause hearing that he would be entitled to. Now

he`s indicted, that`s completely eliminated. So it`s a strategic...

BANFIELD: So clever.

SCHALK: Very -- prosecutors who use it feel as if they have a very strong case and they want to use it as a tool to avoid, you know, that pretrial

hearing and to say, OK, now you`re indicted. Let`s go to trial.

BANFIELD: Well, there I was thinking I had figured this whole story out, and then the good sheriff comes on TV and says that there`s a Minnesota

connection and that the investigation continues.

You`re not going to go anywhere because I`m going to have a lot more questions. My great thanks to Sheriff Darrin Reed, Ozark County sheriff`s

department. I think we`re going to be speaking again. My thanks also to Josh Dooley.

An Alabama man allegedly kills his own mom, buried her under the porch in a 55-gallon drum, and now the police are looking into the suspicious death of

yet another member of his family. Who could it be, you ask? You`re not going to believe it.

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[20:20:45]BANFIELD: It`s a story that even Hollywood producers would have a real tough time making up, a woman found dead in a 55-gallon barrel

buried under the porch of her own home. Of course, the question, how did Susan Mayo (ph) get there and why.

But investigators sure didn`t have to look too far to get a prime suspect. Sheriff`s deputies there say it was her son who was upset over his mama

running off the one and only girlfriend that he ever had at 32 years old. But Nathaniel Sebastian says he loves his mama, or at least that`s what he

told them after he was arrested for her murder.

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QUESTION: They say that you confessed. Did you confess? Did you kill your mother?

NATHANIEL SEBASTIAN, CHARGED WITH MURDER: No comment.

QUESTION: How did you know she was under the porch?

SEBASTIAN: No comment.

QUESTION: You don`t have anything to say in defense of yourself? I mean, they`re calling you a monster, killed your mother, put her under the porch.

SEBASTIAN: I love my mother.

QUESTION: What happened?

QUESTION: Why are you being arrested?

SEBASTIAN: No comment.

QUESTION: You`re not even bothered by the fact that your mother was found today?

SEBASTIAN: No.

QUESTION: You`re not bothered by that?

SEBASTIAN: Uh-uh.

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BANFIELD: Guess he wasn`t bothered by mama rotting under his porch. And just when we thought the details of this case couldn`t be more disturbing,

we were really, really, really wrong because investigators have now revealed new information that could blow this murder case even wider.

Investigators are now saying there`s another suspicious death in that family from years ago. It was his baby brother, the brother investigators

say died while he was in Nathaniel`s care. Today, Nathaniel was hauled into court. Here he is facing a judge in what is so far the only case that

Nathaniel Sebastian is charged with, the murder of his mother, and that whole barrel bit underneath the porch.

Joining me now is Captain Paul Burch with the Mobile County sheriff`s office. Captain Burch, thanks for being on the program again. This story

continues to deliver details that sort of take our breath away. And here you are again with us. I guess the question I have tonight, are we looking

at more potential charges for Nathaniel Sebastian when it comes to the death of this little brother?

CAPT. PAUL BURCH, MOBILE COUNTY SHERIFF`S OFFICE (via telephone): Well, we`re still waiting reports from another agency, and we`d have to review

the autopsy report and meet with those investigators and, you know, take another look from there.

BANFIELD: So what do you know about the instance other than a baby brother died? What else do you know that at least rounds out that one sentence?

BURCH: That the child was in the sole care of Nathaniel at the time of the death, and it was for a short period of time.

BANFIELD: Is there something to his mom heading out and doing an errand and -- I`m guessing here, if the reports are correct, Nathaniel was in

grade school. Is all that correct?

BURCH: Yes, that`s correct.

BANFIELD: Do you know anything more about this? For instance, is he telling you anything?

BURCH: Well, we have not talked with him since his arrest. So you know, we certainly would like to ask questions about it if that time presents

itself.

BANFIELD: So he`s giving you the same "no comment" he was giving all those reporters during that perp walk?

BURCH: Well, we didn`t learn about the sibling until after his arrest. So we`ve not been able -- you know, and he`s represented by an attorney, so

we`ve not been able to talk with him about that as of yet.

BANFIELD: I know how that goes, but not for lack of trying, I hope. I mean, you know, you`re up against -- you know, you have the right to remain

silent. And when you have that lawyer and you`ve got your Miranda, you have the right to remain silent.

So I guess those other agencies are doing their work with regard to this death of his little brother. How many years ago? Do we even know, like,

how long ago this was?

BURCH: I mean, he`s 32 years old. He was in grade school. We`ve not received the reports yet, so I can`t give a -- you know, even a month or

year.

BANFIELD: But at least 20 years or so I`m guessing, right?

BURCH: Yes, ma`am.

BANFIELD: Now, maybe let`s move on to this other amazing part of the story today. In that court appearance -- and by the way, I`d love to sort of be

a fly on the wall. You have told us that he has been extraordinarily critical, belligerent, rude, thinks he`s kind of smarter than everybody

else in this investigation, been pretty terrible to the detectives in the case, goading them, deriding them.

[20:5:06]Was he doing anything behind the -- you know, the courtroom door before he came in and seemed all calm and collected in that courtroom, or

what was his demeanor like overall today?

BURCH: He was expressionless, nodded his head a few times. But you know, bear in mind he`s in a holding area with a lot of other inmates who, you

know, I don`t believe he`s going to act up in front of. They all have mamas, as well.

BANFIELD: That was exactly my next question. Did he seemed scared of his new roommates?

BURCH: Well, there are corrections officers present. So you know, I`m sure he felt some comfort in knowing that. But he was escorted in,

attended his hearing, and then was escorted back to the holding area.

BANFIELD: So let`s talk about some of the details from court today, Sheriff. It would seem pretty disturbing to hear that Nathaniel had

allegedly told his brother in the past that he took care of Mama after her death. What more do we know about that?

SEBASTIAN: It was right around the time that she had disappeared, which we believe to be around June 5th. And Nathaniel told him he took care of the

mother and they didn`t have to worry about her anymore.

BANFIELD: Did the brother know what he meant?

BURCH: Not at that moment because that was probably right after the death, probably the day after. I`m sure he had some idea, but as I stated last

night, he is terrified of his brother.

BANFIELD: Well, then there`s also this notion that his ex-girlfriend -- and this was revealed in this court appearance today -- had allegedly seen

Nathaniel pick up a gun and threaten to shoot his mother in the past. Is there more to that description, as well?

BURCH: Not only picked up -- it was an assault rifle and a chamber round and pointed it at his mother, threatened to kill her. Then there`s -- and

when we did the original search warrants, we did seize a number of weapons from the home. And there`s other incidents where the sheriff`s office has

been called to that residence on domestic disturbances where, you know, guns were described to be involved.

BANFIELD: So what about that mom? Had she indicated before to anyone, friends, family, authorities, I`m afraid my kid`s going to kill me?

BURCH: You know, we do have, you know, some statements to that effect that she made to a co-worker. But in one of the 911 calls where she called the

sheriff`s office, she -- you know, this was back in 2015. She said that her son was threatening her with a firearm.

BANFIELD: And whatever happened to him? Like, you know, you hear about these domestic incidents all the time. And typically, sadly, you also hear

that once this terrifying moment passes, the complainant pulls it all back and says, I don`t want to go ahead with any kind of prosecution. I just

don`t want to be a part of it.

BURCH: That happens all too often. And you know, seemingly, it happened in this instance and numerous times.

BANFIELD: So I`m going to -- I`m going to quote something from Nathaniel Sebastian. He said this before his arrest, so it`s critical that we get

the wording right. These were his words. "I`m worried sick. I`ve been working with these detectives since the beginning, and this nonsense that

the family has not been working with them -- we`ve given them everything. We`ve even told them our dirty little secrets."

And then we came to find out that one of those secrets may involve some kind of incestuous relationship with his mom. Is that what he was

referring to when he talked about his dirty little secrets?

BURCH: You know, we can`t get into statements that he made during, you know, his interviews with us. However, you know, there have been some

notions from family members and others that that may be the case.

BANFIELD: Family members and others have said that there was an incestuous relationship between Nathaniel and his mother?

BURCH: That there was something strange about their relationship and...

BANFIELD: Did they characterize that? Because lots of people act strange with their siblings and their parents. But did they characterize that it

was sexual in nature?

BURCH: I really can`t get into that at the moment.

BANFIELD: What can you say about it?

BURCH: You know, just that, you know, there were some things said that, you know, like I stated last night, that you can clearly read between the

lines, but I just can`t get into specific statements that people played (ph).

ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, PRIMETIME JUSTICE SHOW HOST: Real quickly, the last thing, that grandmother -- and let`s just be clear. She`s not just his

grandmother, she`s the mother of the woman found dead under that porch in the 55-gallon drum.

That grandmother, Doris Clark, we learned in court today that she allegedly gave the murder weapon, the gun that was used to essentially execute her

daughter in the back of the head.

She gave that gun to Nathaniel`s brother and never indicated to the brother the providence of that weapon, never said a word about what that weapon had

actually been used for. Is that accurate?

BURCH (via telephone): That`s accurate, you know. And she did everything she could to assist Nathaniel in leading us on every wild goose chase, you

know, that we could to avoid focusing in on him.

BANFIELD: More charges coming for her or anyone else?

BURCH (via telephone): I think she could face other charges.

BANFIELD: Like what?

BURCH (via telephone): That would be up to the district attorney`s office. And I`m sure we`ll be meeting with them again soon. But I do think there

could be other charges that may be filed.

BANFIELD: What would they pertain to, though?

BURCH (via telephone): The same actions.

BANFIELD: OK. Well, captain, can`t thank you enough once again for taking the time to be with us. It`s disturbing on so many levels and it just keeps

delivering. We`re going to keep up with you if we can on that other investigation to the little brother. Captain Paul Burch from the Mobile

County Sheriff`s Office joining us.

You know, it is bad if you are drunk and you decide to drive, but it`s incomprehensible if you are what friends say super drunk and you decide to

drive with this very lovely girlfriend, and she ends up in a crash and she`s dead. And I don`t even know what to call it if you just leave her

there. You just leave her there. But those are the allegations against her boyfriend. That`s next.

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BANFIELD: When you see a car accident, whether you actually see it or you see the carnage that`s left behind, you know, if you`re like most people,

you hope and you pray that everybody`s OK, right? And when you know somebody who has been in an accident, you know, your first question is, are

you OK? You check on them. It`s human nature.

So when you hear about somebody fleeing the scene of a crash and leaving a passenger to die, it kind of gets your blood boiling. But then when you

hear that that passenger is actually the driver`s girlfriend, well, there`s a special place in you know where.

Investigators say that Michael Campbell, a man with a long history of driving offenses was driving with his girlfriend super duper late on

Saturday night, so you could say Sunday morning. This is all happening in Minneapolis. According to the court documents, the friends say that

Campbell was, quote, "super drunk" when he left the party that morning.

Police say Campbell smashed into a pole, got out of the car, and just bolted, leaving that beautiful woman, 20-year-old Ria Patel for dead.

Officers say he did come back for like a nanosecond to get his phone out of the car and then gone again.

It didn`t take investigators very long to figure out who the driver was because they found his wallet in the car. But it did take them two days to

track him down at someone else`s house, and that`s where he was taken into custody.

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NISHUL PATEL, VICTIM`S COUSIN: Now that he`s found, it`s some relief for us.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: But still there`s that question, right? Why would you do that? Investigators say Michael Campbell admitted to drinking alcohol before

driving, says he bolted because he was traumatized by seeing just how injured his girlfriend Ria was.

Drew Lee is the co-host of "Justice & Drew" on KTLK-AM 1130. He joins me from Minneapolis. Drew, thanks for being on the show. Look, there are

witnesses, two of them, by my count, that saw what happened. Can you describe exactly the chain of events after that crash according to the

witnesses?

DREW LEE, CO-HOST, JUSTICE & DREW KTLK-AM 1130: Yes, it was about almost 4:00 in the morning on Saturday night, Sunday morning, as you said. And a

witness saw a red car, red Ford Focus, veered off into the road, heard a loud bang, and saw the crash. He had swerved off from the southbound lanes

into the northbound lanes and actually hit a traffic (INAUDIBLE).

There were no skid marks at the scene which indicates that it was a very high-speed collision. Then witness saw a man get out of the car and run

towards a Honeywell plant nearby -- I`m sorry, run towards the McDonald`s nearby. The witness had already called 911 at this point. Saw the man come

back and dig around in his car.

The witness confronted him and said, you know -- and the guy said you need to call 911. He said, I already have. And he fled again that time over at

the Honeywell plant where he was seen by another witness.

That`s when the original person who called 911 saw that there was another person in the car who was unresponsive, wasn`t moving. Updated the 911.

Police arrived. And the victim, the 20-year-old victim, Ria Patel, was pronounced dead at the scene. And that`s when the search for Michael

Campbell began.

[20:40:00] BANFIELD: Well, they found him. And now he`s in a world of hurt. Drew, just hold on for one second. I want to bring in Madeline Dusek. She`s

a friend of Ria Patel and she`s organizing a vigil for Ria which is actually going to happen tonight. She joins me from St. Paul, Minnesota.

Madeline, we talked about the witnesses who saw what happened after your friend was killed in that crash, but there are other witnesses from the

party, and you`re actually kind of one of them because you were at that party that night. What did you see?

MADELINE DUSEK, FRIEND OF VICTIM (via telephone): I`m just kind of leaving all of that information up to the cops and not really talking much about

Michael right now. Everything is more focused on Ria.

BANFIELD: Is it accurate, though, to say that he was at that party and witnesses at that same party you were at say he was super drunk and left

anyway and got in that car?

DUSEK (via telephone): Like I said, we`re not really talking much about Michael right now. We`re talking about Ria.

BANFIELD: And I think justice for Ria will mean that Michael doesn`t get out on the street and do this again to someone else. I have to be honest

with you. I appreciate, Madeline, how you feel like. I`ve never been in your shoes. And I can`t imagine what it`s like in your shoes, but I`m just

looking at this unbelievable rap sheet of Michael.

I`m going to start to scroll. I won`t be able to name all these charges that he`s faced, but there`s 15 of them just since 2012. And they all have

to do with driving. Failure to obey and speed and seat belts and careless driving and liquor consumption and marijuana in the motor vehicle. There

was even a hit and run with a guilty plea. He was on probation at this time.

Maybe I can ask you this, Madeline. Do you think that the witnesses at the party are going to be able to help? Because Michael wasn`t found for two

days. So there`s no breathalyzer. There`s no way to say how much alcohol was in his system. It`s really just up to you guys to tell the cops what

happened. Do you think they`re going to be able to help?

DUSEK (via telephone): I think that people who were there can definitely attest to the truth when the time comes right to do that.

BANFIELD: I want to bring in Bob Schalk. As a former prosecutor, I`m sure this is the kind of thing that just gets you crazy. You know full well from

the stories that everyone is telling that the guy was, quote, "super drunk," according to the people.

I don`t know why Madeline won`t say it. This is her friend, her best friend, I get it. This is a horrible position for her to be in. But you

can`t extract blood and extrapolate a blood alcohol level two days later. What can you do?

ROBERT SCHALK, FORMER PROSECUTOR: Well, I`ve tried many cases like this as a prosecutor. The most important aspect is to be able to bring in your

witnesses, be able to have them identify what things do you look for when you define super drunk. How was he speaking, how was he walking, what did

his eyes look like, did you see him drink?

BANFIELD: Can the defense attorney beat that rap and say my guy is just a goofball, you can`t say he was super drunk, you don`t know his personality.

SCHALK: Here is the issue that you are going to run into as a prosecutor. Defense attorney is going to bring out, listen, he was traumatized. His

girlfriend was severely hurt or dead. He ran to his friends to into his comfort, and you don`t have a breath reading to be able to corroborate any

of this.

Juries love science. When you have a lack of science, you can potentially appeal to that one juror who may latch on to your theory of the case that

could hang the jury number one or two. You never know. You get a rogue juror, people who are this hell bent on science, hell bent on that, you

know, law and order.

They see things on television. If they don`t have the DNA, they don`t have the science behind it, they`re going to acquit. However, based on what

we`re seeing here, this seems to be a strong case for the prosecution.

BANFIELD: I hope they can get the witnesses to speak up about exactly what they saw Michael do that night and that he gets the justice and they get

the justice they deserve. Thank you for that. Don`t go anywhere.

Remember the case of serial sexter Anthony Weiner? The hypocrisy is like overwhelming. Congressman who has just been floored by all his own

embarrassments. He`s facing some serious prison time now for his illegal online activity with a 15-year-old school girl. But will the judge sentence

him to the max? Guess what he wants?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You consider it?

ANTHONY WEINER, FORMER CONGRESSMAN OF NEW YORK: I`m not resigning, no.

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BANFIELD: Getting caught, messing up once is hard enough, but some people seem to make a habit of it. Anthony Weiner, the guy who sent photographs of

his package to a woman on Twitter and then got caught for it just can`t stop, it seems.

His sexting scandals ruined his political career and even ruined his marriage and even became the subject of a very popular documentary.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): A photo of an anonymous man`s bulging underwear.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Was tweeted from Congressman Weiner`s account.

WEINER: Today, I`m announcing my resignation from congress.

The punchline is true about me. I did a dumb thing, but I did a lot of good things too.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A man or woman?

WEINER: Sorry, ma`am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you remember?

WEINER: What I would like to talk about is housing in the Bronx. Any questions about that?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: No, we want to talk about sexting. Because even after being caught sexting multiple adults and issuing an apology, he was caught again.

It happened earlier this year, sexting a 15-year-old. Yes, that`s a crime. And Weiner had to plead guilty to that to a charge of transferring obscene

material to a minor.

But it looks like another apology won`t be keeping Weiner out of prison. Prosecutors want to send him away for two years though his attorneys have

asked for no prison time. Just sorry. Keep me out of jail. However, this is not

[20:50:00] the only case that Weiner is in court for. These lovely photographs were from an appearance that he made last week with his soon-

to-be ex-wife, Huma Abedin, sitting together as they asked a judge to please keep the details of our divorce private, and that request was

denied. It will be a public divorce case. It will not be anonymous versus anonymous.

CNN correspondent Jean Casarez joins me now. Jean, this is like an epitome of hypocrisy. A politician who says oh, I`m sorry, I did wrong, give me a

second chance. In fact, here he is begging us, the press and the public, after he got caught the first time for a second chance. Have a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

WEINER: I`m responsible for this behavior that led us to be in this place. But in many ways, things are not that much different than they were

yesterday. This behavior that I did was problematic, to say the least, destructive, to say the most, caused many stresses and strains in my

marriage, but I`m pleased and blessed that she has given me a second chance.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: But Jean, is the court going to give him a third chance and let him stay out of prison for this one?

JEAN CASAREZ, CNN AND HLN NEWS CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): You know, that question`s going to be answered on Monday because that`s when his

sentencing hearing is. And both sides have produced sentencing memorandums. Just as you said, the government is asking for 21 to 27 months because they

say this is extremely serious offense.

A 15-year-old girl that he not only engaged in sexting with but also video Skype (ph) where he asked her to unrobe and told her to sexually perform

for him on video. He sent her pornography. He knew she was 15 years old. And they said that irregardless of his other actions, which were not

criminal in nature, the others were adult women. But it showed a pattern, a pattern that deserves prison.

BANFIELD: So let me ask Bob Schalk to jump in here. You`re a prosecutor. You`ve been on this end where you`ve asked for a period of time. This is 21

to 27 months. That`s roughly two years. And Anthony wants nothing. What do you think is likely to happen here?

SCHALK: I think you`ll probably see the judge split the baby somewhere right down the middle.

BANFIELD: Seriously?

SCHALK: I do. Because he has got no prior criminal convictions. Federal sentencing guidelines will and probation will make a recommendation to the

court as well.

BANFIELD: I get all that. That`s standard operating procedure, boilerplate. This guy is not boilerplate. He was a United States congressman. He ran for

the mayor of New York. He had to pull himself out of the running because of all the dirt with Sydney Leathers, the aspiring porn star he had been

sexting with.

He is morally bankrupt. Here is old big sad clown face because Huma wants to divorce you, thank God, because one of those pictures included your

baby. Isn`t that part of what a judge looks at and said you`re different than the other people. You don`t get the same treatment.

SCHALK: You have to look at him still in the same sentence as you would an individual that came to you with no prior criminal convictions, the nature

of the allegations --

BANFIELD: None of that other stuff counts?

SCHALK: I`m not saying it doesn`t count. I`m saying that weighs more, tips the scales more in his favor I think to the possibility of not getting the

sentence recommended by the prosecution.

BANFIELD: So, here`s the other thing. A U.S. Congressman knows the law ostensibly, right? He should know better. He`s supposed to be a leader and

set an example. He begged for a second chance. He got his second chance. And that`s what he did with it.

SCHALK: No judge in my opinion is going to come out and say the things that you are saying. If they feel that way, it will be reflected in the sentence

they hand down. So if he gets the max, everything you`re saying will be in the heart and soul of what the judge is feeling. Whether or not they`re

actually going to do it is another question.

BANFIELD: OK. So, you and Jean Casarez are going to have to come back after Monday to see what the judge decides to do on this one. Thank you. Thank

you, Jean, great reporting as always. She`s a lawyer, so she knows what she`s talking about.

I want to just dovetail for a second to this. Childhood can be hard, right? And if you are homeless and in foster care or living in poverty, it can be

excruciating. This week`s CNN hero knows this all too well because now he is steering other people towards a road for success. I want you to meet

Aaron Valencia.

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AARON VALENCIA, CNN HERO: The kids were kind of gravitating towards the shop to see what was going on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How are you?

VALENCIA: So it`s like, come here, and they can actually learn a trade, learn a lesson.

Slowing down.

The wiring, the fuel system, carburetor. No crazy cut lines in it, nothing. It looks great.

The whole time they`re working, we`re dropping little bits of knowledge. I have to make the right decisions in life.

We`re not looking for perfection. We are just looking for better than yesterday.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Aren`t we all? What a great thing to say. Go to CNNheroes.com and you can see Aaron and his kids building a custom low rider. We`re back

right after this.

[20:55:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: We will show you the worst of humanity on this show. Tonight before we go, I want to show you the best of humanity and ask you what you

would do if you found a lost wallet with $1,500 in it and a bunch of credit cards. Would you go right to the mall with the cash? Would you pay some

bills? Would you pre-order the new iPhone?

Because 18-year-old Tyler Opdyke found himself in that situation, found that wallet that he`s waving around on that door cam, and he took it to the

house where it belongs. And they were too scared to open the door, so he showed them. Here it is, I am putting it under your mat. All the money.

[21:00:00] Credit cards and everything. He returned it. Husband have dropped it on the way out to the car. And Tyler, you`re a rock star. Thanks

everyone for watching. My great thanks to Bob Schalk for being here tonight. Stay tuned. It`s great to have you here.

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