Anthony Scaramucci on stocks, trade and China: May 8, 2019

20190508-markets-now-09
Scaramucci: If new Trump tariffs take effect, market could drop 7%
01:18 - Source: CNN Business

What we covered here

  • Markets check: US stocks ended in positive territory - barely.
  • Wendy’s (WEN) posted strong earnings despite the current fake meat craze overtaking Wall Street.
  • The SALT conference kicked off, and former White House communications chief Anthony Scaramucci told the crowd that he’s ‘worried about the market.’
  • Real estate billionaire Sam Zell said that if the Fed were to follow Trump’s suggestion and cut rates ‘It would be a disaster.”
  • Uber and Lyft drivers protested for higher wages all over the country.
41 Posts

That’s it for our live coverage of the SALT conference today. Check CNN Business tomorrow to follow Thursday’s lineup.

Mark Cuban: 'No one cares about Silicon Valley anymore'

Silicon Valley is having a moment right now, with Lyft, Pinterest and Uber all going public.

But Mark Cuban and AOL co-founder Steve Case say the next wave of startups will come from outside of Silicon Valley.

“There’s a great entrepreneur in your neighborhood,” Cuban said. He urged investors to back local talent. “It never dawned on me that I should be in Silicon Valley,” he said of his own career.

Case noted that 75% of venture capital funding goes to three states: California, New York and Massachusetts. Case believes that’s a mistake.

“There’s an opportunity to build in the middle of country,” he said. “Investors are missing out.”

Angelo Mozilo still doesn't get it

A decade after Countrywide’s collapse, Angelo Mozilo is still in denial over his mortgage machine’s role in the Great Recession.

“Countrywide is a great company,” Mozilo said on Wednesday from the SALT Conference in Las Vegas.

Financial historians say otherwise. Mozilo, Countrywide’s co-founder, helped pioneer the use of subprime mortgages. These risky loans blew up when home prices unexpectedly plunged.

The perpetually tanned Mozilo became one of the villains of the subprime crisis and ensuing financial meltdown.

“Somehow – for some unknown reason – I got blamed,” Mozilo said.

Mozilo said that blaming Countrywide is “nonsense” because subprime was “not the cause at all” for why the economy tanked.

But subprime did play a central role in sparking the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. These bad mortgages were packed into securities that became toxic when foreclosures spiked. Bear Stearns nearly collapsed. Lehman Brothers imploded. Financial markets seized up.

Ten years ago, Mozilo said he worried about how the backlash affected his reputation.

“Now, I don’t care,” he said.

SEC Commissioner: We're watching Elon Musk 'very closely'

The SEC is laser-focused on Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s Twitter account.

At SALT on Wednesday, SEC Commissioner Robert Jackson said the agency was monitoring Musk’s social media use “very closely.”

“I fully expect that he’s going to be held to the deal” he recently struck with the SEC, Jackson said of Musk.

Earlier this year, Musk tweeted that Tesla “will make around 500k [cars] in 2019.” Hours later, Musk sent a follow-up tweet indicating that the company will actually deliver just 400,000 cars this year.

That prompted the SEC to ask a federal judge to hold Musk in contempt for violating the settlement agreement he reached with the agency last year about his social media use.

Instead, Musk and the SEC reached an updated agreement in April about his Twitter account and what he’s allowed to say on social media.

Jackson said Musk’s tweet that prompted the SEC to go to a federal judge “didn’t follow the agreement that he signed.”

Musk “signed an agreement with the federal government at the behest of a federal judge to do something, and he didn’t do it,” Jackson said. “It’s crystal clear that he didn’t follow the agreement.”

HP and BlackRock leaders: Shareholders and customers demand diversity

Most panels here at SALT are about investment strategies or economic risks. But on Wednesday, leaders from BlackRock (BLK), HP (HPE) and Bank of America (BAC) spoke on a panel about diversity and inclusivity in the finance industry.

Jonathan McBride, managing director and global head of inclusion and diversity at BlackRock, said the firm’s clients were increasingly pressing the company on its diversity policies.

“Inactivity is the more costly place to be,” he said.

Lesley Slaton Brown, chief diversity officer at HP, agreed. “Shareholders are demanding this and customers are demanding this as well.” Brown said HP had increased the number of women in leadership roles by 8% since 2015.

Amanda Pullinger, CEO of 100 Women in Finance, said she was focused on raising the profile of women in the industry. She encouraged top women in finance to speak at conferences and panels and appear on television.

“Get yourself on a stage,” Pullinger said. “We need more women to be seen as experts in their field.”

What's next for investors on Thursday?

Wednesday’s trading day is over and we can only hope that markets will calm down as the week draws to a close.

Here’s what’s next for investors.

  • China reports consumer price inflation numbers for April
  • On the US economic calendar, trade data and jobless claims are due at 8.30 am ET.
  • The SALT Conference in Las Vegas is on for another day, with CNN Business’ Matt Egan and Nathaniel Meyersohn at the scene.
  • Ford (F) holds its annual meeting

Dow snaps two-day losing steak

US stocks finished the day mixed, with the Dow ending in positive territory for the first time in two days, though just barely.

The market took investors for a wild ride on Wednesday, flipping back and forth on sentiment surrounding a possible trade deal between the United States and China.

  • The Dow finished little changed but still in positive territory, up 2 points. The index was up around 150 points earlier in the afternoon.
  • The S&P 500 closed 0.2% lower.
  • The Nasdaq ended 0.3% lower.

Amid all the trade drama, government contractor Parsons (PSN) IPOed today, pricing its shares at $27 per shares. The shares rose 11.$% on their first trading day.

Intel (INTC) was the biggest loser in the Dow, dropping 2.5%.

In the S&P, Diamondback Energy (FANG) led the field of gainers all day, adding 7.8%. TripAdvisor (TRIP) was the weakest company. Its shares dropped 11.4% after earnings.

Stephen Moore on Trump: 'This guy loves to follow the markets'

President Donald Trump checks in on financial markets “every few hours,” according to economic adviser Stephen Moore.

“This guy loves to follow the markets,” said Moore, who until last week was Trump’s pick to join the Federal Reserve.

Speaking at the SALT Conference in Las Vegas, Moore said on Wednesday that recent market turbulence over the White House’s tough stance on China will give Trump “hesitation.”

Last week, Moore withdrew his name from consideration to join the Fed amid a firestorm of controversy over years of disparaging comments he made about women and concerns about his qualifications.

Moore tried to make light of the controversy regarding his comments about women.

“I like women. I just don’t like women’s basketball,” Moore said, though his comment failed to draw any laughter from the sparse conference room.

On China, Moore said that he advised Trump to take as good of a trade deal as he can and then get “really tough with China” after winning re-election.

“This isn’t going to stop now,” Moore said. “This trade dispute with China will last for years and years and years. This is the issue of our time.”

There's now a gig economy ETF: Here's who is in it

SoFi, the personal finance company popular with millennials, has launched a new investment that’s squarely in the wheelhouse of its younger users: a gig economy ETF.

The company said the The SoFi Gig Economy ETF (GIGE) will be run by investment firm Toroso as an actively managed fund. In other words, managers will pick the stocks instead of relying on an index. SoFi also launched a new ETF geared toward high-growth stocks.

Noto left his job as the COO of Twitter in January 2018 to take over as SoFi’s CEO. Interestingly enough, Twitter (TWTR) is the sixth-largest holding in the ETF.

Here’s a look at the top five stocks. They collectively make up more than 20% of the fund.

Other big picks? Eventbrite (EB). Facebook (FB) and Alibaba (BABA). And SoFi said the fund is set up so that companies that just went public can be included about a month after the IPO. So don’t be surprised to see Uber (UBER) show up as a top holding in June.

Opportunity Zones are not a 'Trump program.' They're 'bipartisan'

Hedge fund manager and philanthropist Manny Friedman said the idea to create tax incentives for investments in underdeveloped neighborhoods was “a massive bipartisan effort.”

The Obama administration conceived of Opportunity Zones, which offer tax incentives for investments in some low-income and underdeveloped ares. They were passed into law as part of Congress’ tax cut package in 2017.

Friedman was critical of investors and reporters who call the initiative a Trump-inspired program. “This is not a Trump program,” said Friedman, an advocate for Opportunity Zones. “It’s a bipartisan program.”

Friedman said there was a risk to the future of opportunity zones if the White House changes hands in the 2020 election.

What happens when a bitcoin bull and bear duke it out

Things got a little heated when Nouriel “Dr. Doom” Roubini and bitcoin bull Michael Novogratz clashed at SALT on Wednesday.

The bear’s take

Roubini slammed bitcoin as the “mother and father of all bubbles and busts.”

The NYU professor pointed out that bitcoin’s crash was deeper than history’s other bubbles like the dotcom boom and even the tulip mania of the 1630s.

Roubini said bitcoin is subject to “massive manipulation” and has “no future as a currency.”

The bull’s take

Novogratz, the CEO of Galaxy Digital, believes the future is very bright for bitcoin despite the price collapse. He pointed to moves by establishment players like Fidelity into the crypto space and bitcoin’s $100 billion market cap.

Bitcoin has spiked more than 60% this year, rebounding from its recent crash.

Roubini repeatedly took issue with Novogratz cutting him off, saying at one point “let me finish.”

Novogratz tried to make peace with Roubini at the end of the panel by making a friendly bet. 

If bitcoin finishes the year above its current price of roughly $6,000, Roubini would have to wear a t-shirt saying bitcoin is great. If bitcoin ends the year below $6,000, Novogratz offered to wear a t-shirt saying: “Nouriel was right.”

Roubini declined the offer, saying: “I don’t care about the price of bitcoin.”

Here's why investors at SALT are excited

Investors are super excited about “Opportunity Zones.”

There are several panels at SALT focusing on opportunity zones — underdeveloped neighborhoods across the nation that are ripe for investment.

As a result of recent tax reform, opportunity zones have become a way for distressed neighborhoods to attract real estate, housing, small business and community development investment. Investors in these projects receive favorable tax treatment.

Peter Brack, founding partner of Hypothesis Ventures, predicted that opportunity zones will “transform the country” in the same way Amazon (AMZN) or Google (GOOGL) have.

“We’re not even in the first inning yet,” he said of opportunity zones. But “if we do what we intend to do, we can do well and do a heck of a lot of good at the same time.”

Brack was also honest about why he’s investing in opportunity zones.

“We’re not looking at this from an impact lens,” he said. “We’re looking at this from a pure, opportunistic thesis.”

Sam Zell warns of ‘disaster’ if Fed slashes rates like Trump wants

Real estate billionaire Sam Zell agrees with President Donald Trump: The American economy would take off if the Federal Reserve slashed interest rates.

“He’s right,” Zell said on Wednesday at the SALT Conference in Las Vegas. “The economy would soar, and so would inflation. And the dollar would fall accordingly.”

Despite historically-low unemployment and accelerating GDP growth, Trump recently urged the Fed to lower rates by a full percentage point.

“I don’t think there’s any justification for any kind of significant decrease,” Zell said. 

Zell warned cutting rates and causing the dollar to plunge would threaten the greenback’s status as the world’s reserve currency.

However, the real estate tycoon credited Trump with confronting China on trade, calling it “probably one of the best things he’s done.” 

And Zell thinks fears about tariffs are overdone.

“We’ve had tariffs for more than a year, and the end of the world hasn’t come,” Zell said. 

Anthony Scaramucci: I did something fireable

Wondering why Anthony Scaramucci thinks he lasted just 10 days in the White House? He’s not shy about it.

Scaramucci will interview former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly at the SALT investors conference in Las Vegas Wednesday. He said won’t be afraid to ask tough questions about their prior relationship.

“I won’t leave the elephant sitting in the room ignored.”

Sam Zell calls ‘bulls—t’ on $2 trillion infrastructure plan

Real estate billionaire Sam Zell isn’t buying the $2 trillion price tag on Washington’s tentative infrastructure agreement.

“I think it’s all bulls—t,” Zell said at the SALT Conference in Las Vegas. 

“That $2 trillion number is the number they agreed to because they thought it would create a big headline and it sounded good,” Zell said. 

Last month, Democratic congressional leaders announced an agreement with President Donald Trump on a $2 trillion infrastructure plan, though few details have been worked out.

Zell warned that promises to enact an infrastructure plan are unlikely to be delivered for the next few years. 

The real estate tycoon also pushed back on the anti-immigrant sentiment of recent years. He pointed to the shortage of skilled talent that is holding back the American economy.

“Immigration is what’s made this country great,” Zell said to applause. “We have to encourage immigration because that’s a critical element to growth.” 

Anthony Scaramucci: I am worried about the market

“I am worried about the market. We’ve had an incredible bull market. There’s a lot of cyclicality in the markets,” Scaramucci told CNN Business’ Markets Now live show, hosted by Richard Quest.

“Everyone is a long-term investor until they have short-term losses. So I have to prepare my clients for that.”

He predicted yields will stay where they are, noting the Fed wanted to get ahead of some cracks in the economy. Scaramucci said his firm, Skybridge Capital, has hedges against volatility in the markets caused by the environment.

Anthony Scaramucci: Be cautious about Uber

“Uber and Lyft are great services, but it’s not clear how they make money and not clear how drivers are doing over the long term as well,” Anthony Scaramucci said on CNN Business’ Markets Now live show, hosted by Richard Quest.

“I admire what they built. I’d advise people to be cautious here. I prefer the Warren Buffett / Charlie Munger approach: Buy something with predictable cash flow,” Scaramucci added. The former White House communications director spoke from the SALT investing conference, which is presented by the firm he founded, Skybridge Capital.

Fake meat is killing it on Wall Street

Looking for positive news on Wall Street? Look no further than fake meat.

Trade has brought volatility to markets. But McDonald’s, Beyond Meat, Burger King and many others are wowing the markets with the plant-based meat-substitute trend.

“Fake meat … I mean, look at these kind of rallies!” said Matthew Cheslock, equities trader at Virtu Financial on CNN Business’ Markets Now live show, hosted by Richard Quest. “It’s all good for them.”

What's the next big tech investment? Privacy

One big opportunity for investment is privacy, AOL founder and former CEO Steve Case said on CNN Business’ Markets Now live show. He said the “third wave” of the internet will “Not just be the internet of things, but the internet of everything: billions of connected devices.”

He noted that entrepreneurs won’t want to hear that, but it’s important to “strike the right balance between regulation and innovation.”

Steve Case: It's time to invest all over the US — not just Silicon Valley

AOL founder and former CEO Steve Case said it’s time to move investment around the United States.

“We should invest venture capital money all across the country, not just in Silicon Valley,” Case said on CNN Business’ Markets Now live show, hosted by Richard Quest.

Case noted 75% of venture capital money went to three states: California, New York and Massachusetts. It’s time to spread the money around, he said.